US Corn Yields Predicted to be Lowest in 17 Years

I wouldn't as I live three miles from work, a mile fom the grocery store etc. So I'd stil be using only electric the vast majority of the time and just use some gas maye once a month when I drive outside the city.

I'd want a plug in hybrid more for environment/conscience reasons than saving money on gas anyway. I'm fortunate to do ok money wise and not have any bad debt so I don't have to worry much about things like rising gas prices.
 
Wow so you are actually one of the few who can benefit from the Volt's terrible Electric range. I've bitched about the Volt saying one of the few places most people would benefit are those who work and live in the city.
 
I just saw a Shell commercial that said they're making ethanol using sugar cane with a partner in Brazil, so why the fuck aren't we doing something else here besides corn ethanol? Uggghhh....
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']While not exactly environmentally friendly, what about turning coal and natural gas into gasoline ala the Nazis?

Six year old article, but still....why the fuck aren't we trying to perfect this tech.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2006/10/thanks_for_the_cheap_gas_mr_hitler.html[/QUOTE]
The actual conversion process is simple; building the processors and mining the raw material isn't...and we're not even talking about the labor costs in the US yet.
 
No way - August/September is the *best* time of year for corn and tomatoes. I could live off of those for the entire two month period.

:drool:
 
[quote name='dohdough']The actual conversion process is simple; building the processors and mining the raw material isn't...and we're not even talking about the labor costs in the US yet.[/QUOTE]
If they ever do get around to trying the process in the US on a large scale, then I guess PA would be back to being king for coal again. There's a long history of coal mining in this state.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']No way - August/September is the *best* time of year for corn and tomatoes. I could live off of those for the entire two month period.

:drool:[/QUOTE]
I don't think it dawns on most people, but corn is a whole grain as well.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']If they ever do get around to trying the process in the US on a large scale, then I guess PA would be back to being king for coal again. There's a long history of coal mining in this state.[/QUOTE]
You say that as if it's a good thing.

It isn't.
 
[quote name='Clak']For that short commute you could just ride a damn bicycle.[/QUOTE]

Covered this in another thread recently.

Too hot much of the year here and I can't be all sweaty for work. Dangerous too as there aren't any bike lanes on my route and the roads are busy.

In any case I don't care about the environment anywhere near enough to make the sacrifice of biking to work or the store etc. A car is a luxury I'll never do without. I'm fine with the costs and minimizing carbon footprint by having a short commute and not driving a gas guzzler etc.
 
I actually would if I lived that close, would be decent exercise, something I don't get enough of. I understand the traffic and heat situation, I know what the south is like this time of the year.
 
[quote name='dohdough']You say that as if it's a good thing.

It isn't.
[/QUOTE]
I know it isn't, just like the current Marcellus shale natural gas mining they're doing here, which is putting more toxins into the ground due to the sloppy way the companies doing the mining are operating.

Apparently this state has learned nothing from the decades of coal mining and all of the mine scarred land and subsequent subsidences from collapsing tunnels in the days since that era ended.
 
[quote name='Clak']I actually would if I lived that close, would be decent exercise, something I don't get enough of. I understand the traffic and heat situation, I know what the south is like this time of the year.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I also exercise a lot as is is so I don't have that incentive enticing me either.
 
Thinking more about plug in hybrids, there is a big problem currently for a lot of city dwellers like myself--no place to plug it in at home. I live in a high rise condo and park in an underground garage beneath the building. Many others around me are in condos with flat parking outside, or above ground garages.

So it's really limited to people who own houses with driveways or garages where they have access to a plug.

Will be a long time before plug in cars are popular enough that condo/apartment complexes will install plugs at parking spots metered to the assigned units etc.

So they're pretty limited in usefulness right now since the limited range makes them really only suitable to city dwellers, and a large portion of them will lack places to plug them in overnight in the near term.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Thinking more about plug in hybrids, there is a big problem currently for a lot of city dwellers like myself--no place to plug it in at home. I live in a high rise condo and park in an underground garage beneath the building. Many others around me are in condos with flat parking outside, or above ground garages.

So it's really limited to people who own houses with driveways or garages where they have access to a plug.

Will be a long time before plug in cars are popular enough that condo/apartment complexes will install plugs at parking spots metered to the assigned units etc.

So they're pretty limited in usefulness right now since the limited range makes them really only suitable to city dwellers, and a large portion of them will lack places to plug them in overnight in the near term.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Some cities are piloting plug-in stations at parking meters for day parking, but that still doesn't make of for the lack of residential infrastructure. City living and parking are often mutually exclusive.:lol:
 
Yeah, Atlanta is different than a lot of other big cities on that front. Public transit infrastructure sucks, and it's a very spread out city. So it's very much designed around driving, and parking is pretty easy. Lots of street parking, plenty of garages, fairly reasonable prices etc. Nothing like NYC, Boston, Chicago etc.

Traffic sucks on the interstates for people who live out in the burbs, but traffic is mostly pretty light in the city--at least in downtown and midtown. Up north in Buckhead can get more backed up since that's the trendiest area with lots of restaurants, stores, a ritzy mall etc.
 
There are actually quite a few businesses here that have plug in stations, mostly restaurants. Cracker Barrel and a McDonald's come to mind. It's growing, eventually they'll be pretty common, I don't know how much the charging stations cost to have put it in, that may be a factor too.
 
Yeah, I think we'll see more popping up in public like that (and the meters dohdough mentioned) before the residential infrastructure issues are addressed.

It's an area government (and private businesses) will likely address before condo/apartment complexes well. Most people just don't care enough to both pay more for a plug in hybrid vs. a standard car period, much less to pay for that and pay to install a charging station at their residence be it a one time fee, or higher rent/condo fees etc.
 
Yeah, I figure the proliferation of charging stations will increase as the number of plug-ins on the road increase. Right now I rarely ever see the existing stations used, so msot people are going to be reluctant to install them.
 
This is why I'd like to start my own set of charge stations in tandem with them doing BioDiesel, E85 and traditional Gasoline as I think there will soon be a market for it.
I see it as an opportunity to overtake some companies and the crap they sell at gas stations.
As for dmaul you don't have a garden?! You must know the Great Mother sir. :whistle2:(
edit: Myke I hope you're joking about drinking Pepsi. You know as well as I do that GMO's are likely poisonous.
 
I live in a 30 story high rise condo building. Of course I don't have a garden. :D

Not much interest in that anyway. Grew up in the country in a 2.5 acre plot and my parents having a big garden etc. Hate screwing with yard work, gardens etc.

I'm a big city yuppie through and through now! :D
 
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