thanks for the link. i might buy both. touched! was too fun to pass up. (played it at gamestop), and twisted seems to be as good/better. i really wish i didnt miss out on the buy 2 get 1 free deal at GS, and my GR has terrible DS selection. oh well. ill just buy the games at costco since they are a few bucks cheaper, and the DS is $5 less there with the free mario 64