Trade Gone Wrong (A Story of a unfinished trade)

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Alright before I start I will agree that it is my decision to this trade and I learned a lesson, BUT I just wanted others to be aware of the risks.

So back in February I saw a gentlemen who posted on the thread named RatedR Real name Eric Brumfield e-mail [email protected] asking for a loan for $450 because a Vita bundle from Playasia was canceled and he was waiting his refund. Now I am not wealthy by any means but I do have enough to help others when needed.
The deal was I loaned him $450 and he would use that money to buy a Vita, then when he got his refund from Play-asia he would pay me back $500 and send me his Nintendo 3DS since he was replacing it with the Vita. I agreed since he said he would only be 2-3 weeks before he received his refund, but not without having a conversation with him and having him send proof of the transaction. Ironically my name is Eric too, below is the initial conversation I had over MSN


Eric K says
ohh, what did you submit a refund for?
Eric Brumfield says
A vita system I ordered but were out of stock
I cancelled the order
and they said the would refund soon
Eric K says
would you mind sending me that e-mail?
Eric Brumfield says
From play asia?
Sure.
Eric K says
yeah confirming they are processing your refund
Eric Brumfield says
Oh.
I just have the email where the asked if they wanted me to continue order or cancel it. THen I can screen shot my play asia account where the order is cancelled. They should be refunding soon
They were on chinese new year when I ordered lol
and then when they came back I found better deals so I asked to cancel, and now the order is cancelled
but they aren't in on the weekend
Also in the email they said "One I close the dispute I opened against they will cancel my order and refund my money"
so Now i'm just waiting on the refund

E-mail Below

Dear Eric,

First of all, we apologized for the late response. We just resume on work
today after our holiday due to the celebration of Chinese New Year. Our
office were closed from January 21-25.

In regards with your order #24667786, we can only process orders today. Do
you want us to proceed with your order or do you still prefer to cancel
this?

We also noticed that you had opened a dispute to PayPal. May we know your
reason for this? We would kindly suggest you to close this case. And we
will cancel your order and refund your money back to your account once the
dispute is already gone. Please kindly confirm.

We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards,

Ann
Play-Asia.com

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Original Message from 2012-01-23 23:42:00 HKT
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Hello I ordered a playstation VITA and memory card from your website. I was
wondering will it be shipped with in the next two days? If not I would like
to cancel my order, because I need the playstation vita ASAP! Thank you! My
order number is #24667786


Eric K says
yea if you can send screen shot and the e-mail i will defintely help you out
Eric Brumfield says
forward to your hotmail email?
Eric K says
yes please
Eric Brumfield says
fwd'd email
Eric K says
thanks, did you write back with them closing the dispute?
Eric Brumfield says
Yes
I have the screen
shot
of the cancelled order
Eric K says
and the paypal dispute?

playasia.png


Eric Brumfield says
It's under my moms paypal because I have a student paypal account
Do you see the screen shot?


Eric K says
yes
Eric Brumfield says
I really appreciate you taking the time to consider helping me
Eric K says
did play asia ever get back to you
Eric Brumfield says
UNfortunately not, because the week end came
They said they will resume services on monday
But they cancelled the order.
Eric K says
but what was the probelm with your paypal account they spoke of?
Eric Brumfield says
I opened a dispute because I thought they were scammers
I got nervous my first time ordering from them
But I closed the dispute
then they cancelled the order
and now my refund should be coming
Just a matter of time
Eric K says
you must really want that vita
Eric Brumfield says
Yes I do haha
Eric K says
how much are those things?
Eric Brumfield says
The one i'm buying is 450 with a game and memory card
and is region free
Eric K says
where is that at?
Eric Brumfield says
It's on ebay but i'm buying through paypal
He's selling for 450 since i'm a fellow CAG
and has 70 feedback 100% on ebay
Would you like to see the listing i'm interested in buying?
Eric K says
yes please
Eric Brumfield says
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-PlaySt...WDVW&rd=1&ih=016&category=139971&cmd=ViewItem
Eric K says
the 3ds comes with a charger right?
Eric Brumfield says
Yes
and an r4
I will ship most likely tuesday, since i'm expecting to recieve some stuff monday
if not tuesday then monday
What are you thinking?
Eric K says
i am thinking i will help you out
Eric Brumfield says
Yes! THank you so much!
Eric K says
just to clarify you want $450 and once you get that you will send out the 3ds and once your efund comes through you will send $500 via paypal?
Eric Brumfield says
Yes.
Eric K says
how are you getting that extra $50?
Eric Brumfield says
My mom lol
and it's okay 30
only*
Eric K says
ans your mom is okay with you sending your 3ds?
Eric Brumfield says
Yes.
She just hates having to take me to ship it but she's find with me trading lol
I'm about to be 18 in march she really doesn't care lol
Eric K says
and you estimate 2-3 weeks for your refund?
Eric Brumfield says
Yep.
Shouldn't be that long
Eric K says
what if they dont give you the refund?
Eric Brumfield says
Why wouldn't they
Eric K says
My only concern is your order is from 21Jan12 and you posted on CAG asking for the money on 2Jan12, also I dont know if they funds were actually dedected from your paypal account. If you had insuffient funds they could have canceled your order
Eric Brumfield says
I edited my post
That was my old trade list
I just edited the post today
you may check that on the post
and
I can show you my paypal where they took the money



Eric Brumfield says
see it?
Eric K says
yes

paypal.png


Eric K says
got it
alright, please keep in touch after i send this money and do you have a cell phone number?
Eric Brumfield says
I dont have a cell but I can give you my moms cell
I"m always on MSN
so just come on here if you need me
Eric K says
just a contact phone number
Eric Brumfield says
1-312-301-9081
Eric K says
and again keep in touch, its not often i lend out 450 dollars to a guy i never met
Eric Brumfield says
Just texting please
Eric K says
i dont have texting
Eric Brumfield says
I will keep in touch, and I really appreciate this.
Oh
Well don't call alot lol
Eric K says
i wont call unless you stop keeping in touch
Eric Brumfield says
Okay thank you because that's my moms phone and I dont want her to get annoyed
Eric K says
please send a tracking # when you send out the package
Eric Brumfield says
Alright of course
Eric K says
If i have to call you I will let you know on here first
the DS is in good condition and not broken right?
Eric Brumfield says
It works perfect, and nothing is wrong with it
Eric K says
If i have to call you I will let you know on here first
the DS is in good condition and not broken right?
Eric Brumfield says
It works perfect, and nothing is wrong with it
Eric K says
email for paypal?
Eric Brumfield says
[email protected]
Eric Brumfield says
Alright thank you.
I truly appreciate it.
Eric K says
did you get it?
Eric Brumfield says
Checking now
Yes I recieved it
thank you soooo much!

payment.jpg


Eric K says
Your welcome, remember to keep in touch and leave feedback,
I am signing off now talk to you later
Eric Brumfield says
Alright bye! Thanks again! Remember to come on here to speak with me!

The good news is I did receive the 3DS (It smelled like an ash tray but it was not broken) and he did pay me back $400 in February. He said he didn't have the rest of the money at that time but would pay me pack a few weeks later. Needless to say its been a few months and he has stopped communications. I know he gets the messages since he changes his MSN profile picture every other day.
So that's it as of now hes Under Investigation on CAG but I don't know if they got a hold of him. I said him e-mails every other day but of course no reply. There is his Mothers cell phone 312-301-9081 but she wont put him on the phone. So I know this could have gone a lot worse, luckily it didn't. I would still just like a simple reply from the guy. If anyone on CAG wants to try to get in touch with him, maybe he would answer your e-mail's but he's definitely not answering mine...
 
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Well that truly sucks and that guy is a total P.O.S. You sir have a very kind heart for giving that much money to a complete stranger and actually trusting him and it's very wrong how he did you. At least you got the 3ds and 400 dollars back, it could have gone a lot worse.

I'll try calling the bastard today or tomorrow.. give him a peace of my mind.
 
from my understanding with online shopping is that they never take your money from your bank until they have shipped your item out from there factory .

and yes op is a very cool person i have made a deal or 2 with him
 
[quote name='sir-fly']from my understanding with online shopping is that they never take your money from your bank until they have shipped your item out from there factory .

and yes op is a very cool person i have made a deal or 2 with him[/QUOTE]

I recall the original trade forum post and (IIRC) the guy paid by PayPal, which is taken immediately out of the account.
 
I remember seeing his original post, and laughing at the mere suggestion...
Sad to see someone actually get taken by him.
 
That sucks man, at least you really aren't out any if you consider the ds worth 50 bucks. Still sucks though

I recently had someone help me out on dvdtalk. I posted questions about payment plans on income taxes since I owed this year and didn't quite have enough to pay by the 15th. Someone on dvdtalk who doesn't even know me in real life paypal'd me 200 bucks to help me out. I thought it was an awesome gesture on his part.

I had it paid back in 2 weeks and gave him some extra to thank him, even though he didn't even ask for it.

I hope you don't let this spoil you on helping people.
 
[quote name='dmdragon']That sucks man, at least you really aren't out any if you consider the ds worth 50 bucks. Still sucks though

I recently had someone help me out on dvdtalk. I posted questions about payment plans on income taxes since I owed this year and didn't quite have enough to pay by the 15th. Someone on dvdtalk who doesn't even know me in real life paypal'd me 200 bucks to help me out. I thought it was an awesome gesture on his part.

I had it paid back in 2 weeks and gave him some extra to thank him, even though he didn't even ask for it.

I hope you don't let this spoil you on helping people.[/QUOTE]


I agree, my wife enjoys the 3DS so I am grateful that I got the $400 back. I am just upset at the fact the guy is ignoring my attempts to talk to him (I did give him almost 4 extra months to hold up his end of the deal that he agreed to)

And the funny thing is I probably would help someone out if they asked, but maybe not a 17 year old next time...
 
Good man. Life has a funny way of working these things out, though it may take a while sometimes. I wish you the best, bud!
 
[quote name='Dark Lord Greg']have you told his mom the situation? I wonder if bombarding that cell with calls and texts would get him to finish the trade :rofl:[/QUOTE]

I will send a couple messages today, but I haven't heard anything back, if anyone wants to contribute it would be appreciated ;)
 
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