Westboro Baptist Church to go to WV "The Dead Miners are In Hell"

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http://www.godhates$$$s.com/written/fliers/20100406_West-Virginia-25-miners-dead-in-mine-explosion.pdf

Link is to a PDF of the flier for the event. I don't see this ending well for any involved party.

Edit: CAG is filtering a word in the URL. Just think of a horrible thing say to homosexuals or an English Cigarette.
 
Yeah, those losers did the same thing with the mine collapse in Sago, WV (very close to where I grew up) a few years back.

Unfortunately, as we discussed in the Kansas thread recently, not much that can be done about it is they know the laws and stay with in them while doing their offensive protests.
 
I'm at work so I don't want to put the URL in so what are they protesting?

Are they assuming that all of the miners are gay and now in hell?
 
No - they do this all the time. Tragedies in the US are, to them, evidence of God enacting his wrath on the US for attempts at normalizing or legalizing homosexuality. No matter how disconnected from homosexuality the tragedy might be.

Phelps and the WBC, at this point, ought to be ignored. I mean completely ignored. There's no other way to eliminate them.
 
I support Phelps going into the boondocks of dmaul's childhood and proclaim the miners are rotting in hell. Then, I wouldn't have to ignore them.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']No - they do this all the time. Tragedies in the US are, to them, evidence of God enacting his wrath on the US for attempts at normalizing or legalizing homosexuality. No matter how disconnected from homosexuality the tragedy might be.

Phelps and the WBC, at this point, ought to be ignored. I mean completely ignored. There's no other way to eliminate them.[/QUOTE]

fully agree
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Phelps and the WBC, at this point, ought to be ignored. I mean completely ignored. There's no other way to eliminate them.[/QUOTE]

Can we get about 100 people and, while they're protesting, build a brick wall all around them? How fast do you think we could get it done?
 
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I'm sorry, but I really laughed out loud at the "God Blew Up the Shuttle" sign. I know it's not an ironic hipster sign like when those folks in SF trolled WBC's protest of Twitter, but it still makes me go "uh, what?"
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I hate seeing kids doing shit like that, they probably don't even know what they're saying.[/QUOTE]

They can spout off all the anti-gay rhetoric though. That was one of the more disturbing parts of the "Fall From Grace" documentary about the WBC. Seeing how indoctrinated the kids were and the things they said to interviewers about gays etc.

The doc is still on netflix instant watch for any interested in it.
 
I just heard they are coming to Tampa to protest the Bon Jovi concert on April 17th. I might go out there and protest with them against Bon Jovi.

"God Hates Bon Jovi"
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']OK. So we need 102 people now?[/QUOTE]

Lmao. It's like a "screw in the lightbulb" joke, but with cocks.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']1) Phelps family are practicing attorneys
[/QUOTE]

Ok, what type of sick fuck would hire these people to do law work for them?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Kansans.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I wonder if it is possible to Lexis their names for clients and then protest these individuals. Or the businesses they work at.
 
[quote name='depascal22']I'm at work so I don't want to put the URL in so what are they protesting?
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It doesn't matter. It used to be they would just protest funerals that involved homosexuality to some degree whether it be a homosexual who died (ie Matthew Shephard), someone involved in gay rights, etc. My theory is they branched out once it became expected that they'd show up at these types of funerals and it stopped being reported on. So, they came up with flimsy reasoning to start protesting military funerals, and now it just seems they'll protest any funeral which is going to get media coverage. Basically, they just want to get into the spotlight no matter what.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Bullshit.[/QUOTE]

You misunderstand. I'm suggesting God is pro-Batman, as all just deities would be.
 
They may end up gettin the hell beat out of them West Virginia don't put up with that stuff alot of people lost family in that explosin and I lost a couple of friends in it and I hear they are here now so they'd better watch...:shame:
 
Yeah, WV is REAL tough.

But seriously, I don't know how they haven't gotten the shit kicked out of them yet. If they showed up at anyone's funeral that I was in attendance at, I would fight anyone holding a sign, even a child. This is the ultimate in disrespect.
 
If I was ever going to snap and go on a killing spree, I think I know my target. I don't understand why people go for schools and shit when people like this are out there.
 
Yep, they'd just get a bunch of money out of it. They're dying for an assault so they can sue.

And again, they did the same thing in the Sago mine tragedy in WV a few years ago and no one got assaulted then. They had enough police presence to prevent it, so I assume the same will happen.

Sucks to have to waste public resources to protect them, but if the cops due nothing then they can sue the city/state for not providing adequate protection and allowing them to be assaulted.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yep, they'd just get a bunch of money out of it. They're dying for an assault so they can sue.

And again, they did the same thing in the Sago mine tragedy in WV a few years ago and no one got assaulted then. They had enough police presence to prevent it, so I assume the same will happen.

Sucks to have to waste public resources to protect them, but if the cops due nothing then they can sue the city/state for not providing adequate protection and allowing them to be assaulted.[/QUOTE]

If you are planning a protest with the *goal* of pissing people off, it shouldn't be the state/cities fault. You knowingly did something completely fucking retarded.

Hint: You don't put your head in the mouth of a starving lion. People would say you are nuts and know you will lose it. Same thing here. The police and government need to step out of this bullshit sometime and let natural selection take it's course. Let's see which "God" they answer to, I'm hoping Baphomet.
 
[quote name='georox']If you are planning a protest with the *goal* of pissing people off, it shouldn't be the state/cities fault. You knowingly did something completely fucking retarded.

Hint: You don't put your head in the mouth of a starving lion. People would say you are nuts and know you will lose it. Same thing here. The police and government need to step out of this bullshit sometime and let natural selection take it's course. Let's see which "God" they answer to, I'm hoping Baphomet.[/QUOTE]

I agree. fuck free speech. If you say something I don't like, I should be able to assault you and the cops should turn a blind eye as I work you over.

God Bless America!
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I agree. fuck free speech. If you say something I don't like, I should be able to assault you and the cops should turn a blind eye as I work you over.

America![/QUOTE]

Seriously, there is a difference between free speech and instigating a riot. Free speech is limited for a reason. You can't do things that will cause harm/etc. and what they aim to do is to cause problems and harm. Most protesters don't go out with the hopes that somebody starts shit so they can sue them. That's not free speech, that's being a fuckwad.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I agree. fuck free speech. If you say something I don't like, I should be able to assault you and the cops should turn a blind eye as I work you over.

God Bless America![/QUOTE]

The legal system shouldn't turn a blind eye. People should be prosecuted for assault if they attack them.

But the city shouldn't be required to provide legal protection--thus pulling police from other tasks--to provide security to keep it from happening in the first place. If they get attack, then yes, do investigations and prosecute those who attack them.

But don't waste taxpayer resources providing a lot of security to keep it from happening in the first place IMO.
 
[quote name='georox']Seriously, there is a difference between free speech and instigating a riot. Free speech is limited for a reason. You can't do things that will cause harm/etc. and what they aim to do is to cause problems and harm. Most protesters don't go out with the hopes that somebody starts shit so they can sue them. That's not free speech, that's being a fuckwad.[/QUOTE]

Free speech is not limited, they are within the law to do what they are doing and they have the right to not be assaulted while expressing themselves even if you (and most of America) think what they are doing is in bad taste.

Or should we bust out the water cannons and german shepherds?
 
There is never a good reason to limit speech, unless it's directly inciting violence against others. Taunting people to attack you doesn't count.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Free speech is not limited, they are within the law to do what they are doing and they have the right to not be assaulted while expressing themselves even if you (and most of America) think what they are doing is in bad taste.

Or should we bust out the water cannons and german shepherds?[/QUOTE]

Free speech is limited. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#United_States

I know wiki isn't the best source, but I'm not wasting my time to find something decent for a person who is going to feign stupidity to protect some bullshit amendment that means nothing anymore.

You can't yell fire in a theater. You get arrested. You don't have free speech.

You can't go up to a police officer and tell them you are going to kill them. You get arrested. You don't have free speech.

If you start screaming bomb...

You get the idea. Free speech is limited to the point that you can't hide behind a document to cause harm/distress to others. What this group of jackasses is doing is borderlining that. Claiming people can say anything they want is one of the worst things a person can do. I am all for freedoms, but not all people are equal. It's not the case. Charles Manson is not equal to MLK. Dennis Rader is not the same as Jimmy Carter, and so forth. Some people do not deserve their "rights." You can try to protect these people all you want, but it does not make you a better person, nor a more patriotic person, it makes you a person who seeks to harm humanity and this nation.
 
I wonder what would happen if people did start getting violent when these people show up. If it happened enough and in enough places, if they basically had a reputation for causing violence.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Free speech is not limited, they are within the law to do what they are doing and they have the right to not be assaulted while expressing themselves even if you (and most of America) think what they are doing is in bad taste.
[/QUOTE]

But that doesn't mean cities/states should be under obligation to provide them with a personal security detail to make sure they aren't assaulted, else face big law suits.

Most police departments are already understaffed, facing budget shortfalls etc. Having to provide essentially personal security is just pulling cops off patrol, requiring overtime shifts etc.

They 100% have to intervene if something happens, and prosecute any wrong doings. Maybe should have one cop in the area so they have a presence on the scene. But I've seen times where there are several cops there making sure nothing happens, and that's just a waste of public resources when the group is trying to rile people up and hoping to get assaulted so they can sue.
 
[quote name='georox']Free speech is limited. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#United_States

I know wiki isn't the best source, but I'm not wasting my time to find something decent for a person who is going to feign stupidity to protect some bullshit amendment that means nothing anymore.

You can't yell fire in a theater. You get arrested. You don't have free speech.

You can't go up to a police officer and tell them you are going to kill them. You get arrested. You don't have free speech.

If you start screaming bomb...

You get the idea. Free speech is limited to the point that you can't hide behind a document to cause harm/distress to others. What this group of jackasses is doing is borderlining that. Claiming people can say anything they want is one of the worst things a person can do. I am all for freedoms, but not all people are equal. It's not the case. Charles Manson is not equal to MLK. Dennis Rader is not the same as Jimmy Carter, and so forth. Some people do not deserve their "rights." You can try to protect these people all you want, but it does not make you a better person, nor a more patriotic person, it makes you a person who seeks to harm humanity and this nation.[/QUOTE]

I suggest you actually read the wiki page on the phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

Holmes, writing for a unanimous majority, ruled that it was illegal to distribute flyers opposing the draft during World War I. Holmes argued this abridgment of free speech was permissible because it presented a "clear and present danger" to the government's recruitment efforts for the war.

(...)

The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact. Despite Schenck being limited, the phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater" has since come to be known as synonymous with an action that the speaker believes goes beyond the rights guaranteed by free speech, reckless or malicious speech, or an action whose outcomes are blatantly obvious.
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Also lol

[quote name='georox']Some people do not deserve their "rights."[/QUOTE]

I agree. Let's start with those dirty minorities and jews. They don't deserve rights. They are sub-human.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']But that doesn't mean cities/states should be under obligation to provide them with a personal security detail to make sure they aren't assaulted, else face big law suits.

Most police departments are already understaffed, facing budget shortfalls etc. Having to provide essentially personal security is just pulling cops off patrol, requiring overtime shifts etc.

They 100% have to intervene if something happens, and prosecute any wrong doings. Maybe should have one cop in the area so they have a presence on the scene. But I've seen times where there are several cops there making sure nothing happens, and that's just a waste of public resources when the group is trying to rile people up and hoping to get assaulted so they can sue.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. If I am going to stand on a corner and shout things I know most people will get really upset about, I don't get to expect police to come guard me. I am taking my chances. If someone tries to kick my ass, then someone can then call the police, but I should have known the risk in the first place.

Free speech is protected. That doesn't mean you get free bodyguards when you decide to use it.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Ok, what type of sick fuck would hire these people to do law work for them?[/QUOTE]

I dont know, but I'll bet they wouldn't have to search too far for a lawyer to defend them.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']And then they would get a bunch of money out of it.[/QUOTE]

If a private citizen assaults somebody, you can sue them, but not the local government.

Since it is WV, the average private citizen has what? 5 dollars net worth?
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']If a private citizen assaults somebody, you can sue them, but not the local government.

Since it is WV, the average private citizen has what? 5 dollars net worth?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if your gunna punch these people in the face, hide your assets first.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']If a private citizen assaults somebody, you can sue them, but not the local government.

Since it is WV, the average private citizen has what? 5 dollars net worth?[/QUOTE]

That's not stopping an award well above a person's means. We all know a lot of lawsuits are big amounts the person' can't afford.

But they'd probably get their money as people would end up making donations to cover the suit, court costs etc.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']But that doesn't mean cities/states should be under obligation to provide them with a personal security detail to make sure they aren't assaulted, else face big law suits.

Most police departments are already understaffed, facing budget shortfalls etc. Having to provide essentially personal security is just pulling cops off patrol, requiring overtime shifts etc.

They 100% have to intervene if something happens, and prosecute any wrong doings. Maybe should have one cop in the area so they have a presence on the scene. But I've seen times where there are several cops there making sure nothing happens, and that's just a waste of public resources when the group is trying to rile people up and hoping to get assaulted so they can sue.[/QUOTE]

It isn't like they only do it for the Westboro Baptist Church or the KKK, they do the same thing for gay parades/tea parties/big events. I would much rather have cops on the scene than people thinking they can fuck people up they disagree with and run before the cops show up.

I really think that the Westboro Church is a brilliant troll in proving that things have to go two ways.
 
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