What kind of Car do u drive??

I can't believe you guys keep leaving out the Talon in those remarks. Name another modern car that has a better bang for its buck. Most 1st generation turbo DSMs can be had for less than $3,000 and are easily 300hp beasts. You guys certainly have the nicer cars according to most people, but to me, DSMs are really really great cars.
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I don't think anybody has said anything against the DSMs either. But we weren't really discussing bang-for-buck. They are fine for what they are, straight line drag racers. But I don't think you can possibly argue that a car like the Rex/S2000/Type-R/Miata would spit them out on anything that has a curve. The DSMs are just not meant for such situations.

A modern (as in, still in production) car with a better "bang for the buck" (though not in the same price range) would be the Corvette Z06. $50k gets you a car that is just as fast as a 911 TT, Viper, or Modena.

And I don't really see how your response was meant to be "tongue-in-cheek" BTW. I think the conversation here has been quite civil so far.
 
i dont think they have a 2003 bmw 323i. last model year was 2001. the 325 and 330 bmw was the replacement beginning 2002.
 
[quote name='pete5883']A big blue '89 Minivan. Beat that.[/quote]

1997 Ford Escort LS. Gold station wagon.
The hottest car you've ever seen.
Eat it.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='secretvampire']
but dragracing isnt part of everyday driving
mine is just plain more expensive and looks better
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Well, I don't drag race either. But the Impreza and S2000 will outhandle a 3-series in the corners too.

Looks are always going to be subjective. I like the 3-series, but everybody and their mother has one around my neighborhood, I have gotten tired of them. Still, you can't go wrong with one...[/quote]

I can't believe you guys keep leaving out the Talon in those remarks. Name another modern car that has a better bang for its buck. Most 1st generation turbo DSMs can be had for less than $3,000 and are easily 300hp beasts. You guys certainly have the nicer cars according to most people, but to me, DSMs are really really great cars.[/quote]


I also agree that hooking up a talon is a good speed for the price. However the engines are infamous for their reliability/durability. If i could have spent my money another way, i most likly would have gotten a dsm. As dropping 4k for an engine and install, only pulling low 14. And I still need to drop cash for some body work and mild boost :(
 
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Nevermind I just sold all my video games and bought this .
 
And I don't really see how your response was meant to be "tongue-in-cheek" BTW. I think the conversation here has been quite civil so far[/quote]

Well, since tongue-in-cheek means not serious. I don't see how it doesn't make sense. I was just messing around with you guys. Wasn't being very serious.

Guys, I know that we weren't discussing bang-for-buck theories. It's just something I threw in. Rather than everyone just post what year and car they have, I figured it would be entertaining to actually talk about cars with some of you.

[quote name='secretvampire']I don't think anybody has said anything against the DSMs either. But we weren't really discussing bang-for-buck. They are fine for what they are, straight line drag racers. But I don't think you can possibly argue that a car like the Rex/S2000/Type-R/Miata would spit them out on anything that has a curve. The DSMs are just not meant for such situations..[/quote]

While I agree with you that a DSM wasn't made to be a rally car, an all-wheel drive DSM with some suspension mods can easily become a nice rally car. And plus in rally races, the driver plays a much more important role than drag racing. In drag racing, you can compensate poor driving with more grip and horsepower. But in rally, you have to be a great driver to stand a chance.

[quote name='secretvampire']A modern (as in, still in production) car with a better "bang for the buck" (though not in the same price range) would be the Corvette Z06. $50k gets you a car that is just as fast as a 911 TT, Viper, or Modena.[/quote]

Yeah, you gotta love the Vettes. Those things are pretty nasty. But a better car (Although, it's not modern according to your definition) is a mid 90s twin-turbo Toyota Supra. I've seen videos of TT Supras walking on Porches, Lambos, Vipers. Those things are highway monsters. I would absolutely love to get one of those.
But the bad thing about them is I've heard they are terrible at getting traction off the line. But once they do, watch out! :shock:
 
[quote name='"Theenternal']I also agree that hooking up a talon is a good speed for the price. However the engines are infamous for their reliability/durability. If i could have spent my money another way, i most likly would have gotten a dsm. As dropping 4k for an engine and install, only pulling low 14. And I still need to drop cash for some body work and mild boost :([/quote]

There are alot of horror stories out there about the reliability with the 4G63s, but I've had two DSMs and really no problems with them at all. They do get a bit tempermental once you start modding them, though. You have to know what you're doing when you are tuning them.

I really think most of these stories come from kids who throw on these big turbos and other mods without upgrading their fuel systems, and they end up killing the engine.

With any car, especially one that's 13 years old, once you start modding them, things break. And it gets even more tricky modding a turbo-charged car.

But yeah, I couldn't imagine throwing down 4K on an engine and barely cracking 14s. 1Gs run low low 15s stock, so just doing a bit modding and tuning could get you into 14s pretty easy.
 
Yeah, you gotta love the Vettes. Those things are pretty nasty. But a better car (Although, it's not modern according to your definition) is a mid 90s twin-turbo Toyota Supra. I've seen videos of TT Supras walking on Porches, Lambos, Vipers. Those things are highway monsters. I would absolutely love to get one of those.
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Oh, absolutely. If we turn back time a little bit, the Supra is the KING of bang for buck since it can easily handle 600hp on its stock internals. THAT is amazing.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']

Yeah, you gotta love the Vettes. Those things are pretty nasty. But a better car (Although, it's not modern according to your definition) is a mid 90s twin-turbo Toyota Supra. I've seen videos of TT Supras walking on Porches, Lambos, Vipers. Those things are highway monsters. I would absolutely love to get one of those.
But the bad thing about them is I've heard they are terrible at getting traction off the line. But once they do, watch out! :shock:[/quote]

Thank god someone here realises that the king is the supra...

To be honest I have and drive a lot of cars. currently my work car is a 98 Taurus 24valve with 185000 on it and going strong.

Just picked up a 99 Eddie Baurer Exp due to my wife totalling her Contour SVT twice! First time it was $5000 in damage two weeks later (9/29) she pegged the second deer. This one was an 8 point going 80mph.... Yup blew the moonroof out of it. $11,500 in damage. They totalled it and gave me $11,xxx for it.

In the garage is a 1984 Supra and 1985 Supra geting makeovers. These cars are really sweet and there is a pretty good following for such a limited car (1982 - a few months of 1986). They are easily convertable to the 7mgte motor and can get into the 12's with less than $10,000 invested.

For sale 1994 Ranger Splash and in the back behind the garage a 1985 parts supra and a 1989 Turbo soon to be parts supra!

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1974 BMW 2002 (summer driver, restored myself)
1974 Honda CB500 Chopper (picture below is how it was when I bought it, currently it's in my garage in about 50 pieces waiting to be finished)
1995 Geo Metro (the salt driver, which in Michigan is at least 6 months of the year)

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May not be the hotest (or even newest) vehicles, but I like them.
 
[quote name='Snake2715']
Thank god someone here realises that the king is the supra...
In the garage is a 1984 Supra and 1985 Supra geting makeovers. These cars are really sweet and there is a pretty good following for such a limited car (1982 - a few months of 1986). They are easily convertable to the 7mgte motor and can get into the 12's with less than $10,000 invested.[/quote]

At one point, I almost bought a very nice mid 80s model Supra. I ended up not messing with it because it wasn't boosted. But I really, really like them.

There's a guy on my base who drives a boosted Supra. It looks pretty much stock, so I'd like to race him to see he's got.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='Snake2715']
Thank god someone here realises that the king is the supra...
In the garage is a 1984 Supra and 1985 Supra geting makeovers. These cars are really sweet and there is a pretty good following for such a limited car (1982 - a few months of 1986). They are easily convertable to the 7mgte motor and can get into the 12's with less than $10,000 invested.[/quote]

At one point, I almost bought a very nice mid 80s model Supra. I ended up not messing with it because it wasn't boosted. But I really, really like them.

There's a guy on my base who drives a boosted Supra. It looks pretty much stock, so I'd like to race him to see he's got.[/quote]

Then my friend you are making a terrible mistake. They are actually very very easily boosted and stomp the third gen supras. The motor (5MGE) is almost setup to get the CT-26 turbo mounted to it. Or the more popular more effective method is to just drop in the 7MGTE motor from the 86.5-92 year and away you go it mounts up no problem.

Hit this link to get the scoop the forums have a lot of memebers and we are always getting group buys offered for custom stuff.

http://www.celicasupra.com
 
2002 Dodge Dakota.
2WD, 4.7L V8, 3.55LS, 5 speed manual.
285/60R16 on the front, 295/65R16 on the back. Still have traction problems.
Lakewood traction bars.
Stall mats for a bed liner.
JVC KD-SH99 MP3-CD player.
46,000 miles.
Mid 15's in the 1/4@about 90MPH
Paid for.

http://mspencer.net/Demon-Xanth/Side_dakota.jpg
(it still had the original 255/65R16's on it in that picture. No, I did not photoshop in the lens flare.)
 
[quote name='Snake2715']Then my friend you are making a terrible mistake. They are actually very very easily boosted and stomp the third gen supras. The motor (5MGE) is almost setup to get the CT-26 turbo mounted to it. Or the more popular more effective method is to just drop in the 7MGTE motor from the 86.5-92 year and away you go it mounts up no problem.

Hit this link to get the scoop the forums ahve a lot of memebers and we are always getting group buys offered for custom stuff.

http://www.celicasupra.com[/quote]

Thanks for the info, man. But honestly, I'm addicted to DSMs right now. Like the Supras, you just don't see the 1G turbo DSM very much.

To be honest, I'm still learning my fair share of engine work. My DSM is kind of my project. I want to do everything by myself and really learn how to do it as I go along.

I just wouldn't have the same pride in her as I would if I did all my own modding.
 
Grave,

No its not mine its Don Culbertson's car.
My 85 looks very close but doesnt have his custom hood.

They are very sharp and people either know what it is or act like they have never seen it before.

Its funny to see a total investment of $10k and some time will do when you stomp some of the newer cars. They handle corners really well.

Yeah I know what you mean eventually you will have a grasp and then teaching new people will be the best part. My cousin is into the older eclipses pretty heavily. We always try to get each other to "convert". I like the Supra due to it being a bit larger motor (inline 6) and that its rear wheel drive for an 1984 they have four wheel disc brakes, power locks,windows,moonroofs, cruise, etc. Well equipped for a car of that age. They sold for $16-18k back in 1984.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']
1974 BMW 2002 (summer driver, restored myself)
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SWEET. Isn't that the first production turbo car ever made? Or is there a turbo and non-turbo version of the 2002?[/quote]

The turbo would be the 2002tii, which he probably woulda dropped if he had...you're right though, I believe it is the first mass-produced turbo coupe.

I'd love to see pics of the restored 2002 - awesome freakin' cars.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
There are alot of horror stories out there about the reliability with the 4G63s, but I've had two DSMs and really no problems with them at all. They do get a bit tempermental once you start modding them, though. You have to know what you're doing when you are tuning them.

I really think most of these stories come from kids who throw on these big turbos and other mods without upgrading their fuel systems, and they end up killing the engine.

With any car, especially one that's 13 years old, once you start modding them, things break. And it gets even more tricky modding a turbo-charged car. [/quote] Its not really the age, its how they are taken care of. I live in a pretty good area for the hobby, I have 3 good friends, one owns a talon, another a 93 eclipse, another a 96. And all have various problems. Im not ragging the DSMS, like I said if I could do everything over I would get one, even with decreased reliability, the value is still really good for a cheap ass driver.
 
cag1000 , You gotta pull that finger out of your ass.

I drive a 2003 bmw 325i and I know for a FACT that bmw stopped production of the 323i 2dr and 4dr in 2000.

Also that s2000 is worth more then your *ahem* 4+ year old car.

s2000's are awesomeand are generally more expensive then a 325i and always more expensive then a 323i.

EDIT: BTW the s2000 outperforms the z4 and looks damn good.
If I could have 2 cars I'd have that one sitting right beside my bimmer.
 
[quote name='Theenternal']Its not really the age, its how they are taken care of. I live in a pretty good area for the hobby, I have 3 good friends, one owns a talon, another a 93 eclipse, another a 96. And all have various problems. Im not ragging the DSMS, like I said if I could do everything over I would get one, even with decreased reliability, the value is still really good for a cheap ass driver.[/quote]

Yeah, I probably should have worded that better. I was just assuming that most 10+ year-old cars will be in need of some maintenance. But if you find one from someone who's been taking good care of it, you won't need to worry as much.

Probably the biggest things you have to worry about is crankwalk on the 2G DSMs. That can be a nasty, nasty thing. Thank God for the six-bolt 1Gs! :D Also, you better get those timing belts changed religiously. Those two things are probably the biggest DSM killers out there.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']92 Plymouth Acclaim. Cheap and reliable. I laugh at all who spend a fortune on their cars.[/quote] True, no one needs too, the only thing they need to do is add the whistle on the car so it goes woooooo woooooo.. Its only in the moanin.
 
No lovin' for the Acuras on this board?

Almost everyone has an American car.

I like my cars like my women. Asian.

Japanese to be specific. The cars that is. Not too particular about Asian women.
 
[quote name='Theenternal'][quote name='Mr Unoriginal']92 Plymouth Acclaim. Cheap and reliable. I laugh at all who spend a fortune on their cars.[/quote] True, no one needs too, the only thing they need to do is add the whistle on the car so it goes woooooo woooooo.. Its only in the moanin.[/quote]

Its only decorations, das it and das all.
 
once i find out how to get an image up ill show u my car
that was a typo sometimes i forget they changed the 3 to a 5
same car either way. i been waiting till the spring to get some rims and tint it out so it wont look like every other one. even though thats what a wanted an incogneto car that blends. but soon u can pull your finger out of you ass since ill be driving a better car tonight and everyday. Good eyes on the 323 though.
 
that s2000 is almost the same amount as my car like i said the only competetion so far is the s2000 and that dude that said hummer
s2000 starts at 32k and mine was more. besides the s2000 looks almost like a miata and you can hook a bmw up more. sorry my bmw would defffff get more chicks looking once i do what im planning and when you tell a girl u have a bmw compared to a s2000 they would b like whats an s2000. cars r just hottie lures.
 
Yeah, you paid more than 32k for a car. YOU ARE SO SMART!!

If you paid that much for a car, it means one of three things...

1. You have a good paying job and can afford it.
2. You're a spoiled brat
3. You're a dumbass paying most of thier paycheck out in car payments and insurance.

Considering the tone and structure of your posts, I'm leaning more towards 2 or 3.
 
...went from a 79 2 door chevy caprice to a 95 buick roadmaster to a 00 chevy prizm... the buick was by far the most comfortable ride I have owned
 
Not exactly. Gary Cowger, Bob Lutz, William Clay Ford and Dietre Zetch, for example, have absolutly problem affording any car.
 
I got a 97 accord
Dc sports catback and headers, indiglo gauges, front strut bar, cusyom lights, HID Kit, cold air intake, 17" Einki Rims wit Kumho's etc.
Mom got a 2004 TL (Kick ass Car)
Dad got a 2000 S2000
Bro got a 240 sx wit a bunch of shit on it (over 400 hp!!)
I also got a 89 wrangler, but it is pretty ghetto
 
I don't...I don't have a license yet.

When I get it, though, I'll have a white 1991 Dodge Caravan. It's not the coolest car around, but it runs fine and the heat, A/C, and radio all work. I can live with it. :D
 
A red 1995 Chevy S-10 long box with a big smah in the back from some asshole that had no insurance. He pays me $50 a mounth and I only have recieved $600 since he hit me on 7/4/02. The damamges were over $2800. I only have Liability insurence so my insurance company laughed when I asked them to help me sue.
 
i dnt drive because i have mastered the highest tier of shaolin, allowing the instantaneous teleportation of my being to any location.

okay i really just failed my road test and wont even have a car then. unless i want a busted up 87 oldsmobile cutlass supreme
 
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