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There's two reasons they didn't demand amnesty. One, in modern times, while there is a sizeable illegal irish population it is not unified in any real way. Two, when they was large scale immigration from italy and ireland, there was no real immigration control.

Though this whole incident is blown out of proportion. I don't know the mindset of that group. An upside down flag is a distress symbol, as if the nations principals are in trouble.

Also, you can't generalize this to the entire group, regardless of the meaning.
 
This struck me as funny...

It's time to take names and kick ass.

Let's all write the California school system and complain, I know I am.
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"Yeah, let's KICK ASS! Let's write letters and complain! I would seriously punch that guy in the FACE, but I got a Hot Pocket in the microwave."

snicker.

While I think writing a letter is a good idea, one would not quite call that taking names and kicking ass.

In the end it was a bunch of high school kids. Kids do stupid stuff, it's nothing to get huffy over.
 
I must admit, I have done quite a few high school pranks just as bad as that.

Well, actually framing a parochial school headmaster as a porn addict is probably worse, but nobody is keeping score here.

You can't prove it.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']There's two reasons they didn't demand amnesty. One, in modern times, while there is a sizeable illegal irish population it is not unified in any real way. Two, when they was large scale immigration from italy and ireland, there was no real immigration control.[/QUOTE]

Bullshit. You've never heard of Ellis Island?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Bullshit. You've never heard of Ellis Island?[/quote]

[SIZE=-1]Americans encouraged relatively free and open immigration during the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, and did not question that policy until the late 1800s...... Thus, as the number of immigrants rose in the 1880s and economic conditions in some areas worsened, Congress began to issue immigration legislation. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Alien Contract Labor laws of 1885 and 1887 prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States. The more general Immigration Act of 1882 levied a head tax of fifty cents on each immigrant and blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge. [/SIZE]
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No control on immigration, as long as you weren't (usually wrongly) classified as an idiot or criminal. Oh ya, no chinese. Oddly, being white (or black) was a requirement to become a citizen. Even in the 1920's, the supreme court ruled Singh Thind, a sikh immigrant who fought for the u.s. in WW1, was ineligable for citizenship since he was neither white nor black. There were many similar cases. One state even passed a law that anyone marrying someone ineligable for citizenship would lose their own citizenship. Though that's citizenship, not immigration.

In the 1880s, state boards or commissions enforced immigration law with direction from U.S. Treasury Department officials. At the Federal level, U.S. Customs Collectors at each port of entry collected the head tax from immigrants while "Chinese Inspectors" enforced the Chinese Exclusion Act. Congress soon expanded the list of excludable classes, and in doing so made regulation of immigration more complex. As a result, when the Immigration Act of 1891 barred polygamists, persons convicted of crimes of moral turpitude, and those suffering loathsome or contagious diseases from immigrating, it also created the Office of the Superintendent of Immigration. Located within the Treasury Department, the Superintendent oversaw a new corps of U.S. Immigrant Inspectors stationed at the United States' principal ports of entry.
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Still no control on numbers.

Under the 1891 law, the Federal Government assumed the task of inspecting, admitting, rejecting, and processing all immigrants seeking admission to the United States. The Immigration Service's first task was to collect arrival manifests (passenger lists) from each incoming ship, a responsibility of the Customs Service since 1820. Enforcing immigration law was a new Federal function, and the 1890s witnessed the Immigration Service's first attempts to implement national immigration policy.
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Ahh, the 1890's. The beginnings of modern immigration policies, right? Not quite.

While Congress continued to strengthen national immigration law with acts such as the Immigration Act of 1907, a Presidential Commission investigated the causes of massive emigration out of Southern and Eastern Europe and a Congressional Commission studied conditions among immigrants in the United States. These commission reports influenced the writing and passage of the Immigration Act of 1917, which, among other provisions, required that immigrants be able to read and write in their native language. The Immigration Service then began administering literacy tests.
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Getting there......

Passport requirements imposed by a 1918 Presidential Proclamation increased agency paperwork during immigrant inspection and deportation activities. The passport requirement also disrupted routine traffic across United States land borders with Canada and Mexico, and the Immigration Service consequently began to issue Border Crossing Cards.
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Almost.........

Mass immigration resumed after the war, and Congress responded with a new immigration policy, the national origins quota system. Established by Immigration Acts of 1921 and 1924, the system limited immigration by assigning each nationality a quota based on its representation in past United States census figures. The State Department distributed a limited number of visas each year through United States Embassies abroad, and the Immigration Service only admitted immigrants who arrived with a valid visa.
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THERE IT IS! 1921.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/history/articles/oview.htm
 
That is the first true stupid move that pro-illegal advocates could have allowed. To request amnesty/rights from a country that you show blatant disrespect to is completely wrong in any sense.

The funny part is that is that Mexican flag were upsidedown and under an upright American flag it would be an outrage and national news.
 
You might have a point with the Irish, who immigrated in the largest numbers during the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s. However, the Italians came in the largest numbers after the 1882 conrols were enacted.

http://library.thinkquest.org/20619/Italian.html

So it seems as if we are both right and both wrong.

And I never said anything about numbers. You said they came before immigration controls, and surely the 1882 act is a control.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']You might have a point with the Irish, who immigrated in the largest numbers during the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s. However, the Italians came in the largest numbers after the 1882 conrols were enacted.

http://library.thinkquest.org/20619/Italian.html

So it seems as if we are both right and both wrong.

And I never said anything about numbers. You said they came before immigration controls, and surely the 1882 act is a control.[/quote]

I said there was no real control, not 0 controls. Excluding chinese is irrelevent to the irish and italians (just continues the "americans are only white or black sentiment"). The 1882 act simply placed a tax on people. It's by no means a restriction on immigration (though, may have stopped a few very poor people), as long as you weren't considered an idiot or criminal. If 5 million showed up or 500,000 showed up, they would have passed through, assuming they weren't asian, criminal or classified as an idiot. It's not until 1921 that we get to the type of restriction that actually stops immigrants, the type that can result in sizeable illegal immigration.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I said there was no real control, not 0 controls. Excluding chinese is irrelevent to the irish and italians (just continues the "americans are only white or black sentiment"). The 1882 act simply placed a tax on people. It's by no means a restriction on immigration (though, may have stopped a few very poor people), as long as you weren't considered an idiot or criminal. If 5 million showed up or 500,000 showed up, they would have passed through, assuming they weren't asian, criminal or classified as an idiot. It's not until 1921 that we get to the type of restriction that actually stops immigrants, the type that can result in sizeable illegal immigration.[/QUOTE]

If only we kept out the idiots and criminals today!
 
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