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Everyone in a Super Tuesday state, please, please, please remember to vote tomorrow. I cannot emphasize how important (and how close) the primaries are on both sides and, more broadly, how crucial it is to exercise the most fundamental right afforded to us as citizens in a democracy. Even if you are repulsed by your options, there is bound to be one candidate who repulses you slightly less than the others. You owe it to that candidate, your country, and yourself to register that opinion where it counts: At the voting booth.

This ends our regularly scheduled PSA. Carry on.
 
I thought about posting this in the general off topic section, but saw there was a forum specifically for politics so thought this was where it was supposed to go. But if a mod feels this is acceptable for the general section, please do move it there.
 
yeah, i think the vs forum will vote, the off topic kids are the ones that need to be reminded.


im waking up extra early tomorrow to vote before work, NO on every prop in california.
 
also i want to bitch again how for some reason PA is not until April 22nd. By then most likely there is no point of even voting.
 
I have almost no time to vote :(. Wake 8 am; go to work. Get off at 5; head to class that starts at 6. *sigh*

I'm demanding a half hour off to vote. Ron Paul needs my vote :D.
 
Too late for me to register as a Republican. Turns out I had to by January 25th. I'm still voting for Paul on the Presidential ballot. Anyone but Paul can piss off. Seriously I hate these Globalist scum.
 
Those of you worried about getting out of class or work: By law, your school or employer is required to give you up to two hours to vote on election days. Remind them of that if anyone tries to give you a hard time.

Some other things to note:

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  • If you are in line or in the process of voting at 7:00 p.m., the polls must remain open until you have an opportunity to vote.
  • If you are registered to vote, but your name does not appear on the voter list or you do not have the required form of photo ID, you still have the right to vote by using a provisional ballot. If this happens to you, you should ask the poll worker for a provisional ballot.
  • If anyone challenges your right to vote, you have the right to vote by provisional ballot.
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[quote name='Sarang01']Too late for me to register as a Republican. Turns out I had to by January 25th. I'm still voting for Paul on the Presidential ballot. Anyone but Paul can piss off. Seriously I hate these Globalist scum.[/quote]
Can't independents vote in this election, or is it only in certain states? I know in MA if you are not registered as either Dem or Rep, you can still vote, you just choose which party's ticket you want.
 
[quote name='Tybee']

  • If you are registered to vote, but your name does not appear on the voter list or you do not have the required form of photo ID, you still have the right to vote by using a provisional ballot. If this happens to you, you should ask the poll worker for a provisional ballot.
  • If anyone challenges your right to vote, you have the right to vote by provisional ballot.
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If you drive to the ballot location, this shouldn't be an issue. I love the fact that Voter ID is on.
 
[quote name='moiety']Can't independents vote in this election, or is it only in certain states? I know in MA if you are not registered as either Dem or Rep, you can still vote, you just choose which party's ticket you want.[/QUOTE]
Only in certain states can independents vote. RealClearPolitics has a good list (anything without a "c" next to the number of delegates is an open primary/caucus).
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']If you drive to the ballot location, this shouldn't be an issue. I love the fact that Voter ID is on.[/quote]

Soooo...Only people who drive and/or own a car should be able to vote? I must have missed that section of the Constitution. :roll:
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']also i want to bitch again how for some reason PA is not until April 22nd. By then most likely there is no point of even voting.[/quote]

I would like to bitch about this too please!
 
[quote name='Tybee']Soooo...Only people who drive and/or own a car should be able to vote? I must have missed that section of the Constitution. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Voter ID cards are free if you don't have a driver's license. Quit yer bitching.
 
Mike Huckabee wins the first GOP event of the day, the West Virginia state convention. It's winner take all (18 delegates)...and Huckabee won 52% to 47% over Romney. Delegates vote in rounds, dropping the lowest placing candidate, until someone has over 50%, Romney won the first round...and I guess by the final round it was Huckabee as the winner.
 
Not surprising as WV just instituted a Firearm Education curriculum in thier public highschools.

I'm dead serious, gun class in public highschools. This country is so fucked I don't wanna have kids, which brings me to another NOFX Song's lyrics which are particularly appropriate for the vs. forums.

it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?

Mensa membership conceding
tell me why and how are all the stupid people breeding
Watson, it's really elementary
the industrial revolution
has flipped the bitch on evolution
the benevolent and wise are being thwarted, ostracized, what a bummer
the world keeps getting dumber
insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason

darwin's rollin over in his coffin
the fittest are surviving much less often
now everything seems to be reversing, and it's worsening
someone flopped a steamer in the gene pool
now angry mob mentality's no longer the exception, it's the rule
and im startin to feel a lot like charlton heston
stranded on a primate planet
apes and orangutans that ran it to the ground
with generals and the armies that obeyed them
followers following fables
philosophies that enable them to rule without regard

there's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred
majority rule, don't work in mental institutions
sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions

what are we left with?
a nation of god-fearing pregnant nationalists
who feel it's their duty to populate the homeland
pass on traditions
how to get ahead religions
And prosperity via simpleton culture

the idiots are takin over
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[quote name='pittpizza']Not surprising as WV just instituted a Firearm Education curriculum in thier public highschools.

I'm dead serious, gun class in public highschools.[/QUOTE]

Next up: 'How to fake nausea at seeing your sister naked', followed by, 'We're too dumb to not terrorize the best coach in state school history - an apology.'
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Voter ID cards are free if you don't have a driver's license. Quit yer bitching.[/quote]
But why do we need them? There's never been a single recorded case of voter impersonation in any state...ever. And for good reason: The reward does not justify the risk. Misrepresenting your identity at a polling place is already a felony. Assuming you somehow manage to successfully pull it off (and chances are, if you're willing to go that far, you could get a fake voter ID anyway), you've managed to illicitly cast one vote. Whoopee!!!

The Voter ID law has made Georgia the laughing stock of the nation, and it will shortly be struck down by the Supreme Court anyway. I find it ironic, that Republicans, who proposed and overwhelmingly passed this thinly-veiled attempt to shore up their electorate, claim to be for less bureacracy, and yet were perfectly fine with installing this pointless hoop for people to jump through.
 
I'll see you all in May for the KY primary, where my vote will be as meaningful as the Patriot's last drive on Sunday.

I'll still vote in the primaries - but I'm just sayin'.

Now, it's to decide if Obama's fiscal irresponsibility in his platform is forgivable in the face of the rest of his platform, which I agree with - or if I think Clinton will actually bring our troops home.

I have plenty of time to mull over these questions.
 
[quote name='Tybee']But why do we need them? There's never been a single recorded case of voter impersonation in any state...ever. And for good reason: The reward does not justify the risk. Misrepresenting your identity at a polling place is already a felony. Assuming you somehow manage to successfully pull it off (and chances are, if you're willing to go that far, you could get a fake voter ID anyway), you've managed to illicitly cast one vote. Whoopee!!!

The Voter ID law has made Georgia the laughing stock of the nation, and it will shortly be struck down by the Supreme Court anyway. I find it ironic, that Republicans, who proposed and overwhelmingly passed this thinly-veiled attempt to shore up their electorate, claim to be for less bureacracy, and yet were perfectly fine with installing this pointless hoop for people to jump through.[/QUOTE]

You need an ID to drive. You need an ID to work. You need an ID to get medical attention (in most cases). You need an ID to cash checks. You need an ID to get into a club. You need an ID to buy beer (under 49?) or tobacco (37?).

My question is, if you don't have some form of ID, what exactly do you do?
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']You need an ID to drive. You need an ID to work. You need an ID to get medical attention (in most cases). You need an ID to cash checks. You need an ID to get into a club. You need an ID to buy beer (under 49?) or tobacco (37?).[/quote]
And you need to register to vote. That should be enough.

I walked to my polling place. Suppose I am unaware of this new law (because, let's be honest, they haven't worked very hard to publicize it) and I show up at my polling place without my wallet half an hour before the polls close. I'm pretty much screwed. There are millions of low-income and elderly voters who could very easily find themselves in this situation. And that's what the people who passed this law are counting on.

I say again, there has not been a single case of voter impersonation in the entire history of the United States. Meanwhile, there have been thousands, perhaps millions of instances of U.S. citizens being denied their constitutional right to vote due to paperwork snafus. So how in the world do you justify this law, which serves no purpose but to create another barrier between voters and their rights?

Why aren't we focusing on ways to get more people to the polls, rather than working so hard to keep them out?
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']id probably say that the vs forum posters are more likely to vote then the general population of CAG[/quote]

I don't congregate in the vs forum, but I did vote already.:D
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'll see you all in May for the KY primary, where my vote will be as meaningful as the Patriot's last drive on Sunday.

I'll still vote in the primaries - but I'm just sayin'.

Now, it's to decide if Obama's fiscal irresponsibility in his platform is forgivable in the face of the rest of his platform, which I agree with - or if I think Clinton will actually bring our troops home.

I have plenty of time to mull over these questions.[/QUOTE]

I consider you my friend as I hope you consider me yours. I really wish I could convince you to either register Republican or Independent depending on your states primary regulations and have you vote for Ron Paul.
 
No. I'm not interested in a vehement anti-federalist racist and anti-semite as president. But you're allowed to vote how you want.
 
I love how 1% of the precincts will report their votes, and immediately everyone "projects" who will win that state...then a few hours (minutes) later, they are flat out wrong.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']I love how 1% of the precincts will report their votes, and immediately everyone "projects" who will win that state...then a few hours (minutes) later, they are flat out wrong.[/QUOTE]

"We project Al Gore as the winner of Florida."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']"We project Al Gore as the winner of Florida."[/quote]

;)

What I don't understand now is how someone can still vote for a person who stopped their campaign. Looking at some of these early results, there are a good number of states that have Edwards with a percentage of the vote.

What gives? Are people really that out of it?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1'];)

What I don't understand now is how someone can still vote for a person who stopped their campaign. Looking at some of these early results, there are a good number of states that have Edwards with a percentage of the vote.

What gives? Are people really that out of it?[/quote]
Some older folks are. My wife's grandparents live in Roanoke, Alabama and are lifelong Democrats (even though they are ultra-conservative evangelicals). They vote Democrat pretty much no matter what, so long as it isn't a black person or Hillary (grandma's exact words: "I ain't votin' for that woman.").....So I suspect they saw Edwards as their only boy in the race and would not be at all suprised if they voted for him today, unaware that he was no longer in the race.

Sadly, a lot of my wife's family fully believes that claptrap about Obama being being a millitant muslim. Disgusting. Thankfully, she has more sense.
 
Tybee;3910554 Suppose I am unaware of this new law (because said:
They've advertised it on radio, TV and the internet, for over two months. Point denied.

I'm not trying to get any set of people denied to vote. I would like to see people actually make an effort to know who is running, and why they're voting for them.
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[quote name='Tybee']Some older folks are. My wife's grandparents live in Roanoke, Alabama and are lifelong Democrats (even though they are ultra-conservative evangelicals). They vote Democrat pretty much no matter what, so long as it isn't a black person or Hillary (grandma's exact words: "I ain't votin' for that woman.").....So I suspect they saw Edwards as their only boy in the race and would not be at all suprised if they voted for him today, unaware that he was no longer in the race.

Sadly, a lot of my wife's family fully believes that claptrap about Obama being being a millitant muslim. Disgusting.[/quote]

I understand completely. Half of the people around here don't want to vote for Obama because he's "muslim".

I have however yet to meet a Hillary supporter.

As I grow older, it just amazes me at the number of people who are like, "oh, there's an election today?" or "I'm voting for her because she's a woman, and so am I." Better yet, "I don't follow it all much."
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']They've advertised it on radio, TV and the internet, for over two months. Point denied.

I'm not trying to get any set of people denied to vote. I would like to see people actually make an effort to know who is running, and why they're voting for them.[/quote]


we have the right to vote, that is a right greater than all other rights. If they were so concerned over voter fraud they should look into the computer voting machines. But no they go after the group that is easiest to be disenfranchized.
 
I just got back from voting for
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Well, I voted for Romney, not that it really made a difference.

Damn Clinton, Obama, McCain...well...pretty much all the other candidates...except for Ron Paul. I liked him, but he did not have a chance.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1'];)

What I don't understand now is how someone can still vote for a person who stopped their campaign. Looking at some of these early results, there are a good number of states that have Edwards with a percentage of the vote.

What gives? Are people really that out of it?[/QUOTE]
I voted for Edwards.
 
The right-wing radio guys have been going nuts claiming collusion b/w Huckabee and McCain. Not the sort of "a vote for Nader/Huckabee is a vote for George Bush/John McCain" (though they believe that, too) - but actually arguing that McCain voters are going out and voting for Huckabee in states where Romney was projected to win so as to ensure that delegates don't go to Romney.

McCain is not an ideal candidate for 'conservatives' (he must not be if I think the guy's alright), but what he represents about ideological conservatives is fantastic. The very fact that these religious extremists have been forced to embrace a PRO-CHOICE MORMON over a pro-life christian candidate in McCain (you may think Romney's Mormonism doesn't matter, but recall that in 2004 some of these same people brought up Kerry's Catholicism as evidence that he wasn't committed to christian beliefs :lol:)...well, that tells me everything about how much character they really have and how genuine they are in their beliefs.
 
Exactamundo. I've heard about the purported collusion between Huckabee and McCain. The theory's...flawed. They claim it based on nice comments Huckabee's made about McCain in the past. Then again, McCain put together a nice ad at one point with nice comments about him from Romney, Giuliani, Thompson, and Huckabee...around the time McCain appeared "dead in the water" last summer, everyone was saying how great McCain was because, in anticipation of him dropping out they all wanted his endorsement.

My how the tables have turned.

I still don't get how these conservatives can hate McCain with such vitrol. It just doesn't make sense to me, especially considering their big problems they have with him are...2 issues. Everything else he seems to be with them but because he doesn't take crap from people, won't let people waste money on pet projects, and is willing to work towards compromise from time to time to make sure things actually get done...too many conservatives hate him.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The right-wing radio guys have been going nuts claiming collusion b/w Huckabee and McCain. Not the sort of "a vote for Nader/Huckabee is a vote for George Bush/John McCain" (though they believe that, too) - but actually arguing that McCain voters are going out and voting for Huckabee in states where Romney was projected to win so as to ensure that delegates don't go to Romney.

McCain is not an ideal candidate for 'conservatives' (he must not be if I think the guy's alright), but what he represents about ideological conservatives is fantastic. The very fact that these religious extremists have been forced to embrace a PRO-CHOICE MORMON over a pro-life christian candidate in McCain (you may think Romney's Mormonism doesn't matter, but recall that in 2004 some of these same people brought up Kerry's Catholicism as evidence that he wasn't committed to christian beliefs :lol:)...well, that tells me everything about how much character they really have and how genuine they are in their beliefs.[/QUOTE]

That's what cracked me up over the past few days re: Turdbaugh, Coulter the Friendly Ghost and Beck. They fought so hard to get and defend this war, that they're willing to let the Democrats 'take the blame,' and I still don't understand why. Because he wanted to curb campaign financing? He didn't vote for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage?
 
I think what you have is a vocal minority speaking as *the* majority. If conservatives, on the whole, didn't like him, well, the primary results would be very different than yesterday and the past few weeks.

But then you have the talk radio types, whose listeners almost wholly embrace what they say no matter how ludicrous it really is - but since they're always able to be heard, it's easy to make the false conclusion that this is what a majority of Republicans think. Which is demonstrably untrue.

I think that the McCain hatred was probably a directive from the RNC (I'm not being conspiratorial, as both national committees offer talking points for pundits - it's just that the RNC does a far better job at ensuring consistency) to stave off Super Tuesday.

Once it's clear that McCain is the candidate (he's got over 50% of the delegates now, I believe), they'll go right back to embracing him as the next great inheritor of the Reagan mantle. Which he isn't, but that's what these fools think he needs to get elected.

EDIT: Cochese, I don't know why they hate McCain, unless one becomes persona non grata by sponsoring and passing bipartisan bills in Congress. They act like he's not "conservative" on issues, when Romney is by no means the "perfect" candidate either (it's also disappointing to listen to grown adults talk about the search for the candidate who matches "conservatism" on each and every issue, as it that's ideal or probable - or mature to bitch about not being able to find). And the vitriol for Huckabee is fascinating. Ultimately, someone decided Romney was to be the golden boy, and they developed a narrative after making their decision to show why they hated McCain. It's pithy post hoc'ing, plain and simple.
 
Reagan supported amnesty for illegal immigrants, increased defense spending, and increased taxes while President. Yes, in all cases he had reasons for doing so and, for the most part, they were a necessity...but he's no perfect conservative saint that the talking heads on the right want him to be. Heck, before he became President he supported abortion rights and some of the most liberal policies on same-sex couples in the country. Yet, most people forget about that.

McCain's a war hero who has a solid record that conservatives should be able to point to and an appearl to moderates because, frankly, he's not closed minded and is willing to listen to both sides and try to foster compromises. I never saw why conservatives hated him...and I'm a Conservative (capital "c" because we have a seperate party here in New York :p)
 
Reagan is not a real person anymore. He's a mythical creature who encompasses every good idea a conservative allegedly has, and supported and promoted it unanimously.

He's like the political equivalent of the way ill-informed Christians misuse Jesus' good name to argue that their behavior is, in fact, very Christ-like.

I also don't believe that Reagan raised taxes while in office, but if you have evidence to the contrary, I'm open to it.
 
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