Why are Ebay sellers so possessive?

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Why are Ebay sellers so possessive of their pictures? You click on one of their pics accidentally and a box comes up "No stealing my pics. Get a camera JERK!!" or something like that.

I don't care if someone steals my pic when I'm selling stuff on Ebay, so long as it's after the auction ends - and whatever they're selling is in as good of condition as my picture. Not like most sellers are really that concerned with other sellers' integrity anyway.

Any comments?
 
I believe it goes back to the whole issue of people having their pictures stolen, identity theft, hotlinking, etc. Alot of people take offense when someone else uses their pictures, which is techinally their property once its created. Some people are just possesive that way.
 
if i went to the trouble of taking a picture of the item i'm selling (and not just using a stock photo), i would prefer that other sellers don't use my pictures. once i was selling a cd and a few days later another copy popped up and the guy used the exact same description AND picture that i was using. it didn't bother me enough to actually email the guy or anything, but it was pretty lame.
 
I see no problem with using others stock photos, as they are not pictures of the actual item anyway. But it's wrong to use others personal photos, especially when it is not disclosed that it is not a photo of the actual product.
 
Yeah, I usually try to use stock photos. Or if I use someone else's photos, I always make sure to say in the description that it's not the same item as in the photo.
 
If it is a used item. I feel that it is fraud to use someone else's picture of the product. They are trying to misrepresent what they are selling.
 
If you wanted to take someone's picture, couldn't you just use View Source and see the source address?

Then again, if you're too lazy to get/host your own picture, that's probably too much work. (though not all that do this are necessarily lazy)
 
[quote name='PsyClerk']If you wanted to take someone's picture, couldn't you just use View Source and see the source address?

Then again, if you're too lazy to get/host your own picture, that's probably too much work. (though not all that do this are necessarily lazy)[/quote]

Well, you can always just save the photo to your hard drive and then upload it for free when you initially put the item up for bid.
 
Its also buried in the ebay user agreement that is against the
rules to use others pics. I have no problem personally
on new items. But when a seller goes the extra effort to
show front, back & sides of a partricular item. One should
not steal their pics.

Also saying that one sells for a few bucks less gives them
the right to use them is pretty crass IMO.
 
Isn't someone taking a picture of something, technically their 'creative work'? Yes, it's a Sony PS1, but it's *my* PS1, and *my* picture.
Apart from the fraud issue [the second seller representing a product via photo that he's not selling], it goes into overhead. Best Buy has already paid for their store, so why can't I just stand outside their store selling my dvd's? That's their building, their salaries, etc, and for me to 'leech' onto their business is wrong.
I use stock photos for stock items [a dvd or game in like-new shape, so a picture of the specific item doesn't really benefit anyone] but I either use Ebay's stock photos, which are there for a reason, or I link to the manufacturer's website, [which usually doesn't sell the product directly], and say something like 'As seen in the manufacturer's picture below.'
Ebay lets you post one picture free, and they host it on their server, I believe.
 
Many times I want to see the condition of an item before buying it. For example, if I win a "new" strategy guide with a photo showing it looking like it's in great shape, only to receive a beat up guide with pages falling out, I'd be p.o.'d. I think the pictures should show the actual item for sale, not just some stock photo (with exceptions, of course).
 
I always host my own pics, and as a buyer I would appreciate if they used a pic of the actual item if it's preowned, but brand new, I don't care.

People put stock pics of games on eBay all the time. But you read the description and it says something like, "CD only, no instructions or back insert." Then you look at the picure and it looks brand new.

I don't care what the game looks like if it was perfect, instead, how bought they stop being lazy and take a picture of the actual product. Do that or don't use a picture at all.
 
in my auctions, i use stock photos for all my brand new items as long as they're in perfect shape. if i don't take a picture of my items, i don't use a picture at all. i think "borrowing" other peoples pictures is wrong b/c it's not the "exact" same item you're selling.

if somebody used my pictures, i would be worried that somebody would hold me responsible for the items if it didn't accurately interpret their product. even if somebody asked for my permission, i'd only give it if they showed me the item in person :lol:
 
The funny thing is that they think that with a bit of javascript they can prevent somebody from saving the picture.

You send it to the browser, it's there. No way to protect it. End of story.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']Isn't someone taking a picture of something, technically their 'creative work'? Yes, it's a Sony PS1, but it's *my* PS1, and *my* picture.
Apart from the fraud issue [the second seller representing a product via photo that he's not selling], it goes into overhead. Best Buy has already paid for their store, so why can't I just stand outside their store selling my dvd's? That's their building, their salaries, etc, and for me to 'leech' onto their business is wrong.
I use stock photos for stock items [a dvd or game in like-new shape, so a picture of the specific item doesn't really benefit anyone] but I either use Ebay's stock photos, which are there for a reason, or I link to the manufacturer's website, [which usually doesn't sell the product directly], and say something like 'As seen in the manufacturer's picture below.'
Ebay lets you post one picture free, and they host it on their server, I believe.[/quote]

Actually, photos are public information, unless the owner gets it copywritten. A photo that's not copywritten can be used in any way, shape or form that I want to. That's why you see these photos all over the internet that are changed and manipulated. The owners, unless they copy right it, can do nothing about it.

Now, with ebay, it might be different. Ebay may say that all the photos that are uploaded to their site, are owned and copyrighted with ebay. So, I'm not too sure on that one.

But like a military newspaper, it's is public record, so any Joe-Schmo can come by and manipulate those photos however they want. But with a civilian newspaper, you can't use any text or photos without their consent.
 
[quote name='eldad9']The funny thing is that they think that with a bit of javascript they can prevent somebody from saving the picture.

You send it to the browser, it's there. No way to protect it. End of story.[/quote]

But then you run the risk of it not being able to display on potential bidders' computers.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
Actually, photos are public information, unless the owner gets it copywritten. A photo that's not copywritten can be used in any way, shape or form that I want to. That's why you see these photos all over the internet that are changed and manipulated. The owners, unless they copy right it, can do nothing about it.

But like a military newspaper, it's is public record, so any Joe-Schmo can come by and manipulate those photos however they want. But with a civilian newspaper, you can't use any text or photos without their consent.[/quote]
Wrong:

Copyright protection arises automatically when an "original" work of authorship is "fixed" in a tangible medium of expression. Registration with the Copyright Office is optional (but you have to register before you file an infringement suit, and registering early will make you eligible to receive attorney's fees and statutory damages in a future lawsuit).

(from http://www.timestream.com/stuff/neatstuff/mmlaw.html )
 
[quote name='PsyClerk'][quote name='eldad9']The funny thing is that they think that with a bit of javascript they can prevent somebody from saving the picture.

You send it to the browser, it's there. No way to protect it. End of story.[/quote]

But then you run the risk of it not being able to display on potential bidders' computers.[/quote]

Huh? no.

If you're talking about including an image that's in somebody else's site, that's really stealing bandwith, and a rotten thing to do (and probably illegal - theft of resources).

But if you mean saving an image locally, then using it for your auction - what risk are you referring to? It's the same graphic image, and will display correctly if the original did.
 
My mistake, I misread your post and thought you were saying you could use javascript to keep the image from being saved. I was getting at the same thing you were.
 
[quote name='eldad9']Wrong:

Copyright protection arises automatically when an "original" work of authorship is "fixed" in a tangible medium of expression. Registration with the Copyright Office is optional (but you have to register before you file an infringement suit, and registering early will make you eligible to receive attorney's fees and statutory damages in a future lawsuit).

(from http://www.timestream.com/stuff/neatstuff/mmlaw.html )[/quote]

Ooops, that's my bad. You are right. According to the Berne copyright convention just about everything is copywritten when the author makes it. I'm just used to writing for a military newspaper and having no ability to copyright anything. Military news, however, is all public record and it's not copywritten.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='eldad9']Wrong:

Copyright protection arises automatically when an "original" work of authorship is "fixed" in a tangible medium of expression. Registration with the Copyright Office is optional (but you have to register before you file an infringement suit, and registering early will make you eligible to receive attorney's fees and statutory damages in a future lawsuit).

(from http://www.timestream.com/stuff/neatstuff/mmlaw.html )[/quote]

Ooops, that's my bad. You are right. According to the Berne copyright convention just about everything is copywritten when the author makes it. I'm just used to writing for a military newspaper and having no ability to copyright anything. Military news, however, is all public record and it's not copywritten.[/quote]

What base man I do the same thing for the AF at Barksdale La
 
damn man i forgot that was the name u were using. And no its true I can not park an F-150 but I do pay off bets I lose in a timely fashion
 
Like someone else said, it is against EBay policy to use some else's picture and if you see someone else using your picture, you can report it to Ebay and the usually will shut down their auction.

And if they are linking from the picture on your site and using your bandwith, I hear that people often change the image being displayed instead of the item. Like if a seller had a picture of a PS2 game that they were hosting and another seller linked to that picture for their auction, the owner of the picture could replace the PS2 game picture with a picture of something else (use your imagination for that one :lol: )
 
[quote name='jlarlee']damn man i forgot that was the name u were using. And no its true I can not park an F-150 but I do pay off bets I lose in a timely fashion[/quote]

Hahaha, you fuggin' arsehole! I'll send you that blasted money today.
 
You can fix it so an image can't be saved, but can be viewed in a browser.
I don't know how to do it, but I've seen sites where clicking on a picture brings the pic up in its own window, and then clicking your mouse at all closes the picture. Also, I've seen where the right-click menu [which is normally where 'Save picture as' is] is disabled.
Regarding the 'funny' pics you see on the net, a lot of them aren't used for commercial gain so it might not be worth the time and money of the pic owner to hunt down the editors; also, many of the joke pics I guess fall under the 'satire' clause of copy protection. In general, I would think most companies/people might not care, as long as: * they get credit for the original pic, * the edited pic isn't defamatory or obscene * and it doesn't use another trademarked image in a negative connotation.
 
yea, if its a stock photo, or photo from company it shouldnt make a difference. but if its a actual photo i feel that its very very wrong and immoral. I myself sell plenty of Louis Vuitton gear, and other high end items, and if my actual picture gets stolen some1 can be selling a fake one, and passing it off with my picture! vandalism! i wouldnt be such a prick to code it so you cant even right click it thou. (even thou that is so easy to bypass) i'd jus put my id on the photo where they cant cut it, like ontop of the actual item.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']You can fix it so an image can't be saved, but can be viewed in a browser.[/quote]

No, you can't.

You can make it a little difficult for people using particular browsers.

Here's a stupid way to do it - but it will convince you. there are much easier ways.

* empty browser cache
* load image
* find image in browser cache.
 
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