THE LEGEND OF ZELDA (GBA)

Through my years of flea marketing I've came across Zelda for NES at least 50 times....ranging anywhere from .25-5.00, and NES systems for anywhere from 1.00-10.00. I've even bought bundles with several NES systems and tons of games for 10.00-20.00.

In otherwords, unless your a person who doesn't use all his shopping options (flea markets, pawn shops, thrift stores, etc), don't waste your money. This game can be gotten much much cheaper.
 
[quote name='Theenternal']I agree with the it being a little high priced, i think a lot of us feel that, fine its ok that the graphics are not updated, but 20 doesnt fit right. You figure the time it takes + cost of the cart for a new gba game thats about 29.99. These are simple to port (compared to desinging a whole new game, as there are already nes emulators for the gba + they can use less expensive carts. Its just easier to see that Nintendo is making more of a profit off of this than they are with other releases like metroid fusion.

Other rereleases like Zelda DX had some special features + color :p Or Super Mario DX which had SMB2 on it.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing, the only cost of development was creating and emulator to run NES games on GBA. Companies always talk about most of the cost going into developing the game in this case the really isnt any development and the old games have deffinitely made a lot of money before they stoped making the game. Id deffinietely buy it but $20 still seems steep but ill deffinitely be looking for the games used.
 
I realize I came into this conversation a bit late, but recently at thrift stores my cousin bought a NES with 2 controllers, Mario 3, and Mario/Duckhunt for $5, and I saw one with just the Mario/Duckhunt for $15, so you can find it cheaper if you look hard enough. On the other hand, Nintendo has put out a lot of great original games, and rehashes and ports for GBA can be good ideas since its mainly for gaming on the go. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, Bubb Rubb is stupid, but therein lies the humor of that news story.
 
I was thinking that the map would be on the second screen of the DS!

Also, Animal crossings does not appear to have Zelda or Super Mario Bros.
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']Through my years of flea marketing I've came across Zelda for NES at least 50 times....ranging anywhere from .25-5.00, and NES systems for anywhere from 1.00-10.00. I've even bought bundles with several NES systems and tons of games for 10.00-20.00.

In otherwords, unless your a person who doesn't use all his shopping options (flea markets, pawn shops, thrift stores, etc), don't waste your money. This game can be gotten much much cheaper.[/quote]

Yes, but the portability factor. Having Super Mario Bros. on the go is.. well, my kind of on the go game. I love turning on the old NES for a few minutes of Mario Bros randomly - I'd love it even more if I could do it anywhere.

And Zelda's a classic, well worth 15 dollars to anyone. I own it on NES, yes. Would I pay ~10 extra for a portable version? Yes.
 
Zelda is the only one even remotely worth buying and even then......it's kind of steep. Yet, I still can't resist Zelda on the run.
 
seriously... if you've already got these carts (like me)... why the hell not consider a flash cart?

i remember defender having some flash carts some for at his B&M store...

roms are legal if you have the original....
I damn near filled my entire collection of NES games on a single cart...

cost me a about a hundred... but i didnt have to plop 20 bucks a cart to play on gba....

thats cheap ass isnt it?

why should i buy all six games for 120 if i already have them... and can play dozens and dozens more on the same cart?

personally... my life has never been the same since i've done this... my ENTIRE childhood... IN MY POCKET...
and it didnt cost me 20 more dollars per verbatim game.

(flame shield necessary?
probably...)
 
[quote name='karmapolice620']I have a great idea...go buy and NES find these games for 5-10 bucks on ebay and play your heart out...[/quote]

Let's not forget the fact that the draw is their portability!


Joystick - I have a "thing" for authentic software.
 
[quote name='SolinariDotCom'][quote name='karmapolice620']I have a great idea...go buy and NES find these games for 5-10 bucks on ebay and play your heart out...[/quote]

Let's not forget the fact that the draw is their portability!


Joystick - I have a "thing" for authentic software.[/quote]

same here man.... but dont forget i have the REAL DEAL authentics in my collection...
have a look.
 

roms are legal if you have the original....
I damn near filled my entire collection of NES games on a single cart...

NO! NO! NO! Do not listen to that man!
Rights to an archival copy are not granted by Nintendo's software liscense. Go look it up. Say it's cheaper, say it's easier, but don't go around saying it's legal. It's not like an archival copy of a computer program from a floppy disk... you aren't granted the rights to an archival copy... and to top it off, in the liscence argeement for later games, you are expressly forbid by the terms of the liscensing argreement to make archival copies.

To top it off, even if it were completely legal to make archival copies of a software, you would have to rip the software from your own cartridge... downloading roms off of the internet, EVEN IF you own the same software is still software piracy.


cost me a about a hundred... but i didnt have to plop 20 bucks a cart to play on gba....thats cheap ass isnt it?
It's also illegal. If that doesn't bother you, fine... I'm not about to judge. But don't go around spreading the same myths about the proper use and legality of ROMS. I swear these people just believe all of they read on thier ROMS site. I bet you believe in the 24 hour rule too. I'd like to see the part of the law that grants that right.


why should i buy all six games for 120 if i already have them... and can play dozens and dozens more on the same cart?
Because it's illegal? It's even more illegal now, since Nintendo has reissued and is reselling the code. Your "victimless crime" now has a victim again.


personally... my life has never been the same since i've done this... my ENTIRE childhood... IN MY POCKET...
and it didnt cost me 20 more dollars per verbatim game.

That's nice. Enjoy it all you want. But it isn't legal... and you should go around spreading the myth that it is.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal'][quote name='emperordahc']I'll probably get Zelda out of duty; someplace like Target may have it on sale when it's released.

Yea, they should have chunked all those games in one pak and charged $25.[/quote]

What do you mean 'duty'? Are you a zombie? Employee of Nintendo?[/quote]
I tend to call it "Total Nintendo Whore", but "zombie" can substitute just fine.
 
It does seem the old game cost too much,but lets not forget about inflation over these years.. 20 years ago, this $20 they charge is probably only $10...
 
Im just comparing them to other the other gba titles or the rereleases. but someone did point out earlier that these may be intended as collectables... so imo the 20 dollars wouldn't seem as bad if zelda was released gold :) and had the old maps
 
[quote name='Theenternal']Im just comparing them to other the other gba titles or the rereleases. but someone did point out earlier that these may be intended as collectables... so imo the 20 dollars wouldn't seem as bad if zelda was released gold :) and had the old maps[/quote]
Yea, those maps and a gold cartridge would kick ass. I've got all my original maps all laminated, etc in my original box I had since I was a kid. ;)
 
[quote name='emperordahc'][quote name='Theenternal']Im just comparing them to other the other gba titles or the rereleases. but someone did point out earlier that these may be intended as collectables... so imo the 20 dollars wouldn't seem as bad if zelda was released gold :) and had the old maps[/quote]
Yea, those maps and a gold cartridge would kick ass. I've got all my original maps all laminated, etc in my original box I had since I was a kid. ;)[/quote]

That's awesome, I have my Zelda Map laminated as well. I also have that long fold out map from Nintendo Power laminated. I think discovering lamination was the best thing that happened to me as a gamer and a child. Now my abundance of maps can take up too much space for all eternity!
 
My bro owns Donkey Kong Country 3. But after blowing hours and hours on the game, only to have the cartridge erase his save slots each time, he finally just played through it on an emulator and beat the game. At that point I gotta say that the ins and outs of the legality don't bother me.

But back on topic... despite the above argument I really am kind of a stickler for having "authentic" games (buying stuff like Sonic Mega Collection, Mega Man Anniversary, and various arcade collections, despite having all the ROMs), but I'm not sure if I'll be getting these for the SP. One of the main draws is the "collectability" and I usually care very little for packaging. I never keep my game discs in the cases they come with as I use one of those CD binders to hold them all. So map or no map, it won't be incentive for me to shell out $20 for it. But I could totally understand why someone would, especially if they played the game a lot back in the day (I actually just watched someone play it).
 
[quote name='JSweeney']
roms are legal if you have the original....
I damn near filled my entire collection of NES games on a single cart...

NO! NO! NO! Do not listen to that man!
Rights to an archival copy are not granted by Nintendo's software liscense. Go look it up. Say it's cheaper, say it's easier, but don't go around saying it's legal. It's not like an archival copy of a computer program from a floppy disk... you aren't granted the rights to an archival copy... and to top it off, in the liscence argeement for later games, you are expressly forbid by the terms of the liscensing argreement to make archival copies.

[/quote]

so basically... its only cool to flash them one at a time?
wtf?

fine.... at least someone can flash them one at a time and still save money....

look... i'm all about collectin too... and Ninteno IS gonna get me money for the new zelda print anyway...
so dont think i'm a total ass... but seriously....
20 for each game? c'mon...

would it be legal to flash one by one?
if not... would you sleep easier at night?
 
[quote name='joystickz'][quote name='JSweeney']
roms are legal if you have the original....
I damn near filled my entire collection of NES games on a single cart...

NO! NO! NO! Do not listen to that man!
Rights to an archival copy are not granted by Nintendo's software liscense. Go look it up. Say it's cheaper, say it's easier, but don't go around saying it's legal. It's not like an archival copy of a computer program from a floppy disk... you aren't granted the rights to an archival copy... and to top it off, in the liscence argeement for later games, you are expressly forbid by the terms of the liscensing argreement to make archival copies.

[/quote]

so basically... its only cool to flash them one at a time?
wtf?

fine.... at least someone can flash them one at a time and still save money....

look... i'm all about collectin too... and Ninteno IS gonna get me money for the new zelda print anyway...
so dont think i'm a total ass... but seriously....
20 for each game? c'mon...

would it be legal to flash one by one?
if not... would you sleep easier at night?[/quote]

You misunderstand completely.

One on a card or one hundred, they're all illegal unless you fit into some very tight constraints.

Basically, the only time an archival copy of an old NES game would be legal was if you made the ROM image yourself from a copy the original media you owned, and there is no clause in the liscencing agreement that expressly forbids making archival copies of the software.

Put simply, unless you made the rom image yourself, and you know that the liscencing agreement on the game specifically states that you are allowed to make an archival copy for back-up purposes, the rom is illegal.

I don't care if people have roms, one or even a harddrive full, unless it is of current software (but that is a different argument entirely).
I just don't like how people put out these ridiculous myths that end up being taken as fact, just because the userbase is wanting to believe it is true, or just too plain lazy to check up on it. The 24 hour rule is a great example. Pirated software is illegal. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It isn't any less illegal if you only keep it for 24 hours and delete it or if you keep it forever.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']
You misunderstand completely.

One on a card or one hundred, they're all illegal unless you fit into some very tight constraints.

Basically, the only time an archival copy of an old NES game would be legal was if you made the ROM image yourself from a copy the original media you owned, and there is no clause in the liscencing agreement that expressly forbids making archival copies of the software.

Put simply, unless you made the rom image yourself, and you know that the liscencing agreement on the game specifically states that you are allowed to make an archival copy for back-up purposes, the rom is illegal.

I don't care if people have roms, one or even a harddrive full, unless it is of current software (but that is a different argument entirely).
I just don't like how people put out these ridiculous myths that end up being taken as fact, just because the userbase is wanting to believe it is true, or just too plain lazy to check up on it. The 24 hour rule is a great example. Pirated software is illegal. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It isn't any less illegal if you only keep it for 24 hours and delete it or if you keep it forever.[/quote]

thanks for cleearing that up.
you have my solemn swaer to never ever spread misinformed information on the subject of rom usage and its legal standings.

now if you'll excuse me... i'm gonna go play some zelda....

on my gameboy.
with my new gba cartridge from japan.

just to play it safe.
 
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