What kind of people trade in their games?

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steve_k

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I found Bioshock 2 today at a pawn shop for $10 (tax included). Out of curiosity, I checked out Gamstop's prices. Full MSRP is $40 and the price for a used copy is $33. Being how I found a used copy for $10, I thought I had found a pretty good deal. I thought I would probably even be able to break even with Gamestop after playing the game and selling it to them. Keep in mind Gamestop sells the used game for $33. I thought they might offer $10 or $12. Their offer was $8.50 store credit or 20% less for cash ($6.80 cash). Are there actually people who are paying $40 for their games and then trading them in for less than $7? Who would do this? Does Gamestop tailor to people with no sense of personal budgeting or financial responsibility?

I know Gamestop offers $25 for new-release titles, but still, these are $60 games. Are people really paying $60 plus tax for their new games and then selling them to Gamestop for $25 store credit or less 20% for cash after playing them? Are these people who have no access to rentals and have no other option but to pay full price and then sell them back for insulting prices?

I know game stores have to make a profit, but if they can only afford to pay so little for their used games, their overhead costs are just too high. Either that, or upper management is just making a killing and laughing at everyone foolish enough to sell their stuff for pennies on the dollar because they can't manage their money. When I buy a game, I try to find it cheap and it resides in my gaming collection from that point forward.

Do these people have an attitude that mimics 'Hey, I need the money, and a little money is better than no money'?
 
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[quote name='steve_k']

Either that, or upper management is just making a killing and laughing at everyone foolish enough to sell their stuff for pennies on the dollar [/QUOTE]

Yeah. To look at it another way, $25 in credit means your next day one game purchase is now only going to cost you $35, a cycle you can continue indefinitely depending on the game. For an alternative, Amazon's values sometimes go up - I saw Red Dead Redemption go as high as $40, and I've heard Mafia II has hit $42. Those games also sold with a bonus credit, so they're practically breaking even.

The truth is, though, that Gamestop thrives precisely because of the folly you ask about here - people don't know any better/don't care, and take what they can get. I'm sure I used to be that way myself, before I learned about all of the ways I can save significantly on gaming. I try hard to buy a game for a price that is as close as possible to its current or projected TIV, or at least get some serious bonuses on it.

And no, I don't keep a lot of stuff - if I get something really cheap and it has no real value, I'll hold onto it only so long as I need to until a deal comes along to dump it.
 
Depends the logic really... I bought Trinity Universe for 50 usd day 1, and played it for 2 weeks and got tired of all the bad designs, I posted it on cag for 35... I was less than thrilled to post it for -15 2 weeks later, but it was in the middle of gameflys used price, and amazons trade in according to cag. I got several offers, 1 was for 25... and the best he would do was 30 shipped... infact most of my trades were less than what gamestop would offer me... This has happened a lot to me, my personal favorite was 25 shipped for my no more heroes ps3. While gamestops prices are very low, a lot of people will try to offer as close to that as possible and would be more than happy to give you what +6 shipped for it, and is that any better in the end?
 
gamestop trade in prices are crap, but i remember once in 2006 when I found a bunch of cheap bargain bin movies on sale for .25c each at shaw's, and then found out gamestop buys em for .50c. I then went ahead bought ALL of them and then took off the shrink wrap and THEN traded them all in. I ended up getting Morrowind GOTY for free and had leftover credit. The best part is that Shaws and gamestop was literally next to each other at the Waltham mall. Other than that, trade in at gamestop is crap and not worth it. just use ebay.
 
I love pawn shops. I've got some extremely good deals. I wonder the same thing myself. Why does people trade in games to get so little money. I've even traded a few games to the pawn shop,but they was old and not worth anything. Otherwise I would have sold them on ebay instead of trading them to the pawn shop.
 
[quote name='radioactivez0r'] To look at it another way, $25 in credit means your next day one game purchase is now only going to cost you $35, a cycle you can continue indefinitely depending on the game. .[/QUOTE]

You're not getting the game for only $35. You're getting the game for $35 PLUS the game you paid $60 for and are now exchanging the for remaining $25. Every time you do this, you are are paying $35 to play the game you bought a few weeks ago and are now trading in as a new release title. You would be better off just renting it from Blockbuster.
 
I've only traded in games once to GameStop and it was during their 50% bonus trade in offer, and I didn't feel ripped off =D

The values still weren't great, but it was so damn convenient. I typically keep games I like anyways.
 
Not everyone pays $60 for a new game and you can almost always find a better price than GameStop's and sometimes there are fuckin' awesome flippin' opportunities at GS.
 
Some people might just want to get rid of a game but get some money off of it. They probably waited too long to return it to the store so trading-in is probably the best option for them.
 
[quote name='CaptainJoel']Not everyone pays $60 for a new game and you can almost always find a better price than GameStop's and sometimes there are fuckin' awesome flippin' opportunities at GS.[/QUOTE]

Not everyone pays $60 for their games, but some of them do, and some of those people who are paying $60 are obviously going back 2 weeks later to sell them for $25 store credit. In my example, the MSRP of Bioshock 2 is $40 where the used game price is $33. Somewhere, someone is paying $33 for this game and selling it back for less than $7 cash. I question why anyone would do this.
 
[quote name='steve_k']Not everyone pays $60 for their games, but some of them do, and some of those people who are paying $60 are obviously going back 2 weeks later to sell them for $25 store credit. In my example, the MSRP of Bioshock 2 is $40 where the used game price is $33. Somewhere, someone is paying $33 for this game and selling it back for less than $7 cash. I question why anyone would do this.[/QUOTE]
Because they're uninformed about the fact that games price drop and go on clearance regularly and that they could get that $33-40 game for $5-10 or so if they just learn to have patience.

However it is those uninformed consumers who help fuel the system while we CAG's keep track of trade values and promos and make a decent profit most times versus what little we've paid for the same games as the masses.

But without the sheep who blindly pay $50-60 for a new game and then trade those in 2-3 weeks later for half that or less we would ALL be paying much higher prices.

Why, you ask? Look at it this way, if those normal people knew about all of the sales/clearances that CAG's did, then they too might wait in many cases before buying the games.

No one buying the games for $50-60 new=no used copies for we CAG's to wait for a B2G1F to pick up for about $20 each when the B2G1F cost is spread out evenly across all three games.
 
I can't stand it either. I've even gone as far as begging my friends to take advantage of different GS trade-ins and the massively insane glitches TRU has gone through this past year. They usually end up giving me the same answers: "i'm broke" "don't have any extra money right now" OR "thanks dude, I'll totally check that out" (which results in them doing nothing). Yet, these are the same people who I end up seeing on my friends list playing the newly released titles and newest XBLA games on Day 1.

Viva la CAG Revolucion!
 
People are lazy. Sure, everyone knows that there is this thing called ebay (etc). Sure, they know when the Gamestop clerk quotes them that they are being heavily shortchanged. But its not worth the trouble to them.
 
[quote name='steve_k']I found Bioshock 2 today at a pawn shop for $10 (tax included). Out of curiosity, I checked out Gamstop's prices. Full MSRP is $40 and the price for a used copy is $33. Being how I found a used copy for $10, I thought I had found a pretty good deal. I thought I would probably even be able to break even with Gamestop after playing the game and selling it to them. Keep in mind Gamestop sells the used game for $33. I thought they might offer $10 or $12. Their offer was $8.50 store credit or 20% less for cash ($6.80 cash). Are there actually people who are paying $40 for their games and then trading them in for less than $7? Who would do this? Does Gamestop tailor to people with no sense of personal budgeting or financial responsibility?

I know Gamestop offers $25 for new-release titles, but still, these are $60 games. Are people really paying $60 plus tax for their new games and then selling them to Gamestop for $25 store credit or less 20% for cash after playing them? Are these people who have no access to rentals and have no other option but to pay full price and then sell them back for insulting prices?

I know game stores have to make a profit, but if they can only afford to pay so little for their used games, their overhead costs are just too high. Either that, or upper management is just making a killing and laughing at everyone foolish enough to sell their stuff for pennies on the dollar because they can't manage their money. When I buy a game, I try to find it cheap and it resides in my gaming collection from that point forward.

Do these people have an attitude that mimics 'Hey, I need the money, and a little money is better than no money'?[/QUOTE]

I can't tell you how many people just want to get rid of stuff so they don't have to take it back home. There is a local store that recently switched to any game prior to Wii, 360 or PS3 that is traded in Disc only will get you a whopping 10 cents.

I can't tell you the games I have found at the various stores around the city. Names are escaping me at the moment but I have found all 3 PS1 Digimon Worlds for $2.99 each, Parasite Eve II for $2.99, Knights Old Republic II for $2.99, etc.. The list goes on and on. Just from a bin at one store I have probably gotten $500 of disc only game value for probably $50-$75. A lot of people don't know the value of the stuff and just want it gone. This store literally just started the 10 cent thing a couple months ago. So this isn't a ton of good finds over years, it is very good finds very recently. Most people just view these games as entertainment and not worth anything.
 
I traded all my games yesterday but my son's and SSF4 I don't play them. I have no time and 40 in credit for games I don't play to get another lego game for my son is worth it to me.
 
Kids, casual gamers, etc. People that don't know about sites like Goozex, and/or don't want to hassle with e-bay or Craigslist etc.

I haven't set foot in a gamestop in 3 years or so, and will never do so again. I trade my games on Goozex--better value than GS and much easier and less time consuming than e-bay, craigslist, etc. If something won't trade, I'll donate it to Goodwill before I'd take it to those bastards at GS.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']People are lazy. Sure, everyone knows that there is this thing called ebay (etc). Sure, they know when the Gamestop clerk quotes them that they are being heavily shortchanged. But its not worth the trouble to them.[/QUOTE]

The trouble of "owning a credit card just to use eBay."

You know, contrary to popular opinion, you're not better than someone because you use Goozex or eBay and they use Gamestop.
 
I still remember years ago someone trading in an old sports game for $0.05. I know the game was worthless and the store would have a difficult time selling it even for $0.99 or $1.99 but how is a nickel worth more to someone than a game, even if it is old.

Also 5 years ago when EB had that $5 bonus for all games except sports games for every 2 games you trade in, I couldn't believe how many games traded in for $0.25 - $0.75 and then were sold for $4.99 - $6.99. With the $5 bonus the trade in values were great but otherwise I couldn't believe people would trade in their games for so little. The only time I ever trade in games is if I get 2/3 of what I paid or I can profit (like when Target had a PS2 game $4.98, I didn't like the game after trying it and traded it to FYE for $7.50)


[quote name='Ki77a KiD TRe']I can't stand it either. I've even gone as far as begging my friends to take advantage of different GS trade-ins and the massively insane glitches TRU has gone through this past year. They usually end up giving me the same answers: "i'm broke" "don't have any extra money right now" OR "thanks dude, I'll totally check that out" (which results in them doing nothing). Yet, these are the same people who I end up seeing on my friends list playing the newly released titles and newest XBLA games on Day 1.

Viva la CAG Revolucion![/QUOTE]

My friends are also like that, I have told them about all the awesome clearance deals that can be found here and none of them are interested in it. Last time we were at the mall, one of them bought a game for full MSRP, something I haven't done in probably 10 years.
 
I think you guys are forgetting that alot of people steal games and try to resell them and will take anything for them.

Also I know this is hard to believe but some people feel "satisfied" you know...like they got their moneys worth on a 60 dollar release and are happy to get anything for it.

My last job in a game store I regularly talked to people who just "threw games in the garbage" when they were done with them. Yes, It was new releases as well.
 
[quote name='Ki77a KiD TRe']I can't stand it either. I've even gone as far as begging my friends to take advantage of different GS trade-ins and the massively insane glitches TRU has gone through this past year. They usually end up giving me the same answers: "i'm broke" "don't have any extra money right now" OR "thanks dude, I'll totally check that out" (which results in them doing nothing). Yet, these are the same people who I end up seeing on my friends list playing the newly released titles and newest XBLA games on Day 1.

Viva la CAG Revolucion![/QUOTE]This has been my experience with friends, too. I'll never understand it. One guy in particular, I've told him about some incredible deals I've heard about here, and I can hear it in his voice that he couldn't care less. He's perfectly happy to pay his $60, and yup, he trades them back to Gamestop months later for next to nothing. I don't waste my time telling him about deals any more.
 
I bet that as far as GS goes a large percentage of trade-ins are parents who trade in games their kids are no longer using, or make them give one up to get a new one.
 
I would think convienence plays a large part. You can fare a bit better with the other outlets than gamestop, but you're still not going to bounce back completely on craigslist or ebay or what have you (IF you even manage to sell a new release for $55 on ebay, you're going to make about $42 after shipping and fees, and don't get me started on putting newer stuff on CL). Some people don't want to play the waiting game, or keep close tabs on the TIV scene or go through the other processes that we do to save that extra bit of money. They would certainly be better off if they did, but some folks just don't care. I know this is where people like to mock the lowly peons and pat themselves on the back (I think I saw the word "sheep" tossed around earlier), but I doubt we're all champions of thriftiness outside of the gaming scene...
 
[quote name='Danimal']This has been my experience with friends, too. I'll never understand it. One guy in particular, I've told him about some incredible deals I've heard about here, and I can hear it in his voice that he couldn't care less. He's perfectly happy to pay his $60, and yup, he trades them back to Gamestop months later for next to nothing. I don't waste my time telling him about deals any more.[/QUOTE]

I can relate, my brother's the same way. He has an extremly low income so I've tried to help by turing him onto Gamefly & Goozex. Just like you, the guy is always uninterested and has never followed up on my advice. I no longer waste my time.

It's a mix of a few things. One is impatience, he needs games the day they come out, the minute they come out. Another is laziness. He's not the most computer savvy guy so anything to do with computers is too much work for him. What urks me the most is he buys mediocre games for full price. Games that are bargin bin within a few months.

I haven't traded a game to GS in 4 or 5 years. Occasionally I'll buy a brand new game at full price. Either for the pre-order bonus or because it's a last minute thing. But it's always a game where I feel justified for spending $60 - $50 on.
 
I trade in almost everything. I used to keep it all, but then I realized that it was a total waste of living space and money. I had shelves full of games that I was never going to play again, and they weren't worth anything anymore. You just have to be strategic about it. In the last month I've done the following:

Mafia 2- Purchased for $40, traded for $42
Metroid: Other M- Purchased for $30, traded this morning for $30.75
Prince of Persia: Forgotten Sands: Purchased for $16, traded for $18

There are others- but I'll spare you. I usually end up paying less than 6 dollars for my games (minus tax and gas). If I like it, or it has a lot of replay, I keep it. Otherwise, it goes to help finance my next game.

Anyone who thinks that trading in a game means that you are going to get $9 in credit, or lose $50 in value is doing it wrong.

I like to lock in my price at amazon after I beat a game. They allow you 5-7 days to ship it to them. I usually use that time to figure out if I really want to keep the game or not.
 
[quote name='jman619']I love pawn shops. I've got some extremely good deals. I wonder the same thing myself. Why does people trade in games to get so little money. I've even traded a few games to the pawn shop,but they was old and not worth anything. Otherwise I would have sold them on ebay instead of trading them to the pawn shop.[/QUOTE]

"Cocaine is a terrible drug"- Rick James
 
[quote name='Logg']I traded all my games yesterday but my son's and SSF4 I don't play them. I have no time and 40 in credit for games I don't play to get another lego game for my son is worth it to me.[/QUOTE]
Personally I'd like to know which games you traded and what you got. If you got $40 for 3-4 games and most were older ones, then it wasn't too bad. But I have a feeling you took in like 12+ games and you got taken really bad.

It's worth your time to investigate ALL options available to you, rather than taking the easy way out and getting taken. If you don't have the time for that, then put them up on a tradelist on CAG and let them sit. Someone will eventually want them and probably give you more than Gamestop.
[quote name='YoshiFan1']My friends are also like that, I have told them about all the awesome clearance deals that can be found here and none of them are interested in it. Last time we were at the mall, one of them bought a game for full MSRP, something I haven't done in probably 10 years.[/QUOTE]
My one buddies' brother-in-law was like that until I showed him some of the deals on CAG. However with how busy he is I usually ended up being the runaround guy to go get the deal(s) for him.

But considering he kept calling me 'the gypsy'(for my buying/selling/trading ways) I kinda grew to resent him a bit for that, since otherwise he would've paid MSRP for many things that I got for free or nearly free.
 
This is another one of those threads that pops up all the time. At least it's not so much bashing Gamestop as it is their customers.

But to address the OP's example of Bioshock 2, you might think that $8.50 isn't a lot of money. It's not, but Gamestop probably has 20 copies of that game per store. Why would they want to give more money for a game they don't need? They do it for two big reasons.

1) it brings their average cost per game down. Remember, they used to give more for that game, but through sales and price drops the value went down.
2) Gamestop will still take it also because it might make the difference that someone needs to buy a $60 game or $20 accessory.

It's win win for Gamestop.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Personally I'd like to know which games you traded and what you got. If you got $40 for 3-4 games and most were older ones, then it wasn't too bad. But I have a feeling you took in like 12+ games and you got taken really bad.[/QUOTE]

BF2 (ya I got ripped on that oh well)
R6V2
Cloudy with Meatballs
Culdeprt Sega - that lame card game
 
[quote name='Survivalism']The trouble of "owning a credit card just to use eBay."

You know, contrary to popular opinion, you're not better than someone because you use Goozex or eBay and they use Gamestop.[/QUOTE]
Who said anything about being better? I just stated that there was clearly a difference of values.
 
[quote name='thegreek']"Cocaine is a terrible drug"- Rick James[/QUOTE]

Actually, The Super Freak said "Cocaine is a HELL of a drug" ;)
 
Simple Solution:

1. Never buy above $20.
2. Never shop at Gamestop.

Following these two simple rules (with the help of the CAG forums) has saved me hundreds of dollars on video gaming, and has provided me with the same gaming experience as someone who buys everything on day 1 and gets ripped off selling it back to Gamestop.

~HotShotX
 
[quote name='HotShotX']Simple Solution:

1. Never buy above $20.
2. Never shop at Gamestop.

Following these two simple rules (with the help of the CAG forums) has saved me hundreds of dollars on video gaming, and has provided me with the same gaming experience as someone who buys everything on day 1 and gets ripped off selling it back to Gamestop.

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]

This. I don't buy a game new unless I have a game that I got for less than 20 that trades high enough to get a new release for ~20 after the trade in. Most of the games I have came from trades here or GameFly.
 
[quote name='HotShotX']Simple Solution:

1. Never buy above $20.
2. Never shop at Gamestop.

Following these two simple rules (with the help of the CAG forums) has saved me hundreds of dollars on video gaming, and has provided me with the same gaming experience as someone who buys everything on day 1 and gets ripped off selling it back to Gamestop.

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
You can actually make out pretty good if you take advantage of gamestops trade-in promotions (not always), and then use the credit on Gamestop.com during one of their promos.
 
I almost always buy from Amazon and I almost never buy from Gamestop. Almost every game on Amazon is priced lower than Gamestop (used or new) and with the amount of credit I have for Amazon, most of my games end up free.

Trade in credit is the same story. Almost every game has a higher trade in value from Amazon.
 
^ Amazon is usually equal to gamestop when GS is running promos. It's all about how long you want to wait. Gamestop gives you credit instantly, and you walk out the door with what you want.

Amazon takes a week to approve the trade, then a week to ship the game. I like to hedge my bets. If I am planning a pre-order, I go through amazon and get their RDD, or if it's something old I probably won't play soon. If it's something i'm fiending to play, I go to gamestop.
 
[quote name='Logg']BF2 (ya I got ripped on that oh well)
R6V2
Cloudy with Meatballs
Culdeprt Sega - that lame card game[/QUOTE]
Getting hosed on one out of only four games isn't that bad, but you definitely need to learn to ask what trade promos they have going. Even if it's one where you get an additional 20-30% for putting a pre-order down towards a game you'll never want and end up cancelling later on anyway, it's 20-30% more than you'll get if you don't ask.

Please understand that I know people's time is valuable, but so is getting the most for your gaming dollar. That's something that I learned years before I joined CAG. This is not a rip on you at all, I hope you know that.

It would definitely be to your advantage though if you could go to the store when you have more time to spare so you can ask the questions that will save you some money in the future.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Please understand that I know people's time is valuable, but so is getting the most for your gaming dollar. That's something that I learned years before I joined CAG. This is not a rip on you at all, I hope you know that.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm guilty of spending more money than I should out of convenience. But if you have enough free time to play video games, then you have enough free time to get them cheaper too.
 
As am I. I've bought about 5-6 games at MSRP since joining CAG, but those were paid with credit I made via game trades of stuff I got for nearly nothing. So to me those weren't really bought at MSRP, even though it says they were on paper.;)

If that makes sense, that is.:D
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']As am I. I've bought about 5-6 games at MSRP since joining CAG, but those were paid with credit I made via game trades of stuff I got for nearly nothing. So to me those weren't really bought at MSRP, even though it says they were on paper.;)

If that makes sense, that is.:D[/QUOTE]

I do the same thing. I'll sell some old stuff to buy new stuff. I try to keep my video game funds as it's own replenishable resource. Plus video game bargain hunting and trading started out as a way to save money but evolved into a hobby of it's own. I enjoy looking for deals and doing trades with fellow CAGs
 
I too enjoy looking for deals, but I prefer to straight up sell games as opposed to just trading anymore, since there's not much coming out that I want and I just don't feel like playing many of the older games.
 
A lot of people trade at lamestop because they dont know any better. They go in and see all the games, they hear the 17 pitches they get about pre ordering such and such game, alot of kids go in and look up to a lamestop employee like they are gaming gods and do whatever they want, parents go in and have no idea what they are doing but assuming since its a game store that they are getting a good deal on trading little jimmies games, they offer fucking stupid pre order offers like a online weapon code and press the issue of trading stuff, have posters about trading it allover the place and so on. Hell before you even get both feet in the door you get asked "you bring any trade ins for us?".

And problem also comes down to bandwagon mentality. Everyone trades at lamestop so everyone wants to because others do it.

Plus a lot of people have no patience at all. They dont want to go see if they can get a better deal or not, they want to trade and get their new game "right now!" So they walk in the door, see the game they want and thats all she wrote. And that is the majority of their customers kids and teenagers who just dont care because they are impatient.

Plus they really hype their trade in deals, like they talk up alot of shit about getting 10% extra trade in if you bring in these specific games or if you trade towards this new games pre order. Well 10% is nice, but when your trading a game in and getting 7.50 store credit a extra 10% of 7.50 really isnt much at all. Even if you get 30 dollars trade in your still only getting an extra 3 dollars, extra is extra dont get me wrong but unless your trading in a couple thousand dollars of games its not that great when you get so little.
 
Never sold a game in my life... but that's changing this week. I'm selling Afro Samurai (bought for $16; game is a mess), LittleBigPlanet: GOTY (bought for $25; really disliked it and LBP2 makes it obsolete), and Ghostbusters (bought for $16; liked the game but don't care to keep) at GameStop. I think I'll get something like $25 for all three. Not much, but hey, they'll rot on my shelf otherwise, whereas $25 can get me a great discount on a game I actually WANT.

I'm not gonna go through the trouble of going to the post office and selling these games myself just so I can nab a couple more dollars.
 
I traded in my copy of Monster Hunter Tri after my Wii's memory got corrupted. I wasn't going to put in 120 hours more into that game to get back to where I was.
 
I've been to gamestop to trade in games maybe 2x in 10 years; once was a guitar hero guitar that I didn't want to hassle with to sell on CL or ebay, another time was a bundle of games that weren't worth anything anyway.

I'm not interested in trading games for other games, so goozex and GamesTZ aren't a good fit for me. I end up ebaying everything. One of my friends seems to know so many people he doesn't need to use fleabay (he's also paranoid about doing stuff online).

Another one of my friends just trades games to lamestop when he's done with it to buy his next game. He's too lazy to mess with CL or fleabay.
 
I think there are 3 common types of people that will do a trade-in on games, at any business. I've put my guesstimated percentages of the groups usage of trade-in systems. I know my numbers are probably way off, but it's the best I got.

1. Parents/Kids (40%) - This group doesn't/can't spend a lot of money on new games so they drag in everything they can think of to get as much off the game as possible. They rarely care about getting the best deal, just getting the game and being done with it.

2. Day One Junkie (35%) - This group knows they could get more for their games if they spent some time, and realize they are getting ripped off, but don't care as much as having the latest game on the first day. It's a compulsion really. A lot of times these are the people you see standing in line for Midnight openings looking like they might just die if they don't have the maximum amount of time to play their game. I'd say Halo fanboys suffer a lot from this. That and MMO players but that's an entirely different beast.

3. Deal Hunter/Flippers (10%) - Smallest percentage of trade-in people and really the way the stores like it. These are the people that buy games at discount at one store and will trade to another. They take advantage of any glitch/loophole they can find. Some people build up massive amounts of credit this way and rarely have to pay large amounts for any games they want, even if on release day.

4. Thieves (15%) - Basically these people don't care what they get for the games because they used their five finger discount to pick it up in the first place. I'd say a decent portion of disc only games come from this group.
 
[quote name='JP']4. Thieves (15%) - Basically these people don't care what they get for the games because they used their five finger discount to pick it up in the first place. I'd say a decent portion of disc only games come from this group.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying 15% of preowned games are hot? I didn't realize kleptomania was so rampant. But then again I always wondered why they had so many disk only games. Why would so many people junk their cases and manuals?
 
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