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Can't wait till it comes out, Post your thoughts about the upcoming book here!

* Burbage dies on pg. 12

* Hedwig dies on pg. 56

* Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78

* Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159

* Wormtail dies on pg. 471

* Dobby dies on pg. 476

* Snape dies on pg. 658

* Fred Weasley dies on pg. 637

* Harry gets ****ed up by Voldemort on pg. 704
o Comes back to life on pg. 724

* Tonks, Lupin, and Colin Creevy have their deaths confirmed on pg. 743

* Voldemort kills himself on pg. 743

19 years after the events in the book:

* Ron has married Hermione, their two children are named Rose and Hugo

* Harry has married Ginny, their three children are named Lily, James, and Albus Severus.

* Draco Malfoy has a son named Scorpius
 
Could you use spoiler tags, please? People are ALL done with it, so they still may want to discuss what happens on page 345.

Sodomy ;)
 
Last night I was out by a Barnes and Noble, me and my friends spotted a plane with scrolling text showing Harry Potter spoilers. It was pretty funny that someone would actually pay to do that.
 
i just finished reading the online "leaked" version and it's a completely different book than the real one. i dunno if it was a really cleaver ruse by j.k.r. and the publishers, or some rabid fans that spent way too much time on it, but i'd highly recommend it.
 
Havent finished yet because I decided not to stay up last night and read it, but its by far the best book out of the series.
 
Voldemort doesn't kill himself, his spell rebounds because Harry was the master of the Elder Wand and it didn't want to kill him.

My only problem with the book was the change of Snape's role. Why, if he wanted to protect Harry so much, was he so contemptuous towards him?
Was it because Harry was James' son? That reason seems weak to me.

Over all though, I loved it. Probably my favorite out of the seven.
 
just finished, ending was kinda cheesy, but i guess it was to be expected


even though it was so quick i liked the feeling of isolation of the harry ron and hermoine, the escape scene from the dursley's was amazing, there was def some lulls in the storyline. Having a lot of characters step up was a nice touch like Neville, Kreacher, and even Percy. The him dying part seemed kinda hokey to me, and also the way Riddle died. I kind of wished she didnt write an epilogue so we could imagine what happens ourselves, or at least fleshed it out a little more.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
Voldemort doesn't kill himself, his spell rebounds because Harry was the master of the Elder Wand and it didn't want to kill him.

My only problem with the book was the change of Snape's role. Why, if he wanted to protect Harry so much, was he so contemptuous towards him?
Was it because Harry was James' son? That reason seems weak to me.

Over all though, I loved it. Probably my favorite out of the seven.
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If you were given the duty of protecting the spawn of your hated enemy, and your first and only love, you probably would have some contempt for it too. Harry's a living reminder of what Snape could never have.

I just finished reading the book and I admit I was highly dissapointed. The talking during the final showdown seemed to be building up to a climax that didnt deliver. As corny as it would've been, something along the lines of all the souls coming back to help harry out (like in GoF) would've been more suitable.

I think the epilogue just added more gas to the 'generic happy ending' fire.

Who ever would've guessed, Kids named Albus, Lily and James.

I preferred one of the fake ending spoilers someone had posted in another thread which involved Draco creating horcruxes. Now thats the ending i like, one that leaves you hanging and begging for more.
 
I found around 70-80% of the book to be completely bullshit.

Like the Deathly Hallows. I'm not a huge fan of the series, but, what the fuck? Teh most uber wand in the world?! ZOMG!

It could've ended better. The whole thing was anticlimatic.

The best book is still Prisoner of Azkaban.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Oh, one more thing: how did
Neville get Gryffindor's sword to kill Nagini? Didn't Griphook run off with it?
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he pulled it out of the sorting hat, it belonged to gryfindor, prob inherited it or bought it, he put a spell on it that only a true gryfindor student would be able to use it in a time of need, just like harry against the basilisk. So it prob got zapped from griphook when needed.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']
he pulled it out of the sorting hat, it belonged to gryfindor, prob inherited it or bought it, he put a spell on it that only a true gryfindor student would be able to use it in a time of need, just like harry against the basilisk. So it prob got zapped from griphook when needed.
[/QUOTE]Ah, I must have missed that.
Thanks!
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Oh, one more thing: how did
Neville get Gryffindor's sword to kill Nagini? Didn't Griphook run off with it?
[/quote] I was confused about this as well. There were a few other random moments that were inconsistent too,
like when Ron or Hermione said "One more Horcrux left!" just after they found the Hufflepuff goblet. They were referring to the diadem, but that only brought the count to 5 at that point, and Harry didn't know at that point that HE was a horcrux, and then of course there was Nagini... I might've missed or forgotten something though...

Just finished it a little while ago. I enjoyed it overall, and I'm glad there was a happy ending (even if it was expected).

I think overall I enjoyed the earlier books (especialy PoA), through OotP. The 6th and 7th books were good, but so much more complicated and dark then the rest of the series. 6 + 7 feel somewhat apart from the earlier books. Still I enjoyed the series overall.

Edit: Thanks Ikohn for pointing that out.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
Voldemort doesn't kill himself, his spell rebounds because Harry was the master of the Elder Wand and it didn't want to kill him.

My only problem with the book was the change of Snape's role. Why, if he wanted to protect Harry so much, was he so contemptuous towards him?
Was it because Harry was James' son? That reason seems weak to me.

Over all though, I loved it. Probably my favorite out of the seven.
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maybe alot fo that came from the fact
he loved his mother so much and still did and wished it could have been him marrying her not james. harry is a constant reminder of 2 things 1 that he never got to be with lilly and 2 of all the shit he had to put up with due to harrys dad and his friends.

chances are he never had any real chance with her anyway but if it hadnt been for harrys father doing what he did to him he would not have lost her as a friend when he called her a mudblood. he still hated his dad and being he looks so much like he dad it was easier for him to hate harry to because of that and the guilt he felt over causing harrys parents death.
 
this book was awesome definelty the best in the lot for a number of reasons. it did drag pretty slowly in spots but all in all id say it was even better than the 5th book( which im surprised alot of people supposedly hated).
 
[quote name='lokizz']maybe alot fo that came from the fact
he loved his mother so much and still did and wished it could have been him marrying her not james. harry is a constant reminder of 2 things 1 that he never got to be with lilly and 2 of all the shit he had to put up with due to harrys dad and his friends.

chances are he never had any real chance with her anyway but if it hadnt been for harrys father doing what he did to him he would not have lost her as a friend when he called her a mudblood. he still hated his dad and being he looks so much like he dad it was easier for him to hate harry to because of that and the guilt he felt over causing harrys parents death.
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I am going to have to disagree with that
even though he was a constant reminder of james, it was the eyes that shaped snape. Lily's eyes represented everything to snape, love, joy, sadness, regret, anger. Imagine seeing the eyes of the person you were responsible for killing that you loved every day. It prob was torture for Snape. I think he used James as excuse to express his own guilt. All of that makes me feel he is probably the most tragic figure in the series, especially cause Lily never knew
 
Yeah, I came to the conclusion that Harry reminded Snape of the torment that James subjected him to and of how he had lost Lily to James. He did, however, save Harry multiple times because he was Lily's son.

I like it more after thinking through it. I agree with Ikohn that he is the most tragic character in the series.
 
[quote name='moiety']I was confused about this as well. There were a few other random moments that were inconsistent too,
like when Ron or Hermione said "One more Horcrux left!" just after they found the Hufflepuff goblet. They were referring to the diadem, but that only brought the count to 5 at that point, and Harry didn't know at that point that HE was a horcrux, and then of course there was Nagini... I might've missed or forgotten something though...
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The 7 were Tom Riddle's Diary, The Marvolo Ring, Slytherin's locket, Hufflepuff's Cup, Ravenclaw's diadem, Nagini and Voldemort himself. He didn't make 7 horcruxes, he made six leaving his soul in 7 pieces. The fact that Harry was one would make 8 total, but Voldemort didn't plan for that to happen, it was an accident.

So, when they said "one more left", it left the only unknown one at that point the diadem. They knew about the snake and Voldemort, but they needed to find that last horcrux first.

TBW
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
I agree with Ikohn that he is the most tragic character in the series.
[/quote]
I agree with this. My feelings for Snape definitely evolved over the series. Beginning as the mean Potions teacher who seemed to have it out for Harry, questioning his loyalties, believing he betrayed Dumbledore, then finally learning where his heart was all along. I really felt for him in the end.
 
[quote name='TheBlueWizard']
The 7 were Tom Riddle's Diary, The Marvolo Ring, Slytherin's locket, Hufflepuff's Cup, Ravenclaw's diadem, Nagini and Voldemort himself. He didn't make 7 horcruxes, he made six leaving his soul in 7 pieces. The fact that Harry was one would make 8 total, but Voldemort didn't plan for that to happen, it was an accident.

So, when they said "one more left", it left the only unknown one at that point the diadem. They knew about the snake and Voldemort, but they needed to find that last horcrux first.

TBW[/quote]
I don't believe Voldemort was a Horcrux. Page 709, Dumbledore tells Harry: "You were the seventh Horcrux, Harry, the Horcrux he never meant to make."
So at that point, there were really 2 unknowns: the diadem, and Harry. I was confused because it made it sound like they were looking for only 6 Horcruxes, when I thought it was clear from Book 6 there were 7.
 
[quote name='moiety']
I don't believe Voldemort was a Horcrux. Page 709, Dumbledore tells Harry: "You were the seventh Horcrux, Harry, the Horcrux he never meant to make."
So at that point, there were really 2 unknowns: the diadem, and Harry. I was confused because it made it sound like they were looking for only 6 Horcruxes, when I thought it was clear from Book 6 there were 7.
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He made 6 horcruxes and left the 7th part of his soul in his body. Part of his soul, which was unstable due to being split so many times, entered Harry when he first tried to kill Harry, making Harry a horcrux as well.
7 horcruxes (one made without the knowledge or intent of Voldemort), and one soul in eight pieces.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
He made 6 horcruxes and left the 7th part of his soul in his body. Part of his soul, which was unstable due to being split so many times, entered Harry when he first tried to kill Harry, making Harry a horcrux as well.
7 horcruxes (one made without the knowledge or intent of Voldemort), and one soul in eight pieces.
[/quote] Ah yes, that's right. Thank you.

Reading so much in a short period of time leaves some details forgotten. :oops:
 
How does splitting something make it unstable?
If you cut cake into 8 pieces it doesn't randomly shoot more pieces into the body of anyone who it is tring to kill
Doesn't make any sense!
 
Technically, a cake split into 8 pieces would be unstable; ever try holding a cut cake from the middle point? Needless to say, the cake would be all over the floor.

And I think you're looking to far into it; there are somethings that just werent meant to be questioned/understood (like worthless longbottom somehow surviving the entire series)
 
thinking about the book and thinking about snapes' worst memory from book 5 def made it a lot more clear
it was because of what he said to lily that he never forgot

ohh and she def left a lot questions unanswered that she said she would answer.
 
[quote name='Bezerker']Technically, a cake split into 8 pieces would be unstable; ever try holding a cut cake from the middle point? Needless to say, the cake would be all over the floor.
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smalien1, Bezerker has a point. A complete cake is much less likely to spread crumbs (assuming it is made well) vs a slice of cake. And, to keep with the cake analogies, if you were to cause a cake to explode in a room, peices would fly everywhere, how would you know you had all of it when you cleaned up? How would you know that there was not a part in the wall, in a hole, or underneath the floor boards?

I aside from that, I think the book was excellent, and ended the series nicely. Enough people's fates were left open that we can still imagine, but we came to closure with the main characters, and that was important.

Though part of me is said that Neville did not get the girl (though Luna is always a possibility?), since he is one of my favorites and is incredibly awesome in the book.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']ohh and she def left a lot questions unanswered that she said she would answer.[/QUOTE]Like? I think it did a good job in terms of closure (although I do want to know what those other 4 restrictions on/laws of transfiguration are...).
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Like? I think it did a good job in terms of closure (although I do want to know what those other 4 restrictions on/laws of transfiguration are...).[/QUOTE]

I agree, I thought it was excellent closure and a fantastic book.

I'd say it's probably my favorite in the series.

Also, in the 7th movie
The Battle of Hogwarts is going to be fucking AWESOME. Can't wait!

Anyone else been a little bummed out after finishing the novel because there won't be anymore books to follow?
 
[quote name='jimfoley16']
Also, in the 7th movie
The Battle of Hogwarts is going to be fucking AWESOME. Can't wait!

Anyone else been a little bummed out after finishing the novel because there won't be anymore books to follow?[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing about the movie as I was reading that scene. :D

And yes, I'm sad it's over, but I'm glad it was a clean closure to the series. It feels like a complete story. It's a strange mix of wanting more but at the same time glad it ended how it did.

I'm probably going to go back and read all 7 books in succession, because I've only read them as they were released, and maybe once after that, but too much time passed between reading each book. I think it will be fun to go through the entire series with no breaks, really get immersed in the world and maybe see things I didn't notice way back when...
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am going to have to disagree with that
even though he was a constant reminder of james, it was the eyes that shaped snape. Lily's eyes represented everything to snape, love, joy, sadness, regret, anger. Imagine seeing the eyes of the person you were responsible for killing that you loved every day. It prob was torture for Snape. I think he used James as excuse to express his own guilt. All of that makes me feel he is probably the most tragic figure in the series, especially cause Lily never knew
[/quote]


thats a good point i never thought about all that. but i do like
that fact that one of the most hated characters or a while now all of the sudden becomes a huge hero. i can imagine alot of the fanboys being upset over this but its a cool twist. which may explain why snape got so mad when harry read his mind in the 5th book. maybe he was worried harry might see some of his ad dumbledores plannings and meetings and it had litle or nothign to do with his private past.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Like? I think it did a good job in terms of closure (although I do want to know what those other 4 restrictions on/laws of transfiguration are...).[/QUOTE]


well going into the book she was supposed to answer a ton of questions


dudley's worst memory, someone using magic later in life, harry gets a new pet, supposed to see fawkes, what james and lily did, what was in the love room,

i am sure there are more, apparently she is doing a live chat to answer questions on the 30th, so many some of them will get answered http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=4
 
Overall I found it very dissapointing. I finished it last night. The
Battle of Hogwarts
was pretty badass, but alot of stuff just didnt fit for me. How
did snape put like 15 memories into one little blue floating memory thing?
I still dont get
how harry lived through Voldemorts spell
Also if
they tabooed the word Voldemort why didnt they taboo something like "come here Hermione", "where are you ron", or "I am Harry Potter", that would make sense if they were trying to find Harry.
And how did
Neville kill Nangini? He just got angry pulled out the sword and sliced his head off? I thought he was wrapped around Voldemort wouldnt voldemort just like smack Neville across the face if he tryed to get near him?

There are lots of these little things that got to me, plus I though
That the Harry Voldemort battle was a total letdown, the Mrs Weasly vs Bellatrix battle was better WTF????? That should not be
 
[quote name='chodax']Can't wait till it comes out, Post your thoughts about the upcoming book here!

* Burbage dies on pg. 12

* Hedwig dies on pg. 56

* Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78

* Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159

* Wormtail dies on pg. 471

* Dobby dies on pg. 476

* Snape dies on pg. 658

* Fred Weasley dies on pg. 637

* Harry gets ****ed up by Voldemort on pg. 704
o Comes back to life on pg. 724

* Tonks, Lupin, and Colin Creevy have their deaths confirmed on pg. 743

* Voldemort kills himself on pg. 743

19 years after the events in the book:

* Ron has married Hermione, their two children are named Rose and Hugo

* Harry has married Ginny, their three children are named Lily, James, and Albus Severus.

* Draco Malfoy has a son named Scorpius
[/quote]

I have never read the books... I read 10 pages on the first book. I cant read. :cry:
Holy fuck! Everyone fucking dies? Lol!
 
[quote name='nharmon91']Overall I found it very dissapointing. I finished it last night. The
Battle of Hogwarts
was pretty badass, but alot of stuff just didnt fit for me. How
did snape put like 15 memories into one little blue floating memory thing?
I still dont get
how harry lived through Voldemorts spell
Also if
they tabooed the word Voldemort why didnt they taboo something like "come here Hermione", "where are you ron", or "I am Harry Potter", that would make sense.
And how did
Neville kill Nangini? He just got angry pulled out the sword and sliced his head off? I thought he was wrapped around Voldemort wouldnt voldemort just like smack Neville across the face if he tryed to get near him?

There are lots of these little things that got to me, plus I though
That the Harry Voldemort battle was a total letdown, the Mrs Weasly vs Bellatrix battle was better WTF????? That should not be
[/quote]



Well as far as this is concerned.
I guess you can pull a thred of memory like Harry could pull out a thread of every time he cough the snitch and show it like a montage. You need to go back a read the Kings cross chapter Dumbledore explains why Harry is dead but not dead it was all about Hallows or Horcruxes. They Tabooed that would because only Order member's were brave enough to say it. Kind of, he needed a weapon and the hat gave him the Sward like it did Harry in Chamber of Secrets. I give you that the battle was kind of weak however I loved Harry taunting him and calling him Tom, Vouldy knew at that point Harry was not afraid of him


All in all I like it, I thought it ended well and as a whole the 7 books are fantastic. However
I felt the epilogue was too short I mean no need for a J.R.R LotR epilogue but I felt it could have been longer.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']well going into the book she was supposed to answer a ton of questions


dudley's worst memory, someone using magic later in life, harry gets a new pet, supposed to see fawkes, what james and lily did, what was in the love room,

i am sure there are more, apparently she is doing a live chat to answer questions on the 30th, so many some of them will get answered http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=4[/QUOTE]


All I could think of for that was Molly Weasley (even though she used some minor spells, this is the first time we got to see her true power).

When Dudley showed him respect early on I thought for sure we were gonna see him later cast magic. So glad it didn't happen.
 
I enjoyed this book a lot. There were some really profound musings on death and how the living consider it. I think Rowling did a fine job of tying up a very convoluted story. Snape was a great tragic character--I figured he did kind of die when Lily was killed, but that he carried on to fulfill a larger destiny seems to be the general archetype for most of the protagonist character motivations in the Potter series.
 
The asshats didn't get me. I stayed the fuck away from this site and everywhere else from last Thursday on. The tepid response here is no surprise. Best of the seven for me, no question. There's also no question that over time, more and more 'too cool for Hogwarts' types will feel the need to rationalize why it's the worst.

fucking over the story for anyone, especially children, is lower than Umbridge and Voldemort combined. fuck the Internet crowd, man. Actually, fuck about a third of humanity.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']The asshats didn't get me. I stayed the fuck away from this site and everywhere else from last Thursday on. The tepid response here is no surprise. Best of the seven for me, no question. There's also no question that over time, more and more 'too cool for Hogwarts' types will feel the need to rationalize why it's the worst.

fucking over the story for anyone, especially children, is lower than Umbridge and Voldemort combined. fuck the Internet crowd, man. Actually, fuck about a third of humanity.[/quote]


I agree with you people are just never happy, how ever its not my Favorite I still think that Half Blood Prince is my Fav. I still loved it I just could not put the book down next think I knew I was done and it was 3am Monday Morning. The only complainant I have is I want more.
 
[quote name='Kfoster1979']I agree with you people are just never happy, how ever its not my Favorite I still think that Half Blood Prince is my Fav. I still loved it I just could not put the book down next think I knew I was done and it was 3am Monday Morning. The only complainant I have is I want more.[/quote]
Books 3 and 6 are my faves.
 
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