The mainstream media finally confronts McCain on Ayers hypocrisy

Nice clip but Letterman isn't the mainstream media. He's a talk show host on CBS but no one goes to him for news. It's like saying Entertainment Tonight is part of the mainstream media.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Nice clip but Letterman isn't the mainstream media. He's a talk show host on CBS but no one goes to him for news. It's like saying Entertainment Tonight is part of the mainstream media.[/quote]
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Did I say mainstream media? I meant Letterman.[/quote]
 
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Your thread title is misleading. You can't put a disclaimer at the bottom and expect people not to say anything. I didn't even see it until I scrolled down to make a comment.
 
Actually, I'm with the OP. Letterman would (and certainly will) be lumped in with the "mainstream liberal media" for calling out McCain's double standards, so the title is accurate enough for the people who'd mount a defense on behalf of McCain. Anyway, that's a pretty minor point, compared to how sad it is that it has to be a talk-show host who picks up the slack on stuff like this.
 
But that means that anyone that criticizes McCain and is on TV would be lumped in with the "liberal mainstream media". Also, if the country is pretty even divided down the middle, wouldn't centrist points of view be considered mainstream?

Don't get me wrong. I like how Letterman went after McCain but I'm not going to say that a late night talk show is the equivalent of an interview with someone on CNN, MSNBC, or Faux News.
 
[quote name='depascal22']But that means that anyone that criticizes McCain and is on TV would be lumped in with the "liberal mainstream media".[/QUOTE]

Yep. Pretty much. I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying that's the way "(mainstream) liberal media" is typically used. From CBS to Time to CNN to Tina Fey to Colbert to Kanye to American Dad: they're all "liberal media," as defined by the people who believe in such things.

[quote name='depascal22']Also, if the country is pretty even divided down the middle, wouldn't centrist points of view be considered mainstream?[/QUOTE]

You *should* be right, but it doesn't actually work that way. "Mainstream" is just meant to denote the view that supposedly dominates; in this case, "liberal."

You touch on the idea that if it's so mainstream, maybe it's actually the centrist view after all, and that's a good point (if the people on the fringes yell that the center is actually the opposite extreme for long enough, they manage to make the moderate position more extreme by default), but that's another thread. This = McCain + Letterman.
 
In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "proud" of Liddy, and praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great." From the program:

LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.

Which of Liddy's "principles and philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of break-ins? Firebombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings? Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to firebomb a Washington think tank, assassinate a prominent journalist, undertake the Watergate burglary, break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, and kidnap anti-war protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-bernstein/ayers-and-the-mccain-g-go_b_134256.html

Too bad Dave didn't bother to mention McCain's firebombing of the first amendment with campaign finance reform. I guess that's too old to be relevant.
 
It's cool. Obama was 8 when Weather Underground was in full swing, while McCain was 80 when Liddy was breaking into hotels. So it kinda balances out, depending on how you look at it.
 
$230K? That's it?

That's like...what....a new dress for Cindy McCain?

God the way people have been talking about it I thought they had enough money to make Halo a reality.
 
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