[quote name='dohdough']If you can't define it, how can you understand it? You were accusing "liberal nazi's" of equating racial epithets to crime, so I'd say that in itself is a pretty good indicator of your lack of understanding.
Is this before or after you started throwing around terms like "violent liberal" and "liberal nazi's?"
The hole and flaw in your "thinking" is that you don't do much of it and you don't care to do research into your own opinions. Brief looks into history would tell you that your experiences are more than a little thin.
Wow...not even close. It has more to do with people feeling persecuted because being more inclusive somehow means that they're being discriminated against in the same way they were discriminating against those that are now being included.
Seems to me that you don't seem to know that much about the history of black people in the country either. I wonder why that is?
Facts, by themselves, aren't necessarily racist, but context and interpretation of facts are very important to determine whether it is. Being rude is one thing, implying criminality is another.
*Go do a quick chore and come back to read some pure craziness.
edit: I don't feel like dog-piling, so I'm going to give it a rest. I was considering going with the disparity route too, but I need to control the level of crazy I read right now.[/QUOTE]
This is a mess of a post to be honest but i'll try to reply to all just for the hell of it.
You get too hooked up on the word liberal. Violent liberalism, and liberal nazi's is simply a reflection of many liberals adopting a close minded view of racism in their new redefined version to fit agendas. I understand it perfectly, and i use fair reasonable to logic to attempt to restore balance to the racism interpretation. It's simple. No need for long winded he said she said, point scoring, side picking crap. Just keep it simple.
The rest of what you said there is untrue. You've got lost and confused to what i said, fair enough sometimes i am not clear.
My understanding is fine, i cannot define racism nobody can as it can be numerous things, but you can define what is not really racism, you can define people stuck up on the whole issue when usually they are backward and misinformed themselves. Which is mainly what i have done.
''The hole and flaw in your "thinking" is that you don't do much of it and you don't care to do research into your own opinions. Brief looks into history would tell you that your experiences are more than a little thin.''
This is untrue, my opinions are based on research so how can i research my opinions what the heck. Brief look at history? It's 2013 Get with it. Racism here and now is what we talking about. It's not what it was in 1950. My experiences are very prevalent and accurate and i suggest yours are outdated. If you happen to think otherwise i wonder why? How can what i have witnessed gradually happening in a variety of places and times be thin and false? Where do you base any of this on. I mean seriously? It's just bizarre to tell someone their experiences are thin?
Where and what is thin? What history tells you that what you see everyday is incorrect. Any example i gave is one i have seen a million times. I think you must accept that you are wrong here. Do you not think violent liberalism is dangerous? Do you think labelling people racist for frivolous reasons is ok? Do you think educating the youth in a brainwashed version that selective racism is how society should be, is not going to turn out ugly? I am very concerned that somebody with your intelligence would not question himself here.
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Wow...not even close. It has more to do with people feeling persecuted because being more inclusive somehow means that they're being discriminated against in the same way they were discriminating against those that are now being included. ''
Again that was your question that really was not too relevant or necessary. You created this argument for your self profiling needs im not sure why. But it really was pointless sorry to say.
''Seems to me that you don't seem to know that much about the history of black people in the country either. I wonder why that is?''
Seems to me you don't quite get that's not relevant? We are talking about 2013...do you understand. Black history month is divisive. You don't think so? That's up to you. But ive been among many black people during this month and it can be divisive and bring out some very ugly comments. History is history. To me it's simple black history, white history should just fall into history. If you want to study each seperatly on your own, fair enough. To be forced to label one and teach it like that i disagree with, but it's not that big a issue. But it's important not to ingrain a mindset among kids that hey, white people owe black people. Because that does happen, on both sides. Equality means exactly that.
And even passively introducing that mindset by proxy is potentially dangerous, hence why i personally don't like the idea of black history month.
''Facts, by themselves, aren't necessarily racist, but context and interpretation of facts are very important to determine whether it is. Being rude is one thing, implying criminality is another.''
necessarily? Weird choice of word. Context used yes sure, who decides what's the context? You leave a lot of open doors. I gave you clear examples, were they racist or not in your view, i gave you mine, Simply no.
It gets old it gets boring. People need to grow up. Liberals in particular can be very condescending and contradictory, as well as having selective racism viewpoints, not all but quite a large number. I don't really consider myself liberal or anti liberal but on this particular subject i do find liberals insufferable and very ignorant. I also believe among black people racism is usually dealt with better, in that it's more open. Often i am called white A B C any insulting word and what not, But it is all harmless. And nobody in the community takes a bit of notice. I am sure in a liberal white area i would get many dirty looks for saying the same the other way around.
To me that's not right. I think we have a whole generation and upcoming generation who are going to have twisted racial views due to the overusing and overhyping of what is, a generally irrelevant issue.
ing insipid that I don't even *know* where to start.
