We've Got it (XBOX360 pic)

[quote name='Ozzkev55']Hmm...The Plot Thickens[/QUOTE]

Memory Card, perhaps? Xbox were 32MB, so 64 would be a reasonable improvement. EDIT: Read the first post, so now I'm aware of being redundant.

However, the need for memory cards seems to confirm that the HDD will be optional; with that in mind, I hope games continue to offer features such as custom soundtracks, downloadable updates, etc. If the HDD is optional, it removes (somewhat) the interest in utilizing a product that not all Xbox users have.

myke.
 
Again I'd like to point out nobody has proven anything in terms of it being "fake". The "good" photo of the Xbox 360 is clearly a picture to be used by the marketing department from magazine ads to hand outs. All these types of images go threw clean up to present the most apealing image. This includes doing things like having multipe light sources and other type of work done on the image. They don't just take out a digital camera and take a photo for those type of things. I think the high res of the image and evreything else about it makes it to be almost a 100% sure thing. It's not some granny pic from some secret bull crap spy or something. This seems to be simply documents being readed for E3 to be given away and put into magazine and somebody either leaked them to the internet or they were released on purpose my Microsoft to creat buzz.

ps sorry for the horrible spelling.
 
[quote name='generalpatton71']Again I'd like to point out nobody has proven anything in terms of it being "fake". The "good" photo of the Xbox 360 is clearly a picture to be used by the marketing department from magazine ads to hand outs. All these types of images go threw clean up to present the most apealing image. This includes doing things like having multipe light sources and other type of work done on the image. They don't just take out a digital camera and take a photo for those type of things. I think the high res of the image and evreything else about it makes it to be almost a 100% sure thing. It's not some granny pic from some secret bull crap spy or something. This seems to be simply documents being readed for E3 to be given away and put into magazine and somebody either leaked them to the internet or they were released on purpose my Microsoft to creat buzz.

ps sorry for the horrible spelling.[/QUOTE]
i know multiple light sources are used, but the colors of the surface did not change in harmony with the colors, they stayed mostly unchanged, save a fiew glimmers in the xbox360 logo
 
I wanted to comment about a few things.. I wish they'd stop teasing and just show us or don't.. Its not coming out till Nov I really don't care until then...

First off about all the "racing" games set at launch.. that doesn't mean there won't be a lot more game at launch (hell, the xbox is mostly for FPS and Racing anyways, save a few RPGs and action titles) . it would be suicide for XB360 not to be BW compatable. (you're telling me that it can't emulate the hardware? especially since its using a modified more powerful mac design, it should be able to .. it can, just needs to be worked into the system) The HD is a must for online gaming, its been said time and time again by developers and speculators. wireless controllers sound cool. but that never really made a difference to me anyway.)
 
[quote name='urzishra14'](you're telling me that it can't emulate the hardware? especially since its using a modified more powerful mac design, it should be able to .. it can, just needs to be worked into the system)[/QUOTE]

Have you seen how Virtual PC performs on any given Mac? Even though the program is used for emulating Windows environments, given the hardware setup of the Xbox, it wouldn't surprise me if the program could be customized to run Xbox software.

myke.
...though, given it's speed, that's a frightening thought. Where's epobirs with the "tell you how it really is" that this topic's been sorely lacking?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, Microsoft has 49% equity in Apple, so they aren't strictly competition (though the cynics claim that MS did so to keep Apple afloat, and to help their cause against the antitrust suit they began undergoing at the time).

Perhaps the chipset for 360 is more powerful, or cheaper (or a combination of the two). The truth is, I have no idea why.

myke.[/QUOTE]

What alternate universe are you posting from? Microsoft had, had as in long since sold off, $160 million in NON-VOTING shares in Apple. Since the company's stock valuation at the was substantially greater than $1 billion, this purchase was a tiny block that would offer little leverage even if it granted voting rights.

The anti-trust issues had been going on since the early 90's. The second round was already well under when the Apple stock purchase occur. It was nothing more than a friendly gesture. Microsoft had plenty of reason not to want Apple to go away including the fact that Microsoft has consistently made more money on selling Mac software than any other company including Apple itself. Office for Mac was a profitable business even while Apple was losing money.

As for the use of PPC in the 360, it's very simple. IBM made MS the best offer on a custome device to meet the needs of what they wanted their next console to be. Microsoft adapted the PC architecture last time due to time constraints. Using that with their existing OS and API code base was the fastest way to get Xbox to market. Otherwise they would have been pretty much shut out of the current generation. On the downside this meant having to buy chips from companies that had neither the time nor the inclination to do much customisation for Microsoft's needs. As a result the Xbox has a lot of costly functionality that is wasted in a game console. Hackers love it but it makes the product bulky and expensive compared to the competition.

Microsoft had much more time to plan for the next generation. IBM's PPC products offered the best combination of price and performance. Other CPU products out there haven't been moving in the direction suited to game consoles. This is why Sony abandoned MIPS after two generations to have PPC as the controlling processor core in the Cell design.

This version of PPC is a major departure from current desktop CPUs. It delivers a lot of performance at low cost but at the requirement of much greater code optimization and the use of techniques that are foreign to most game developers. Neither IBM or AMD could expect to see enough business from a game console, which would by necessity be low margin, to make it worth their time to produce such a major deviation from their desktop and server CPU roadmap.

when it comes down to it there really isn't another big semiconductor company in the world with the motive, ability, IP, and production capacity to match IBM for this job.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Have you seen how Virtual PC performs on any given Mac? Even though the program is used for emulating Windows environments, given the hardware setup of the Xbox, it wouldn't surprise me if the program could be customized to run Xbox software.

myke.
...though, given it's speed, that's a frightening thought. Where's epobirs with the "tell you how it really is" that this topic's been sorely lacking?[/QUOTE]

I'd been planning to cover it at length in another thread but keep getting distracted by other stuff. I have to leave for a job interview but suffice to say, Virtual PC is not a good measure of how an Xbox emulator on Xbox 360 would work. The console version would have major advantages that make the task doable.
 
Memory card that blows! I hope they do have 2 versions for sale now because i really want a hard drive in mine. How are you gonna take a step backward just to hold system prices down?
 
[quote name='$hady']Memory card that blows! I hope they do have 2 versions for sale now because i really want a hard drive in mine. How are you gonna take a step backward just to hold system prices down?[/QUOTE]
only a week or so till we find out
 
[quote name='$hady']Memory card that blows! I hope they do have 2 versions for sale now because i really want a hard drive in mine. How are you gonna take a step backward just to hold system prices down?[/QUOTE]

There will be an optional HD, or so I have heard, but if there's no memory card = drop in piracy..
 
There's some interesting reading to be had here, but it's way too damn late for me to be doing reading. So I put a dog ear on this. Ooohhh...I see the sun is rising off in the east already.
 
CONFIRMED FROM TAPING OF MTV SHOW IN HOLLYWOOD

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