Once you have seen the older stuff, like TNG, DS9 (its very hard for most people to put TOS in its original context in the present day) you'll start to see why. Watch TNG episdoe "The drumhead" and it will relate to recent political events, DS9 episode "Duet". Both episodes hold single lines of dialog that are superior than the entire dialog in either movie.I like the two new star trek movies, they've gotten me interested in the older Trek stuff. Some of you guys need to chill though, sound like a bunch of grumpy old men.
While I agree the shows generally had a much deeper approach to storytelling than the current movies, I think people are forgetting just how downhill the "original universe" movies had gotten in terms of telling a thoughtful story. By the time Nemesis rolled around we had dune buggies running around planets... While there was an interesting subtext of that movie of what makes up a person, it was lost in the background noise of complete schlock. Insurrection? Gah Hell, even the darling of Star Trek movies, First Contact, isn't exactly a deep thinking movie but rather more or less a straight action romp.Once you have seen the older stuff, like TNG, DS9 (its very hard for most people to put TOS in its original context in the present day) you'll start to see why. Watch TNG episdoe "The drumhead" and it will relate to recent political events, DS9 episode "Duet". Both episodes hold single lines of dialog that are superior than the entire dialog in either movie.
The movies were made as usualy action romps with a moral. The TV show, the backbone of the franchise, was a moral story with usually some action. Which means Trek was always about the story and The Abrams movies don't hold much in the moral department, its mostly just action. That is what the angst is about. Most of us love it as a movie but not as Trek.
On Abrams defense, he supposedly planned to make the Movies as action romps, and the TV series would be based on moral issues. When the TV plans fell apart due to the corporate bickering, he sadly didn't change his plan. If you go but the supposed plans stated buy people from his own company,he then through with HALF the plan. Doesn't that sound like a recipe for failure?
Someone showed this to me a week ago. I thought it was spot on and funny as hell.With these two, you're getting a typical JJ Abrams movie with Star Trek trademarks when convenient, and he doesn't have anything else to show that he's capable of making something thought-provoking and deep. Star Wars is a ton more conducive to his style.
Still slogging my way through DS9 - I haven't watched the series since it originally aired. It is a really great show but some of the episodes are really boring. I'm in the middle of Season 3 so things are about to get good. Just finished watching the one where Kira and Odo crash on the planet and Kira gets engulfed in some sort of crystal. Good stuff.
That's DS9 for you. It has the most story out of any of the Treks but even then, that's not saying much. You're going to get an episode here and there that should have been cut down and made the B story of a larger episode.Still slogging my way through DS9 - I haven't watched the series since it originally aired. It is a really great show but some of the episodes are really boring. I'm in the middle of Season 3 so things are about to get good. Just finished watching the one where Kira and Odo crash on the planet and Kira gets engulfed in some sort of crystal. Good stuff.
I was just watching Into Darkness last night and I was thinking about how 1 movie every few years isn't enough. Of course, some of the actors in the movie seem like strictly movie only actors but oh well...This will jump start the thread:
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2013/10/trek-on-tv-again/
I've seen them through another forum and decided that it isn't worth the subscription to me. They look absolutely gorgeous of course.A month ago I saw some discontinued trek ships selling for stupid money and started researching the market for trek collectables, ships are where the value and market is. I havent bought anything trek that isnt a video or game since I was eight. I had no interest. Thats what led me to this.
Anyone seen this?
http://www.startrek-starships.com/usa/faqs.html#!prettyPhoto
I saw some detailed pics of the ones released in the UK and the ships look incredible. Look at the Aztec pattern.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/321217101289?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
They are releasing in the US in the next few weeks. If you bought all of them (70 planned already, they suggest more may be added) it would be at least $1400.
Some of the discontinued Hot Wheels ships that are smaller, and less have detail sell for 50-100+ on eBay.
I'm wondering how much the long term gifts will run. You will HAVE to subscribe for 18 months for one, which would be a $720 cost @ 2 ships a month at $20 each.
That's insane. But then again I could see it selling for $150 in the future.
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Sounds to me like an attempt to drum up interest, and possibly to get angry nerds to tell CBS how stupid they are.This will jump start the thread:
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2013/10/trek-on-tv-again/
The trek collective has a few reviews up with some nice pics. They do look awesome. Reminds me of Admirals desk in STiDI've seen them through another forum and decided that it isn't worth the subscription to me. They look absolutely gorgeous of course.
I think I am getting tired of Trekcores SD/HD videos of TNG HD.
Yes we get it , the colors are more vibrant than ever. However the focus should be more on the effects.
Well to be honest with you, I read somewhere that the Fanthom events are sent via satellite to the theaters so there is no reel.. From what I remember seeing I saw a windows desktop projected on to the screen. The picture quality was below standards for BOBW and there was some weird purple fringing around some of the characters. I checked and it looks like there will be do Reunification event this month either. I guess there isn't a demand to have TNG on the big screen. However I am glad I was able to go to 2 out of 3 events.Agreed! It was slightly disappointing during the events they had in theaters because some of it wasn't any different than the DVD box set I have.
Well to be honest with you, I read somewhere that the Fanthom events are sent via satellite to the theaters so there is no reel.. From what I remember seeing I saw a windows desktop projected on to the screen. The picture quality was below standards for BOBW and there was some weird purple fringing around some of the characters. I checked and it looks like there will be do Reunification event this month either. I guess there isn't a demand to have TNG on the big screen. However I am glad I was able to go to 2 out of 3 events.
My prob with the comics is they could easily put some of that missing info into the movies without alienating the NuTrekers.Anyone reading the Khan comics based on Into Darkness? I'm guessing that the answer to the different look is cosmetic surgery or something.
It's supposed to air sometime in 2014 and if it's popular enough, it'll get made into a series.Fifteen years after the destruction of the USS Equinox (approximate star date 2393) Captain Rudy Ransom, who was beamed from his doomed ship by the Krotownans, is held prisoner in the Delta quadrant for crimes against the race including trespassing in Krowtownan space and the deaths of Krowtown Crew members. Captain Ransom has very few choices but one chance to return to the Alpha Quadrant some 30.000 light years away.
Yeah, kinda misread it. It's something being produced that for TV(no mention of CBS, although wouldn't Paramount have to give it's approval for this to get made?).I don't believe it. Source? I found a board that says its a fan-made project, which I think is much more likely, but that's not proof for or against.
I find it extremely dubious that the next televised Trek will be some obscure Voyager spin-off.