ugh, bank card fraud, any advice?

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Ugh, I just stopped at the ATM before work tonight, and discovered that my checking account had a negative balance. After logging into my account using my phone, I found that several large charges have posted on my accout to companies ive never heard of like jobtarget, confinet LTD, and kosmaz technologies amongst others. They fucking drained my account, about 2100 dollars. I immediately called my bank to dispute the charges, but they said that since they are only pending, they can't be reversed until they have cleared. In the mean time, they're sending me a new card and blocked my account. Has anyone else had experimce with this shit in the past? Do I stand a good chance of getting my money back ASAP? Any advice would be great. If it matters, I use Bank Of America. Thanks
 
You'll get everything back. My account with WaMu got hit twice, too everything- I filed a dispute, got everything back almost immediately. It's really frustrating but know that you didn't authorize the charges so you're not liable for the,
 
That really sucks, I never had that happen though I did block a company from making unauthorized payments in the future with no problems.

You should get your money back, but it may take a week to month since they need to investigate the situation. Once you do get it back you might want to consider transferring all your money to a new account and closing your current one. Its possible that person might have either your card # or account # (maybe from a check). Or just ask BoA how the payment was made.
 
Good thing you spotted them... and closed your account. You should be safe now, until the next time someone steals your information!
 
[quote name='djkunai']You'll get everything back. My account with WaMu got hit twice, too everything- I filed a dispute, got everything back almost immediately. It's really frustrating but know that you didn't authorize the charges so you're not liable for the,[/quote]

Funny you should mention that. Our business account got hit and it is through WaMu. They basically said they couldn't help us because it wasn't reported in time (within 24 hours). So we had to fight to get them to cover it because someone was authorizing the wrong people (scammers) to use our account.
 
[quote name='Hybrid5006']Good thing you spotted them... and closed your account. You should be safe now, until the next time someone steals your information![/quote]

Teaching point here is, stop giving your info to those porn sites. :)
 
I've had one of my credit cards hit but not my bank account (knocks on wood).


My credit card was hit several years while I was still using AOL. The funny part was they didn't make any purchases. They logged into my account, changed my address, and tried to send themselves a card linked to my account. I guess the address change didn't take before the card was issued (or maybe that's a fail safe built into the system) because it ended up coming to me. At first I thought my card was expiring and it was the replacement. When I looked closer I saw that it had someone else's name on it. I checked my account and found out it had been changed to somewhere in Canada!

I immediately changed all my on-line account info, called the company, closed the account, and they re-issued another card.
 
I had my discover card hit this year... some bogus charge of almost 700 on paypal.. since Im pretty up to date on all the goings on with my cards, I caught it immediately... got my money back and changed the card number
 
Recently had my check card have 4 charges of $25.00 each for Yahoo! Voice randomly. I have Wachovia and the transactions were still pending. I called them up, told them I did not authorize them nor do I have anything at all with Yahoo, they canceled the transactions and had a new card with new numbers issued and mailed overnight.

Personally, it could of been from buying something online. Some sites just aren't secure enough.
 
[quote name='mike.m']Teaching point here is, stop giving your info to those porn sites. :)[/quote]

I don't know why people give the porn sites such a bad rap, most of the popular ones have more security on their sites than most of the major retailer sites.

Anyways, thanks for the help so far guys, the transactions are still listed as "pending" right now, and if they remain so in the morning, I'll call the bank again and bitch them out. I'll keep you updated.
 
never use an atm/check card for online purchases. you're potentially giving people access to your life savings. use credit cards. there's so much more fraud protection

for every purchase online i use citibank's mastercard virtual credit card service. it's the safest way to ensure that nobody could ever use your credit card information. it generates a new one-time use credit card number for each online purchase. once you use the number, you can have it immediately expire. even if somebody were to steal that number, it'd be completely useless to them.

if you don't want the number to immediately expire, you can choose to create virtual account numbers with a specific dollar limit or specific expiration date.
 
[quote name='spmahn']I don't know why people give the porn sites such a bad rap, most of the popular ones have more security on their sites than most of the major retailer sites.
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Its the truth too. I trust some porn sites more than I trust certain legit sites.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']One reason why i only use credit cards. I dont want someone being able to dip their hands directly into my checking account[/QUOTE]

Same. Looks like your bank will take care of you but take this as a push towards using credit cards over a check card. You also have very strong theft protection under federal law for credit cards which I think does not apply to check cards - although most banks probably grant the same coverage.

The domino problem here is if you had checks out to cover your rent, power, phone, etc and now they all bounce because some fucking thief drained your account. The bank may waive overdraft fees but you'll have bounced check fees and late penalties with all of those other places to sort out. Major headache.
 
Yeah I would change the passwords on any accounts that have your bank card info on them - amazon etc. Also, start using a credit card for online purchases - that way they can't get directly at your account.
 
Man, that sucks OP.

We had some piece of shit charge our bank account for a laptop via a fake debit card, or just by having the card numbers and our pin, at a Staples store that Citibank immediately flagged. Probably someone working with the scumbag thief inside the store allowed such a shady transaction. SO many retail workers are shady, ESPECIALLY at gas stations and restaurants.

Unfortunately the transaction went through and it took a while of raising hell with Citibank, filing the police report, etc. but we got our money credited.

Immediately after that, we changed the accounts and disabled any debit cards - only straight ATM cards for those accounts. And we also make damn sure nothing can touch our savings accounts, CDs, money markets etc. We use our business credit cards for everything else.

Unfortunately, it looks like some bastard or bastards got a hold of my AMEX business card info and has been going to gas stations running up fat charges almost daily for the last couple of months. So now I have AMEX working on that nonsense while I step through each of the charges so I know which to dispute.
Ugh, what a hassle. It's at least $2500 in charges.
 
This is why you should use a credit card and not a debit card. Only thing I use my debit card for is ATM transactions.
 
My Suntrust Check Card was hit back in November for about $500. They caught the charges immediately, called ME, and canceled them before they ever posted to my account. Then they sent me a new card. It's strange that the OP's bank is making him wait til they post before he can dispute.... just from my experience.

My Suntrust check card (Visa) has zero liability for fraud, so I feel pretty safe using it anywhere... although I guess some of you feel otherwise.
 
I work for a large commercial bank in a branch and what I've noticed is that the level of consistency for people dealing with fraud on their accounts and having it resolved quickly varies. Most of the time people are called when charges come up and it's clear that that wasn't them, such as a charge coming from NY when you live in CO. Usually under these circumstances the customers are immediately given credit while the investigation is going on, similar to how most banks will give you credit for deposits prior to checks actually clearing. FYI: The actual clearing process for most checks, even if local, is at least 2 days because of the way it gets routed manually, and if it's out of state and in a state that's pretty far away from you it can take up to 7 business days, so don't get pissed off at tellers when they put holds on your funds, it's prompted by the system and yes it really is necessary to ensure that the check is going to clear...unless you want to take the chance of it bouncing and owing the bank $$$ in OD charges.

Anyways, the larger your bank, the better (usu.) their Loss Management/Prevention and Fraud dept.'s are. Ours are pretty good, there's a dept. that watches check card fraud in particular and the system flags suspicious transactions, it prompts a person to call you and verify that it was or wasn't you and if it wasn't then that's where the investigation starts. But, I have seen some instances where the customer doesn't get immediate credit and they have to wait until both banks (custies and the business that got paid) LP dept's agree on the fact that it was fraud. In those situations it's usually because the customer is new to the bank (new is up to 6 months at my bank), and/or has past fraudulent activity which makes additional activity at a recent time very suspicious. Check cards these days are pretty safe unless you're being careless about things. But like people have noted, I think the general rule should be, if you have to let your card out of your sight (restaurants are a big one), then try to use a credit card, whereas if you're almost always in contact with your card and are watching the person swipe it, then it's probably pretty safe to use your debit card b/c that person doesn't have the opportunity to take down your info.

One final note, I think this is a given for most of the CAG's but you should avoid using checks as much as possible. Why? Checks have your name, (usu.) they have your address, it has your bank and most have the branch that you started your account at which is a good sign of where you bank, sometimes people put their phone numbers on them, they have your ABA/routing number, account number and even what check sequence you're in. Checks are by far the WORST way to make payments unless they're to somebody you know and trust...yes they do offer a way to trace your transactions but they have everything somebody needs to get into your accounts and they don't even have to ask you for anything. Know how most stores need your ID information for checks too? Guess what, once you give them that, they now can even spoof your ID with all the correct info...and that makes it damn hard to trace them.

Credit Cards > Check Cards > Checks
 
#1 easy thing that I can recommend people to do if they use a debit card is call your bank once a year and request a new card (with a different card number) and have the old card cancelled.

I do it every year after having someone hack into the Ralph Lauren/Polo database 2 years ago and try to use my number to buy appliances in Brooklyn, NY (I live in Michigan).

It at least changes the number you are using, as many times it takes a while for the scammers who have hacked/stolen your number to re-sell it and then actually begin to use it. Many times this can take many months after databases are hacked before they get in the hands of drones who try using the numbers "in the field".

Do it now, before you get hit.
It's easy, and you usually have the new card in your hands within a week.
 
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