The Official Harry Potter Discussion Thread!!!

The reason behind spoiling the Harry Potter books for others is just jealousy I think.

I never read them, but i'd love to. But I hate to read. (I get to sidetracked while reading). And I envy those that are able to read these books and love it so much. . .

That is why I say, snape kills dumbledore.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']The reason behind spoiling the Harry Potter books for others is just jealousy I think.

I never read them, but i'd love to. But I hate to read. (I get to sidetracked while reading). And I envy those that are able to read these books and love it so much. . .

That is why I say, snape kills dumbledore.[/quote]

that happened in book six btw lol. and if you dont want to read them why not get the books on cd. saw them on amazon today theyre not that cheap though but the guy who does the reading is pretty damn good at it. if you check amazon you can hear a clip of the first paragraph or 3 of the first chapter in book seven. and if you dont want to drop that much coin on books on cd check your local library they may already have them there for free.


but reading them is worth it and shouldnt take you too long. the first book is relatively small and its the 5th 6th and especially the 7th books that are the biggest. i dont read that often and i finished this last book in 2 days so i doubt itd take you that long to get into them and knock them out.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']The asshats didn't get me. I stayed the fuck away from this site and everywhere else from last Thursday on. The tepid response here is no surprise. Best of the seven for me, no question. There's also no question that over time, more and more 'too cool for Hogwarts' types will feel the need to rationalize why it's the worst.

fucking over the story for anyone, especially children, is lower than Umbridge and Voldemort combined. fuck the Internet crowd, man. Actually, fuck about a third of humanity.[/quote]

yeah it sucks people want to ruin the books for others but assholes are assholes. hell i caught something on the news where a couple of newspapers had posted reviews of the last book and jkr wasnt too happy but aside from adults who might run into it i doubt man kids will have it ruined for them that way.

its funny though that the books i thought were the best in the series turned out to get the worst response but hell this last book aside from the dull points was perfect. yeah she may not have awnsered all the questions but nothing is perfect. this is one of the fews things in life where im tempted to splurge and not only get all the books but also the books on cd. i havent been this into a book series since the choose your own adventure days.
 
[quote name='lokizz']that happened in book six btw lol. and if you dont want to read them why not get the books on cd. saw them on amazon today theyre not that cheap though but the guy who does the reading is pretty damn good at it. if you check amazon you can hear a clip of the first paragraph or 3 of the first chapter in book seven. and if you dont want to drop that much coin on books on cd check your local library they may already have them there for free.


but reading them is worth it and shouldnt take you too long. the first book is relatively small and its the 5th 6th and especially the 7th books that are the biggest. i dont read that often and i finished this last book in 2 days so i doubt itd take you that long to get into them and knock them out.[/quote]

Hmm, I will consider that. Thanks for the advice.
 
for the spoilers.. i'll give you a hint.. Romeo and Juliet.. you know the ending before the play begins ... yet it is widely considered one of the most classic and endearing love stories of all time..

I haven't read the books, although I would like to, I just wasn't interested when the books first came out.. and from the prisoner of Azkaban on they were my favorite movies (the first 2 didn't do much for me).. I think everyone kind of knew the ending up front.. I mean we all knew what it was going to come down to it was just how it all played out..

but i may read them back to back to back to back to back to back... or i may listen to the audiobooks
 
Best book hand down.
Badass battles, the story was great and neatly wrapped everything up, and the character development was too fucking gooood. I nearly cried when I read Snape's chapter. Cheesy ending but I didn't mind, since it wasn't exactly easily won.
 
[quote name='majorscud']
Get away from her you BITCH!
was fucking priceless[/quote]
I have to agree, that was, IMO, the best line in the whole book.
I'd been waiting for Mrs. Weasley to bust out a serious can of whoop ass for several books. A fitting end for the "bitch" Bellatrix

TBW
 
Yes,
Snape's entire revelation was very interesting, but I was surprised that Voldemort never figured out that Snape was in cohorts with Dumbledore.
 
[quote name='Moxio']Yes,
Snape's entire revelation was very interesting, but I was surprised that Voldemort never figured out that Snape was in cohorts with Dumbledore.
[/QUOTE]
He was an incredibly accomplished Occulumens (sp?) and he did go along with Death Eater activities before and after he turned (he didn't protest at the killing of Burbage in the beginning of the book, for instance). He only turned double agent when Voldemort set his sights on Lily.

Another part of this book that I loved was
the interaction between Ron and Hermione. While what happened between them in the 7th book has been foreshadowed in earlier books (I'm thinking #4, with Ron's jealousy towards Krum and #6 with Hermione's jealousy towards Lavender), it was great seeing them come together in this one.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
He was an incredibly accomplished Occulumens (sp?) and he did go along with Death Eater activities (he didn't protest at the killing of Burbage in the beginning of the book, for instance). He only turned double agent when Voldemort set his sights on Lily.

Another part of this book that I loved was
the interaction between Ron and Hermione. While what happened between them in the 7th book has been foreshadowed in earlier books (I'm thinking #4, with Ron's jealousy towards Krum and #6 with Hermione's jealousy towards Lavender), it was great seeing them come together in this one.
[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if I fully agree on the R+H ordeal... I thought it was kind of pushed. And when Ron left, which was a really big show of being a punk bitch, I dunno, I thought things would be a bit more sour.
 
[quote name='Moxio']
I'm not sure if I fully agree on the R+H ordeal... I thought it was kind of pushed. And when Ron left, which was a really big show of being a punk bitch, I dunno, I thought things would be a bit more sour.
[/QUOTE]
True, but he really regretted it immediately afterwards. One of my favorite scenes was when he came back and Hermione's reaction. It was funny/heartwarming/painful all at the same time. There was a lot of emotion in that scene. I loved it.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
True, but he really regretted it immediately afterwards. One of my favorite scenes was when he came back and Hermione's reaction. It was funny/heartwarming/painful all at the same time. There was a lot of emotion in that scene. I loved it.
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Even though he regretted it, the fact he left and left emo Hermione chasing him was pretty punk. I dunno, I'm kinda tired of Ron being such a baby... I got more than I wanted in the 4th book.
 
[quote name='Moxio']
Even though he regretted it, the fact he left and left emo Hermione chasing him was pretty punk. I dunno, I'm kinda tired of Ron being such a baby... I got more than I wanted in the 4th book.
[/QUOTE]


j.k is prob making up for the lack of ron speaking lines in the movie, since they apparently go to Neville or Hermoine on film




ohh and it wasnt his fault in the book
it was the one ring to rule them all, oops i mean the locket
 
A HP topic, how did I miss this?

Anyways, the book was very good. There are of course, a few things on my mind.
What ever happens to Harry? Obviously still famous, but what has he become? Minister of Magic would be the "prefect" ending, but somehow I couldnt see him in that position. Or maybe an Auror (sp?) as he wanted to be in book 5 I believe. And what of the others?

It feels like JK could make somewhat of mini adventure story series....thing. But I'm sure that she wants to put the story to rest. Wont stop the various fanfics, never read any though.

Also, how exactly do portraits work? Since Dumbledore's could tell Snape orders, and Hermione and Harry have talked to that old headmaster, Black,why didnt Harry ever decide to talk to Dumbledore's? It seems to me that portraits do have knoledge, but how much?

Also, I like to reread HP books, since I, as many, had rushed to finish the book. I go at a slower pace, maybe 2 weeks rather than 2 days, and I do pick up on things that I miss out on. I'm thinking of going through all 7 of them just because, but I dont have the time....

I cant wait to see how they'll do the movie though :D
 
[quote name='Link927']
It feels like JK could make somewhat of mini adventure story series....thing. But I'm sure that she wants to put the story to rest. Wont stop the various fanfics, never read any though.

Also, how exactly do portraits work? Since Dumbledore's could tell Snape orders, and Hermione and Harry have talked to that old headmaster, Black,why didnt Harry ever decide to talk to Dumbledore's? It seems to me that portraits do have knoledge, but how much?
[/QUOTE]I'm sure Rowling will write some short stories that take place in the HP universe, probably involving their kids, eventually. Not any time soon though.
As for the portraits,
they had no way of getting to Dumbledore's portrait because they didn't have one of his portraits (like they did with Nigellus) and they believe Snape was working for Voldemort.
 
[quote name='Link927']A HP topic, how did I miss this?

Anyways, the book was very good. There are of course, a few things on my mind.
What ever happens to Harry? Obviously still famous, but what has he become? Minister of Magic would be the "prefect" ending, but somehow I couldnt see him in that position. Or maybe an Auror (sp?) as he wanted to be in book 5 I believe. And what of the others?

It feels like JK could make somewhat of mini adventure story series....thing. But I'm sure that she wants to put the story to rest. Wont stop the various fanfics, never read any though.

Also, how exactly do portraits work? Since Dumbledore's could tell Snape orders, and Hermione and Harry have talked to that old headmaster, Black,why didnt Harry ever decide to talk to Dumbledore's? It seems to me that portraits do have knoledge, but how much?

Also, I like to reread HP books, since I, as many, had rushed to finish the book. I go at a slower pace, maybe 2 weeks rather than 2 days, and I do pick up on things that I miss out on. I'm thinking of going through all 7 of them just because, but I dont have the time....

I cant wait to see how they'll do the movie though :D[/QUOTE]

Harry's occupation is a good question. Could he be an auror if he skipped his seventh year? I mean isn't he essentially in the same boat as F+G, who ditched because they didn't really *need* an education? (They did well, becoming the richest in the family).

I guess Harry might have a Ministry position. Of course, with his connections and impressive "resume", regardless of his lack of education, he probably still could become an auror. With Kingsley as the minister, he's got some hookups. :p
 
[quote name='Moxio']
Harry's occupation is a good question. Could he be an auror if he skipped his seventh year? I mean isn't he essentially in the same boat as F+G, who ditched because they didn't really *need* an education? (They did well, becoming the richest in the family).

I guess Harry might have a Ministry position. Of course, with his connections and impressive "resume", regardless of his lack of education, he probably still could become an auror. With Kingsley as the minister, he's got some hookups. :p
[/QUOTE]



i think he prob wanted to take a break from hunting down dark wizards, made he did something in quiditch for a while.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
they had no way of getting to Dumbledore's portrait because they didn't have one of his portraits (like they did with Nigellus) and they believe Snape was working for Voldemort.
[/QUOTE]

Well, Im just saying, they could have got to another portrait, Dumbledore is a pretty respected wizard, there should be more than the one besides the Headmasters office, but I guess you could say they were stressed out and couldnt think straight.

Still, was it ever discussed how portraits work? Obviously they have and retain knoledge, but what else do they know? Hmmm....
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']i think he prob wanted to take a break from hunting down dark wizards, made he did something in quiditch for a while.[/QUOTE]

Oh forgot about that... that'd be pretty cool. Put that misinformed Krum in his place! ;P
 
[quote name='Link927']
Well, Im just saying, they could have got to another portrait, Dumbledore is a pretty respected wizard, there should be more than the one besides the Headmasters office, but I guess you could say they were stressed out and couldnt think straight.

Still, was it ever discussed how portraits work? Obviously they have and retain knoledge, but what else do they know? Hmmm....
[/QUOTE]

Well they said people can go through portraits throughout Hogwarts, so they should have been able to go to some inconspicuous part of Hogwarts and request him. Of course, that'd kind of stick a blade in the story if Dumbledore told them everything about the Horcruxes and all that jazz.
 
[quote name='Link927']
Well, Im just saying, they could have got to another portrait, Dumbledore is a pretty respected wizard, there should be more than the one besides the Headmasters office, but I guess you could say they were stressed out and couldnt think straight.

Still, was it ever discussed how portraits work? Obviously they have and retain knoledge, but what else do they know? Hmmm....
[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine that they'd be an imprint of the wizard of some sort.
As for multiple portraits, I'm sure there'd be at least a few, but it's not like they'd be all over the place, and anywhere where they would exist like the Ministry, Hogwarts, or some other important institution would have been under Death Eater control.
 
[quote name='Link927']
Well, Im just saying, they could have got to another portrait, Dumbledore is a pretty respected wizard, there should be more than the one besides the Headmasters office, but I guess you could say they were stressed out and couldnt think straight.

Still, was it ever discussed how portraits work? Obviously they have and retain knoledge, but what else do they know? Hmmm....
[/QUOTE]


i think all headmaster portraits have 2 portraits, one in the office and one someplace else. So maybe didnt know where the other portrait was, but prob a heavily guarded place in general like the ministry.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']
i think all headmaster portraits have 2 portraits, one in the office and one someplace else. So maybe didnt know where the other portrait was, but prob a heavily guarded place in general like the ministry.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. When Ron's dad was attacked in the OotP, Dumbledore specifically mentioned two portraits (Nigellus and someone who had a portrait at St. Mungo's) that "were important enough to have portraits in more than one place," making me think that multiple portraits is a rare thing.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']I don't think so. When Ron's dad was attacked in the OotP, Dumbledore specifically mentioned two portraits (Nigellus and someone who had a portrait at St. Mungo's) that "were important enough to have portraits in more than one place," making me think that multiple portraits is a rare thing.[/QUOTE]


no, i am pretty sure nigelus went to grim old to let sirius know, and someone else checked on arthur
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']no, i am pretty sure nigelus went to grim old to let sirius know, and someone else checked on arthur[/QUOTE]That's what I said...
What I'm saying is that I doubt too many portraits have multiple frames in various areas because of Dumbledore's statement. I'm arguing against your assertion that every Headmaster of Hogwarts has more than one portrait.
 
I thought it was a very good book overall. Very action packed and fast-paced, save for a few lulls. Trimming secondary story arcs helped make Goblet of Fire a 2 hour movies, and condensing scenes in Order of the Phoenix helped make it a two hour movie. I'm not sure what can be trimmed from this one to shorten it.
maybe all the fucking traveling and camping?

Now, two questions:
Thanks for explaining how Neville got the sword, whomever did that...

1) I'm not seeing the logic in how it makes logical sense for the Elder Wand to have "chosen" Malfoy, much less for Harry to have known that. The confusion of that left the final battle rather dry for me, truth be told. Is he a descendant of the bloodline that created the wand?

2) How did Snape know where to find Harry and the gang when he placed the sword under the lake and sent a patronus to Harry?

Let me also say that fewer "important" characters died than I thought, though there was a great deal of death overall. Some of her choices (Hedwig, Fred, Tonks, Lupin) were pretty insignificant, IMO, compared to, say, killing off Ron or Hermione. Not that I'm disappointed, frankly.

I admit to groaning a few times, as I felt the crushing weight of Rowling's liberal use of the deus ex machina; since she sprinkles so goddamned much of it in the series, and I like the series on the whole, however, I suppose I have to overlook it - what is magic if not a manner of writing yourself out of a tough spot?
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']That's what I said...
What I'm saying is that I doubt too many portraits have multiple frames in various areas because of Dumbledore's statement. I'm arguing against your assertion that every Headmaster of Hogwarts has more than one portrait.[/QUOTE]



well u never know where the portraits will be, they can be the ministry, st mungo, a family house, some place in hogsmead, destroyed etc.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Now, two questions:
Thanks for explaining how Neville got the sword, whomever did that...

1) I'm not seeing the logic in how it makes logical sense for the Elder Wand to have "chosen" Malfoy, much less for Harry to have known that. The confusion of that left the final battle rather dry for me, truth be told. Is he a descendant of the bloodline that created the wand?

2) How did Snape know where to find Harry and the gang when he placed the sword under the lake and sent a patronus to Harry?
[/QUOTE]
1) When you disarm someone of their wand, as Malfoy did to Dumbledore in the tower towards the end of Book 6, it seems you win the wand. Since no one had disarmed Malfoy since (we have to assume this), he remained the master of the Elder Wand until Harry Disarmed him. Harry is a descendant of the family of three brothers that created the Deathly Hallows, which explains how he got the Cloak through his father.

2) Phineaus Nigellus heard them say that they were in the Forest of Dean, and reported it to Snape. This was revealed when Harry walked through Snape's memories.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

Now, two questions:
Thanks for explaining how Neville got the sword, whomever did that...

1) I'm not seeing the logic in how it makes logical sense for the Elder Wand to have "chosen" Malfoy, much less for Harry to have known that. The confusion of that left the final battle rather dry for me, truth be told. Is he a descendant of the bloodline that created the wand?

2) How did Snape know where to find Harry and the gang when he placed the sword under the lake and sent a patronus to Harry?

Let me also say that fewer "important" characters died than I thought, though there was a great deal of death overall. Some of her choices (Hedwig, Fred, Tonks, Lupin) were pretty insignificant, IMO, compared to, say, killing off Ron or Hermione. Not that I'm disappointed, frankly.

I admit to groaning a few times, as I felt the crushing weight of Rowling's liberal use of the deus ex machina; since she sprinkles so goddamned much of it in the series, and I like the series on the whole, however, I suppose I have to overlook it - what is magic if not a manner of writing yourself out of a tough spot?[/QUOTE]


question one
draco disarmed albus, the wand was then his in theory, then since harry disarmed draco, all of draco's wands were now mastered by harry.
i am pretty sure of that

question two,
nigelus was able to hear where they were at and informed him of where to show



ohh and someone made a prettty decent faq of it on imdb here is the link http://imdb.com/title/tt0926084/board/flat/80500009?p=1
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']question two,
nigelus was able to hear where they were at and informed him of where to show
[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. What did
Nigelus hear, however?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Thanks for the info. What did
Nigelus hear, however?
[/QUOTE]



he heard i think hermoine say, they were in a specific forest, and albus told snape to make sure they earn the sword bravely. This is where nigelus called hermoine a mudblood to snape and he kinda flips out a lil
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Thanks for the info. What did
Nigelus hear, however?
[/QUOTE]

One of the two blabbed their location while Phinneas was in his portrait at their location. He quickly ran back and told Snape.
 
Now that I've had a few days for the book to soak in, reflecting back on different scenes in the book, I can't wait to read it again. I've already started back on Sorceror's Stone (which I haven't read in YEARS), and it's amazing all the little details I forgot about. I can't wait to read them all again, this time at a much slower pace so as to fully enjoy each one.
 
I didn't think there were that many slow moments in this book. It had action from the very beginning, unlike book 6 where there is almost no excitement until Harry takes the luck potion near the end.

What I really love about book 7 is the character development. There are so many great scenes with Harry and Ron, Harry and Hermione, Harry and Ginny/Mrs Weasly/Lupin... etc.

The ending felt a little fanficish. I understood what she was trying to show (that life goes on and even the big three will grow up and have kids who go to Hogwarts) but seemed I little bland.

I was also disappointed that Harry, Ron and Hermione missed out on their 7th year at Hogwarts, especially Hermione who would have been Head Girl. But the fact the the ending battle was held at Hogwarts and totally kicked ass makes up for that. And if I want to read the best at school book, I can go through book 5 again.
 
[quote name='SpreadTheWord']I didn't think there were that many slow moments in this book. It had action from the very beginning, unlike book 6 where there is almost no excitement until Harry takes the luck potion near the end.

What I really love about book 7 is the character development. There are so many great scenes with Harry and Ron, Harry and Hermione, Harry and Ginny/Mrs Weasly/Lupin... etc.

The ending felt a little fanficish. I understood what she was trying to show (that life goes on and even the big three will grow up and have kids who go to Hogwarts) but seemed I little bland.

I was also disappointed that Harry, Ron and Hermione missed out on their 7th year at Hogwarts, especially Hermione who would have been Head Girl. But the fact the the ending battle was held at Hogwarts and totally kicked ass makes up for that. And if I want to read the best at school book, I can go through book 5 again.[/quote]


How do you know they didn't go back after the downfall of Voldemort, and for that matter Harry didn't captain England to the next world cup. I think she left just enough open just in case she wants to go back to this world, I personally wanted more form the end but I still liked it a lot.
 
I would have liked to see them in school where a lot of great stuff has happened throughout the books. They may have gone back (although I don't think they would have had much time there after fixing the damage from the battle) but I don't get nearly as much enjoyment out of thinking it could happen then I do reading it happen anyway

I'll add spoiler tags to my posts but if you have not yet read this book and your going to a "Harry Potter Discussion Thread", then you deserve what you find. I stayed away from the internet as much as I could until I finished the book.
 
The ending blew. I really hope Rowling intended that
Harry, in his death, 'imagined' the ending in the book, and Neville fucked up killing the snake and got eaten, and then Voldemort rose to power and succeded in his genocide
That'd be a satisfying ending.
Also, I don't remember, was the word genocide ever used? If not, is that a nod to the governments refusal to call genocides genocides?
 
[quote name='smalien1']The ending blew. I really hope Rowling intended that
Harry, in his death, 'imagined' the ending in the book, and Neville fucked up killing the snake and got eaten, and then Voldemort rose to power and succeded in his genocide
That'd be a satisfying ending.
Also, I don't remember, was the word genocide ever used? If not, is that a nod to the governments refusal to call genocides genocides?[/QUOTE]

:roll:
 
I wasn't a huge fan of the epilogue - it felt unnecessary. That said, I can understand why she wrote it; as far as I can tell, it seems like a way of her saying "don't you dare touch my characters," though whether or not that actually comes to pass is anybody's guess. That said, the last two lines (you know,
that the scar hadn't hurt Harry for nineteen years
) are a definite step in that direction as they show that the
wizarding world is at peace
.

There were a few things I wasn't a huge fan of in the book. Rowling definitely got trigger happy, and most of the deaths (save for
Hedwig and Dobby
) didn't really affect me, possibly because they were all "off-screen" in the narrative. There was also a bit too much time spent
wandering in the forest
for my liking, but that's not a big deal.

The action set pieces worked exceptionally well - better than any other in the series, in my eyes - and the ending was satisfying, even if we all knew it was coming. My favorite book in the series is always going to be the first one, but this was a damn fine end to the series.
 
Good news shes going to write an encyclopedia


Stop your sobbing! More Potter to come
J.K. Rowling tells TODAY she will write an ‘encyclopedia’ on characters

In her only television interview after the highly anticipated release of the seventh and final installment in the Harry Potter series, author J.K. Rowling will sit down with NBC's Meredith Vieira in Edinburgh, Scotland, to discuss the conclusion of her series for the first time.


Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story.

For the millions in the midst of the seven stages of mourning for the end of the Harry Potter era, take heart.

In her first tell-all interview since the release of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” J.K. Rowling told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira she “probably will” publish a Potter encyclopedia, promising many more details about her beloved characters and the fate of the wizarding world beyond the few clues provided in the seventh book’s epilogue.

“I suppose I have [started] because the raw material is all in my notes,” Rowling said.

The encyclopedia would include back stories of characters she has already written but had to cut for the sake of narrative arc (“I've said before that Dean Thomas had a much more interesting history than ever appeared in the books”), as well as details about the characters who survive “Deathly Hallows,” characters who continue to live on in Rowling’s mind in a clearly defined magical world.

Hogwarts, for example, has a new headmaster (“McGonagall was really getting on a bit”), and Rowling said she can see Harry going back to give the “odd talk” on Defense Against the Dark Arts. That class, by the way, is now led by a permanent professor, since Voldemort’s death broke the jinx that didn’t allow a teacher to remain in the position for more than a year.

Rowling freely offered up these details to Vieira and the 14 fans who asked her questions at Edinburgh Castle in Scotland on Tuesday. In fact, now that she is now longer burdened with guarding the secrets of Book 7, Rowling seemed to delight in discussing her plot choices and clearing up the mysteries that have previously surrounded the books.

The character Rowling couldn’t bear to kill
One of the big stories that has been floating among fans for more than a year is that one character gets a reprieve from death, while two others Rowling didn’t intend to kill end up dying in “Deathly Hallows.”

“Mr. Weasley, he was the person who got a reprieve,” Rowling said. “When I sketched out the books, Mr. Weasley was due to die in Book 5.”

Instead, another father dies in the end of Book 7.

Though Rowling couldn’t bear to kill off Arthur Weasley, that didn't mean the other deaths in the book were easy to take. Given the bloodbath that is “Deathly Hallows,” the writing of it was bound to be an emotional roller coaster.

But nothing in the entire process of the series was more difficult than writing the scene when Harry, accompanied by his lost loved ones — including his parents, James and Lily, and his godfather, Sirius — walks into the forest with the intent of sacrificing his life in the name of defeating Voldemort, Rowling said, adding it is her favorite passage in all seven books.

“I didn't cry as I was writing [that chapter], but when I finished writing, I had an enormous explosion of emotion and I cried and cried and cried,” Rowling said.


“That was partly because of the content — and partly because it had been planned for so long and been roughed out for so long. And to write the definitive version felt like a — a huge climax.”

“The Deathly Hallows” is the climax to the last 17 years of Rowling’s life, a time when she has gone from a single, divorced mother living on public assistance to a happily married mother of three and one of the richest women in the world.

It’s now time to sit back for a bit and enjoy the life that Harry has given her, Rowling said. And, when she’s ready, there’s always that encyclopedia waiting in the wings.

“I’m not going to do it tomorrow because I’d really like a break,” Rowling said, laughing. “So you may be waiting.”
 
[quote name='smalien1']The ending blew. I really hope Rowling intended that
Harry, in his death, 'imagined' the ending in the book, and Neville fucked up killing the snake and got eaten, and then Voldemort rose to power and succeded in his genocide
That'd be a satisfying ending.
Also, I don't remember, was the word genocide ever used? If not, is that a nod to the governments refusal to call genocides genocides?[/quote]

wtf...
 
I would be interested in that. It'd be a great way to get more background on the characters, without actually writing new stories to revolve around them.
 
[quote name='moiety']I would be interested in that. It'd be a great way to get more background on the characters, without actually writing new stories to revolve around them.[/QUOTE]


yea i mean she prob wrote a ton of stories about the characters just having to cut them for various purposes.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']yea i mean she prob wrote a ton of stories about the characters just having to cut them for various purposes.[/quote]

yeah if you ever check out her website she mentions that some of the characters she couldnt get too into their backgrounds due to time constraints and it not being too important to the overal story. one character in particular dean
she mentioned that she had intended to mention or add to the series how his father was a wizzard but left before he was born so techinically he was part wizzard and not a mudblod but she couldnt find anywhere to add it in.
 
It seems odd that, with the primacy this series places upon death and its impact on the living, death in this last novel is treated almost flippantly. The only time someone's end really appears to impact Harry is in the case of Dobby, and even that seems a bit forced. Everyone else who bites it, save the villains, is firmly ensconced in the periphery of the narrative. I mean, Moody dies, people mope for a bit, mention is made of failing to find the body and then...nothing, except for an off-hand use of his eye as a plot device. Lupin and Tonks die, and then what? Harry almost seems to gloss over it, and no mention is made of the weighty responsibility such events place upon him -- his first thought after the battle, after all, concerns a sandwich and a warm bed.

Veering back on point. I'm willing to accept Harry's escape from death and the boatload of metaphysical sentiment that ensues since that generally fits with the mood of the series, but come on. Where is the meaning in all this sacrifice if the main half dozen or so children remain annoyingly invulnerable thanks in a large part to miracles of chance that strain the capacity of even the most fervent admirers to suspend disbelief?

In short, I feel that the inability of Rowling to kill off one of the plucky band of teenage heroes cheapens to some degree any moral that may have been reached regarding the nature of death, not to mention the meaning of sacrifice in the novels.

Fun read regardless, but...meh. It was the same problem I had with Lost for awhile -- everyone who bites it is fucking irrelevant in the long run.

Ed: Spelling.
 
Very, very, *very* well said Magus. I had the same feeling when reading the book, but you articulated it far better than I could have.
 
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