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[quote name='Jrunt20x']LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!!!! It's time for the main event the video game match of the millenium, the DS vs. the PSP!!! In this in depth head to head match, I'll go punch by punch, round by round to find out, dare I say it, which is better. Before I begin, please note, the view expressed in this report is mine only at this current time. It could change at any moment. Anyway, let's begin!

Round 1: hardware quality!

Ah, this is very important. Everyone wants their new system to be strong and durable. As with all Nintendo products, durability is key with the DS. The system is strong and durable. The touch screen has an extra protective cover ing and the system itself is just well built. The buttons don't stick or are too loose, the touch screen is responsive and the system has the wonderful "clamshell" design to keep the screens protected. Nintendo as always shows here how they can build strong, long-lasting systems. The PSP on the otherhand is good in this category, but it' suffers from a few faults. One of the nice things about the PSP design is that sony put the screen behind the outer shell covering. Unlike the DS where the screens are exposed during use and could potentially be scratched, the screen is hidden behind the plastic shell, so damage to the screen is near impossible. They system itslef feels durable but there are a few problems. First the analog nub, while good, is somewhat strange. It just doesn't feel right. The nub feels restricting and just not right. It's not nice and flowly like the normal analog sticks.It's just not right. Also oddly, the square button was not set properly. It either sticks or doesn't push down right. Something is just wrong with the button and it could be troublesome to the durability and the use of the system.

Winner: DS!!!

Round 2: Control/ Layout

The controls are necessary for enjoying games. The DS controls and layout are nice but not perfect. The complete lack of an analog stick causes some wonky controls in games such as Mario 64 DS. Also sometimes using the touchscreen could be cumbersome with using the controls on the system. PSP is not perfect either but I feel that it outdoes the DS in this area. Even though the problems with the analog stick and square button are there, the system just controls better. The analog control is really necessary with 3D games and thus is great here. Also, the buttons just seem to be placed perfectly and are comfortable.

Winner: PSP!!!

Round 3: Launch games.

The launch games with these two systems are essential to the enjoyment of them. The one thing that is so fundamentally different is the games on these two systems. The DS games are new interesting ways of looking about gaming. Using the touch screen and voice options really allows for new gamplay experiences. The DS games are pure originality. They are fun, different and interesting, even the few mini games found in Mario 64 DS or all of FTM show just how much potential there is for the system. The PSP on the otherhand offers a gaming experience like we know today. I can't even begin to explain how cool it is to be able to near ps2 style games on the go. It's great. But, the one thing about a portable system is that it needs to have different kinds of games. I am fear that the system will boil down to ports of ps2 games. That is my main concern at the moment. Playing launch games such as Ridge Racers and MGA is great. But I feel concerned after playing them.

Winner: Tie!!!

Round 4: Coolness

Ah.... this where the PSP rules. The system is just sexy, it's the Pamela Anderson of portable systems. Just seeing it makes anyone turn heads. The clear glossy outer covering just makes the system look great and the whole interface is just great. Nothing better then blasting some mp3s and then instantaneously switching on MGA. I feel that the PSP is kinda what the N-gage wanted to be, but failed speculously. The PSP is a true multidmedia device that is great. I could go step by step about the user interface but I'll save that for another time. The DS on the otherhand is certainly no slouch, but it just isn't as cool as the PSP. I think the DS does a fine job, but PSP just goes above and beyond in this category. Hands down, PSP is the cooler system.

Winner: PSP!!!!!

Final impressions: At this moment in time, I have to say the PSP is the better device. But, I do feel that DS has greater potential. I think if developers can really make use of all the great innnovations the system offers, The DS could easily edge out the PSP. The fact is just that, the PSP is the cooler system. It looks nicer and just offers more options outside of gaming. Be it movies, mp3s, pictures or whatnot, all you have to do is save it to a memory stick and your good to go. The PSP is great and may be a system to finally bring Nintendo some healthy competition.

Winner: PSP!
Honorable mention: DS may have more potential.[/quote]
 
I doubt anyone imported the PSP yet. Especially after some sites are charging up to $500 and all of the alleged problems with the systems.
 
Yeah, I just had about $800 lying around that I needed to get rid of so I bought 2 new handhelds at inflated post-release prices and some games to play on them.

Not.
 
Here are some impressions from a rich Brit on another forum:

[quote name='Kop_007']You'll have seen the screenshots but on the smaller screen you'd think Ridge Racers was as good a PS2 version. Moves with great speed, looks stunning. Playing it brings back a lot of old memories of the Christmas I got my Playstation.

I'll let you know on the battery, I've got it plugged in (hope its ok, using my laptop plug with the multi voltage adapter), but it said 49% when I got it out the box. I think it did anyway, wanted to ger RR on the go straight away.

The PSP is also much smaller than I expected for some reason.

Anyway, I'm under the impression at the moment that the PSP is the best thing ever (always the way isnt it?).[/quote]

He'd obviously happy with his purchase at this point.
 
True test for the handhelds will be to compare their strength in about a year's time, after both systems have a fair amount of AAA titles released.
 
I have both the DS and an import PSP. It's really a tough call as to which one I prefer. They are such different systems and are both great at what they do. Do you guys want me to do a complete head 2 head with the DS and PSP? I will if you want. Just tell me the specific categories to talk about and I will.
 
Good thread...

To Jrunt, let's see what you think on the following:

1. System "quality", meaning how durable they seem and how well put together they seem to be.

2. Controls/layout

3. launch games

4. Overall "coolness" factor...of course, this would be your opinion

Also, just curious here, what made you get both of them so soon?
 
I'll get going on this head 2 head. Gimme till tomorrow to really sit down with them and draw up some nice observations. Tomorrow after 3 :00 I'll have my full impressions posted so check back then. Also, to answer the questino about why I got mine early is that my birthday was friday so for it my family and I all kinda chipped in together and we got enough money to buy one along with metal gear acid.
 
[quote name='Jrunt20x']I'll get going on this head 2 head. Gimme till tomorrow to really sit down with them and draw up some nice observations. Tomorrow after 3 :00 I'll have my full impressions posted so check back then. Also, to answer the questino about why I got mine early is that my birthday was friday so for it my family and I all kinda chipped in together and we got enough money to buy one along with metal gear acid.[/quote]

you know japanese? I didn't know that MGA had english for the story

Lumines supposed to be pretty good, I'm gonna try it out tonight :D
 
i dont actually own one but i have been playing with the nds my friend has quite a bit. at first i was pretty sure this was what i wanted, thinking about all the cool possiblities with the touch scree. but so far i dont think any of the games ive played have made me really want the system.

ofcourse its only been like a month, there will probally b much better titles out in the future. i dont get why people like the mario 64 port on the ds so much, yes the games fun but its nothing totally mind blowing.

the more i think about it though the more i want the psp, imo it looks a lot cooler and has mp3 capabilities which i really want. but i wont b getting that on launch either, gonna wait a few months to c which has the better games to decide.
 
[quote name='maxflight'][quote name='Jrunt20x']I'll get going on this head 2 head. Gimme till tomorrow to really sit down with them and draw up some nice observations. Tomorrow after 3 :00 I'll have my full impressions posted so check back then. Also, to answer the questino about why I got mine early is that my birthday was friday so for it my family and I all kinda chipped in together and we got enough money to buy one along with metal gear acid.[/quote]

you know japanese? I didn't know that MGA had english for the story

Lumines supposed to be pretty good, I'm gonna try it out tonight :D[/quote]

Yeah, I know japanese. Enough to get through the game.
 
[quote name='Jrunt20x']I'll get going on this head 2 head. Gimme till tomorrow to really sit down with them and draw up some nice observations. Tomorrow after 3 :00 I'll have my full impressions posted so check back then. Also, to answer the questino about why I got mine early is that my birthday was friday so for it my family and I all kinda chipped in together and we got enough money to buy one along with metal gear acid.[/quote]

Excellent....I'll be looking forward to it! Thanks!
 
I played some Lumines last night, (I don't have Ridge Racer or Minna no Golf or anything yet). it's a pretty good game, very much the "tetris" of PSP, perhaps the most original and pickup and play game from the launch batch (based on what I know with the other games).

But.. after playing for a while, I went back to SPRUNG on the DS, which brings me to my second point: I feel like SPRUNG is quite underrated. the script is quite well written. i've laughed quite a few times already while playing. I guess most reviewers wanna get more action (sorry I had to do it!!), or maybe it has very little replay value. but then again metroid has very little replay value as well, after getting 100%, the game is basically done. so far I'm enjoying most of the playing time on it, probably spent a good few hours on it already. i guess to each his/her own.
 
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!!!! It's time for the main event the video game match of the millenium, the DS vs. the PSP!!! In this in depth head to head match, I'll go punch by punch, round by round to find out, dare I say it, which is better. Before I begin, please note, the view expressed in this report is mine only at this current time. It could change at any moment. Anyway, let's begin!

Round 1: hardware quality!

Ah, this is very important. Everyone wants their new system to be strong and durable. As with all Nintendo products, durability is key with the DS. The system is strong and durable. The touch screen has an extra protective cover ing and the system itself is just well built. The buttons don't stick or are too loose, the touch screen is responsive and the system has the wonderful "clamshell" design to keep the screens protected. Nintendo as always shows here how they can build strong, long-lasting systems. The PSP on the otherhand is good in this category, but it' suffers from a few faults. One of the nice things about the PSP design is that sony put the screen behind the outer shell covering. Unlike the DS where the screens are exposed during use and could potentially be scratched, the screen is hidden behind the plastic shell, so damage to the screen is near impossible. They system itslef feels durable but there are a few problems. First the analog nub, while good, is somewhat strange. It just doesn't feel right. The nub feels restricting and just not right. It's not nice and flowly like the normal analog sticks.It's just not right. Also oddly, the square button was not set properly. It either sticks or doesn't push down right. Something is just wrong with the button and it could be troublesome to the durability and the use of the system.

Winner: DS!!!

Round 2: Control/ Layout

The controls are necessary for enjoying games. The DS controls and layout are nice but not perfect. The complete lack of an analog stick causes some wonky controls in games such as Mario 64 DS. Also sometimes using the touchscreen could be cumbersome with using the controls on the system. PSP is not perfect either but I feel that it outdoes the DS in this area. Even though the problems with the analog stick and square button are there, the system just controls better. The analog control is really necessary with 3D games and thus is great here. Also, the buttons just seem to be placed perfectly and are comfortable.

Winner: PSP!!!

Round 3: Launch games.

The launch games with these two systems are essential to the enjoyment of them. The one thing that is so fundamentally different is the games on these two systems. The DS games are new interesting ways of looking about gaming. Using the touch screen and voice options really allows for new gamplay experiences. The DS games are pure originality. They are fun, different and interesting, even the few mini games found in Mario 64 DS or all of FTM show just how much potential there is for the system. The PSP on the otherhand offers a gaming experience like we know today. I can't even begin to explain how cool it is to be able to near ps2 style games on the go. It's great. But, the one thing about a portable system is that it needs to have different kinds of games. I am fear that the system will boil down to ports of ps2 games. That is my main concern at the moment. Playing launch games such as Ridge Racers and MGA is great. But I feel concerned after playing them.

Winner: Tie!!!

Round 4: Coolness

Ah.... this where the PSP rules. The system is just sexy, it's the Pamela Anderson of portable systems. Just seeing it makes anyone turn heads. The clear glossy outer covering just makes the system look great and the whole interface is just great. Nothing better then blasting some mp3s and then instantaneously switching on MGA. I feel that the PSP is kinda what the N-gage wanted to be, but failed speculously. The PSP is a true multidmedia device that is great. I could go step by step about the user interface but I'll save that for another time. The DS on the otherhand is certainly no slouch, but it just isn't as cool as the PSP. I think the DS does a fine job, but PSP just goes above and beyond in this category. Hands down, PSP is the cooler system.

Winner: PSP!!!!!

Final impressions: At this moment in time, I have to say the PSP is the better device. But, I do feel that DS has greater potential. I think if developers can really make use of all the great innnovations the system offers, The DS could easily edge out the PSP. The fact is just that, the PSP is the cooler system. It looks nicer and just offers more options outside of gaming. Be it movies, mp3s, pictures or whatnot, all you have to do is save it to a memory stick and your good to go. The PSP is great and may be a system to finally bring Nintendo some healthy competition.

Winner: PSP!
Honorable mention: DS may have more potential.
 
Nice review! I can't believe you paid all that money for both systems though... but if you didn't then we wouldn't get to read your impressions...
 
nice review jrunt, I like your choice of words in the final impressions. indeed PSP IS the better device, since it currently has more capabilities. personally though, at the moment I feel the DS games are more fun. Even the simple mario mini games can probably occup hours.

I already have a more versatile mp3 player so I won't be playing mp3s on the psp most likely, gotta conserve as much juice as possible. movie/video wise, I think I'm too lazy to convert and do all that stuff just to watch on the go, might change later I guess. so for me, bottom line is the games.

i'm sure many of you will see it differently, but I'm just putting in my 2 cents :)
 
Awesome! Thanks Jrunt, I appreciate your review. This is kind of what I expected. The PSP just looks so damn sexy. Even though the analog "nub" isn't too comfy, at least it's there. I still can't believe that the DS doesn't have an analog stick or nub. I was playing the metroid demo and it just felt weird to hold with the stylis and w/o the controls just stunk. Time will tell, I suppose.
 
Thanks guys for being so appreciative of my review! I really am thankful for it. If you guys have any more categories for me to talk about or any questions feel free to ask them or even PM me. I'll be going out of town tomorrow for holiday vacation but I'll reply to any questions as soon as I can. Thanks guys!
 
Yeah jrunt. Thanks for the time to inform us lowly pions who are not blessed with huge excesses of money for which to spend on beautiful objects of desire such as the DS and the PSP! :D

Hope you enjoy both of them and keep us updated on how they fair through the long-term!
 
I certainly will xtreme. With the traveling I will be doing i'll really get to see how the two systems hold up. Anyway, I gotta go to bed now cause I gotta wake up really early tomorrow. :cry: Anyway, thanks everyone for being so supportive and I hope you all enjoy the holidays and have a happy new year!
 
Here's a quick question.......Have you experienced the flying UMD disc thing? I saw a video at gameinformer.com where if you put pressure on the system a certain way, the disc will pop out. Just curious......

Oh, one more thing. How is MGA? Is it even remotely as interesting as the MGS games?
 
[quote name='slavefive']Awesome! Thanks Jrunt, I appreciate your review. This is kind of what I expected. The PSP just looks so damn sexy. Even though the analog "nub" isn't too comfy, at least it's there. I still can't believe that the DS doesn't have an analog stick or nub. I was playing the metroid demo and it just felt weird to hold with the stylis and w/o the controls just stunk. Time will tell, I suppose.[/quote]

Thats what the thumb nub is for give it 30 minutes and you will be hooked flying around with it like no other.
 
[quote name='Snake2715'][quote name='slavefive']Awesome! Thanks Jrunt, I appreciate your review. This is kind of what I expected. The PSP just looks so damn sexy. Even though the analog "nub" isn't too comfy, at least it's there. I still can't believe that the DS doesn't have an analog stick or nub. I was playing the metroid demo and it just felt weird to hold with the stylis and w/o the controls just stunk. Time will tell, I suppose.[/quote]

Thats what the thumb nub is for give it 30 minutes and you will be hooked flying around with it like no other.[/quote]

Are you talking about the nub at the end of the strap on the DS? I was wondering about that thing. It looks like a last minute band-aid put in by Nintendo when they started to realize that no analog stick is gonna hurt the system. At least that was my initial thought. Are you saying that you liked playing with it?
 
[quote name='Jrunt20x']Thanks guys for being so appreciative of my review! I really am thankful for it. If you guys have any more categories for me to talk about or any questions feel free to ask them or even PM me. I'll be going out of town tomorrow for holiday vacation but I'll reply to any questions as soon as I can. Thanks guys![/quote] I'm curious to see how the battery life argument pans out . Let us all know . :)
 
Lumines is an original PSP game that you neglected to mention (probably you don't have it yet). It is without a doubt the best handheld game I have ever played.
 
[quote name='spyhunterk19']what is the point of reviewing a system? IMO, the value of a system can't be determined until the very last game for it is shipped.[/quote]

I see your point, but some find this very interesting. Obviously, you can't make your decision based on how "sexy" or cool a system looks. But, it is interesting to find out how well the system is built or even how it comes packaged. A lot of people find this info on new systems very interesting and I am one of those people.

In fact, this info is somewhat helping me make my decision. I have $100 in credit to a local mall (it was an x-mas gift) and I almost bought a DS, but I'm torn between getting a ds or waiting for the psp. see, I'm not that interested in any of the current DS games. But, it has FF3 (the original Japanese game) coming.....but, the PSP has a ff7 game coming out and MGA. It's all this together that makes someone make their decision.
 
Hey guys, I here to give an update on some of the things that I have experienced since my review. First, the flying UMD thing. I have not experienced it yet. I actually sat down for about an hour or two and tried to make it pop out of the system. Luckily it did not happen, I heard the movie was proven to be fake but I can't confirm that. I'm thinking that if it was real, it was a problem with that unit so I wouldn't worry about it being a widespreed thing. Second, I beat Metal Gear Acid the other day. I thought it was ok but not great. I'd give it a B. I you want me to give you a break down let me know. I don't wanna post spoilers without you guys giving me the ok first. Third, the battery life. The battery life is not terrible by any means. If you make sure to charge your PSP everynight before you go to bed like I do, you should get about 3-5 solid hours without it becoming low. However, there is a quite noticable difference in the life between a PSP and DS. With the PSP it's something you will have in the back of your mind while you're playing the system. I find this to be kinda disappointing and should be a mark against the system. Also, I did know about Lumines and it is a great game. But, one game cannot really account for originality. I was looking at both launch line ups and while Lumines is by far one of the best games in a while, I felt that I needed to look at them as a whole. Also, I'll be back home on sunday and I will be re editing my review along with some new thoughts and impressions. The outcome of the review will be the same but I'm going to tweak some things and give guys a fresh look at some things I've noticed. Thanks guys!!
 
Thanks for the update. I almost got a DS the other day, mostly because I have $100 in mall credit burning a hole in my pocket. But, I'll probably like the games on the PSP moreso than I would the DS. I'll restrain myself for a few months and see what happens.
 
[quote name='slavefive'][quote name='Snake2715'][quote name='slavefive']Awesome! Thanks Jrunt, I appreciate your review. This is kind of what I expected. The PSP just looks so damn sexy. Even though the analog "nub" isn't too comfy, at least it's there. I still can't believe that the DS doesn't have an analog stick or nub. I was playing the metroid demo and it just felt weird to hold with the stylis and w/o the controls just stunk. Time will tell, I suppose.[/quote]

Thats what the thumb nub is for give it 30 minutes and you will be hooked flying around with it like no other.[/quote]

Are you talking about the nub at the end of the strap on the DS? I was wondering about that thing. It looks like a last minute band-aid put in by Nintendo when they started to realize that no analog stick is gonna hurt the system. At least that was my initial thought. Are you saying that you liked playing with it?[/quote]

playing with the "thumb nub" will make you feel right at home (for metroid)
if you're used to keyboard and mouse setup. It may actually be better than that since it's more natural to control a thumb than a mouse.
 
[quote name='peteyrose']Lumines is an original PSP game that you neglected to mention (probably you don't have it yet). It is without a doubt the best handheld game I have ever played.[/quote]

Lumines is a pretty damn good game, but I don't think it was the best handheld game for me though. Off the top of my head, I would have to say warioware or astroboy. Probably some other good ones if I take the time to think about it.
 
lol just typed a whole page and got an error, lost it all.

I have both and I am amazed by the PSP, the HDTV-like wide screen produces beautiful, crisp colors that really draw you in. I like the feel of the nub, you get used to it afer a few tries.

I did check a few PSP's when I got mine and some had buttons that didn't feel as sturdy, or would kinda get stuck. But to be honest it probably goes away after a day of use.

The PSP will be a steal at $200 when released in US, in only about 2 months.

here's some pics:

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/7362/dsc007016mq.jpg

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/4092/dsc006993ie.jpg

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/7126/dsc007036uz.jpg
 
[quote name='optimolife']lol just typed a whole page and got an error, lost it all.

I have both and I am amazed by the PSP, the HDTV-like wide screen produces beautiful, crisp colors that really draw you in. I like the feel of the nub, you get used to it afer a few tries.

I did check a few PSP's when I got mine and some had buttons that didn't feel as sturdy, or would kinda get stuck. But to be honest it probably goes away after a day of use.

The PSP will be a steal at $200 when released in US, in only about 2 months. [/quote]

Nice pics........I'll ask the same question I asked Jrunt.....What made you get both and why get the PSP so soon?
 
well at first I didn't know the PSP was coming out so soon, so I bought a DS. Then I started looking into PSP as the hype was building for the Dec 12 release.

Once PSP was released I found an Ebay seller that lived less than 10 miles away and had the PSP in hand for a "decent" price compared to what was going on on Ebay, so I decided to get it. I've never imported anything so it's the first time I've paid so much for a system, and I guess I'm an impulse buyer so I just couldn't resist lol. I can honestly say as much as I paid for it, I don't regret it because I feel that at $200, Sony really will be losing money, this thing is definitely worth more than $200.

Now that I have the PSP, I'm gonna sell my Ridge Racer DS and Asphalt Urban for DS. They're fun games, but I can't see myself playing those after the beauty that the PSP is. Only reason I'm keeping the DS is for Mario and Wario ware...but I've thought about just selling it all and using the money for PSP games. PSP is basically a PS2 in your hands, with a beautiful screen and analog stick. DS has a small screen, touch screen is not used in many games that I'm interested in except for Wario ware, Yoshi touch and go...Feel the Magic is OK, buttons are really small. There are a bunch more PSP titles I'm interested it.

It's my own opinion, but I definitely like my PSP more than DS. I use my PSP to play MP3's, pictures, movies. DS gets used rarely for a quick game of Mario or Feel the Magic. I spend hours playing Ridge Racers on PSP. Got a few games coming in later this week so I'm sure it will keep me plenty more busy. :lol:
 
I'm torn between deciding which to buy, ds or psp. Guys, can you list the best games coming out for each system that has been announced and the best coming out for each in the next year.
Thank you in advance.
 
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