The Gamers You Loathe

STANDARD GAMING
•Console haters.
•Handheld haters. Gaming on the go can be great. Heck, there's a lot on handheld systems that is fun to play on the couch at home!
•Closed-minded gamers. I know some people only like certain games or genres, but give something new a try!

ONLINE
•The online gamer that intentionally disconnects to prevent a loss.
•The online gamer that intentionally lags.
•Abusive trash talkers. Some trash talk is fine, but keep it appropriate to the game.
•Kids that feel the need to act outside their age with language. You're 8 and love Halo? Cool, but don't feel the need to 'impress' me with swearing and trash talk.

GENERAL
•Game store employees that act in an overly-friendly manner, but don't bother to learn anything about my tastes before making a blind recommendation.
•Game store employees being jackasses in general. I'm thinking of the time that a guy tried to talk me out of buying Katamari Damacy by saying "That game sucks, you just roll this thing around!" This as I have my wallet out to pay for it. Good job, buddy!
•Game programmers that get into forum arguments with the general gaming population. If your game is good, it'll speak for itself. If it's not, your defense of it is a ridiculous permanent record of shame.
•Non-gamers that are unwilling to try any game at all. It's as bad as not reading or listening to music in my mind.
 
[quote name='evyrew']I'm also not a fan of "release date" snobs. These are the ones that pre-order everything. They can't stand not having the game in their hands on release day. Why not have a little patience and save some money? I understand pre-ordering your favorite game series or wanting to have some of the pre-ordering bonuses (I have Fable 2 CE preordered)... but is it really necessary to preorder everything? Madden will be their for you next week if you really need him. Niko isn't in a hurry....[/QUOTE]
Now maybe I'm misinterpreting what you are posting, but what is wrong with pre-ordering? I had Too Human pre-ordered, and also have cash down for Gears of War 2 and Fable 2. I know I will want to pick these up when they come out, so what is wrong with that? If I change my mind closer to release I can always get my $5 back.
 
[quote name='msdmoney']I loathe any gamers that feel the need to separate gamers or games into casual and hardcore. Especially those that ever use the term "real games".[/QUOTE]

I hate when terms are used in a manner meant to bash someone. But there are clearly different types of gamers.

Someone that only plays bejeweled is different from someone who only plays WoW. And they're different from someone that only plays sports games. Who is different from someone who plays JRPGs, FPS, action games and fighting games and so on.

But I agree that I don't like the "hardcore" vs. "casual" gamer labelr, or talk of "real" games as they're pretty much always used in someone trying to prove that they're more of a gamer than someone else.

Seems like arguing who's the bigger nerd to me, so I happily let such people when that debate!
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']
Mass Media. People that still think games are made for kids and to kill time... ugh, they piss me off so much.[/QUOTE]

Surprised I forgot this one, yeah this pisses me off also. At least since gaming has become more mainstream it's happening less than before. Although it seems that most people still think that portable gaming is for kids. Like try to take out a DS or a psp in public and you'll get some strange looks from a lot of people, ugh.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']
Mass Media. People that still think games are made for kids and to kill time... ugh, they piss me off so much.[/QUOTE]

I clearly don't think games are for kids since I play them and I turn 30 in a couple months, but I do think they are just to kill time.

Of course the main point is to have fun, but it's to have fun while killing time.

I don't see games as art, or as an enriching experience personally, so I play them just to kill time for the most part. But I'm not going to knock people who think they're more than that either. To each their own.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I clearly don't think games are for kids since I play them and I turn 30 in a couple months, but I do think they are just to kill time.

Of course the main point is to have fun, but it's to have fun while killing time.

I don't see games as art, or as an enriching experience personally, so I play them just to kill time for the most part. But I'm not going to knock people who think they're more than that either. To each their own.[/quote]

games are for entertainment purposes, which also includes killing time. playing wii fit is for entertainment, killing time and exercising.
keep in mind that not all entertainment is suitable for everyone [which explains the constant bashing of wii from the "hardcore"]. contrasting this to sex, where not all sex activity is suitable for everyone.
 
Oh God, the kind that really only tend to play these M-Rated games or games that are FPS and army games and other "MANLY MAN" kind of games..and bash on other types of games. It's actually pretty disturbing that some people feel their masculinity is defined by the games they play..:shock:

These people are also the people who bash every single game for the Wii. Everyone of them. Just STFU already.
 
Oh I really...really loathe that type.

If you can't appreciate like Super Mario Galaxy simply because it doesn't have blood, cursing, or sex you're either dead inside or at least a closet gamer.
 
[quote name='Jek Porkins']STANDARD GAMING
•Console haters.
•Handheld haters. Gaming on the go can be great. Heck, there's a lot on handheld systems that is fun to play on the couch at home!
•Closed-minded gamers. I know some people only like certain games or genres, but give something new a try!

ONLINE
•The online gamer that intentionally disconnects to prevent a loss.
•The online gamer that intentionally lags.
•Abusive trash talkers. Some trash talk is fine, but keep it appropriate to the game.
•Kids that feel the need to act outside their age with language. You're 8 and love Halo? Cool, but don't feel the need to 'impress' me with swearing and trash talk.

GENERAL
•Game store employees that act in an overly-friendly manner, but don't bother to learn anything about my tastes before making a blind recommendation.
•Game store employees being jackasses in general. I'm thinking of the time that a guy tried to talk me out of buying Katamari Damacy by saying "That game sucks, you just roll this thing around!" This as I have my wallet out to pay for it. Good job, buddy!
•Game programmers that get into forum arguments with the general gaming population. If your game is good, it'll speak for itself. If it's not, your defense of it is a ridiculous permanent record of shame.
•Non-gamers that are unwilling to try any game at all. It's as bad as not reading or listening to music in my mind.[/quote]

I agree with alot of these only one I would add is gamers that cuss you out over xbox live because you beat them. I think it is uncalled for, and childish.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Oh God, the kind that really only tend to play these M-Rated games or games that are FPS and army games and other "MANLY MAN" kind of games..and bash on other types of games. It's actually pretty disturbing that some people feel their masculinity is defined by the games they play..:shock:

These people are also the people who bash every single game for the Wii. Everyone of them. Just STFU already.[/quote]

This type sucks. Unfortunately people that share this attitude towards games usually have the same attitude towards every other media they view.

It's not that they can't or don't want to enjoy a good game of Mario, it's just that they're too pussy to do what they deep down inside want to do. That doesn't seem very masculine to me to be honest.
 
[quote name='leveskikesko']This type sucks. Unfortunately people that share this attitude towards games usually have the same attitude towards every other media they view.

It's not that they can't enjoy a good game of Mario, it's just that they're too pussy to do what they want. That doesn't seem very masculine to me to be honest.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! They are the ones who rag on the Wii for "ruining gaming", yet they are the close minded ones who don't realize THEY are ruining gaming.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Exactly! They are the ones who rag on the Wii for "ruining gaming", yet they are the close minded ones who don't realize THEY are ruining gaming.[/QUOTE]

Well that's less because the games on the Wii are for kids and more because most of the games just aren't very enjoyable, but this is entirely off topic.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Exactly! They are the ones who rag on the Wii for "ruining gaming", yet they are the close minded ones who don't realize THEY are ruining gaming.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't make that over-generalization.

I hated the Wii and sold it as I didn't like the motion controls and hated all the casual games and shovel ware that were all I had to play in between the few Nintendo games and couple of decent third party games that weren't ports.

But I love Mario, Metroid, Zelda etc. I couldn't give a shit less if a game is "mature" or not. It just has to be fun.

And I didn't find motion control fun. And I don't find casual games fun. And lack of HD graphics and a decent online system lessened my fun.

In short, don't generalize that people hate the Wii because they're a bunch of macho meat heads who only like M rated games.

It's just not for some people for substantive reasons.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I wouldn't make that over-generalization.

I hated the Wii and sold it as I didn't like the motion controls and hated all the casual games and shovel ware that were all I had to play in between the few Nintendo games and couple of decent third party games that weren't ports.

But I love Mario, Metroid, Zelda etc. I couldn't give a shit less if a game is "mature" or not. It just has to be fun.

And I didn't find motion control fun. And I don't find casual games fun. And lack of HD graphics and a decent online system lessened my fun.

In short, don't generalize that people hate the Wii because they're a bunch of macho meat heads who only like M rated games.

It's just not for some people for substantive reasons.[/QUOTE]

No no no. There's a difference between:

"I wanted to like Super Mario Galaxy, but I just didn't like it. The controls just felt crappy and I couldn't get into it"

vs.

"Super Mario Galaxy is for kids, that shit looks stupid as fuck. I hate the Wii"

The ones who don't even attempt some of these games and jump on the hate wagon. Understand where I'm coming from now?
 
Exactly. People hate the Wii for different reasons. Some of them valid, some of them stupid.

You're post made it sound like everyone who hated the Wii fell into the latter category. I knew that probably wasn't what you meant, but wanted to call you out for talking in carelessly broad generalizations which is something you should know better than.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Exactly. People hate the Wii for different reasons. Some of them valid, some of them stupid.

You're post made it sound like everyone who hated the Wii fell into the latter category. I knew that probably wasn't what you meant, but wanted to call you out for talking in carelessly broad generalizations which is something you should know better than.[/quote]

to some extent it does. diablo 3 remember that game by blizzard being developed. when blizzard released the gameplay, the people didn't like it because it wasn't "dark" enough. that would hint that it was coming from people who are geared towards mature like games. they even made a petition for making the game darker.
 
[quote name='pochaccoheaven']to some extent it does. diablo 3 remember that game by blizzard being developed. when blizzard released the gameplay, the people didn't like it because it wasn't "dark" enough. that would hint that it was coming from people who are geared towards mature like games. they even made a petition for making the game darker.[/QUOTE]

What? I'm not saying such people don't hate the Wii etc.

I'm saying not everyone that doesn't dig Wii is someone that only likes Mature games.

Not that they're aren't a group of gamers pushing the "mature" game thing that is annoying as hell. Because their certainly is.

But plenty of people like me loved Nintendo games up to this generation and just couldn't get into the Wii.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I clearly don't think games are for kids since I play them and I turn 30 in a couple months, but I do think they are just to kill time.

Of course the main point is to have fun, but it's to have fun while killing time.

I don't see games as art, or as an enriching experience personally, so I play them just to kill time for the most part. But I'm not going to knock people who think they're more than that either. To each their own.[/quote]

I apologize, but if you actually have "time to kill" then you are either 12 or 80.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I apologize, but if you actually have "time to kill" then you are either 12 or 80.[/QUOTE]

Time to kill is a poor phrase, as I have to make time for stuff like games, movies etc.

I guess I should say games are nothing more to me than fun things to "waste time" with than to kill time, as it's just wasting time that I should be spending doing something more constructive when I need a break from said more constructive activity! :D

Guess the one exception would be playing a portable on a flight, waiting room etc. But even then I should be spending (and usually do spend) my time catching up on reading or writing for work/grad school.
 
[quote name='msdmoney']I loathe any gamers that feel the need to separate gamers or games into casual and hardcore. Especially those that ever use the term "real games".[/QUOTE]
I read a great article (or maybe it was on a Podcast) where somebody pointed out that we don't call people who read books casual or hardcore readers, or people who watch movies casual or hardcore watchers, so why call gamers casual or hardcore? It even went to the point of saying why call them gamers at all?
 
People who use the same move over and over because it's the only way they can win. That or exploiting game glitches/bugs to get the win. Just because it's available, doesn't mean you have to exploit it. Save that weak stuff for trying to unlock stuff quickly in single player. It just ruins multiplayer otherwise.

The distinction between EBGames and Gamestop. I've always thought that both were a mega ripoff and the employees not really any different. EBGames had better deals when it was around but I don't think that made the customer service any better.
 
[quote name='Renegade Moose']I read a great article (or maybe it was on a Podcast) where somebody pointed out that we don't call people who read books casual or hardcore readers, or people who watch movies casual or hardcore watchers, so why call gamers casual or hardcore? It even went to the point of saying why call them gamers at all?[/QUOTE]

Books we have "book worms."

Movies we have "movie buffs."

There are always distinctions between people only mildly into something and people who are into a hobby obsessively.

I'm not a fan of labels either, but just pointing out they do exist for things other than just games.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Books we have "book worms."

Movies we have "movie buffs."

There are always distinctions between people only mildly into something and people who are into a hobby obsessively.

I'm not a fan of labels either, but just pointing out they do exist for things other than just games.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but are there "casual" and "hardcore" movie buffs and bookworms? Can't there just be "gaming enthusiasts" and leave it at that?
 
gaming enthusiasts is a term formed from the same mindset that requires us to call retarded people developmentally disabled or whatever the hell it is now. It's just too damn long of a title that's more dignified than it needs to be.
 
[quote name='blueshinra']Yes, but are there "casual" and "hardcore" movie buffs and bookworms? Can't there just be "gaming enthusiasts" and leave it at that?[/QUOTE]
A bookworm is a hardcore reader. A hardcore bookworm would be redundant. Same with movie buff.

Also, "gaming enthusiasists?" Seriously?
 
I can't stand the following types:

my friend does this >.> annoys the hell out of me like genji ps3 is good but review was low so he thinks its crap >.> review score whore (the type that is would rather trust a review from a popular publication than their own opinion.)

People with headsets who cuss other people or play music in the damn thing >.> btw i know you can mute...

the know it all's, they think they know everything but they don't

bloody showoffs >.> "i got this trophy or skill im better than you" wow i dont have the game so yeah...

cheaters online

graphic whores again have a friend like this "the graphics are crap no purchase" >.> wth

The Japanophiles. If you really love Japan, man up and move from your parents basement to Tokyo, if you don't have the balls to do that, shut the fuck up.
Same here wat annoys me more im half jap so i can speak and read it cause my mum cant speak/read english very well then i get people noticing going up to me thinking i am the coolest in the world >.>

btw i hate the wii imo just not that great i want to like it but feel as if i got more out of my gamecube than it but Mario kart wii was awesome i still play until the batterys dies >.>
 
People who only hate on a game because it's popular (some are good, some may not be as good IMO).

Little kids on XBL who won't shut up, swearing at you, calling you lots of bad stuff, cheating online, etc.

Those who insists just because one reviewer says a game is good or bad, it's the truth. Or those who even say, a game is only AAA if it gets a 10/10 across the board.

Those who complain about a slower weekly update (with no new demos really) when publishers didn't exactly give free demos that week (talking about PS3 and 360 fans here).

Those who take gaming WAY too seriously. I'll never forget how someone started a thread on another forum saying he's selling his PS3 and all his Sony stuff because he's made he didn't get a home beta invite (when it's basically a drawing).

Those who feel the need to buy a crappy game just because it has easy achievements (and probably trophies down the road). One friend of mine in real life buys the worst 360 games (XBLA and retail at times), only because they have easier acheivements than the good stuff.

People who complain about a good game being $50-$60, yet they buy 10-12 really crappy games for $5 which they either never open or barely play.

Those people (although I'm a bit guilty myself), who claim they play their 360 so much more than their PS3 (or way better because of the games they have for it), when you look at the games you see them play, they are basically all multi-platform games (many of which are similar between the two platforms). I feel the same way vice versa (those who do it with PS3 crapping on 360). In reality, whichever platform someone buys all their multi-platform games, will most likely be their preferred platform regardless (I could careless if people do this, but don't blame another platform for sucking or whatever when you basically bought all your games for one platform over another). I TRY to look at it as, if you remove ALL multi-platform games, which would get more playing time and which is more appealing to me that way. It's like I own 11 360 games (which are not on PS3, ones comes to PS3 soon), 15 PS3 games (none on 360 also), and 14 are multi-platform with PS3/360, where I bought all on PS3. That brings my PS3 to 29 compared to 11 on 360. If I bought all on 360, it would be 26 games on 360 compared to 15 on PS3 (and oh course I'd play 360 more than PS3 if my multi-platform games were all on 360 instead).

Those who feel Wii is only a gimmick or only has non-games. Although I'm not really much of a Wii fan, I have played some fun games on it and I'm glad it's the way it is. Mario Kart Wii is great with the Wii remote + nunchuk and it's definitely a game IMO.

Those who complain there's a lack of PS1 games on PSN or VC games on Wii Shop. And when classic games come, complain about the ones who come. There are several games out there (and I've already heard from various publishers, licensing classic games is annoying) and the chances of a game you want being picked is usually very slim.
 
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[quote name='Rei no Otaku']A bookworm is a hardcore reader. A hardcore bookworm would be redundant. Same with movie buff.
[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

And we just hear the term "hardcore gamer" more from people who have been gaming for a long time and/or are really into games want to differentiate themselves from the frat boys playing madden etc. now that gaming is more mainstream. It's not like the label is used by non-gamers very often if at all.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
Those people (although I'm a bit guilty myself), who claim they play their 360 so much more than their PS3 (or way better because of the games they have for it), when you look at the games you see them play, they are basically all multi-platform games (many of which are similar between the two platforms). [/QUOTE]

To be fair people often have valid reasons for buying multiplatform games on one console over the other.

Prefer X-box Live for online gaming, have more friends on Live or PSN, prefer one controller to the other, fear RROD etc. So I don't think it's just rote fanboyism where they like one more for silly reasons and buy most multiplatform games for it as your post implies.
 
People who take metacritic way to seriously.

People who let others form their own opinion.

People who are too closed minded to try other games.

People who only buy madden.

People who only buy used games. (Support the Dev asshats!)
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']To be fair people often have valid reasons for buying multiplatform games on one console over the other.

Prefer X-box Live for online gaming, have more friends on Live or PSN, prefer one controller to the other, fear RROD etc. So I don't think it's just rote fanboyism where they like one more for silly reasons and buy most multiplatform games for it as your post implies.[/QUOTE]I know what you are saying, because I get what you mean.

I just don't like it when someone specifically says one platform is so much better than the other because they bought all multi-platform games on it (I'm talking about better as in games in general), when all they mostly do is buy all multi-platform games. If you are a single console owner with one console, that's fine.

I look at it this way (is how I'm trying to explain it):
PS3 has all the good games and 360 has no good games. Take a look at that person's PS3 collection, it has Oblivion, Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4, and Soul Calibur IV on it only. Then someone does the same thing for the 360 and says PS3 sucks. If we were comparing exclusive games, then that's a valid argument no doubt. If someone prefers one console over the other because of PSN vs. XBL, controller difference, etc., that's fine. But I'm just talking about the games themselves.
 
I hate the people who will shit on American games, especially popular ones (ie Halo, Bioshock), for the slightest flaw but they'll pray at the altar of Japanese games, no matter how terrible they are.

Also, I hate anyone that is assisting in fueling the "casual gaming" trend. It is to gaming as reality tv is to television.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']Exactly.

And we just hear the term "hardcore gamer" more from people who have been gaming for a long time and/or are really into games want to differentiate themselves from the frat boys playing madden etc. now that gaming is more mainstream. It's not like the label is used by non-gamers very often if at all.[/QUOTE]

That's the point, we don't need an all encompassing word to differentiate ourseleves from other gamers. Separating ourselves from the mainstream only ensures that we will be relegated to niche status in the future. Why do we have to separate ourselves?

"Movie buff" and "bookworm" don't speak to what types of movies or books a person enjoys. They are just terms to show that somebody is really into movie or books. Hardcore and casual are different, everyone has a different definition, but they are used to separate and classify gamers based on their tastes, unlike movie buff or bookworm.
 
[quote name='msdmoney']
"Movie buff" and "bookworm" don't speak to what types of movies or books a person enjoys. They are just terms to show that somebody is really into movie or books. Hardcore and casual are different, everyone has a different definition, but they are used to separate and classify gamers based on their tastes, unlike movie buff or bookworm.[/QUOTE]

True, and I hate labels in general.

Though this point with hardcore vs. casual gamers is a relatively new one, they didn't use to have connotations about tastes. A hardcore gamer was just a person who was really into games, just like a movie buff was a person really into movies.

But with the advent of "casual games" with the DS, Wii, games like bejeweled and The Sims before them it's changed the usage of the words.

But I agree, we really don't necessarily need labels as I hate them. But there is a difference between someone who buys 2 or 3 games a year and someone that buys 2 or 3 (or more) games a month, just like there's a difference between a person that reads 2 or 3 books a year and a book worm that reads 2 or 3 a week.

But who really cares what each type is called? Maybe it's just a non-issue to me since I'm a casual gamer in the old sense as gaming has really never been my main hobby/interest and isn't even close to being so now.
 
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[quote name='The Mana Knight']
I look at it this way (is how I'm trying to explain it):
PS3 has all the good games and 360 has no good games. Take a look at that person's PS3 collection, it has Oblivion, Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4, and Soul Calibur IV on it only. [/QUOTE]

That I can see, and that is annoying. But it's part of a larger pet peeve of people bashing consoles in general.

But that is annoying as people need to learn that 3rd party exclusives are pretty much dead, the only way to decide which console is better for you is by the 1st party games and substantive differences in things like the controllers, online services etc.

But in any case, there's no need to go rant about how the other console sucks, has no games etc. Just buy the one that suits you best, enjoy it and shut the fuck up about the competition.
 
I hate the people who will shit on American games, especially popular ones (ie Halo, Bioshock), for the slightest flaw but they'll pray at the altar of Japanese games, no matter how terrible they are.

Also, I hate anyone that is assisting in fueling the "casual gaming" trend. It is to gaming as reality tv is to television.
 
I just don't think the "casual" or "hardcore" label really accurately describes the wide field of games available. It would be more akin to trying to force a label on someone who only watches chick flicks vs. someone who only watches horror films, when in most instances it boils down to ones likes and tastes.

I myself, don't really consider myself "hardcore" or "casual" as I like a wide array of games. I enjoy playing games such as Brain Age, WiiSports which might be used to define the "casual" genre while on the opposite end I also enjoy more "hardcore" games such as Half Life and No More Heroes.

[quote name='dmaul1114']But that is annoying as people need to learn that 3rd party exclusives are pretty much dead, the only way to decide which console is better for you is by the 1st party games and substantive differences in things like the controllers, online services etc.[/quote]


This is probably true for the 360/PS3 but not so for the Wii/DS/PSP. I can't say if we're likely to see one console in the future, but it certainly appears to be headed that way at the moment.
 
People who spend all their time playing an MMO, then stop and complain that they wasted their life playing said MMO (got divorced, lost kids etc etc) like it's the MMO's fault.

It's not the games fault, it's yours for not moderating yourself to a reasonable amount of time.
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']I just don't think the "casual" or "hardcore" label really accurately describes the wide field of games available.[/quote]

Yeah, it really only works in the old sense. Hardcore=someone really into games. Casual=someone who just plays a game every now and then.

It doesn't work to classify gamers by types of games a person likes as it tend's to be used now. I mean you have people on here who will call people who just buy Madden, NBA2K, NHL and other sports games and dump 100's and 100's of hours into them casual gamers just because they personally hate sports games.

I'd call them hardcore gamers as they spend a shit ton of their free time playing video games.

But alas the hardcore/casual term isn't used to differentiate gamers by level of interest in/time devoted to gaming any more.


This is probably true for the 360/PS3 but not so for the Wii/DS/PSP. I can't say if we're likely to see one console in the future, but it certainly appears to be headed that way at the moment.
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True, the Wii is off on it's own as it offers something totally different. And the DS offers something very different that the PSP so what I said isn't applicable there.

But with 360/PS3 third party support really doesn't help much in deciding which is best for you. Have to look at the 1st party lineups, online services and hardware differences (controller, blurray, RROD etc.).
 
[quote name='Maklershed']I hate the people who will shit on American games, especially popular ones (ie Halo, Bioshock), for the slightest flaw but they'll pray at the altar of Japanese games, no matter how terrible they are.

Also, I hate anyone that is assisting in fueling the "casual gaming" trend. It is to gaming as reality tv is to television.[/quote]


Its true Europeans make the best games.
 
[quote name='benjamouth']People who spend all their time playing an MMO, then stop and complain that they wasted their life playing said MMO (got divorced, lost kids etc etc) like it's the MMO's fault.

It's not the games fault, it's yours for not moderating yourself to a reasonable amount of time.[/quote]

rofl. if you're the one with the problem how do you know that you have a problem? it's the wifes [or whoever it is your living with] fault as she [and others] has the power to intervene as she's outside from his mental state. this is assuming your living with someone. otherwise, it's definitely the person's fault.

if you're going to use first party to judge, then nintendo will kill sony and microsoft. nintendo have something that the other two don't have and it's not mario [but it can be].

also, in what sense does justifying that europeans create the best games?

everyone is guilty of supporting the "casual". everyone here has been on yahoo games and have played guitar hero and rock band. to say no is to lie to yourself.
 
[quote name='pochaccoheaven']rofl. if you're the one with the problem how do you know that you have a problem? it's the wifes [or whoever it is your living with] fault as she [and others] has the power to intervene as she's outside from his mental state. [/QUOTE]

What?

A person should realize that spending all of their free time on a game is not healthy.

You shouldn't need one else to tell you that your never leaving the house, paying attention to friends, your girlfriend your spouse etc. I mean sure, the significant other should say something, but people should have the self control to not let a hobby take over their lives. Most of the time the significant other probably is saying something and the behavior isn't changing hence the break-ups/divorces.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']What?

A person should realize that spending all of their free time on a game is not healthy.

You shouldn't need one else to tell you that your never leaving the house, paying attention to friends, your girlfriend your spouse etc. I mean sure, the significant other should say something, but people should have the self control to not let a hobby take over their lives. Most of the time the significant other probably is saying something and the behavior isn't changing hence the break-ups/divorces.[/quote]
you made an assumption on that.

you should talk to the people who smoke and do drugs. they say they're in control but are they really?! hmmm??

does a doctor diagnose themself or does another doctor diagnose their ailments? here's a great one, does a therapist treat their own problems or do they seek other therapists for help??
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Also, "gaming enthusiasists?" Seriously?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, lame, I know; best I could come up with at the time. "Gamer" could apply to just about anyone, same as "reader" or "moviegoer".

[quote name='msdmoney']That's the point, we don't need an all encompassing word to differentiate ourseleves from other gamers. Separating ourselves from the mainstream only ensures that we will be relegated to niche status in the future. Why do we have to separate ourselves?

"Movie buff" and "bookworm" don't speak to what types of movies or books a person enjoys. They are just terms to show that somebody is really into movie or books. Hardcore and casual are different, everyone has a different definition, but they are used to separate and classify gamers based on their tastes, unlike movie buff or bookworm.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for getting my point across better than I could.
 
"I Hate Gamestop" gamers. Half of them judge the company based on one store; the other half do it to be cool.

It's an extremely successful business, so obviously they're doing more things right than wrong.
 
I hate:
griefers
people who don't fight back and just run away all the time in online games
people who associate gamers WITH Madden
people who go out of their way to piss off/rip off retailers
the parents who buy their kids m-rated games then complain about all the violence.
 
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