What's up with EB/Gamestop's "Last Copy" bullshit?

[quote name='monkeydeew']if you are going to play the game anyways, WHO CUCKING FARES if its open already[/quote]
And here comes monkeydeew, riding GameStop's cock and disregarding all the arguments brought up regarding returns.

And those of you saying that GameStop puts seals on opened "new" games, not all do. Just because they should and could doesn't mean that they do it. Half the time, most stores don't even have an idea about in-store promotions. Lord knows if they even know about putting a seal on the games.
 
I like how many people are arguing with BigDaddyBruce, yet he is not praising Gamestop or even saying he likes them. He is just explaining both sides of the argument. Most of the guys I deal with at my Gamestops are lame. I trained them in the past few months to stop the pitchs on me and let me examine my games before purchase. I even have them actively trying to sell black label discs with the black label case when selling used games. Newsed sucks but don't buy it if you want it sealed. I have bought 1 Newsed game in the past 3 years and it was because it was something I wanted to play on my GBA. A newsed GBA game is a little different than a newsed PS3 game.
 
[quote name='Tsukento']And here comes monkeydeew, riding GameStop's cock and disregarding all the arguments brought up regarding returns.

And those of you saying that GameStop puts seals on opened "new" games, not all do. Just because they should and could doesn't mean that they do it. Half the time, most stores don't even have an idea about in-store promotions. Lord knows if they even know about putting a seal on the games.[/quote]

if you are stupid enough to buy new games at gs, then you get what you deserve. once again if you are stupid enough to buy a gutted game without reminding them to put a seal on it, well then you are sucking ftupid
 
Look, some people care about the game being sealed, some people don't. Whether or not that makes you a "real gamer" or whatever is beside the point. The point is that Gamestop advertises a product as new when it is clearly not new by any reasonable definition of the word. Why can't they just call a spade a spade and sell opened copies as used? What is so hard to understand about this?
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Second, as I said in my post, it's been QUITE a while since I purchased a 'newsed' game from Gamestop and the last time I purchased even just a plain old used game, they didn't put the clear plastic 'seal' on it like they have in times past.[/quote]

Why do you keep bringing this up? It holds no water since you obviously do not know current business practices. As with any corporate business, policies/strategies change. If you're so adamant to disagree, go into you local GS and ask.

[quote name='Tsukento']And here comes monkeydeew, riding GameStop's cock and disregarding all the arguments brought up regarding returns.

And those of you saying that GameStop puts seals on opened "new" games, not all do. Just because they should and could doesn't mean that they do it. Half the time, most stores don't even have an idea about in-store promotions. Lord knows if they even know about putting a seal on the games.[/quote]

They do "seal" the games, maybe not by definition of "reseal with plastic". Maybe that ONE you went to didn't, but that doesn't mean the THOUSANDS of others don't.

Nice juvenile response btw.....

[quote name='Ryuukishi'].... The point is that Gamestop advertises a product as new when it is clearly not new by any reasonable definition of the word. Why can't they just call a spade a spade and sell opened copies as used? What is so hard to understand about this?[/quote]

Because opened "taking off the seal" doesn't mean it's been used. Now, if it were a demo unit, then you'd have an argument. And, they do not advertise "new, but opened" games. At some point they had the games new and sealed. There are clearly many GameStops, so the ads/fliers just don't pertain to your local GS.


[quote name='phear3d']
car salesman: "would you like to buy a brand new car?"
buyer: [looks at the muddy footprints inside] "um.. are you sure this is new?"
car salesman: "sure, gamestop does it with their games all the time, and they get away with it."[/quote]

Somewhat true analogy, but the price points are so far off it can't be argued.

[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Some people don't have the time to drive out to stores without a guarantee they will get a game. I live five minutes from a GameStop. I live about 20 minutes away from the closest big box. Simple math.[/quote]

Exactly, same here. Now with gas prices the way they are, and a 20 minute drive in my SUV.... yes, that's easy math.
 
[quote name='eViL D:']Because opened "taking off the seal" doesn't mean it's been used.[/quote]Maybe it hasn't actually been played, but if the seal is off, the box is opened, and the game has been removed and handled, it is no longer in "new" condition. If they then sold it as used, or even as a display copy for some in-between price, that would be fine. My issue is the refusal to even acknowledge that an unsealed, opened game is not "new."
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Maybe it hasn't actually been played, but if the seal is off, the box is opened, and the game has been removed and handled, it is no longer in "new" condition. If they then sold it as used, or even as a display copy for some in-between price, that would be fine. My issue is the refusal to even acknowledge that an unsealed, opened game is not "new."[/quote]

Sorry, games don't hatch out of eggs either. They are printed and inspected, so your argument would that that no game is ever new and thus should be sold used. Just because it was "touched" doesn't mean it's used.

"Hey Johnny, is this game new?", said Victor
"No, I just opened it, it's used", replied Johnny
 
I'm not a collector, nor a normal "CAG". I detest shrinkwrap, and love to read the manuals even though I won't play for them for months....

If I had to whip out cash to get the game, I'm sure as not going to care if it's "newsed", since I was going to do it anyways.

This doesn't mean that I don't mind it being a pile of crap either, box/manual/cart/disc should be near new as possible if it's for a new price.

Again, don't mind if I get one that's been opened. I was going to do it anyways.

Sure it's not perfect, but everyone knows that they do it, and it's morally objected by the CAG community.

If I find that the only copy lies with Gamestop, then that's where I'll go..... but really... I haven't bought anything new there... or "newsed"....

...simply because there are alternate stores/shops/ways to get a new sealed if I wanted to... just picked up Rondo of Swords at Amazon... 18 with prime......

Of course I'm not a 360/ps2-3 player either... but I would probably be more tight if computer games were "newsed".

Gamestop won't change till Gamestop wants to... and it'll be hard pressed to force every person to object and not shop at Gamestop.
 
[quote name='arcurifisher']OH COME ON, IF A GAMESTOP MANAGER is giving you a hassle then they are a terrible manager. We at gamestop are trained to take care of the customer. You have a receipt that is 5 days beyond policy and you explain your story 99% of the time you are going to get your way with a receipt. i often take brand new games back that have never been sealed. Also, those who complain about last copies. It is what it is. Its our way of avoiding theft. Real gamers don't care about a piece of plastic. Do you get a discount at movie theatres because you weren't the first group of people to see a print of a new film. How about being the second person to rent a dvd. If you want it sealed, reserve it. Im more then happy to have you send me $$$ and i'll send you some plastic wrap.[/quote]

....Are you for real? If so you might want to rethink those examples you used.

"It is what it is. Its our way of avoiding theft."

Having fake game cases or cardboard cutouts would be would be avoiding theft what GS does is called being super cheap.

"Real gamers don't care about a piece of plastic."

I got some slightly used comdoms I can sell to you as new without the package. Real men don't mind a little milage on them, amirite guys..?

"Do you get a discount at movie theatres because you weren't the first group of people to see a print of a new film."

Apples and Oranges...

"How about being the second person to rent a dvd."

I don't know what your obsession is with comparing GS to movie rental/theaters.
It could have just the same been compared to a video game rental, but the answer would be the same. RENTING IS NOT BUYING. You go in expecting a used copy when you rent. The problem is many people going to GS are getting used when they are expecting and PAYING for NEW.

You say you are trained to care for the customer...but your words say otherwise with your crazy logic and lame excuses.
 
[quote name='djbooba']I like how many people are arguing with BigDaddyBruce, yet he is not praising Gamestop or even saying he likes them. He is just explaining both sides of the argument.[/quote]

Thank you.

[quote name='eViL D:']Sorry, games don't hatch out of eggs either. They are printed and inspected, so your argument would that that no game is ever new and thus should be sold used. Just because it was "touched" doesn't mean it's used.

"Hey Johnny, is this game new?", said Victor
"No, I just opened it, it's used", replied Johnny[/quote]

:applause:
 
ha ha underliness you could not have said it better, why can't they just use crappy display cases? and arcurifisher your post kinda hurts me inside. Your post is essentially what i imagine the guys at gamestop tell each other every couple of days whenever they realize that anyone that isn't a soccer mom really dislikes their practices.

on a different note i also am not a fan of the guys that say "I'm friends with the manager at my gamestop and they never treat me like the horror stories here". That is a ridiculous statement. I'm really good friends with the manager of my local gamestop (friends before he started working there) and I still hate their practices and policies and how they act. they are really cool to me but a customer shouldn't have to be good friends with employees to be treated well.
 
[quote name='eViL D:']Because opened "taking off the seal" doesn't mean it's been used.[/QUOTE]

Can you prove it hasn't been used? Because if it's already opened I'm going to assume it has been. There really is no other situation where people will try to sell you an opened item as brand new. And no, comparing it to a car doesn't work. And it's ridiculous that you would try to compare the printing and quality control of the game to some minimum wage employee that crams the disc in a cardboard sleeve and stuffs it in a drawer.
 
[quote name='underliness']"Real gamers don't care about a piece of plastic."

I got some slightly used comdoms I can sell to you as new without the package. Real men don't mind a little milage on them, amirite guys..?

"Do you get a discount at movie theatres because you weren't the first group of people to see a print of a new film."

Apples and Oranges...[/quote]

Internal logic failure.
 
[quote name='eViL D:']Why do you keep bringing this up? It holds no water since you obviously do not know current business practices. As with any corporate business, policies/strategies change. If you're so adamant to disagree, go into you local GS and ask.[/quote]

I haven't really brought this up many times, since it would appear that many districts do things differently. My local GS district hasn't done that paper/plastic seal thing in quite a while, while some others still do.
 
i went to 3 gamestops today. there was 2 inside the mall, and guess what, there was one a mile away closer to where the sears i wanted to go to were. i noticed that all 3 gamestops have the same amount of stock for Digital Devil Saga 1 and Nocturne for the ps2. 2 gamestops (1 inside the mall and outside) had a price tag of $39.99. while the other store in the mall had it priced at $49.99.

now, we all know these games were reprinted. but why would you try to deceive your customer into thinking that these were traded in as USED, and sell for $39.99? i really don't understand what they're trying to accomplish here. they actually did this before for disgaea 1 when it was reprinted.. they tried selling them at $39.99, $10 above the new retail price ($29.99) and sold as USED. remember the reprinted Rez from GQD? they did the same shit. i also saw that they had Mario Kart Wii Wheels for $14.99. the suggested retail price is $9.99. its so obvious and so stupid, but yet they get away with crap like that.
 
now, we all know these games were reprinted. but why would you try to deceive your customer into thinking that these were traded in as USED, and sell for $39.99? i really don't understand what they're trying to accomplish here. they actually did this before for disgaea 1 when it was reprinted.. they tried selling them at $39.99, $10 above the new retail price ($29.99) and sold as USED. remember the reprinted Rez from GQD? they did the same shit. i also saw that they had Mario Kart Wii Wheels for $14.99. the suggested retail price is $9.99. its so obvious and so stupid, but yet they get away with crap like that.
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You pretty much answered your question: they do it, because they can. They get away with it. They open the re-prints, because they can sell them for more. And unfortunately, it has been common practice for them to sell a lot of Nintendo-related stuff, both games and accessories, for more than retail.
 
That's like Fire Pro Wrestling Returns for PS2, which was $14.99 for the suggested MSRP I believe, which ended up selling @ Gamestop for $19.99. Funny thing is, even @ $19.99 I have yet to find another new copy of it in ANY of my local Gamestop stores.

I had it, paid about $10 something from Buy.com for it, I liked it but getting used to moving in only 2 dimensions again for a game was aggravating and the learning curve killed any fun factor for me.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']That's like Fire Pro Wrestling Returns for PS2, which was $14.99 for the suggested MSRP I believe, which ended up selling @ Gamestop for $19.99. Funny thing is, even @ $19.99 I have yet to find another new copy of it in ANY of my local Gamestop stores.[/QUOTE]
When I originally bought Disgaea (back when it first came out), I paid $54.99 at a Gamestop. Of course, the MSRP was $49.99.

Come to think of it, I think they may have similarly overcharged me for Kingdom Hearts as well, when that game came out. I don't quite remember, though. I almost never shop in Gamestop anymore anyway.
 
I've bitched about this for years.

One time I bought a "Last copy of a brand new game" of Jade Empire and I found deep scratches on the back of the disc.

Those guys are full of shit and its the reason why I rarely shop there anymore.
 
[quote name='lehviput']For a low profile game, each store probably got no more than 4 copies, unless it's a mall or high traffic store, two or three of which probably sold on the day they received it. Then each store usually receives at most 4 copies of restock, but in most cases only get 2 copies or restock. I should also note, that most stores don't receive restock until they are completely sold out.[/QUOTE]
This is true. Just like OP, I am disturbed by this procedure, but it doesn't mean that it is BS. I have heard the exact same thing from an employee about the restocking of a game. As a matter of fact, I have heard this from several employees. It is in fact true, but it still sucks. What they should do is keep that last shelf copy and order maybe 1 at a time when restocking.
 
I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind selling the official Wii wheel for $5 more, is because they want people to buy their Gamestop brand wheel for $9.99.
 
[quote name='ricoraney']This is true. Just like OP, I am disturbed by this procedure, but it doesn't mean that it is BS. I have heard the exact same thing from an employee about the restocking of a game. As a matter of fact, I have heard this from several employees. It is in fact true, but it still sucks. What they should do is keep that last shelf copy and order maybe 1 at a time when restocking.[/quote]
their business is really selling USED games.. most of the time they'll have more than 5 used copies of a recent game. they don't profit as much for new or newer games (maybe the most would be $10, but that may be a little realistic at times as most games would generally be upto $5 less than retail direct from publishers or distributors). if they can buy a used copy for $15, they'll probably sell them at $30-$40. thats a huge difference in profit over the new/sealed games.
 
[quote name='blueshinra']When I originally bought Disgaea (back when it first came out), I paid $54.99 at a Gamestop. Of course, the MSRP was $49.99.

Come to think of it, I think they may have similarly overcharged me for Kingdom Hearts as well, when that game came out. I don't quite remember, though. I almost never shop in Gamestop anymore anyway.[/QUOTE]

Gamestop (or Babbages, Software Etc) did that a lot back in the SNES days. On launch days, popular games would always be $5 more than MSRP.
 
After trading in a couple DS and GBA games that i've beaten throught and thought i trade them in to GStop, and i get 85.00 store credit.

And since i've picked up every solid game for Wii (SM Galaxy, No more hereos, HOD 2&3, Wario ware, Mario kart, Zack & wiki, prime 3).

I decided to pick up Umbrella chronicles and yes they attempted the last copy routine for that and my backup selection (boom blox)

i flat out told the guy this is not a new copy it has been "gutted" and i should get a discount for this (see consumerist)

he said no, and i walk out with a "NEW":bomb: copy of RE:umbrella chronicles. With the balance i have left i bought Boom blox, but i bought it -legitly- new online.(before i bought UC i checked GStop online and had no new copies of UC, so i had to go to GStop >_>)
 
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