The "Nobody Watches Wrestling Anymore" Wrestling Thread

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:lol: Yeah. Screw Michelle McCool. 'Kinda last name is "McCool" anyway? Makes me think of a frosty dessert treat from the golden arches.
 
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I'm a longtime lurker to the wrestling threads and even I stopped caring. Kinda miss that Zen Davis and his Ring of Honor pimping tho.
 
I have to admit, I still like the Boogyman. I won't argue he's a great wrestler or anything, just something about his matches draws me there. There's almost a charisma there, for lack of a better word. The closest thing I can liken it to is Santino. I never care about Santiino's matches for the wrestling aspect, yet if he's on the screen, I stop/look/ and enjoy.

And, the Michele McCool comment only reminds me how sick I am of the WWE Divas. They are beautiful eye candy. The problem is, I'm 30, I see beautiful women all the time. I can also flip on almost any other channel and see women in just as tiny of outfits, possibly with better story lines (or a dvd where there are no clothes nor story lines). Point is, throwing a couple attractive women in the ring isn't good enough.

I don't watch much TNA, but the times I do watch, their division seems to be so much better. The women can wrestle, and Awesome Kong truely looks like a force. And, even though the diva wrestling is a bit better than say a year or 2 ago, it's still not watchable on its own merits.

Plus, can we get a different sort of storyline, mix it up. Right now, I'd love to see something like this. Next week, Kane just destroy Orton. Don't even make it a match, Kane attacks with a chair and punishes him. Orton's going to complain to Vince the next week, but is drugged, and wakes up next to Natalia..who blackmails her way into Orton's Legacy. This leads to ticking off Vince who throws Orton into some sort of match to maintain his Rumble entry. This sets up some sort of Kelly Kelly, Natalia feud where someone might actually care about it on some storyline level.

Won't happen.
 
myke is clearly in extra cynical mode.:) It's fairly accurate, though. At this point it seems the only people watching wrestling are those who have always watched it. More often than not I feel like I'm watching out of habit, not because I can't wait to see what happens next. Dutt/Sabin had a good match a couple of weeks back but that's the only thing that really sticks out for me recently. Oh well...
 
I'll agree on Boogeyman. He has a great look and great charisma. 5 years after he's gone, we'll say "he was awesome! I miss his entrance!" ad nauseum.

Like nobody seems to remember what a shitty wrestler Gangrel was: just that the Brood was cool.

And the Michael Cole bingo board has made me care again. Wow.
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']And, the Michele McCool comment only reminds me how sick I am of the WWE Divas. They are beautiful eye candy. The problem is, I'm 30, I see beautiful women all the time. I can also flip on almost any other channel and see women in just as tiny of outfits, possibly with better story lines (or a dvd where there are no clothes nor story lines). Point is, throwing a couple attractive women in the ring isn't good enough.[/QUOTE]It's weird how they've come full circle on the Divas. Before they had too many Divas who just hung around with NO purpose, even in kayfabe. You had a bunch of women who didn't wrestle, didn't manage anybody, and only occasionally got involved in extended angles. They were just... there.

Now pretty much ALL of the women wrestle. But they really shouldn't! So instead of too many Divas doing nothing, you've got Divas doing too much.#-o
 
Gangrel and Just Joe. It's like someone selected the question mark on the wrestler select screen for a tag match.

The Brood was definitely awesome in the original incarnation, though. Gangrel wasn't that bad. He had mediocre offense but his selling ruled, especially when someone would grab him for a chokeslam. Dude made his fat vampire face look like it was going to explode.

And yeah, easily one of the best entrances ever.

[quote name='mykevermin']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgn36PVaSc[/QUOTE]
Let us not forget the originators:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23DDoLCdmQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8ZZVimW_k

Academy award-level performance from Heidenreich at the beginning of that second one.
 
lol @ "Steal the damn victory!"

I thought The Brood was awful, but their entrance theme was hot fire.
 
So apparently, Ted DiBiase Jr. was written out of the storylines (and will be back late February) so he could film The Marine 2, which he's the lead star in.

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[quote name='BustaUppa']it's a weird detail to stick out, but I always loved Gangrel's irish whips.[/QUOTE]
Ha, I was actually going to mention that but didn't want to overdo it on the praise...but yeah, I like how he would sort of jump into the air in the middle of it. It made it seem like there was more impact behind it.
 
"I like what you do to babies" :rofl:

As far as the thread titles go. I still watch wrestling, albeit half-heartedly. If there's a good match on, I'm glued to RAW and SD. This past week just happened to be an exception.

ECW I barely glance at anymore since I'm sick to fuckin death of Hardy/Henry every fuckin week. It alsop doesn't hellp that Sydal is still on the shelf. He's one fo the main reason I even watch ECW anymore.

TNA just serves as background noise these days.
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']I sooooooo miss the Dudley Boyz, they walked around like to retards and were pretty entertaining especially when they slapped each other up side the head. lool

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Wow... look at dez gems. lool[/QUOTE]My favorite Dudleys feud (didn't see original ECW) was when Trish kept messing with Bubba's head. Evil slutty Trish was always awesome!
 
I enjoyed the Dudley Family faction, and remember my cousin asking, "There's a wrestler named Dances with Dudley?!" :lol: Fun times. I miss ECW. One of many things I liked about ECW was that in the tag team division you knew everyone had a fair chance at 'winning'. I was a big fan of FBI (Little Guido to be specific) and the Impact Players (Lance Storm to be specific). I would listen to Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama on loop. :oops:
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']I sooooooo miss the Dudley Boyz, they walked around like to retards and were pretty entertaining especially when they slapped each other up side the head. lool

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Wow... look at dez gems. lool[/QUOTE]

Wait a gall-damn minute:

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That's Kevin Sullivan and the Honky Tonk Man?!?!?!
 
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[quote name='mykevermin']That's Kevin Sullivan and the Honky Tonk Man?!?!?![/QUOTE]

Just seeing that name makes me weap for the return of the Honk-A-Meter. :cry:

Hush Scorch. I can hear you already. ;)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llIfgQ7v2Y

Picture up there reminded me I found this the other day: HTM's first match in the WWF - as a face. Vince actually refers to him as Wayne Farris a few times. Fuji's insert promo is both funny and pointless.

In the related vids on that Youtube page they have his first match as a heel, as well as the angle I *completely* forgot about during the period where they were teasing that T may be involved in a new angle as a ref after WM3, which obviously never happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewDzkEhLpAE

Ventura's commentary in the last minute or so of that video cracks me up. "What a gracious champion!" "Look at that behind the head guitar playing. Unbelievable."
 
I just finished watching SD! earlier today and thought to myself "damn Cole sure likes the word Vintage".

So I loled pretty hard at the bingo. Thinking I might just play it this Fri for shits & gigs
 
All my wrestling watching is via torrent download these days (unless I happen to be visiting my parents on a Monday or Friday). My main reason is the simple fact that I don't have cable, but the DVR-style benefits that everyone else mentioned are a nice bonus too. Not to mention it's a great way to kill time during work. :cool:
 
the only show i ever watch now is RAW and that just out of habit, same 5 people every week. pizza, wheel of fortune, jeopardy, big bang theory, channel surf, RAW, part ways. (its a white trash evening) the occasional PPV buy gets tossed in there as well.
 
I watch RAW, ECW I only read the spoilers on Monday night, and SD! I do read the spoilers too on Tuesday so I can decide if it's worth watching or not.
Maybe watching RAW live is the only thing people care about.
 
I don't know, I used to care what happened, but now I'm just not watching...have I grown out of wrestling? I miss ECW, their house shows were the ultimate!
 
I think a company that has a very cheaply produced, weekly televised product that doesn't insult the fans' intelligence will succeed in bringing back another "peak" in pro wrestling interest.

And I don't mean ROH. ROH is fan service; they have some great ideas that can be stolen, but they suffer from (1) too little mainstream exposure (and don't bullshit yourself into thinking being in "The Wrestler" means a goddamned thing), (2) too much talent rotation in the overall roster, and (3) too much top-card concentration.

In terms of a product, there's not much of a card hierarchy. Folks can work the first match one night, and wrestle in the main event the next. That's good because it avoids the whole "Triple H and these guys hog the spotlight" stuff, but it's bad because it makes everyone seem equal. There's little anticipation to say "oh, I can't wait to see so-and-so come out and wrestle!" Guys like Claudio Castignoli and Nigel McGuinness are perfect examples of that.

Second, the ROH product has no flow to it. I sat in attendance at the 1-hour CM Punk/Samoa Joe "World Title Classic" match, and was bored out of my fuckin' gourd, man. Why? The match was amazing. Looking back on DVD, I was angry that I sat on my hands during the match. But you know what? I was exhausted. There was no "build" on the show. It was 3.5-4 hours of strong-style wrestling: hard hits, near falls out the ass, and a focus on wrestling. No comedy matches, no tits-n-ass. Not that I *want* those things, but a wrestling show needs those things to keep the crowd into the product. ROH wore me out before the main event. I'd seen enough grappling by that point.

It's the opposite of the WWE/TNA product, where we're starved for wrestling matches that are fun to watch, mean something, and have consequences.

Anyone who develops a fine medium, IMO, will be the next company to lead the resurgence of professional wrestling. Something like the NWA of the 1990's.

And, of course, any company that does away with "general managers" and 20-minute in-ring segments. So much storyline can be summed up in a "news" segment, and so much time is wasted with 7 entrances and 10 minutes saying what can be done in 60-90 seconds, with the same reaction.

You know, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJa8ZvQFpVI
 
I was thinking about this the other day. Why the hell have we not seen an assload of WCW/ECW dvds coming out? Vince and company have the rights to all these right? So why are they not being put out(besides on WWE 24/7)?
 
The Best of Starrcade DVD comes out this month, but you're right. Vince owns an absurd amount of wrestling libraries, but does hardly anything with them. He owns them, so apparently that's enough for him. I guess his ego won out over making money, but I bet it was a close race.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'][ROH stuff][/QUOTE]Weird, we had almost the EXACT same discussion at wrestling practice this week. About how you need psychology not only in an individual match, but for a show as a whole. The trainer was expounding on the idea that a show needs to BUILD to the main event, and how matches on different spots in the card play different roles in that overall build. The style, tone, and overall length of a match all come into play. The problems you mentioned with ROH are exactly the kind of things that my trainer was cautioning against.
 
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