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Would you rather have seen Sega stop selling the Dreamcast and become a 3rd party developer, while Nintendo continues consoles with Wii OR

have seen Nintendo stop selling the Gamecube and have become a 3rd party developer, while Sega continued consoles with Dreamcast 2?
 
This is a hard question. I really liked the Dreamcast. IMO it was way ahead of its time when it launched. Tons of Great Games off the bat and NFL 2K Series was amazing. While I like to see Nintendo have the success that they achieved now I would have also liked to see Mario on other systems. Nintendo by far is the best 1st party developer with tons of hit games. Thats all I got.

Hard one but I actually went with Nintendo.
 
Your post made my head explode. But I would LOVE LOVE LOVE for Nintendo to become a third-party publisher. Being able to play Mario and SSB on my Xbox would have saved me $250 dollars.
 
This is actually a really interesting topic.

I'm going to say I wish Nintendo would've gone 3rd party. They're always behind the curve with hardware... the N64 had carts, the Cube refused to make online a priority of any sort, and the Wii isn't exactly current tech. Nintendo also relies far too much on stupid gimmicks, the most immediately obvious of which is motion control, but also with stuff like the connectivity they were going on about with the Gamecube and GBA.

Now, Sega fucked up, too. The Genesis had a fuckload of stupid add-on stuff (though Nintendo wasn't much better with their disk drives) and the Saturn sucked at 3D... but the Dreamcast was basically as good as anyone could've hoped for in terms of hardware. If that's any indication, Sega would be putting out some damn good stuff today if they were still in the bidness.

Then there's the issue of there only being Nintendo games on Nintendo systems, which is annoying, because Nintendo can put out stuff so damn good that you'll end up shelling out for an otherwise mostly worthless system... and that's really never been an argument against Sega's platforms.

So yeah, I never really thought Nintendo was a good hardware manufacturer... I really wish they would've gone 3rd party instead... then again, maybe I'm just bitter that Sega completely lost their edge when they ditched hardware.
 
nintendo's software is the only reason to buy their console. Why would they throw that away and become a third party publisher?

too bad sega doesn't get back in the game, maybe one day.
 
Well it depends.
What if Sega continued after the DC..but they still gave us A LOT of the crap games they have given us last gen and this gen? I loved the DC and especially tge Genesis..but, I don't know if I'd rather have seen them go on being first party.. :whistle2:k

Nintendo on the other hand makes great stuff (usually). Maybe if they went third party, we'd stop getting so much rushed shit to slap Mario's name on it and throw in waggle control.

Personally I'd love to see Nintendo become a second party publisher for Microsoft. MS seems to have the hardware (in terms of idea, that is lol) and Nintendo makes great games. The 2 of them together = win.

...But this is a hard choice. I'm going to say Sega. Hard choice though :(
 
I'm happy the way things ended up. Yeah, SEGA hit it head on with the Dreamcast and had such a good effort there, but IMO up until that point they had yet to prove their worth.

I've always enjoyed the Nintendo consoles I've had and they always had more than enough games on them to justify purchasing it.
 
Hard decision, as I love both companies, but I'll have to go with Sega on this one. Not so much because of the Wii, but because of the DS; it's an incredible piece of hardware that none of the other companies would've ever come up with. Sega might've, but probably not - they've been ahead of their time more than once, but usually too far ahead.

As an aside, I'm sure the Wii will get a slew of original third-party games with the same level of quality as the DS gets, but it's not there yet.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Well it depends.
What if Sega continued after the DC..but they still gave us A LOT of the crap games they have given us last gen and this gen? I loved the DC and especially tge Genesis..but, I don't know if I'd rather have seen them go on being first party.. :whistle2:k[/quote]

Alas, a lot of that shovelware came about because of the bankruptcy filing. I guarantee you legions of consultants came in and the shovelware was given all the priority cycles just so SEGA could make some money and keep afloat.
 
why is it only sega and nintendo?? shouldn't it have also included microsoft and sony, they too develope hardware and software. so i don't know why they weren't included.

if it's based on these two [sega/nintendo] i'd have to go with sega. they don't know what they're doing. look at the mistakes they made in the past. nintendo did made mistakes but not as bad as sega.

if all four were included, i'd have to say microsoft.

remember that a game isn't based on technicality. it's based on it's entertainment values.
 
I'd prefer if both stopped selling hardware and just made games. Nintendo showed that they don't want to advance their hardware at all with the Wii, so I'd rather they just be forced to make their games on better hardware.

It's also best if the companies that make the best games don't make systems as well, so their games are available on more systems. Though I'm not a big fan of any of Sega or Nintendo's recent games anyway.

If I had to pick one I'd pick Nintendo go third-party because I have slightly more interest in their recent games, and I'd prefer to play some of their DS games on a bigger screen (using a PSP). But I would have to get Sega's console for Alpha Protocol and Condemned.
 
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Nintendo, easily. Sega's games have been so shitty since they killed off the Dreamcast and restructured their developing process.(RIP Smilebit) It's a rare thing that I can find more than 1 or 2 Sega games that I'm excited about anymore.

I think that Nintendo would have better quality control as a third party, since Miyamoto almost never fails to know when a game needs to be delayed and reworked to meet his standards. So with Sega developing like they used to in their 1st party bubble, and Nintendo putting out their consistently decent games on every system, we'd all be the better for it.
 
I would want both to be third party. I like nintendo games, I just hate their consoles. I don't care about Sega, but the dreamcast was good. However, I don't really want a Dreamcast 2, since that would cost me more money!
 
Nintendo produces quality games, and I'd never want them to have to answer to other companies about when they come out. If they were a third party, don't have any illusions that Sony or (in this case) Sega would let them have as much time as they want. I'd rather deal with slightly antiquated hardware and get great games out of it.

If Sega kept in the console business, we'd have two things. A likely great console with mediocre fist party games and not enough money to buy exclusives.... and... no Microsoft. I've always rather been under the impression that MS entered because Sega faltered. Would they have launched in a market with THREE consoles? Unlikely.

So... really, I'm happy with where we are. Nintendo, though still fucking goofy with their hardware, is making amazing games. Microsoft stepped up to become what Sega SHOULD have been, but never would have acheived. Sony is continuing to be Sony.

Sega was NEVER good at business. NEVER. Genesis add-ons, Saturn, too early Dreamcast with no EA support. They were interesting innovators, but they were terrible at running a business. If it wasn't the Dreamcast, the next one would've sunk them anyway. Shame, too, because the DC is still my favorite console ever. I, however, have no faith that Sega would've been able to continue like that.
 
I'd have to go with Nintendo as I like some of their franchises a lot, but they are a terrible hardware company since the SNES imo. Cartridges and shitty controller for the N64. GC was better, but should have been DVD and the right analog stick was a joke and useless for FPS games. Wii lacks HD, decent online and I don't care for motion controls and the Wiimote/nunchuck lacks buttons/triggers needed for traditional control schemes.

I'd much rather have gotten to play Mario, Metroid and Zelda in glorious HD on the 360 or PS3 than in jaggy SD with waggle on the Wii. As is, I ditched the Wii after those and doubt I'll buy another Nintendo console. Just not worth it for the few franchises I like of theirs given the terrible third party support on their consoles.

So for me, it would have been great if it was them, rather than sega, that went third party. But that's never going to happen and I can live without mario metroid and Zelda after playing them for 25+ years.
 
[quote name='looploop']Nintendo, easily. Sega's games have been so shitty since they killed off the Dreamcast and restructured their developing process.(RIP Smilebit) It's a rare thing that I can find more than 1 or 2 Sega games that I'm excited about anymore.[/quote]


Yep I agree with loop 100% their games have gone to hell...
 
[quote name='pochaccoheaven']why is it only sega and nintendo?? shouldn't it have also included microsoft and sony, they too develope hardware and software. so i don't know why they weren't included.

if it's based on these two [sega/nintendo] i'd have to go with sega. they don't know what they're doing. look at the mistakes they made in the past. nintendo did made mistakes but not as bad as sega.

if all four were included, i'd have to say microsoft.

remember that a game isn't based on technicality. it's based on it's entertainment values.[/quote]
It's only Sega & Nintendo because I wanted to limit to either of those two only, to get the best reading on a Sega VS Nintendo debate. I was planning on asking the same question in a future poll with all the companies.
 
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