What do you think happens when you die?

[quote name='RedvsBlue']Wierd I was just thinking about this like 2 days ago. I guess I'm a little scared of death but more than anything I'll be sad about my own death. I mean I'm only 21 and I have so many precious memories that I look back on and smile and enjoy. If I just stop existing those memories end with me. Its just so final.

Another thing is that I'm such a curious person I can't wait to know what's out there. I want to know what will happen with our race. Will it end? Where are we going? Also I find it depressing that more than likely I'll never be able to leave this planet. Maybe I'll get to go to space if those commercial space vacations that they keep talking about ever happen but I'll probably never be able to stand on another planet and see how amazing and different it can be. I hate thinking that no matter what I do there are certain things I'll never be able to do in my lifetime.[/quote]

This is exactly how I feel.

"The faster death goes, the faster evolution goes" - Annie Dillard in Fecundity

That's just how the world works. It is death that spins the globe.
 
yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
 
Religion may help strengthen moral values but I don't think that the the two are inseparably bound. If that was the case than you couldn't explain morality in animals especially chimps and other social primates. Even more obivious is the sense of morality atheist feel or live by.
 
That's true. Just because your a moral person doesn't mean you are religious.... and just because you are religious doesn't make you moral.

In fact, I find nothing more disgusting than those who are relgious and ammoral, yet use thier religion as a shield.
 
atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this pisses me off.
 
like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM
 
[quote name='Southberm']like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM[/quote]

thats sorta funny that you have eric "you god damn jew" cartman as your avatar.
 
[quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='yogi99']I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.[/quote]

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).[/quote]
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin'][quote name='Southberm']like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM[/quote]

thats sorta funny that you have eric "you god damn jew" cartman as your avatar.[/quote]
yea i no how ironic. Whatever cartman is still funnier than homer simpson, and peter griffin and all those other alpha male animated characters.
 
No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.
 
then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle ages
 
[quote name='jdevlin7756']yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi[/quote]

Not all Communist states are Atheist.
 
[quote name='Southberm']then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle east[/quote]

That would be:
1. Forced into slavery by the greater military power of the Egyptians.
2. Forced from thier new land by Roman Conquerors.
3. Became a large displaced group taking up residence in many other european and middle eastern countries.

The reason for this would be: Greed, Lust for power, and many other ills from the conquerors and the majority populations in the areas the displaced Jews took up residence. To say that the Jewish were hated in Europe and the Middle East only because of thier religion is trivializing a very difficult subject.
 
[quote name='SolinariDotCom'][quote name='jdevlin7756']yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi[/quote]

Not all Communist states are Atheist.[/quote]

Then they aren't communist states, they are theocracies. One of the tenants of Marxist Communism is that religion is the "opiate of the masses".
 
[quote name='Southberm']then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle east[/quote]I don't think any religion promotes violence against any other group of peoples. The reason for violence against the Jews during the time of the Egyptians may have something to do with control. At that time the government of Egypt was centered around a religion which placed the pharoh in control. If the Egyptians allowed another religion to thrive it could upset the control the pharoh held over its people. As with most governments that claim power through a divine source, religious tolerance is not something they practice to often. It has nothing to do with the religion but rather with the people in power.
 
[quote name='Southberm']sry i meant christians in the middle ages[/quote]

Even then, it is not so trivial a case to say it was all "based on religion". You know, you'd be much better off if you got your history lessons from sources other that South Park's satire of "The Passion".
 
[quote name='dcfox'][quote name='Southberm']then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle east[/quote]I don't think any religion promotes violence against any other group of peoples. The reason for violence against the Jews during the time of the Egyptians may have something to do with control. At that time the government of Egypt was centered around a religion which placed the pharoh in control. If the Egyptians allowed another religion to thrive it could upset the control the pharoh held over its people. As with most governments that claim power through a divine source, religious tolerance is not something they practice to often. It has nothing to do with the religion but rather with the people in power.[/quote]

Yes.. it would be even more pronounced in the Egyptian society.. because monarchs weren't ruling by devine right (the belief that God made them the monarch) but rather under the idea that the pharoh was god.
 
Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']you get buried in the ground and the worms eat your rotting flesh. people move on, you turn to dust. endless cycle. nothing happens. it just ends.[/quote]

This is why I am getting cremated. I think I want my ashes spread into the desert and given back to Shai-Halud.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='SolinariDotCom'][quote name='jdevlin7756']yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi[/quote]

Not all Communist states are Atheist.[/quote]

Then they aren't communist states, they are theocracies. One of the tenants of Marxist Communism is that religion is the "opiate of the masses".[/quote]

Communism sounds pretty good in an ideal world - it's not my fault people are too weak. (Take note that the latter comment doesn't directly refer to the former comment - in fact, it refers to religion specifically and not "communism")
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.[/quote]

As a member of a minority group I understand the need to know past grievances and appreciate hardships endured by those who came before us. But you're right in saying that dwelling on history does not serve in anyone's best interest.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this pisses me off.[/quote]

See, shit like that website your link goes to is what makes me think heaven and hell or even God don't exist. I have no idea how many times I've used God's name in a cuss word or anger. Hell, I was even stupid enough to blame him for my misfortunes and cuss at him directly. I've lusted at women, been jealous, stole, and some of those other things. I'm only 12, and by what I see, I'm supposed to go to hell. So how many ppl do you think are in heaven when those rules apply, huh? I think God has either become more leniant or there about one million ppl in heaven, which isn't alot since the start of humanity.

[quote name='Southberm'][quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='yogi99']I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.[/quote]

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).[/quote]
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?[/quote]

Double check quotes before you are so quick to make conclusions, look at the bold lettering in my quote you contradicted.

[quote name='JSweeney']No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.[/quote]

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.
 
That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

I disagree. It's the bastardization of those beliefs that is used for that justification. The beliefs themselves are not wrong... it's those taking them out of context for thier own uses that are wrong.
 
[quote name='dcfox'][quote name='JSweeney']Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.[/quote]

As a member of a minority group I understand the need to know past grievances and appreciate hardships endured by those who came before us. But you're right in saying that dwelling on history does not serve in anyone's best interest.[/quote]

Yes. It is probably best that I clarify that. It's very important for everyone to have a knowledge of the past, and be able to understand the hardships endured by all, as thier missteps show us how to act in a manner that better serves us all.

That said, I've never understood exactly why it's ok to make fun of the mistreatment and past of some groups, yet taboo to mention others?
 
[quote name='JSweeney']That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

I disagree. It's the bastardization of those beliefs that is used for that justification. The beliefs themselves are not wrong... it's those taking them out of context for thier own uses that are wrong.[/quote]

Uh, I'm trying to understand that post, kinda complicated. If I'm understanding you, you're saying that, um, I withdraw from this discussion, I'm not fully understanding it.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='XboxMaster']I'm only 12...[/quote]

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.[/quote]

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.
 
Check out Alanwatts.com

Read some of his literature. Its just plain common sense.

As for where you go?...? You're already everywhere, so wherever you imagine, you should arrive.

I think if you beleive in God, and heaven, thats where you'll be willed to.

If you beleive in reincarnation, you may have your pick of the litter.

Its kinda like "What Dreams May Come", but not so fixated, and a little more convincing.

Too bad we're all the same. I guess thats why this game is so fun.
Finding the nostalgia, amongst all of ourselves, to create the sense of re-meshing again.

See you later god, and you too,..god.
 
[quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='XboxMaster']I'm only 12...[/quote]

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.[/quote]

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.[/quote]

If I'm not mistaken, you were the one bitching about people being technical advisors. Also, what WSB does is hardly bitching, its generally making humorous observations and commenting on them. Whats a 12 year-old? 5th grade, 6th grade? That would be about the age where you wouldn't say anything like this to people in person, but put on the internet, you use anonymity as a shield to hide behind. This is one of the reasons I can't stand pre-pubescent kids making annoying posts.
 
I hope XboxMaster followed the Underage user process for getting a user account... because you know that CheapyD is going to see this now... and he's not going to play around when he's coming up againt COPPA.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='XboxMaster']I'm only 12...[/quote]

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.[/quote]
Its about time this topic got some levity :D
 
[quote name='st0neface'][quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='XboxMaster']I'm only 12...[/quote]

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.[/quote]

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.[/quote]

If I'm not mistaken, you were the one bitching about people being technical advisors. Also, what WSB does is hardly bitching, its generally making humorous observations and commenting on them. Whats a 12 year-old? 5th grade, 6th grade? That would be about the age where you wouldn't say anything like this to people in person, but put on the internet, you use anonymity as a shield to hide behind. This is one of the reasons I can't stand pre-pubescent kids making annoying posts.[/quote]

Take a look at that Technical Advisors thread again, I clerified my posts on that thread.

Anyway, it's 7th grade and I wouldn't be posting "annoying" posts if WBS hadn't brought out the fact that I was 12 and used it against me. Since that post, I had been contributing to the main subject of this thread, the opinion of where you go when you die. And I was enjoying having an intelligent back and forth conversation with JSweeny, till it was screwed up.
 
[quote name='XboxMaster']Anyway, it's 7th grade and I wouldn't be posting "annoying" posts if WBS hadn't brought out the fact that I was 12 and used it against me. Since that post, I had been contributing to the main subject of this thread, the opinion of where you go when you die. And I was enjoying having an intelligent back and forth conversation with JSweeny, till it was screwed up.[/quote]

Brought out the fact and used it against you? You're the one who posted it originally, dumbass!

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122346&highlight=#122346

[quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='SneakyPenguin']atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this pisses me off.[/quote]

See, shit like that website your link goes to is what makes me think heaven and hell or even God don't exist. I have no idea how many times I've used God's name in a cuss word or anger. Hell, I was even stupid enough to blame him for my misfortunes and cuss at him directly. I've lusted at women, been jealous, stole, and some of those other things. I'm only 12, and by what I see, I'm supposed to go to hell. So how many ppl do you think are in heaven when those rules apply, huh? I think God has either become more leniant or there about one million ppl in heaven, which isn't alot since the start of humanity.

[quote name='Southberm'][quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='yogi99']I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.[/quote]

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).[/quote]
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?[/quote]

Double check quotes before you are so quick to make conclusions, look at the bold lettering in my quote you contradicted.

[quote name='JSweeney']No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.[/quote]

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.[/quote]
 
[quote name='6669']Well, when i die, I just go to the main menu and load my game[/quote]

Or if you're a pc gamer you could always do quick load. Personally I avoid death altogether and play with god mode on.
 
When you die you log out from this world. I believe no matter what religion you believe in when you die you go to whatever place you are suppose to go. I believe there are natural laws governing everything in the Universe and those laws holds no matter what you believe in. For example, gravity holds whether you believe in it or not. I agree with Xboxmaster that not many people are going to Heaven because most people are sinful one way or the other.
 
i think that if people are a generally good person, based on the morals of life, not the morals of any religion, then the ideal afterlife would be a personal heaven. cause i always wondered, would a masochist enjoy heaven? a personal heaven/hell would be more appropriate. but i believe in non-existence after death, so this is just wishful thinking.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Has anyone read Piers Anthony's On A Pale Horse?[/quote]

No, but I read Piers Anthony Killobite. That shit was weird.
 
Getting back on this topic...

This is an extremely controversial topic so anything said here should not be taken personally or in an offensive light. Everyone has the right to have their own opinions about religion, this is actually one of the most controversial issues available (not including politics, war, abortion, etc)

I really don't know what would happen when you die. I believe that this planet was made for human beings to enjoy, a chance to survive and have a wonderful and happy life. No one really knows the truth about reincarnation or being reborn, because no one is around to tell us. Many have claimed that they have seen a "white light" because these people have been revived from some kind of hospital and furtively argue that there is such thing as a God, for Christians, anyways.
I believe that if you were a truly good person, you did more right then wrong in your life, and you had a kind, modest soul, and you didn't mean to do wrong or bad, you will be rewarded in some kind of way either during your life or "after".
I believe that if you are a truly bad person, such as raping innocent babies, slaughtering people, and have an evil soul, meaning to do much more bad then good, that you will pay in some kind of way, either during your life or "after".
No one can know for sure, but I belive that because goodness should be justified in another way then self-reward if you made an effort to be the best person you can be.
All controversial opinions aside, I didn't mean to offend anyone in my statement, its just simply what I believe.
 
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