This is absolutely disgusting...

[quote name='alonzomourning23']I just watched that interview and he did not. He compared the conditions inside the dome to a slave ship, hard to argue with and hard to argue that everything possible was done to get them food and water. His argument was that america has an extremely high thresshold for black pain, we tolerate it much easier than if it had happened to whites. Again, suggesting that white people subconsciously are as concerned about blacks suffering as seeing their own suffering (whites) would be a bit naive. It often doesn't hit as close to home when the people don't look like you, or you have another reason (poor and lazy) that separates them from you.[/QUOTE]

He was interviewed on a radio show around 1200PM......dont know which one......where his comments were not as refined....and there was more hostility towards the Feds in those comments......I guess my whole point is why must our own politicians throw the race battle into this.....all it does is make America look like a joke and show how 80% of these elected officials put their own agenda ahead of the greater good.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I would have found a way out of the city after the hurrcane passed once I looked outside and saw what the city looked like knowing that it would probably be days before any help came.

And if the roads and path out of town were impassible, I would have found a way to pass them......
 
[quote name='lowgear26']He was interviewed on a radio show around 1200PM......dont know which one......where his comments were not as refined....and there was more hostility towards the Feds in those comments......I guess my whole point is why must our own politicians throw the race battle into this.....all it does is make America look like a joke and show how 80% of these elected officials put their own agenda ahead of the greater good.[/QUOTE]

Oh, didn't realize that. I saw him on cnn, not sure if it was a cnn interview or one cnn was airing though.
 
[quote name='bostonfrontier']I don't know about you guys, but I would have found a way out of the city after the hurrcane passed once I looked outside and saw what the city looked like knowing that it would probably be days before any help came.

And if the roads and path out of town were impassible, I would have found a way to pass them......[/QUOTE]

Why would you assume it would be days before help came? That's why they're getting so much blame, things weren't moving as fast as they should have, even bush said that. And how the hell are you going to get out of a flooded city with no boat or any other mode of private or public transportation? Seriously the argument "I would have found a way out" probably wouldn't be what you were saying if you were actually there. Even today, there was a nearby town (something Parish I believe) that went into new orleans because they were out of everything and that's where there only shot of escaping was.
 
[quote name='bostonfrontier']I don't know about you guys, but I would have found a way out of the city after the hurrcane passed once I looked outside and saw what the city looked like knowing that it would probably be days before any help came.

And if the roads and path out of town were impassible, I would have found a way to pass them......[/QUOTE]


so the roads would be passible then?
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Oh, didn't realize that. I saw him on cnn, not sure if it was a cnn interview or one cnn was airing though.[/QUOTE]

Jesse just basically said George Bush doesnt care about black people......My question is how Does Jesse Jackson help anyone with comments like that? This was on Larry King Live
 
What the hell was the point with this?

About people boarding a bus at the dome:

At the back end of the line, people jammed against police barricades in the rain. Refugees passed out and had to be lifted hand-over-hand overhead to medics. Pets were not allowed on the bus, and when a police officer confiscated a little boy's dog, the child cried until he vomited. "Snowball, Snowball," he cried.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_re_us/katrina_superdome_evacuation_hk1

I mean seriously, I'm assuming it's a small dog (especially with the name snowball). If the dog isn't taking up any space someone else would use, why the hell would you make it even worse on a family and a kid that's been through so much, let alone leaving the dog for dead. The dog had gone this long so it wasn't like it couldn't handle crowds and was attacking people. I don't see the issue with bending the rules in cases like this.

Jesse just basically said George Bush doesnt care about black people......My question is how Does Jesse Jackson help anyone with comments like that? This was on Larry King Live
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I've seen him twice on cnn, I've had no real issue with what he's said. All I'm going to comment on is what I've seen or read transcripts of, and I've had no issue with that.
 
I was in New Orleans on August 26th and 27th. Here is how I remember how it was in New Orleans. On the 26th, I think a lot of people in NO wasn't really sure where the hurricane was going since all it did was kept goin west, even the weatherman on the local news channel wasn't even that sure. Everybody kept praying that maybe it could turn the other way around or somewhere.


When I woke up on saturday morning, I turned on the tv and we was still gettin the same results that it was goin west. All the gas stations was packed like usual. When the officials held their press conferences, it wasn't like they said hey its a mandatory evacuation and everybody get the fuck out. It was more like "hey theres a good chance that it might hit us but maybe not we're not sure but u can evacuate if u want to just in case". The rest of the press conferences was about givin instructions how to evacuate, giving shelter information, and they gonna activate contraflow at 4pm. Only 2 or 3 parishes had mandatory evacuations at that time but not NO yet. I don't remember hearing mandatory evacuation for jefferson parish until I was in Lafayette. I remember hearing from a local reporter that a lot of people didn't really evacuate till the hurricane changed directions.


Getting out of NO wasn't that big of a problem for us since the officials activated the contraflow which worked smoothly when we was on the road. Before evacuating NO, the mood was kinda depressing because it felt like we was bidding our goodbyes to our each other. I evacuated to Lafayette with some relatives. When I was in Lafayette, the hurricane finally started changing directions. I slept through most of Sunday so I don't know what was goin on that day, just that it became a catergory 5 hurricane. Monday, it was a real dark and windy day in Lafayette. After I figure the hurricane was over with. I went to my parents home which is about 80 miles away from Lafayette and 75 miles from New Orleans. I didn't really find out what happen to NO till wednesday when the tv cable started working. All of the local cable channels is out except for one local channel. Its real depressing seeing New Orleans in this shape. Never I could imagine this to happen even though we was taught in school that something like this is going to happen one day. I don't know about the rest of Metairie but all I know is the section I live in is not flooded. I didn't care much about losing my apartment since I just moved in a week before the hurricane hit us. I didn't have much in the apartment to begin with.


If you've been watching the news a lot lately, whenever u see them showing "I-10 and Causeway". You should recognize it easily because they're always showing the exit sign "Causeway BLVD North and Mandeville". My apartment is couple of blocks down on Causeway. Causeway is also the same bridge where hundreds of refugees is camping under away from the hot sun. It seems as if its the one of the place the rescue crew drop some of the refugees that they've rescued off at. Besides the convention center, the causeway has been gettin a lot of air time lately. Mostly because not much of them has been evacuated from that site. I only seen a couple of elderly people gettin evacuate from that site. Unless they took a shortcut from I-10, theres a possibily that the buses from Houston have passed by them everyday because you have to be on I-10 to get to the superdome.


On another topic, there is no communications at all in NO. Don't even bother calling anybody with a 504 number because 95% of the time you wont get through. The only affective way you'll contact somebody is by through text messaging. Everybody that I know of is fine and well. Some of the people I know is not even coming back to New Orleans since they lost everything. Well this is where i'm goin to end it for now. If anybody wants to donate then please give cash to the American Red Cross.
 
I think when this is all over we will find out that ultimately it was the state's responsibilty to act more agressively toward evacuation. They just did not do enough in time with the information they had to alert the general populace to the real threat. If this had been a nuclear notification of a bomb being dropped, I guarantee they would have gone the extra mile to make sure the town was empty.
After the disaster, it was partly the state and some federal agencies' failure to get organized fast enough to provide relief. This has nothing to do with the president. He can only sign so many papers that release funds and orders to set things in motion. He can't snap his fingers and it becomes magically done. (Although I know how everyone likes to use any excuse to bash him)
The responsibility lies with certain individuals who are in charge of organizing relief efforts.

A relief effort of this size has protocolls and channels it has to follow and something this size has certainly strained the system so much that it slowed it down.
That is why is seems the tsumani was handled better, I seriously doubt they had to use the same ICS system that we do in order to sort things out. For the tsumani, people just used their own initiative to do what they could and it looks like it worked a bit better then our system.
I understand everyone wants someone to blame, but race and income have little to do with it. Its all about logistics and safety. I guarantee that the violence towards rescuers was a major factor in slowing down the relief/rescue effort.
With all the police quitting and noone to secure the safety of rescuers, they have no choice but to stop helping people. It sucks but they dont have to look any further then themselves for the slow response and ill preparation.

If anyone is interested in how state/federal emergency programs are structured and how they function, I suggest you check out the Federal Incident Command System (also known as Incident Management System). This is what the state has to follow and use in order to organize everyone and everything.

I've taken a few courses on it and its an incredible system when it has competant people who know what the hell they are doing in charge of it. You have seen what happens when it does not. Those are the people who are partly to blame.
 
I think people like Jesse Jackson need to shut their trap til everyone is out and safe and then we can bring up the issue of race........ STFU til everyone is safe first cause complaining right now when the problem is still going on isn't helping anything
 
[quote name='bostonfrontier']I think people like Jesse Jackson need to shut their trap til everyone is out and safe and then we can bring up the issue of race........ STFU til everyone is safe first cause complaining right now when the problem is still going on isn't helping anything[/QUOTE]

Kanyee West too....he was on MSNBC and him and Mike Myers were doing a scripted thing asking for help....at the End West goes "George Bush hates black people".....I keep saying it but why is this a white vs black thing....it was a friggin hurricane for gods sake....not White people that are killing blacks in New Orleans.
 
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