These People: So Misunderstood, They Really Do Deserve Our Understanding

[quote name='Quackzilla']You called all Muslims "camel humping towel heads" and claim to be exposing the "truth" about Islam as a whole, and yet you are accusing someone else of making blanket statements?[/QUOTE]

Bigots just blindly throw around statements they feel should be right, they don't actually think about what they say.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I don't want them dead[/QUOTE]

Of all the non-truths you've said, this is the most obvious lie of the bunch.

myke.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Asshole works. You can call me asshole all day long. I really don't care.

You know what's so great about the dichotomy with the people you're defending while attacking me? I don't want them dead yet they want you dead.

You're going to be very, very hard pressed to find a militant sect of Judiasm that was waging terrorist warfare against Germans in the 1920's and 1930's. You're going to be harder pressed still to find a silent majority of Jews supporting such non-existent terrorism.

So basically you're saying; because I dislike a group of people that are tacitly approving of killing Americans and westerners by silence or active participation I am equal to a political party that scapegoated a religion for every social ill their nation experienced?

Go re-read your history before you make blanket statments that put your intellect in league with a jackass.

Have a nice one![/QUOTE]

What I am saying is that you are singling out the entirety of a particular ethnic group as worthy of nothing less than death, because of their intense hatred for the western world. Likewise, the National Socialist Party singled out an entire ethnic group for mass extermination, with no regard for anything that varies from your vast overgeneralization.

I'm not saying that the Jews put up a resistance; I'm simply saying that you are delineating an *entire* group of people as "evil." Can't you see any problems with such a simplistic outlook?

My comparison is nothing more than that; anything else, and you're putting words in my mouth.

What's most surprising is that, since you are so adamant about your belief system, that you aren't relishing in your racism. I'm astounded that you don't simply embrace yourself for what you really are.

myke.
 
Oh come on people! Can't you see that if every country/race/ethnicity/whatever were like the great, wonderful, lovable Americans then the world would be a great place? Oh, and all non-Christians are going to hell!!! Those pathetic people who are trying to hold onto their anti-American culture, religion, and government should all die! America is the best and everything America says must be obeyed!!!

Seriously though, aren't people used to "Iraq" in American foreign policy? America supported and sometimes even trained governments that massacred their people (example that comes to mind is Indonesia), we ignore wrongs that are going on in the world if helping to correct that wrong is not beneficial to us, etc... We're currently the world superpower and we're doing what past superpowers have done: exert our control over the world. One day, the US is going to lose this position and another will take its place...so if anyone is pissed that America is abusing its power, take comfort in the fact that it will eventually end.
 
You're going to be very, very hard pressed to find a militant sect of Judiasm that was waging terrorist warfare against Germans in the 1920's and 1930's. You're going to be harder pressed still to find a silent majority of Jews supporting such non-existent terrorism.
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Actually, arafat (often incorrectly called the father of modern terrorism) took many of his tactics from jewish terrorists, who succesfully used terrorism to fight for a jewish state, the most famous incident being the bombing of the king david hotel.

Though there was underground jewish resistance, in germany even, to the nazis. I don't believe there was a jewish group, but jews in the resistance instead. Taking into account how resistance to the nazis is viewed ang treated, you'd likely be hard pressed to find any use of the term "terrorism" applied to any resistance group, though I would be suprised if terrorist tactics were not used, unfortunately I don't know enough about the resistance movements to say for sure.

[qupte]So basically you're saying; because I dislike a group of people that are tacitly approving of killing Americans and westerners by silence or active participation I am equal to a political party that scapegoated a religion for every social ill their nation experienced? [/QUOTE]

Wait, so now they're all bad again?

"Kill them all, god will know his own", wouldn't be suprised if that would be pad's response if someone suggested nuking Iraq, palestine etc.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']No, the statement is "Kill them all, let God sort 'em out.".[/QUOTE]

No, know your quotes. I was quoting a papal advisor during the crusades, he was asked about what to do when a majority catholic town (over 95%) refused to hand over heretics (cathars). They ended up killing all 20,000 residents, with only about 200 cathars.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']jewish terrorists, who succesfully used terrorism to fight for a jewish state, the most famous incident being the bombing of the king david hotel.
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Haganah? Later to become the Israel Defense Forces?

To be fair, they were targetting the British military.
 
[quote name='Rich']Haganah? Later to become the Israel Defense Forces?

To be fair, they were targetting the British military.[/QUOTE]

to be fair, they killed british, jews and muslims.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']to be fair, they killed british, jews and muslims.[/QUOTE]

And targetted, and kill mostly, the British military.

I'm in no way supporting them, but I just wanted to clarify they weren't intentionally and deliberately attacking innocents.
 
[quote name='Rich']And targetted, and kill mostly, the British military.

I'm in no way supporting them, but I just wanted to clarify they weren't intentionally and deliberately attacking innocents.[/QUOTE]

When many modern terrorist groups target embassies, police, army (u.s./israeli soldiers) etc. but kill others they get blamed fully for it. It's good to use to distinguish how bad they are, but if we're gonna lump em all together, we might as well lump them in to.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']When many modern terrorist groups target embassies, police, army (u.s./israeli soldiers) etc. but kill others they get blamed fully for it. It's good to use to distinguish how bad they are, but if we're gonna lump em all together, we might as well lump them in to.[/QUOTE]

I don't feel the same grief I do for US military that are subjected to acts of terrorism as I do for those of 9/11.
 
[quote name='Rich']I don't feel the same grief I do for US military that are subjected to acts of terrorism as I do for those of 9/11.[/QUOTE]

The U.S. military isn't subjected to acts of terrorism. They are a uniformed military force and attacks against them can be fairly described as military, insurgent or resistance attacks. Terrorism targets civilians, not military. This is not to say that car bomb attacks against military targets are something to ignore, just that they aren't terrorist attacks.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']The U.S. military isn't subjected to acts of terrorism. They are a uniformed military force and attacks against them can be fairly described as military, insurgent or resistance attacks. Terrorism targets civilians, not military. This is not to say that car bomb attacks against military targets are something to ignore, just that they aren't terrorist attacks.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much my point.
 
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