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Was just bored and wanted to see how everyone voted in the past (why they voted that way try to keep the reply down to 2 or 3 sentences. and who everyone is going to vote for this fall and why and other other little things they had to add

I will start this out to when i started


1992 BUSH VS CLINTON
VOTED CLINTON - why cause bush lied about taxes and thought he was in office way too long

1996 CLINTON VS DOLE
VOTED CLINTON -- why cause i thought he was doing a good job and DOLE was just too old

2000 GORE VS BUSH
VOTED GORE --- why cause i really did not care for bush

2004 BUSH VS KERRY
VOTED DID NOT VOTE ---- Did not think either one of them was worth the vote

2008 OBAMA VS MCCAIN
VOTED DID NOT VOTE --- Obama did not have enough experience and MCCAIN VP picked was awful

2012 OBAMA VS ROMNEY
WILL VOTE ROMNEY --- Obama showed he did not have the experience to be President


Other
Obama loses he should run for congress in the next election and then take some time and see what he did wrong and go back to his roots and stop listening to all of the people whos telling him to do stupid shit .. and RERUN In 2024 after he has more experience .....
 
Just missed 1996 as I turned 18 a week or so after the election, so 2000 was my first year voting.

2000: Gore
2004: Kerry
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
 
Interesting...
2000 GORE VS BUSH
Voted for some no-name third (fourth?) party candidate because I was young, brash and didn't care for any of the main stream names.

2004 BUSH VS KERRY
Voted for... wait for it... John Kerry. I really, really didn't like Bush.

2008 OBAMA VS MCCAIN
Chuck Baldwin. Not my favorite candidate ever, but the best of that bunch.

2012 OBAMA VS ROMNEY
Likely, Gary Johnson. Or I'll just take a dump on the ballot and turn it in. Haven't decided which yet... guess I'm an undecided voter.
 
First time voting was in 2008, and I voted for Obama. I had the opportunity to vote in 2004, but frankly, didn't like either candidate very much.
 
1992 BUSH VS CLINTON
Wasn't voting age yet-Would have voted for Bush or Perot, Bush moreso now, as I've come to appreciate that he was one of the best Presidents we've had in a LOOOOONG time

1996 CLINTON VS DOLE
Think I voted Perot.

2000 GORE VS BUSH
Didn't vote because I hated the choices

2004 BUSH VS KERRY
Didn't vote because I hated the choices

2008 OBAMA VS MCCAIN
Didn't vote because I hated the choices

2012 OBAMA VS ROMNEY
Told myself I was going to vote just so I felt good, and that vote was going to be for Obama, but the civil liberty thing, the extended, continuing, and threatening of wars that he has been pushing, puts him in the same category as Bush II. Romney is slimey, I don't trust him, I think he is just as (chicken)hawkish as Obama, and further ruin America's image overseas. Now I will either not vote because I hate the choices, or write in Ron Paul. It will be fun to see how many write-ins he gets in Oregon. He is very popular here, so I suspect it may actually register.

The only Republican I can think of who I would vote for next election (after Obama crushes Romney in this one) is Chris Christie. I like that he's an anti-politician of sorts, he stands by his views instead of changing based on recent polls (for good and for bad), and frankly...I just get a kick out of him. Assuming Santorum and Bachmann consider running again, I would vote for Hitler over those two (if it weren't for that pesky non-citizen thing)

I don't have a clue who would run for the Democrats, but if it was a compelling choice it would be a hard election for me. While I like Christie, I'm sure he is polar opposite of me on some important issues. Haven't looked into him enough yet.
 
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I don't have a clue who would run for the Democrats, but if it was a compelling choice it would be a hard election for me. [/QUOTE]

Likely front runners for 2016 are Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo (gov. of NY) and Martin O'Malley (gov. of MD).
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Likely front runners for 2016 are Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo (gov. of NY) and Martin O'Malley (gov. of MD).[/QUOTE]

Clinton still? She has been looking VERY ragged these days. I know there's a double-standard for female politicians and all, but based on her appearance (she's aged significantly, put on a lot of weight) I didn't think she would have a chance or the desire. I could be wrong. I would vote for a kick to the testicles over her though.

Don't know enough about Cuomo or O'Malley to say if they would win my vote over a potential Christie election. I suppose I'll see some other contenders during this week's DNC.

Edit-Oh fuck me. Apparently Rush Limbaugh basically said the same thing. That's it. I'm going to hell. I despise that miserable fat bastard Rush. Argh.

http://www.news.com.au/features/are-we-ready-to-see-hillary-age/story-e6frflcr-1111115148250
 
I remember Clinton v (Dole I think it was?) in elementary school and voted for Clinton. I remember we did it in 2004 in high school and and I had no idea who Obama was and I was like WTF? "BAYYRACK OBAMMUHH?". Alan Keys it was *facepalm*. Yeah, torn between voting for Brobama again, leaning towards Johnson but it's one of those "Vote that matters" kind of things.
 
Depends where you live I think, if you live in New York or something it won't sway who the state goes to because it's not a swing state, but if you're in PA like me, it's definitely a 'vote that matters'.
 
[quote name='berzirk']Clinton still? She has been looking VERY ragged these days. I know there's a double-standard for female politicians and all, but based on her appearance (she's aged significantly, put on a lot of weight) I didn't think she would have a chance or the desire. I could be wrong. I would vote for a kick to the testicles over her though.[/QUOTE]

What a douche.

How much you want to bet that berzirk is a real porker (or married to one...)
 
[quote name='camoor']What a douche.

How much you want to bet that berzirk is a real porker (or married to one...)[/QUOTE]
HAHAHA...he's actually pretty thin or at least he was a couple years ago. He posted some stand up he did in another thread. His material was ok, but timing could've used some improvement along with delivery.

As for being a douche, what libertarian isn't?:lol:
 
I don't vote.

If forced at gunpoint, I'd write in Donald Duck or something.

For posterity, I was a neocon in 2004. Glad I decided to lift weights and do wind sprints instead of vote, otherwise I'd have a Bush vote over my head.
 
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[quote name='dohdough']HAHAHA...he's actually pretty thin or at least he was a couple years ago. He posted some stand up he did in another thread. His material was ok, but timing could've used some improvement along with delivery.

As for being a douche, what libertarian isn't?:lol:[/QUOTE]

I don't know - some liberatarians just come off as misguided liberals, but this guy isn't one of them. Berzirk has fully absorbed the bigotry and misogyny of the GOP, and he seems to be particularly angry at women.

Was his standup any good? Doug Stanhope is proof that Libertarians can be funny, but I have a feeling that this guy is no Doug Stanhope.
 
[quote name='camoor']I don't know - some liberatarians just come off as misguided liberals, but this guy isn't one of them. Berzirk has fully absorbed the bigotry and misogyny of the GOP, and he seems to be particularly angry at women.[/quote]
I don't think he's a misguided liberal either, but there's definitely some dissonance going on with him, especially with his views on Malcolm X; it couldn't be more opposite from how the GOP frames him.

Was his standup any good? Doug Stanhope is proof that Libertarians can be funny, but I have a feeling that this guy is no Doug Stanhope.
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Yeah, he was ok. I've seen a lot worse and a lot better. It's a really tough gig, so I'm not going to hold that against him. His politics is another thing though.;)
 
Am I the only one that doesn't like Stanhope? I mean, he has his moments, but he just seems really angry and just complaining instead of actually trying. The "I'm cool enough to smoke while performing" shtick isn't helping either....
 
2004: Kerry
2008: Obama
2012: Johnson

And never not vote, there are local elections that are very important, and if you have initiatives this could fuck up your state beyond all recognition like in California. We have a habit of voting for luxuries and not wanting to pay for them. You fuckers who don't vote could help in that area. If you're going to vote for luxury items, don't vote against taxes.
 
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[quote name='RealDeals']Am I the only one that doesn't like Stanhope? I mean, he has his moments, but he just seems really angry and just complaining instead of actually trying. The "I'm cool enough to smoke while performing" shtick isn't helping either....[/QUOTE]

I don't think Stanhope is the funniest, but something about his act fascinates me. He seems to thrive off of chaos and I find that interesting.
 
McCain vs Obama. Went with McCain pretty much based off experience.

Romney vs Obama. I am leaning towards Romney since I'm really not a huge fan of Obama due to his performance in office. But I haven't made my final decision yet.
 
Can't help but wonder where all this concern for name calling of women was when posters here kept calling Palin a ****.

Oh, that's right - Republican women don't actually count as women.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Can't help but wonder where all this concern for name calling of women was when posters here kept calling Palin a ****.

Oh, that's right - Republican women don't actually count as women.[/QUOTE]


Well, I can at least remember this one.

[quote name='dohdough']I have to side with perdition on this one. Calling her a cunt really isn't necessary when there are so many other insults to use...and I've used plenty.

It's kinda skirting the "I don't hate black people, just n****rs" line.[/QUOTE]

I'm not familiar with the term's history, so I just accept that it's un-objectively hateful and won't use it.
 
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Didn't vote until the last election and I unfortunately voted Obama. Not sure I'll vote this year either, as I most certainly will not vote Obama.
 
[quote name='dohdough']HAHAHA...he's actually pretty thin or at least he was a couple years ago. He posted some stand up he did in another thread. His material was ok, but timing could've used some improvement along with delivery.

As for being a douche, what libertarian isn't?:lol:[/QUOTE]

Whoo hoo! I got to see a Camoor comment thanks to the quote. Since I have him on block, I don't usually get to enjoy those.

Yah, I'm a lean dude. Bout 5'10, 155lbs. I've been trying to beef up a bit though through lifting. I do full frontal too if Camoor is really that interested. I remember from a nutrition thread that Camoor is actually a fatass, so his comment is particularly funny. My wife has had three kids, but she's about 5'7" and 130lbs. She's started working out for the last few weeks hoping to drop about 10-15lbs in baby weight after having our 4mo old. She's cute, and so are my kids.

Regarding my stand-up, I agree, I was just OK. I got paid more often than performing free at open mics, but with only about a year to a year and a half of performing, I'd say I was better than many with that level of experience. A handful of friends who stuck with it have done well for themselves. National headliners, appeared on late night shows. I actually had a great show for this benefit last Spring. My best show ever. I opened for a guy from the Axis of Evil Comedy Tour and he really complimented me heavily, which is usually rare from more established comedians. That was really nice.

I'm a registered Independent and think Libertarians go too far in their no-government mantra.

I'm an Aquarius, and my favorite food is Thai. Anything else I can answer for you Camoor? Doh, do me a solid and quote him so I can be sure not to miss it!
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Can't help but wonder where all this concern for name calling of women was when posters here kept calling Palin a ****.

Oh, that's right - Republican women don't actually count as women.[/QUOTE]

Not talking about name calling.

We're talking about the gender-specific nature of judging a politician's qualities based solely on appearance. Name calling didn't come up until your post.
 
[quote name='berzirk']Whoo hoo! I got to see a Camoor comment thanks to the quote. Since I have him on block, I don't usually get to enjoy those.

Yah, I'm a lean dude. Bout 5'10, 155lbs. I've been trying to beef up a bit though through lifting. I do full frontal too if Camoor is really that interested. I remember from a nutrition thread that Camoor is actually a fatass, so his comment is particularly funny. My wife has had three kids, but she's about 5'7" and 130lbs. She's started working out for the last few weeks hoping to drop about 10-15lbs in baby weight after having our 4mo old. She's cute, and so are my kids.

Regarding my stand-up, I agree, I was just OK. I got paid more often than performing free at open mics, but with only about a year to a year and a half of performing, I'd say I was better than many with that level of experience. A handful of friends who stuck with it have done well for themselves. National headliners, appeared on late night shows. I actually had a great show for this benefit last Spring. My best show ever. I opened for a guy from the Axis of Evil Comedy Tour and he really complimented me heavily, which is usually rare from more established comedians. That was really nice.

I'm a registered Independent and think Libertarians go too far in their no-government mantra.

I'm an Aquarius, and my favorite food is Thai. Anything else I can answer for you Camoor? Doh, do me a solid and quote him so I can be sure not to miss it![/QUOTE]

Sure. How would you feel if your wife was judged solely on the basis of her being overweight? If she lost a job to a different candidate who was less qualified but a normal weight (IE not overweight) and prettier?
 
2000
Would have voted Gore but was 5 months shy of voting age

2004
Didn't care. Even tho I was vocal in my hatred of Bush. Glad I didn't or I would have been pissed more that Kerry lost

2008
First time out and went Obama. Waited in line that was nearly half a mile long for hours. No way was I voting for someone who didn't have the sense to nominate a VP that wasn't a stupid bitch.

2012
If I decide to vote, Obama. Sorry, but Mittens and Ryan can go play hide and go fuck themselves. No way in hell am I voting for some who thinks that rape is "another form of conception" and wants to make a full amendment to the Constitution that makes gay marriage illegal. As I keep saying, your religion is not my government. Its almost to the point that on those two issues, I view a Romney voter as someone that WANTS women and gays like myself to be seen and treated as second class citizens
 
[quote name='camoor']Sure. How would you feel if your wife was judged solely on the basis of her being overweight? If she lost a job to a different candidate who was less qualified but a normal weight (IE not overweight) and prettier?[/QUOTE]

That happened with, I think, Kristine Kraft her name was. She was around Kansas City, Missouri and wanted to be on the air. She was smarter then most of the anchors but she wasn't attractive for air.
I know you're talking to Berzirk but I figured I'd give a little history here. I believe she was rewarded but the company still was allowed NOT to put her on air.
Shame really.

Oh and if anyone wants to talk about Republican women the truth is that truly Conservative White women Republican pundits(the one's who get on air) almost always tend to be ugly. Christine O'Donnell, moderate. Meagan McCain, moderate. Anne Coulture, ugly. I'll take Michelle Malkin or Amy Holmes any day over these women in terms of looks(doesn't help that Coulture is ugly as fuck on the inside). Palin has a horse face(I'm looking at you Hillary Swank) but a great body. I believe Phyllis Schaffly is ugly as well.
I threw in the dig at Swank because I believe she left her boyfriend or husband shortly after getting the Oscar.
Though some of the women Democrats don't help things. I think Pelosi honestly looks worse probably because of getting Botox(terrible example for her daughter when the Democrat side is not suppose to be all about the physical looks as much).
I'm sure my post will get ripped apart by a certain person since I sound like such an ass in this.

Edit: Almost forgot, will likely vote Johnson or write in Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney. Since Johnson isn't ex-CIA like Bob Barr then I'm leaning towards him. If the Green party would show bigger numbers in my state I'd vote them instead. Bottom line is that we need a third party. I'm sick and tired of having to choose between a "Douchebag and a shit sandwich".
 
[quote name='Sarang01']That happened with, I think, Kristine Kraft her name was. She was around Kansas City, Missouri and wanted to be on the air. She was smarter then most of the anchors but she wasn't attractive for air.
I know you're talking to Berzirk but I figured I'd give a little history here. I believe she was rewarded but the company still was allowed NOT to put her on air.
Shame really.[/QUOTE]

It is a shame, and my only point was that it's easy for Bezirk to objectify women but I wonder how he would feel if his wife was the victim of objectification.

Also that he's a sexist pig :D
 
To camoor: ...seriously? You don't think people's apperances play a role in politics and their success? Have you ever heard the phrase so and so "doesn't LOOK Presidential?" As shallow as it is, appearances play a huge role in politics. So I'm a Ron Paul fan, but the fact that apparently nobody can find him a suit that fits, makes him always look withery and dying. It's like he's always wearing a women's medium jacket.

Bob Dole looked too old to be President. McCain had those tumors removed from his face, and along with age it all made him look very stale. John Edwards "looked Presidential" but was a creep. Kucinich looks like some sort of LOTR creature. Chris Christie is really, really fat. Many people worry that his obesity is a reason why people won't vote for him. So while it's not nice, and it's not fair that someone that looks good advances more often in politics and business than someone who is ugly...it's a reality.

This even applies in medicine. I have a friend who is a doctor. She's in her early 30's but looks young. Patients have come to see her, she does a good job with them, but they comment that she looks so young that they doubt her credentials. It happens everywhere.
 
[quote name='berzirk']To camoor: ...seriously? You don't think people's apperances play a role in politics and their success? Have you ever heard the phrase so and so "doesn't LOOK Presidential?" As shallow as it is, appearances play a huge role in politics. So I'm a Ron Paul fan, but the fact that apparently nobody can find him a suit that fits, makes him always look withery and dying. It's like he's always wearing a women's medium jacket.

Bob Dole looked too old to be President. McCain had those tumors removed from his face, and along with age it all made him look very stale. John Edwards "looked Presidential" but was a creep. Kucinich looks like some sort of LOTR creature. Chris Christie is really, really fat. Many people worry that his obesity is a reason why people won't vote for him. So while it's not nice, and it's not fair that someone that looks good advances more often in politics and business than someone who is ugly...it's a reality.

This even applies in medicine. I have a friend who is a doctor. She's in her early 30's but looks young. Patients have come to see her, she does a good job with them, but they comment that she looks so young that they doubt her credentials. It happens everywhere.[/QUOTE]

I've never heard anyone say that Hilary's appearance will affect her health. She isn't especially old, she isn't morbidly obese, there really isn't anything about her appearance that implies that she is not in reasonable health. Comparing her to Chris Christie is laughable.

So don't play that card. Attack her policy, attack her political actions, heck if you don't think she's dressed appropriately then say it, that's all fair game. When you attack her for looking "ragged" and putting on a few pounds it's sexist.
 
1996 CLINTON VS DOLE
Not yet a citizen

2000 GORE VS BUSH
Gore because Bush seemed like such a doofus

2004 BUSH VS KERRY
Nader because Bush proved himseld to be a doofus and Kerry wasn't the Kerry that we recently saw

2008 OBAMA VS MCCAIN
Obama, Palin was terrible and 8 years of GOP was bad enough

2012 OBAMA VS ROMNEY
Obama, Romney is just a moldy twat.


Voted for Franken because Norm Coleman is just an opportunistic turncoat. Would have voted for Wellstone had he not died. I met him at some function in '97 or '98 and he remembered me 3 years later. That's absurd.
 
[quote name='berzirk']To camoor: ...seriously? You don't think people's apperances play a role in politics and their success? Have you ever heard the phrase so and so "doesn't LOOK Presidential?" As shallow as it is, appearances play a huge role in politics. So I'm a Ron Paul fan, but the fact that apparently nobody can find him a suit that fits, makes him always look withery and dying. It's like he's always wearing a women's medium jacket.

Bob Dole looked too old to be President. McCain had those tumors removed from his face, and along with age it all made him look very stale. John Edwards "looked Presidential" but was a creep. Kucinich looks like some sort of LOTR creature. Chris Christie is really, really fat. Many people worry that his obesity is a reason why people won't vote for him. So while it's not nice, and it's not fair that someone that looks good advances more often in politics and business than someone who is ugly...it's a reality.

This even applies in medicine. I have a friend who is a doctor. She's in her early 30's but looks young. Patients have come to see her, she does a good job with them, but they comment that she looks so young that they doubt her credentials. It happens everywhere.[/QUOTE]

I've never heard anyone say that men like Paul, Dole, McCain, or Kucinich shouldn't run for office because of their appearance.

I don't think that your doctor example works well either. People are judging her age, not her appearance.

To keep my post on topic - Gore, Kerry, Obama, and, most likely Obama. I'm not entirely happy with Obama's first term, but, between Obama, Romney and the third party candidates that I know about, Obama looks the best.
 
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[quote name='chiwii']I've never heard anyone say that men like Paul, Dole, McCain, or Kucinich shouldn't run for office because of their appearance.

I don't think that your doctor example works well either. People are judging her age, not her appearance.

To keep my post on topic - Gore, Kerry, Obama, and, most likely Obama. I'm not entirely happy with Obama's first term, but, between Obama, Romney and the third party candidates that I know about, Obama looks the best.[/QUOTE]

The doc example was based on her appearance. She's in her early 30's, quite a good doctor both academically, and experience wise. She just...looks too young to be a doctor.

But back to politicians, I didn't say they shouldn't run for office. Who was the last obese or dreadfully unattractive President we've had? Jimmy Carter was pretty goofy looking I assume. The phrase "look Presidential" is a real belief. How much has Ryan's appearance, physique, and fitness info (thanks to some of his lies) been mentioned? Quite a bit. Romney's politics may suck, but he looks Presidential.

Again, I'm not saying it's fair, but a person's appearance means a great deal in something as vain and self-important as politics.
 
Few people come out and directly say someone shouldn't run for office based on their looks, but there are studies out there that measure attractiveness, height etc. of candidates and find a relationship between appearance (being rated attractive--or being tall/think vs short or fat etc.) and winning public office.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Few people come out and directly say someone shouldn't run for office based on their looks, but there are studies out there that measure attractiveness, height etc. of candidates and find a relationship between appearance (being rated attractive--or being tall/think vs short or fat etc.) and winning public office.[/QUOTE]

PRECISELY! Symmetry of face is another one of those common factors.
 
[quote name='berzirk']The doc example was based on her appearance. She's in her early 30's, quite a good doctor both academically, and experience wise. She just...looks too young to be a doctor.

But back to politicians, I didn't say they shouldn't run for office. Who was the last obese or dreadfully unattractive President we've had? Jimmy Carter was pretty goofy looking I assume. The phrase "look Presidential" is a real belief. How much has Ryan's appearance, physique, and fitness info (thanks to some of his lies) been mentioned? Quite a bit. Romney's politics may suck, but he looks Presidential.

Again, I'm not saying it's fair, but a person's appearance means a great deal in something as vain and self-important as politics.[/QUOTE]

Regarding the doctor - the issue is really her age (or their perception of her age). It's just not the same as judging her appearance. They think "This person is too young to be a doctor," not "This person is too pretty or too ugly to be a doctor."

My point regarding the male politicians was that you notice their appearances, but you don't say that they shouldn't run for office. On the other hand, you notice Hillary's "ragged" appearance and suggest that she shouldn't run for the presidency in 2016 (at least that's how I took your post).
 
1992: Too young but would have voted Perot. I wanted to go into manufacturing and what is now known as NAFTA sounded like a bad idea.
It was!

1996: Dole; Clinton just always struck me as a used-car salesman. Just too 'slick'.

2000: Bush: As a center-right conservative, Gore never said one thing that struck a chord with me. The 'compassionate conservatism' Bush was selling did.

2004: Kerry: When they trotted out Gen. Powell with the PowerPoint WMD drawings, I was suspect. When Bush said he really didnt care about finding OBL, I was done. Voted for Edwards in the primary (*) though.

2008: Obama: Stunned that he won Iowa and became a legit candidate. Though his 2004 DNC speech was great and besides the experience, set up the contrast better than Kerry/Edwards.

2012: Obama: and it isnt even a choice. If Mitt ran on his "Governor" Romney record, I actually think he could have won. But his pandering to the far right is just unbearable. I would have given consideration to Pawlenty or Huntsman. In the primary (*), I voted for Ron Paul.

(*) I'm not (and have never been) registered to any party. Virginia has open primaries.
 
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[quote name='chiwii']Regarding the doctor - the issue is really her age (or their perception of her age). It's just not the same as judging her appearance. They think "This person is too young to be a doctor," not "This person is too pretty or too ugly to be a doctor."

My point regarding the male politicians was that you notice their appearances, but you don't say that they shouldn't run for office. On the other hand, you notice Hillary's "ragged" appearance and suggest that she shouldn't run for the presidency in 2016 (at least that's how I took your post).[/QUOTE]

I didn't say she shouldn't run. What the hell would my opinion mean on any of it anyway? Hillary is going to read it and say, "Oh, berzirk on CAG says I've been looking ragged, so I'm not going to run?" I would be surprised if she ran personally. But I also listed out several politicians who's appearance I think reduces their chances for success...all males by the way. Christie being fat. Dole/McCain being old, (Dole also being handicapped, and McCain with skin issues on his face which compounded it). Kucinich looking like a bridge troll. Romney looks the part even though his politics blow. Ron Paul does not look the part. Hell, think back to FDR and how they wouldn't show him in a wheelchair because he would look weak!

Hey, if the ugliest person on the face of the earth wants to run for political office, and I like their politics, I'll vote for them, I'm just saying, for something that is as presentation-oriented, and image conscious as politics, a bad physical appearance is an obtacle to overcome. I didn't think that was such a divisive thing to say.
 
[quote name='berzirk']Clinton still? She has been looking VERY ragged these days. I know there's a double-standard for female politicians and all, but based on her appearance (she's aged significantly, put on a lot of weight) I didn't think she would have a chance or the desire. I could be wrong. I would vote for a kick to the testicles over her though.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='berzirk']But I also listed out several politicians who's appearance I think reduces their chances for success...all males by the way. Christie being fat.[/QUOTE]

Hillary Clinton, who "put on a lot of weight":
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Chris Christie:
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You're a trip berzirk :lol:
 
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