What is Ron Paul doing with all that money?

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Honestly, he broke the 24 hour money record several times, and was rumoured to have "earned" the most money in the fourth quarter of 2007. What is he using it on? I got a phone call by someone saying he supports the troops at home, but it wasn't by him. Why no TV ads? Why no nothing? He has the money, go spend it!
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']he's going to pay for levelone's brainwashing[/quote]

Pay for it? Why would you pay for something that's free? :p
 
Which means that, any day now, he's going to break out of his last place primary streak. Second last, watch out! Ron Paul's coming! And he's bringing the North American Superhighway protesters with him!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Which means that, any day now, he's going to break out of his last place primary streak. Second last, watch out! Ron Paul's coming! And he's bringing the North American Superhighway protesters with him![/quote]

I've been saying this since day one. I've been saying all of this and more since the internet nominated elected bowed down to him as their supreme president, commander, and ruler.

It was also pretty funny to watch when you argue with any Ron Paul supporter on the net. My favorite, he came second in Nevada..... with 5% of the vote and something like 5000 votes:lol:. My argument, great, that just means that 95% don't like him. Plus, practically nobody went out for the Republican caucuses out here and he sort of campaigned here.
 
[quote name='SpazX']There was a pretty good article on factcheck today about some of Paul's stances: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/wrong_paul.html

They had been largely ignoring him before since he didn't really stand a chance, but they had gotten so many emails about him that they decided to write a short article.[/quote]

Joe Miller
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Staff Writer, Annenberg Political Fact Check​

Joe Miller earned his BA in philosophy from Hampden-Sydney College, his MA in philosophy from Virginia Tech, and his PhD in political philosophy from the University of Virginia. He joined the Annenberg Public Policy Center in April, 2007 after working as a writer with the Mack/Crounse Group. Previously he was an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the United States Military Academy and at the University of North Carolina at Pembroke and a Visiting Fellow at the Callaghan Centre for Conflict Studies at the University of Wales at Swansea.

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The Callaghan Centre is an interdisciplinary research centre whose objective is to facilitate, co-ordinate and financially support the study of conflict. It seeks to foster detailed research and informed debate on international conflict, both historical and contemporary. It does this both through its programme of research and conferences and though the education and training activities represented by the Undergraduate, Masters and Doctoral programmes in War and Society.
 
What, is this fuckin' Scientology now, where y'all don't even address the points brought up and merely attack the person writing the piece?

Is Prison Planet gonna issue an SP Declare on Joe Miller, too?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']What, is this fuckin' Scientology now, where y'all don't even address the points brought up and merely attack the person writing the piece?

Is Prison Planet gonna issue an SP Declare on Joe Miller, too?[/QUOTE]

Speaking of scientology, Ron Paul actually has ties to the CCHR, a Scientology front group.
 
Better yet, tell me why the hell anybody is still talking about fucking Ron Paul. I'm sick of hearing about this guy.

Lets go start a thread about Bob Dole while we're at it.

I hate you.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Tell me more about these ties, please.[/quote]

When Ron Paul was backstage during his appearance on Jay Leno, this guy approached Paul and said that he admires his stance on the "forced inoculation" issue.

Ron Paul had no clue who that guy was, later to find out it was Tom Cruise. (*quick! cue the Mission Impossible music*)

That same night on Leno, Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistols gave a shout out to Ron Paul.

What can I say? The Freedom Message transcends all boundaries....

The military also support Ron Paul.

http://infowars.net/articles/february2008/150208RPaul.htm
 
[quote name='level1online']The military also support Ron Paul.

http://infowars.net/articles/february2008/150208RPaul.htm[/QUOTE]

Just b/c Ron Paul's top three contributing groups are military doesn't mean shit when the Alex Jones comparison is "the other candidates top three aren't military related!"

Let alone the fact that they're a bit secretive in how they determine what these 'military PACs' are composed of.

Besides, Ron Paul's #1 contributer surely gave less than any REAL candidate's #75. ;)

And being against mandatory vaccines is a good idea? Sheeit, if only Ron Paul was around during Polio. That would have gone over like GANGBUSTERS in those days. :roll:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Just b/c Ron Paul's top three contributing groups are military doesn't mean shit when the Alex Jones comparison is "the other candidates top three aren't military related!"

Let alone the fact that they're a bit secretive in how they determine what these 'military PACs' are composed of.

Besides, Ron Paul's #1 contributer surely gave less than any REAL candidate's #75. ;)

And being against mandatory vaccines is a good idea? Sheeit, if only Ron Paul was around during Polio. That would have gone over like GANGBUSTERS in those days. :roll:[/quote]

Polio was actually on the decline by the time the vaccine for it was developed and mass distributed.

But hey, the history books in public school will never mention that little tid-bit of information.
 
[quote name='Mike23']You tell me it's the institution, well, you know... ;)

Well, I'm personally convinced that Ron Paul has found a major loophole in campaign financing laws.

Here's one good example: http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/12/paul_blimp

While maybe not explicitly illegal, it certainly violates the spirit of finance laws.[/quote]


What part of "The Ron Paul Blimp and Liberty Political Advertising are not affiliated with the official Ron Paul Campaign in anyway." does wired.com not understand?

Regular people can do whatever they want with their own money, it's called FREEDOM.

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Let's say you started a website, on your own accord, without the help or motivation from anyone. Called it "Let's raise money for cancer awareness."

Now, a few hundred people came across your site, on their own accord, & paypal you a couple million dollars.

Then, with that money, you buy blimps for Cancer Awareness.

And then paypal comes along and says "Hey, that's a loophole! Let those cancer patients fend for themselves & raise their own money for cancer awareness blimps!!! You must refund the money!"

See how wrong that is?

Anyways, Mitt Romney was buying up shares left and right of Clear Channel Communications. But noooooo..... Limbaugh would never bring that up while he was bashing McCain.... perhaps because he realized Romney was his new boss.


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Just a tip, whenever you come across these hit pieces on the internet, always read the comments or feedback.
 
[quote name='level1online']What part of "The Ron Paul Blimp and Liberty Political Advertising are not affiliated with the official Ron Paul Campaign in anyway." does wired.com not understand?

Regular people can do whatever they want with their own money, it's called FREEDOM.

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Let's say you started a website, on your own accord, without the help or motivation from anyone. Called it "Let's raise money for cancer awareness."

Now, a few hundred people came across your site, on their own accord, & paypal you a couple million dollars.

Then, with that money, you buy blimps for Cancer Awareness.

And then paypal comes along and says "Hey, that's a loophole! Let those cancer patients fend for themselves & raise their own money for cancer awareness blimps!!! You must refund the money!"

See how wrong that is?

Anyways, Mitt Romney was buying up shares left and right of Clear Channel Communications. But noooooo..... Limbaugh would never bring that up while he was bashing McCain.... perhaps because he realized Romney was his new boss.


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Just a tip, whenever you come across these hit pieces on the internet, always read the comments or feedback.[/QUOTE]

Such as this?

Posted by: mickrussom
64 days ago 1 Point
Ron Paul is the greatest candidate I've ever seen. Consistent for 30 years. No flip flops. We are done with WAR, we want a real currency, we want peace, we want the welfare-state for the military industrial complex to END, we want to fix America and ...
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And don't you dare compare cancer fundraising with political fundraising. Complete apples and oranges.

The major problem I have with this is that it allows contributors to fund Ron Paul's election campaign beyond the limits under campaign finance. Any other definition of the blimp's goal is a complete farcity.
 
My guess he's waiting to hang around when the nominations come around to bleed McCain's voting base. The hardcore conservatives don't dig McCain too much and a good way to rape the Republican base is to divert votes away from their front runner.
 
[quote name='level1online']When Ron Paul was backstage during his appearance on Jay Leno, this guy approached Paul and said that he admires his stance on the "forced inoculation" issue.

Ron Paul had no clue who that guy was, later to find out it was Tom Cruise. (*quick! cue the Mission Impossible music*)

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How the fuck did he not recognize Tom Cruise? :lol:



well anyway, this whole "snakes on a plane part II" episode is almost over, thankfully.
 
[quote name='Apossum']
well anyway, this whole "snakes on a plane part II" episode is almost over, thankfully.[/quote]

Well.... you'll probably *sigh* and roll your eyes :roll: when you find out about this.

In his newsletter last week he called for a grand march on Washington DC.

Ron Paul believes, "If enough people show up, it will be impossible for the media to ignore us." That's debatable, I work for the media, and I know how easy it is to "kill" a story.

No date has been set, but the chatter on the internet has mostly been July 4, 2008. Whether the media covers it or not, I'd still go.
 
[quote name='level1online']Well.... you'll probably *sigh* and roll your eyes :roll: when you find out about this.

In his newsletter last week he called for a grand march on Washington DC.

Ron Paul believes, "If enough people show up, it will be impossible for the media to ignore us." That's debatable, I work for the media, and I know how easy it is to "kill" a story.

No date has been set, but the chatter on the internet has mostly been July 4, 2008. Whether the media covers it or not, I'd still go.[/quote]

Well they should probably have voted in their primaries. Primaries/elections don't work via marching.
 
[quote name='level1online']Polio was actually on the decline by the time the vaccine for it was developed and mass distributed.

But hey, the history books in public school will never mention that little tid-bit of information.[/quote]

Bullshit.:D
 
[quote name='level1online']I work for the media, and I know how easy it is to "kill" a story. [/quote]


do you write for one of those magazines at the supermarket with such hard hitting pieces as Bat Boy and Jesus found alive in Boca Raton?
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']do you write for one of those magazines at the supermarket with such hard hitting pieces as Bat Boy and Jesus found alive in Boca Raton?[/quote]

No, I write for the teeny bopper, celebrity gossip madison ave magazines that purposely make women feel inadequate.... ;)

But seriously, I work for Spanish language TV, behind the scenes technical stuff.

Here's an example of what goes on: We'll be shooting live in the middle of a newscast, and a particular story on the outrageous increase of tuition rates for in-state college students will be dropped/killed due to "time constraints."

But miraculously, we're able to squeeze in the story about the iphone debut, and how 200 people were camped outside the local mega-mall.

Newscast ends... I ask "Hey! why the heck was that iphone reported as news? That sounded more like a commercial! NOT NEWS!!!!"

The short answer that I got from the Technical Director was, "the iphone rules, ALL Mac products rule, you suck, ALL Microsoft products suck."

The long answer that I got from the Producer was that the iphone story was the Lead story on all the other networks, and therefore to follow in-step with those more "reputable sources" they chose the iphone story over the tuition story to look professional.........:roll:

So, to summarize: Important stories are killed off all the time to make room for seemingly more important stories, when in fact they're not. This is basically what happens at the local level. The parroting of lead stories is usually done out of greed by the station manager to save money on additional reporters/cameramen/expenses/etc.

Think about it, why spend money to send reporters out into the local field to interview people on national issues, When you can get the direct feeds and needed soundbytes from DC, New York, or LA for free?

Now, on the national news level, it's a totally different ballgame. Major news outlets like fox, cnn, msnbc, etc, realize that local news outlets will parrot their lead stories, so they systematically & scientifically craft the news & propaganda with assistance of the top psychologists money can buy, as well as the pentagon & cia plants within the company (ie Anderson Cooper), so nothing is EVER a surprise or a leak, while anything and everything is a distraction.
 
[quote name='level1online']Well.... you'll probably *sigh* and roll your eyes :roll: when you find out about this.

In his newsletter last week he called for a grand march on Washington DC.

Ron Paul believes, "If enough people show up, it will be impossible for the media to ignore us." That's debatable, I work for the media, and I know how easy it is to "kill" a story.

No date has been set, but the chatter on the internet has mostly been July 4, 2008. Whether the media covers it or not, I'd still go.[/QUOTE]


That doesn't make me do anything, because at this point, there's no need to pay him a second thought.

Ron Paul is an internet sensation...not even as big as Nader. July 4, 2008 is ridiculous--he needed marches on Washington and serious campaigning months ago. By July 4th, even his internet army will have dwindled and the media will have forgotten him. The rest of us will be thinking about the real competition coming up in four months.

even if he shows up with a million people, it'll just be a novelty at best (or an incident, at worst.)
 
Email I received today from from Ron Paul

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February 18, 2008


The DC neocons think their old dream is about to come true. They think they can defeat me in the Republican congressional primary in Texas on March 4th. And you know what? They may be right.

My opponent, who describes himself as a traditional conservative, is a dedicated servitor of all the special interests who have given us the disaster of recent years, from unconstitutional wars to a looming recession, from huge deficits to massive new welfare programs.

A Republican operative allied with the worst forces in DC recently said: "Give what you can [to Ron Paul's opponent]. Ron Paul is running scared -- using his Presidential campaign's donors' money to subsidize a desperate last-minute attempt to save his Congressional seat."

That is a lie, of course. It is illegal to use presidential campaign donations in my congressional race. The congressional campaign has to stand on its own. But so far, we have raised only about a third of what a well-funded effort would need.

In my 10 terms in Congress, I have not only been able to serve my constituents, and help them, for example, negotiate federal red-tape. I have also been able to defend our principles of less spending, lower taxes, no inflation, and strict adherence to the Constitution. Some people in DC laugh at the idea that I should obey my oath of office, and ask first of any proposed legislation, is it constitutional? But I know that you share my support for the vision of the framers.

My friend Congressmen Wayne Gilchrest (R-Maryland) was just defeated in his primary election by a neocon fraud similar to the one I face. My friend Walter Jones (R-North Carolina) is under heavy pressure as well. People like our hand-picked opponents will do anything to gain and keep power. They represent everything that is wrong with DC.

If I am defeated in the upcoming congressional primary, our ideas will be held to have been defeated as well. It will be proclaimed from the rooftops in DC that such "ridiculous and outmoded notions" as the free market, sound money, personal liberty, limited government, and a pro-American foreign policy are through.

I am determined not to let this happen. All that you and I believe in is far too important to the future of our country, and to everyone and everything we love, to let the neocons dance on its grave.

Please, help me stop the lies, the distortions, the pressure groups, the special interests that benefit from DC rip-offs. There is still time to run radio and tv ads, to set up phone banks, to get out the vote. But unless you help, my reelection to Congress may be in jeopardy. Please help me return to Congress to fight for the people of my district, and for the ideas that can save our country from the path to trouble we are now on.

I hesitated to ask you, since you have already done so much. But my wife Carol said, "When you need help, you ask your best friends." So I do ask you, to hold out your hand in support.

Please give today http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com, as generously and as quickly as you can.

Sincerely,

Ron
 
The truth is ... The government is spending too much money. It provides too many services to too many people. One day, the government will not be able to continue borrowing money at its current rate. Once the government cannot borrow any more money, it will have to reduce benefits to one set of people, increase taxes on another set of people or default on outstanding debt to other countries. Once one set of people is screwed over to the point it can't recover, it'll revolt violently or at the ballot box. If a foreign country is screwed over, it is war.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']The truth is ... The government is spending too much money. It provides too many services to too many people.[/quote]

Have another $500,000.00 Tomahawk missle you fucking A-rabs!

Joliet Jake, you're soooo right, but would you really want Bush to have a smiley-faced natural disaster button?
 
[quote name='pittpizza']
Joliet Jake, you're soooo right, but would you really want Bush to have a smiley-faced natural disaster button?[/quote]

He's doing a damn fine job without one.

The government wants the rest of the US to be like New Orleans. Completely dependent on government for salvation and completely lost without government around.
 
Nothing like an election year to bring folks into the vs forum whose entire political philosophy can be summed up in one overgeneralized, unproven, and ridiculously idiotic under scrutiny sentence.

Like the guys, on the day after the Super Bowl, saying things teeming with brilliance, like "if only Tom Brady had more touchdowns, the Pats would have won!"

Bring on the bumper sticker politicians!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Nothing like an election year to bring folks into the vs forum whose entire political philosophy can be summed up in one overgeneralized, unproven, and ridiculously idiotic under scrutiny sentence.
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Actually, it was boredom. Also, long winded answers require more effort to defend and to analyze.
 
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