Virtual Console games announced

[quote name='daroga']And all it takes is one playing of UMK3 for me to remember that it was a mediocre game made more mediocre by time.

To each his own, though. :) How about not thread-crapping in here, though, ok? Thanks. :)[/quote]Oh, so it's not "Nintendo is the awesomest!" so it's threadcrapping? Then say the same to some of the other people in this thread who don't give a rats ass about frickin' NES pinball. Believe it or not, although this forum is designed for Wii chat, there CAN be opinions posted within it that aren't 1000% Nintendo fanboy gushing.
 
[quote name='Michaellvortega']I was going to post something similar about why so much for a game "virtually" untouched. With no online co-op or anything added why pay for these games. Still their can be some good stuff to DL in the future.


EDIT: How are we going to play Mario 64?[/quote]
Why pay? To make it legal and not have to have 15 different consoles hooked up to play these games.

The DualShock-esque Classic Controller will do Mario 64 for ya, or maybe a GC controller if its compatible.
 
[quote name='dothog']The OP leaves out some important information from that press release.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=7662


My bold for emphasis with Go Nintendo's comments still in there.

If the Mario games "start at" the lowest MSRP for each respective generation, I can't imagine what the pricing will look like on other games. The VC went from being my most anticipated feature of the Wii to my most loathed thanks to the pricing structure. I'm just hoping that there are eventually a lot of pack-ins and deals out there on Wii Points cards[/quote]Heh, people have been ignoring that particular aspect of the wording since the day of the announcement, so it's really as yet no surprise to me. But as I think I said a month or two ago, whenever that was, logic states that if they try to charge $20 for an SNES game, it'll either be a deal (any expensive carts) or a horrible deal that very few people will pay, and prices will drop accordingly. Sales that are 100% profit provide 0 profit if there are 0 purchases.

And the one bonus of using points (XBL, VC) instead of actual money (PS3), points can be discounted at retail.
 
[quote name='dothog']If the Mario games "start at" the lowest MSRP for each respective generation, I can't imagine what the pricing will look like on other games. The VC went from being my most anticipated feature of the Wii to my most loathed thanks to the pricing structure. I'm just hoping that there are eventually a lot of pack-ins and deals out there on Wii Points cards[/quote]
I noticed that when Nintendo revealed the price structure and have been trying to block it out. I mostly just want SMRPG and maybe Earthbound, but I have a bad feeling about those two especially...
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Oh, so it's not "Nintendo is the awesomest!" so it's threadcrapping? Then say the same to some of the other people in this thread who don't give a rats ass about frickin' NES pinball. Believe it or not, although this forum is designed for Wii chat, there CAN be opinions posted within it that aren't 1000% Nintendo fanboy gushing.[/quote]True enough, but under the thinly-veiled guise of your post was a "VC sucks! XBLA FTW!!!1" post. I appreciate your follow up post, and aplogogize if I misread ya. :)
 
[quote name='javeryh']I can't believe people are getting excited to rebuy all these games. I'm not saying I won't buy a couple over the life of the console but really everything I want to play I've already played, including every single game on that list. Even if you've missed them due to not being alive when they originally came out or something there are much cheaper ways to play the classics...

Also, 99% of NES games completely suck ass if you try to play them now. There are less than 10 games that merit playing through again, IMO.[/QUOTE]

It's a tough call....I mean some of the games like baseball (which is actual a favorite of mine) have pretty much infinite replayability while others don't. I told myself I would try to stick to things that I would always want to play but to try some games I may have missed out on might be worth it too. It's hard because just like with the Live arcade you can't resell what you don't want anymore. I think just like with Arcade point cards we can get could deals on Nintendo VC cards so the games will most likely be cheaper than $5 $8 or $10.

As for the Japanese list I hope this means Capcom and Konami will support the VC here.
 
[quote name='jkam']As for the Japanese list I hope this means Capcom and Konami will support the VC here.[/quote]
They'd be stupid not to. Contra, Mega Man 2, Mega Man 3. These I need, and all will be well. ;)
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']I am just saying that the Virtual Console, in it's current form, is nothing but a pay-to-play emulator, while Xbox Live Arcade at least has Achievements, Online play, etc.[/quote]

I think that's all that Nintendo was really going for with the VC: legalized emulation. Sure it would be cool if it had rankings and shit, but for now I'm reveling in the fact that I could possibly pay only 8 bucks for Super Mario RPG.
 
An expected list...but a damned boring one, IMO. I'm not paying the money they want for those titles.

[quote name='Scobie']That's better than what I was expecting, actually. Now I wonder if they'll get us Mike Tyson's Punch-Out *with* Tyson and not the version where Super Macho Man is the final fight.[/QUOTE]

Mr. Dream, dude. Mr. Dream; just a sprite change on Tyson to make him a hunkey. But, since you don't know that, it's a strike against you. Two more and you know what happens: we tear up your membership card and cancel your quarterly subscription to "Club Nintendo News." You know the rules, hombre.
 
[quote name='lordwow']It's there I thought.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think "Mario Bros" is the original Atari game about hitting monsters out of pipes that Nintendo shoved onto every Mario GBA cart, while SUPER Mario Bros is the NES platformer we all know and love.

Now, maybe it's just an error and it is super mario bros, but something tells me it's that stupid old school Mario game for the billionth time.

Could Nintendo have rolled out any more of it's generic sports games? That list is really painful and not the bang they should have used to start out its virtual console.... no wonder they kept the game list under wraps for so long.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Maybe I'm wrong, but I think "Mario Bros" is the original Atari game about hitting monsters out of pipes that Nintendo shoved onto every Mario GBA cart, while SUPER Mario Bros is the NES platformer we all know and love.
[/QUOTE]

*scratches another game off the list*
 
[quote name='botticus']Was "Mario Bros." ever released on the NES? The Japanese list does say Super Mario Bros.[/QUOTE]

Yep

nesmariobrossqt5.jpg
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Maybe I'm wrong, but I think "Mario Bros" is the original Atari game about hitting monsters out of pipes that Nintendo shoved onto every Mario GBA cart, while SUPER Mario Bros is the NES platformer we all know and love.

Now, maybe it's just an error and it is super mario bros, but something tells me it's that stupid old school Mario game for the billionth time.

Could Nintendo have rolled out any more of it's generic sports games? That list is really painful and not the bang they should have used to start out its virtual console.... no wonder they kept the game list under wraps for so long.[/quote]
Straight from Nintendo's own article on the launch list, it's Mario Bros.
 
one thing i would really like to see is some kind of VC connectivity with the DS. if they released a cart that you could download VC games onto, that would be fantastic.
 
Meh, but it's just the start. When all the classic shmups start coming out, I'll be there. Gunstar will be a warm up.

Here's hoping for a non-slowdown version of UN Squadron...
 
There's video footage of Super Mario Brothers being played on the Virtual Console at one of the conventions, so it's almost definitely that one. (Also for Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario 64)
 
I hope companies like Sega eventually release their Arcade only stuff on the VC. As it is now, that launch list is ok, not sure if I want to get anyhthing besides the Turbo games.
 
[quote name='jkam']Yep

nesmariobrossqt5.jpg
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A lot of people don't realize that the Famicom was around in Japan for a fair while before Super Mario Bros. appeared.

The very first mention I ever saw of the Famicom was in a gaming magazine in late 1982 called St. Game that foucused mainly on 8-bit Apple and Atari computers. At the time consoles were almost completely dead in the US, so the brief article discussing the Famicom looked upon it as a curiosity but something unlikely to ever show up in the US. The game shown running on the system was the original Mario Bros. At the time having it was still a worthy arcade hit for a new console to claim.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Maybe I'm wrong, but I think "Mario Bros" is the original Atari game about hitting monsters out of pipes that Nintendo shoved onto every Mario GBA cart, while SUPER Mario Bros is the NES platformer we all know and love.

Now, maybe it's just an error and it is super mario bros, but something tells me it's that stupid old school Mario game for the billionth time.

Could Nintendo have rolled out any more of it's generic sports games? That list is really painful and not the bang they should have used to start out its virtual console.... no wonder they kept the game list under wraps for so long.[/QUOTE]

Original Atari? Atari had no involvement other than licensing the game for consoles and computers. Their original license allowed Atari to release it solely on computers, interpreted as anything that came standard with a keyboard, with Coleco getting the console rights as they did with other Nintendo titles. After Coleco died the Atari license was extended to include consoles for a sum of money that would be considered pocket change by today's standards, even adjusting for inflation. Before they got into the hardware end in the NA market, Nintendo used to let license go remarkably cheap and hope for big royalties.

Mario Bros. for the Atari computers was delayed for years. They did a very good version but it came in at 20 kilobytes. 4K over the 16K limit for Atari carts without resorting to bank switching techniques and additional costs. The 7800 version, despite the greater graphic horsepower of that machine was awful, as were the other 7800 version of Nintendo titles compared to the 400/800 versions. The developers given the job were just inferior, IMHO.


With the exception of games already overly available on other venues, the pattern here seems to be aimed at recreating the chronological sequence of the games' original releases.
 
[quote name='Pope On A Rope']There's video footage of Super Mario Brothers being played on the Virtual Console at one of the conventions, so it's almost definitely that one. (Also for Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario 64)[/quote]
They also had SMB3 on display at E3 as well and it's nowhere in sight. If it was Super Mario Bros., they'd say it was Super Mario Bros., not Mario Bros.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']They also had SMB3 on display at E3 as well and it's nowhere in sight. If it was Super Mario Bros., they'd say it was Super Mario Bros., not Mario Bros.[/quote]
Yup. The bummer is, you look at Japan's list, they have both "Mario Bros." and "Super Mario Bros."

I have a feeling we'll see some 2D Mario tie-ins with Mario Galaxy. Though, I do hope I don't have to wait that long to get Mario 3, but I certainly wasn't expecting my favorite platformer of all time to be available from the get-go anyway.
 
I'm overall OK with the list. I mean there will be more eventually! Can't give ALL the goodies out at once, because then there's nothing to look foward to.

I am, however, pretty disappointed with the SNES. Such a great system and they could of done better then those 2. Doesn't have to be AAA games, but still..

Oh well!
 
Why are 2000 point cards $25? They were supposed to be $20. That throws off the whole 500 points = $5 bit. Guess it's a good thing I didn't bother with the classic controller yet, as I won't be biting on VC downloads till I can score some points uber cheap.
 
[quote name='botticus']Why are 2000 point cards $25? They were supposed to be $20. That throws off the whole 500 points = $5 bit. Guess it's a good thing I didn't bother with the classic controller yet, as I won't be biting on VC downloads till I can score some points uber cheap.[/quote]I wondered that myself, but it looks like Wal-Mart is gearing up to sell them for $20.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=7556
 
I'm in for Gunstar Heroes, but the fact that Japan and Europe get Donkey Kong Country and America doesn't right off the bat is garbage.
 
I'm as excited for the Wii as anyone else, but honestly? I don't think I care for any games that are going to be released in any territory. I'm happy to see Dungeon Explorer getting introduced to a new geeneration of gamers as it's a very good series of games (both of them). But I have the HuCard and I can buy it again for less than the VC price right now from a small game shop I know.

I'm a little jacked about no R-Type III and I would have prefered Bomberman 94 over 93 (but both are better than Bomberman 1 and 2).

Problem is with the NES games I have most of those in Animal Crossing if I want to play them again.

If they had online multiplayer it'd be a different thing. I'll pick up one or maybe two for the 'cool' factor but I don't think I'm going to be doing much else. I just prefer to have the whole packaging. I think I'll treat the VC like I do with games on my cellphone - I'll only spend a little because I know in the long run, one day I won't be able to play them at all.
 
[quote name='daroga']Yup. The bummer is, you look at Japan's list, they have both "Mario Bros." and "Super Mario Bros."[/QUOTE]

Even more of a bummer is that the Japan list has a ton of great titles.
 
Like daroga said, the older Mario games are probably going to be released along side Mario Galaxy. There will probably be some kind of promotion with SMB VC stuff.

I will be buying:

* Mario 64 - never owned a Nintendo 64 and the DS version's controls have hindered my playtime

* Bonk - as another poster said, I've only played the demo that was in some stores

* Gunstar Heroes - never played it for whatever reason

* Toejam and Earl - never owned it but played it at a friends house

It is an ok list so far, but I think Nintendo would rather focus on the actual Wii games at launch. We'll get the good stuff eventually.

BTW, those who think the big announcement is going to be online play for the classic VC titles, think again. Nintendo has stated that the graphics will not be updated and no additional features will be added.

My guess is that the announcement will be original games for the VC (which may feature online play).
 
[quote name='Blaine']

Problem is with the NES games I have most of those in Animal Crossing if I want to play them again.[/QUOTE]

Is there a list online somewhere of all the games? AC is not my type of game, so would it be worth picking up cheap for the NES games alone?
 
[quote name='lebowsky']My guess is that the announcement will be original games for the VC (which may feature online play).[/quote]For as cool as I tihnk the old games are, this is the feature of the VC/Wii I'm most excited about. Cheap, new games, catered by Nintendo. You just know the Wii'll have a few Geometry Wars of its own, simple games that no one saw coming but are a blast to play a bit too addictive. :)
 
I'm wondering if Nintendo is holding of some big titles to do online multiplayer.

*Shrugs*

Maybe just wishful thinking.
 
[quote name='Corvin']Is there a list online somewhere of all the games? AC is not my type of game, so would it be worth picking up cheap for the NES games alone?[/quote]

Your best bet is to get it and a Pro Action Replay just to unlock them all from the word go:

games are available to collect in Animal Crossing. Animal Crossing is packaged with a memory card that gives the player two games. Others are acquired in various ways. LOTZ and Super Mario Brothers need a Pro Action Replay to unlock. The games available are:

[quote name='Wikipedia']
Japanese Exclusives:
Everywhere else:
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The one thing to keep in mind about the NES games on Animal Crossing is that you actually have to load a save in Animal Crossing...go into the game and then go to play the NES games. I have it and I do play the classics on it but I would think the VC way would be much quicker and less of a hassle for some.
 
[quote name='aaandrewww']We need to start a VC review thread so I know what's worth my Wii points.[/quote]Yeah, I'm kinda curious if sites will dig up old reviews as new VC games are released.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']
SUPER MARIO 64​

Ok, so, tell me: where do you guys get off thinking that you should hold off downloading any VC title until OoT comes out?

I hate you fuckers. fuck OoT for life, bitch! You wanna start the fucking war all over again, bitch!
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112473[/quote]Wow, settle down. You don't like OoT, others do. I think we can all live with each other.

VC reviews are definately in order. Especially with a focus on how they run on the VC. Flawless emulation? Glitches? Anything added or taken away from the original games?
 
Hopefully the virtual console games will scale nicely like the Zelda GC compilation disc does. Hooked my N64 up to my Panasonic projector to play some Mario 64 only to find it looks like COMPLETE ASS when blown up to 100", however, OoT looks just fine via the Gamecube.
 
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