Visual Concepts fights back by getting getting exclusive rights to the MLB?

I hope so, EA was in the wrong to buy out ESPN and NFL, this is only fair. You should beat your competition by making a superior product (Sega), rather then buy all the competition (EA).
 
I hope this works because I enjoy there baseball games much more than EA's MVP. It strikes back to EA more than they think. Now how do they like it? :lol:
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Good for SEGA. I hope they go and do the same for the WTA and bring back Virtua Tennis[/quote]

This isnt sega, sega sold visual concepts (the company that makes all of the sports games) to take two
 
I wonder if VC and Take-Two will go after Fox for commentary

EDIT: I did not know that VC had already been taken over by Take Two. I guess it is for the best since Take-Two has more money and Sammy is probably not willing to pony up the money
 
EA gets the NFL and VC gets MLB? I'm sure EA will have to go cry in a big bag of money if this deal does finalize.
 
I think there is some kind of agreement in the NBA union that prevents an exclusive license to any product. That might be why they are doing a license for street ball, simulation, etc...

I love this little war. You can practically feel the hatred.
 
These "exclusive" deals have got to stop. I would think it would be in the best interests of the NFL, MLB or whoever to have more than one licensee. I know EA probably threw a bag of money at them but I can't help but think that they could earn more with more licensees....
 
Take two will lose the battle against EA and I say this financially. Take two doesnt have much in terms of longevity besides its GTA license.

I wish it wasnt true as I would love to See EA fall before they get the idea to release their own console.
 
[quote name='javeryh']These "exclusive" deals have got to stop. I would think it would be in the best interests of the NFL, MLB or whoever to have more than one licensee. I know EA probably threw a bag of money at them but I can't help but think that they could earn more with more licensees....[/quote]

apparently not.....since they are selling exclusive deals.
 
it doesn't make a difference, all baseball games are crappy...they are an afterthougth compared to what is/was put into the football games
 
it seems ea has some kick ass lawyers who can close the deal. i wonder is sega was outgunned, or if they just fell asleep at the wheel on these exclusive deals. producing a quality product at rock bottom prices can affect available resources. charge 19.99 for your games will decrease the amount of resources for exclusive deals. charge full price for equivalent madden series gives you plenty of $$ to hire attack lawyers to buy up licenses preventing a repeat of previous year (sega's competition)
 
For those who dont read the article

"Word is, it could be an exclusive third party contract, meaning first-party publishers like Sony (989), Microsoft, and Nintendo will still be able to publish games using the real players and teams, but surprisingly, it's mega power EA who will be cut out of the loop.
"

I think thats kinda cool...even if it does make another 989 game possible
 
[quote name='Wshakspear']
I think thats kinda cool...even if it does make another 989 game possible[/quote]

please, have some respect for the dead
 
Personally, I think all of this exclusivity nonsense absoulutely sucks. It sucks for us, the people who play games. Competition breeds quality and with all of these companies having exclusive contracts there is no incentive to produce the best product possible; only a passable one. I understand that VC is making a defensive move more than anything; it just sucks that they have to do it at all. I blame the NFL first and EA second; EA not so much for the NFL license but more for the AFL license. Regardless of what some people are saying, EA is attempting to create a monopoly on football games and it sure looks like they are succeeding. If you don't think they are trying this, read the article about their AFL license purchase. There is a direct quote from one of EA's top execs, I'm not sure who, blatantly admitting this. EA has earned your contempt. I say bury them in it.

Don't even get me started on the NFL...
 
[quote name='screwkick']I think having the NFL license is more valuable than the MLB license. Not really a victory for VC.[/quote]

Agreed, I know few people that buy MLB games, though many do rent, but I know tons who buy the madden games. This may end up costing the company money, rather than getting them any.
 
EA isn't the only one at fault - ESPN showed no sign of loyalty whatsoever to VC. I hate ESPN as much as EA, maybe more, and all of their announcers/sportscenter hosts are a bunch of arrogant windbags.
 
[quote name='Wshakspear']For those who dont read the article

"Word is, it could be an exclusive third party contract, meaning first-party publishers like Sony (989), Microsoft, and Nintendo will still be able to publish games using the real players and teams, but surprisingly, it's mega power EA who will be cut out of the loop.
"

I think thats kinda cool...even if it does make another 989 game possible[/quote]

Yeah I did see that. Who wants to bet EA doesn't have Sony and MS buy the rights to produce their MLB game as a 1st party title and actually end up making more money. That would be hilarious.
 
[quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

agreed, just because its not EA doesnt make it good, however it is nice they have the clause to let 1st parties still make games. in any case this deal is not set in stone so dont hold your breath.... as for the nba deal thats just stupid stupid stupid
 
I agree that this is bad for game players. Personally I don't play sports games, but I feel bad for fans of VC's line of games.

But this is a blood war. It's very bitter.
 
What the hell? NBA giving exclusive licenses for sim and arcade basketball games. It just seems like the leagues want to get as much money as they can from these exclusive agreements if they're going to do them.

I can handle the MLB thing, MVP has 125 year dynasty mode and I'm not even done with one year. I can't wait for this year's MVP, though, as it is definitely even better.
 
[quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.[/quote]

They were still competing against Madden then, just across platforms like there was between Smackdown and the N64 Aki games.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.[/quote]

Madden has been a quality football game for a long time. They have dominated, and they still continue to produce one of the best football games every year.

If this deal does go through its just as bad as what EA did with the NFL, so everyone railing against EA for the NFL deal better do the same to VC.
 
[quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.[/quote]

They were still competing against Madden then, just across platforms like there was between Smackdown and the N64 Aki games.[/quote]

you can't have two games compete when they are both published by the same company
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.[/quote]

They were still competing against Madden then, just across platforms like there was between Smackdown and the N64 Aki games.[/quote]

you can't have two games compete when they are both published by the same company[/quote]

I know about that, but I saw reviews that would compare them since they were on different platforms.
 
:idea: I think VC needs to make up some new sports, create actual real-life leagues, have these sports become more popular than football (and baseball), and then make video games based upon them. That'll show EA, they'll never see it coming. Er, yeah. :idea:
 
[quote name='Wshakspear']For those who dont read the article

"Word is, it could be an exclusive third party contract, meaning first-party publishers like Sony (989), Microsoft, and Nintendo will still be able to publish games using the real players and teams, but surprisingly, it's mega power EA who will be cut out of the loop.
"

I think thats kinda cool...even if it does make another 989 game possible[/quote]

This attitude, while to be expected, is nothing short of totally lame. I much prefer ESPN's sports games to EA (I don't play basketball games, but I'm to understand that ESPN is dominant there as well). This attitude reminds me of the episode of Futurama where Bender gets kicked out of a casino (or is it a museum?) on the moon. He walks off, declaring "I'm gonna start my own casino/museum...but with BEER...and HOOKERS!"

I dislike EA, but exclusivity is garbage, plain and simple.

I'd like to see what gamer's reactions would be if 989 grabbed some exclusivity. How would we (EA haters and "it's a great business move" morons together) react if all we had was GameDay?

myke.
...kidding, of course...I'd rather play Superman 64 than any 989 sports title.
 
EA bought the ESPN license?

:cry:

That's it, I'm not buying another fucking EA game, ever. EVery last EA game I get from now on will be pirated. fuck EA, they're not getting my cash, ever.
 
[quote name='hutno'][quote name='CaseyRyback']Good for SEGA. I hope they go and do the same for the WTA and bring back Virtua Tennis[/quote]

This isnt sega, sega sold visual concepts (the company that makes all of the sports games) to take two[/quote]

That's not true.

Take Two copublished the entire ESPN line along with Sega. In their agreement, Take Two has the right to acquire Visual Concepts and Kush Games, but they have not done so yet.

Supposedly, they have been negotiating a price to buy VC, but it hasn't been sold yet.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']EA bought the ESPN license?

:cry:

That's it, I'm not buying another shaq-fuing EA game, ever. EVery last EA game I get from now on will be pirated. shaq-fu EA, they're not getting my cash, ever.[/quote]

So now you're gonna get their games illegally?
 
[quote name='bil4l']I hope so, EA was in the wrong to buy out ESPN and NFL, this is only fair. You should beat your competition by making a superior product (Sega), rather then buy all the competition (EA).[/quote]

NO, they WEREN'T. They had every right to do so. You want somebody coming up to you and tell you you have no right to make money? ESPN AND NFL both agreed to this, it is what they wanted, and it is their product to do with AS THEY SOLELY PLEASE.

Geez. If you're going to be anti-EA, do so with logic, please.


Edit: My usual caveat. Again, I'm not saying this is what's best for the gaming community. But EA did not do anything 'wrong' here...and it isn't solely EA's doing. The NFL and ESPN both had to agree to this as well...and I assure you, they did so quite willingly.
 
[quote name='greendj27'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='msdmoney']This is just as bad for gaming as the EA exclusivity IMO. Sports exclusivity is bad no matter what the company.[/quote]

ah, but EA slacks off when they dominate.

when VC was the only company producing sports games on the DC they made some awesome ones, so they do not need competition to make a great game.[/quote]

Madden has been a quality football game for a long time. They have dominated, and they still continue to produce one of the best football games every year.

If this deal does go through its just as bad as what EA did with the NFL, so everyone railing against EA for the NFL deal better do the same to VC.[/quote]

VC has no fault in this. What do you expect them to do? Their motives are not to drive EA out of business, but for self preservation. Rumor had it that EA was considering buying the exclusives licenses for all of the major professional sports - NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL. VC had to do this or risk having their entire sports line-up descimated.
 
[quote name='YoshiFan1']http://sports.ign.com/articles/580/580468p1.html

Interesting, I really want this to go through just so they can fight back against EA but I would hate for the MLB Slugfest series to be done with (since the article said 1st parties could still release MLB games besides Sega).[/quote]

No use in my opinion. Football game sells way more than baseball.
 
[quote name='Polskaboy']EA isn't the only one at fault - ESPN showed no sign of loyalty whatsoever to VC. I hate ESPN as much as EA, maybe more, and all of their announcers/sportscenter hosts are a bunch of arrogant windbags.[/quote]

Blame Disney for that, since they are the owner of ESPN.
 
[quote name='bil4l']I hope so, EA was in the wrong to buy out ESPN and NFL, this is only fair. You should beat your competition by making a superior product (Sega), rather then buy all the competition (EA).[/quote]

Think about what you've written there. EA did not buy their competition. They bought an exclusive license to something that was formerly sold to both parties. What you wrote implies that EA bought Visual Concepts.

I find this rumor doubtful. Nobody has managed the same kind of dominance in a major team sport that EA has with football. The NFL didn't lose anything by having only EA doing NFL games. By comparison, baseball games have no 800-pound gorilla and the whole genre sells only a fraction of football's count. The MLB needs all the licensees it can sign up to make any great revenues from video games.
 
This whole situation is the worst for gamers. I mean, it seems like most people think that ESPN Football was the better of the football games. If anyone played both the ESPN and EA baseball games last year they know EA's game was unquestionably superior.

So if this deal goes through we'll end up with two inferior products this year.
 
Ok say they get to cut EA out, will they bring their baseball game to the Gamecube. I mean I don't really care about the deals but, if their not gonna make one for the Cube then I for one don't support this move.
 
[quote name='Gamer G']Ok say they get to cut EA out, will they bring their baseball game to the Gamecube. I mean I don't really care about the deals but, if their not gonna make one for the Cube then I for one don't support this move.[/quote]

That's a valid point you make regarding the Sega Sports series. I still don't support any move towards exclusivity, but this is rather interesting. I don't think anyone can say for 'yes' or 'no' for certain.

myke.
...any general theories about poor third-party support for the 'cube?
 
I think this is still bad for the industry as a whole if this goes through, but I will be kinda happy if Sega/Take Two can get the license and stick it to EA, though.
 
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