Why do people from the North feel superior to people from the South?

[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='Drocket'][quote name='JSweeney']The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation.[/quote]
It was never intended to. It was simply used by people who didn't have enough room (in an ad or banner) to spell out Christmas, so they simply put the completely acceptible abbreviation Xmas there instead. Then, the uneducated, unwashed masses rose up and started screaming about everyone being out to get them.[/quote]

While that was never the intent, that is the current practical use of the phrase. After recieving pushback on it, companies wide stopped the use (Why wouldn't they... they'd have to lose business over so trival a thing)

For good or for ill, the usage of Xmas has a negative connotion, and most sources (dictionaries, etc) will make mention of that.

Of course, this has all been gone over in depth in another topic.[/quote]

Xmas has a negative connotation? Since when? Wikipedia, what say you? "That's tosser talk, if you ask me!" Straight Dope? You have an opinion on that? "I concur with the right honorable Wiki, sirrah."
 
[quote name='Drocket'][quote name='elprincipe']I think the problem is you feel people can separate their religious feelings from the rest of their "secular" lives.[/quote]
Rational people can. Rational people can say, "This is how I feel about the subject, but this is what the law says, so that's what I'll do because my job is to enforce the law, not to abuse my power based on my own personal feelings." Its only utter idiots who have difficulty with that and think its perfectly OK to put the 10 commandments outside a courthouse or other similar idiocy.

Sadly, there are very few rational people in the world.[/quote]

It has nothing to do with respecting the law or not respecting the law. It's about how you conduct yourself personally and your own morality (or lack thereof).
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='Drocket'][quote name='JSweeney']The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation.[/quote]
It was never intended to. It was simply used by people who didn't have enough room (in an ad or banner) to spell out Christmas, so they simply put the completely acceptible abbreviation Xmas there instead. Then, the uneducated, unwashed masses rose up and started screaming about everyone being out to get them.[/quote]

While that was never the intent, that is the current practical use of the phrase. After recieving pushback on it, companies wide stopped the use (Why wouldn't they... they'd have to lose business over so trival a thing)

For good or for ill, the usage of Xmas has a negative connotion, and most sources (dictionaries, etc) will make mention of that.

Of course, this has all been gone over in depth in another topic.[/quote]

Well, since "t" looks more like the cross then "x", Bush has just proposed naming it texmas
 
Xmas has a negative connotation? Since when? Wikipedia, what say you? "That's tosser talk, if you ask me!"

Bother to read that before you posted it?

4th paragraph, first line.
The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ



Straight Dope? You have an opinion on that?
"I concur with the right honorable Wiki, sirrah."

Unfortunately, that talks about the origin of the usage, and not the current perception, making it out of scope...Not to mention that I've not heard any invoking the Greek Character "Chi" but rather the English Character "X".

Like I said, this discussion was beaten to death in another topic.
This is well trod ground by now.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='Drocket'][quote name='JSweeney']The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation.[/quote]
It was never intended to. It was simply used by people who didn't have enough room (in an ad or banner) to spell out Christmas, so they simply put the completely acceptible abbreviation Xmas there instead. Then, the uneducated, unwashed masses rose up and started screaming about everyone being out to get them.[/quote]

While that was never the intent, that is the current practical use of the phrase. After recieving pushback on it, companies wide stopped the use (Why wouldn't they... they'd have to lose business over so trival a thing)

For good or for ill, the usage of Xmas has a negative connotion, and most sources (dictionaries, etc) will make mention of that.

Of course, this has all been gone over in depth in another topic.[/quote]

Well, since "t" looks more like the cross then "x", Bush has just proposed naming it texmas[/quote]

Would we all get cowboy hats?
 
It is because I live in the South, and I see very bad things. I have been to West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern states.

I have seen so much bigotry, racism, and ignorance it makes me incredibly sad.
I have seen KKK members in full costume.

People aren't supposed to live like that, and children shouldn't have to grow up in an environment of hate.

I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Xmas has a negative connotation? Since when? Wikipedia, what say you? "That's tosser talk, if you ask me!"

Bother to read that before you posted it?

4th paragraph, first line.
The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ



Straight Dope? You have an opinion on that?
"I concur with the right honorable Wiki, sirrah."

Unfortunately, that talks about the origin of the usage, and not the current perception, making it out of scope...Not to mention that I've not heard any invoking the Greek Character "Chi" but rather the English Character "X".

Like I said, this discussion was beaten to death in another topic.
This is well trod ground by now.[/quote]

Here's a hint: look up what the Greek character for chi looks like and get back to me.

The point is, it's been used for a long time, and by early Christians themselves. People getting their panties in a knot about it now doesn't make it have a sinister history like you seem to have implied numerous times nor does it actually make it about consumerism over the religious aspects of the holiday. It may be well trod ground, but I don't recall the correct verdict being reached. There's nothing wicked about using Xmas, nor has there ever been and all the shrill fundie whining in the world today doesn't change that.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']It is because I live in the South, and I see very bad things. I have been to West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern states.

I have seen so much bigotry, racism, and ignorance it makes me incredibly sad.
I have seen KKK members in full costume.

People aren't supposed to live like that, and children shouldn't have to grow up in an environment of hate.

I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.[/quote]

I've seen the exact same thing in the Northern States that I've lived in...
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']It is because I live in the South, and I see very bad things. I have been to West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern states.

I have seen so much bigotry, racism, and ignorance it makes me incredibly sad.
I have seen KKK members in full costume.

People aren't supposed to live like that, and children shouldn't have to grow up in an environment of hate.

I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.[/quote]

Define very large minority and cite statisitics, please, because you're making an awful insulting insinuation about the south there.

edit: spelling.
 
[quote name='jmcc'][quote name='Quackzilla']It is because I live in the South, and I see very bad things. I have been to West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern states.

I have seen so much bigotry, racism, and ignorance it makes me incredibly sad.
I have seen KKK members in full costume.

People aren't supposed to live like that, and children shouldn't have to grow up in an environment of hate.

I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.[/quote]

Define very large minority and cite statisitics, please, because you're making an awful insulting insinuation about the south there.

edit: spelling.[/quote]

I don't have a statistic.

I was describing my personal experiences and never gave a statistic on the amount of people that are like that, I just called them a minority.
 
You are wrong if you think the South has a monopoly on racism, bigotry and all of those other awful things. These types of mindsets and behaviors are found in societies around the world and through time.
 
[quote name='gaelan']You are wrong if you think the South has a monopoly on racism, bigotry and all of those other awful things. These types of mindsets and behaviors are found in societies around the world and through time.[/quote]

I didn't say that nor did I imply that.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla'][quote name='gaelan']You are wrong if you think the South has a monopoly on racism, bigotry and all of those other awful things. These types of mindsets and behaviors are found in societies around the world and through time.[/quote]

I didn't say that nor did I imply that.[/quote]

Then I guess you are not wrong, hence the "if" in my post.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla'][quote name='jmcc'][quote name='Quackzilla']It is because I live in the South, and I see very bad things. I have been to West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern states.

I have seen so much bigotry, racism, and ignorance it makes me incredibly sad.
I have seen KKK members in full costume.

People aren't supposed to live like that, and children shouldn't have to grow up in an environment of hate.

I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.[/quote]

Define very large minority and cite statisitics, please, because you're making an awful insulting insinuation about the south there.

edit: spelling.[/quote]

I don't have a statistic.

I was describing my personal experiences and never gave a statistic on the amount of people that are like that, I just called them a minority.[/quote]

[quote name='Scrubking']I know that not all of the southern US is like that, it is a minority. But it is a very large minority.[/quote]

So your personal experience qualifies you to make that statement? So if I knew a black guy who stole a candy bar I could reasonably make the statement that a very large minority of all black people are thieves?
 
So your personal experience qualifies you to make that statement? So if I knew a black guy who stole a candy bar I could reasonably make the statement that a very large minority of all black people are thieves?
Click to expand...

*hides candy bar from sight*
 
I didn't state it as fact.

You are just in a hissy because you were arguing about how telephone polls accurately represent the opinions of all Americans, which is totally ignorant.
 
[quote name='jmcc'][quote name='JSweeney']Xmas has a negative connotation? Since when? Wikipedia, what say you? "That's tosser talk, if you ask me!"

Bother to read that before you posted it?

4th paragraph, first line.
The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ



Straight Dope? You have an opinion on that?
"I concur with the right honorable Wiki, sirrah."

Unfortunately, that talks about the origin of the usage, and not the current perception, making it out of scope...Not to mention that I've not heard any invoking the Greek Character "Chi" but rather the English Character "X".

Like I said, this discussion was beaten to death in another topic.
This is well trod ground by now.[/quote]

Here's a hint: look up what the Greek character for chi looks like and get back to me.

The point is, it's been used for a long time, and by early Christians themselves. People getting their panties in a knot about it now doesn't make it have a sinister history like you seem to have implied numerous times nor does it actually make it about consumerism over the religious aspects of the holiday. It may be well trod ground, but I don't recall the correct verdict being reached. There's nothing wicked about using Xmas, nor has there ever been and all the shrill fundie whining in the world today doesn't change that.[/quote]

The fact that it bothers you doesn't change the fact that some find it offensive. To completely dismiss thier feelings as "radical" or that they are "fundies" is just dodging the issue at hand.

The "correct" verdict? Is that the one you subscribe to? Can there really be a "correct" verdict when emotion is concerned?

While I don't disagree with the bulk of what you said, you do neglect the fact that some do find it offensive. That still does not change.
In a format where words are so easily dismissable, why even bother using an abreviation or word that could be inflamatory?
Faggot has a couple of other definitions, but I think I'll be refering to bundles of stick or cigarates as what they are rather than stomp around using a term that is know to be offensive to some.

Everything you say will not change the fact that the abreviation has a negative conotation in the eyes of some. Sources you qoute even state that.

It's better to respect that some people will take issue with it, even if you disagree with the thought process that takes them there or not. You just seem refuse to respect those beliefs that some hold.

Current history is just as valid in examining the eitology and conotations a word holds as ancient history is, and the same sources you qoute note that some do find the abreviation offensive. To say that this rises completely out of ignorance or fundamentalism is ridiculous.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='jmcc'][quote name='JSweeney']Xmas has a negative connotation? Since when? Wikipedia, what say you? "That's tosser talk, if you ask me!"

Bother to read that before you posted it?

4th paragraph, first line.
The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ



Straight Dope? You have an opinion on that?
"I concur with the right honorable Wiki, sirrah."

Unfortunately, that talks about the origin of the usage, and not the current perception, making it out of scope...Not to mention that I've not heard any invoking the Greek Character "Chi" but rather the English Character "X".

Like I said, this discussion was beaten to death in another topic.
This is well trod ground by now.[/quote]

Here's a hint: look up what the Greek character for chi looks like and get back to me.

The point is, it's been used for a long time, and by early Christians themselves. People getting their panties in a knot about it now doesn't make it have a sinister history like you seem to have implied numerous times nor does it actually make it about consumerism over the religious aspects of the holiday. It may be well trod ground, but I don't recall the correct verdict being reached. There's nothing wicked about using Xmas, nor has there ever been and all the shrill fundie whining in the world today doesn't change that.[/quote]

The fact that it bothers you doesn't change the fact that some find it offensive. To completely dismiss thier feelings as "radical" or that they are "fundies" is just dodging the issue at hand.

The "correct" verdict? Is that the one you subscribe to? Can there really be a "correct" verdict when emotion is concerned?

While I don't disagree with the bulk of what you said, you do neglect the fact that some do find it offensive. That still does not change.
In a format where words are so easily dismissable, why even bother using an abreviation or word that could be inflamatory?
E.T. has a couple of other definitions, but I think I'll be refering to bundles of stick or cigarates as what they are rather than stomp around using a term that is know to be offensive to some.

Everything you say will not change the fact that the abreviation has a negative conotation in the eyes of some. Sources you qoute even state that.

It's better to respect that some people will take issue with it, even if you disagree with the thought process that takes them there or not. You just seem refuse to respect those beliefs that some hold.

Current history is just as valid in examining the eitology and conotations a word holds as ancient history is, and the same sources you qoute note that some do find the abreviation offensive. To say that this rises completely out of ignorance or fundamentalism is ridiculous.[/quote]

It clearly does rise completely out of ignorance. It's never been offensive, has been an acceptable abbreviation for centuries now and was invented by Christians for Christians. So what do you call people who try to make an issue where there isn't one in order to inject even more Jesus into an already Jesus-centric holiday? I call that fundimentalism.
 
What jmcc said: of COURSE its ignorance. It was a perfectly valid and acceptable abbreviation for centuries, at least among the educated (both religious and not.) Then it was used in an ad, where the uneducated could see it, and instead of questioning why exactly someone used that abbreviation, they threw a bit hissy fit.

Then, when they were told what it meant, instead of doing the intelligent thing and saying "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Never mind", they refused to back down. They quite literally REFUSED to be educated. They not only don't seek out knowledge, they refuse knowledge that's handed to them. They prefer forcing others to do things their way over being right.

If you don't call that ignorance and fundamentalism, what exactly would it be?
 
I see the Sweenus's point. The commercialization of the holiday season in general is pretty ugly, but saying Xmas is a sign of it simply isn't true. It's akin to demanding people stop using the full spelling of Christmas because ads feature it, too. I personally am not going to give up a convenient abbreviation because some corporate dongs use it too.
 
The issue of race is not just a southern phenomenon. Some of the largest race riots took place in cities like detroit and watts, not to mention that california just might be the most racist state in the union.

i do agree that the south has a terrible education system. But, it is getting better, and will continue to do so. I have lived in the South my whole life, and i have met right wing wackos and way far left nutjobs.

the South has gotten a bad wrap ever since, what a lot of people down here call, THE WAR, and the North has never really forgiven the southern region for it. Boston accents sound just as retarted as Mississippi accents, but i would rather have people having those mannerisms than being exactly the same.

AND. . . .the South has the best football. bar none.

AND. . . .Virginia is no longer the South.
 
In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.[/quote]

Source?
 
[quote name='jmcc'][quote name='Quackzilla']In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.[/quote]

Source?[/quote]

http://www.johnjemerson.com/zizka.lincoln.htm

It was a TV news report from ABC 13, I can't find it on the website, it may have been purged.

I did find a related link though, but you had to see the story with the interviews and all. It was horrid.

Btw, how do you like your humble pie?
 
I find it funny that people in the south complain that people in the north bash them, but feel free to refer to northerners as "liberal elitists" or "city slickers".
 
[quote name='ZarathosNY']I find it funny that people in the south complain that people in the north bash them, but feel free to refer to northerners as "liberal elitists" or "city slickers".[/quote]

Have you heard a real Southerner use those words? The reason I ask is that I have lived in the South most of my life, and I have never heard anyone use those words. I've seen the movie City Slickers, and I heard liberal elitist used on talk radio. I have heard Yankee used a bunch, but not typically in a derogatory manner.
 
Quack has a point with alabama, not so much pro slavery but for being racist. I was reading the link he posted and that linked to another site, claiming in 2000 interracial marriage was struck down, but 40% of people voted for it to remain illegal. I googled it and it turned out to be true.

link

It also stated that it took south carolina until 98 to do the same, with 38% in favor of it remaining illegal. Obviously these bans weren't enforced, but they still had sizeable support.
 
[quote name='gaelan'][quote name='ZarathosNY']I find it funny that people in the south complain that people in the north bash them, but feel free to refer to northerners as "liberal elitists" or "city slickers".[/quote]

Have you heard a real Southerner use those words? The reason I ask is that I have lived in the South most of my life, and I have never heard anyone use those words. I've seen the movie City Slickers, and I heard liberal elitist used on talk radio. I have heard Yankee used a bunch, but not typically in a derogatory manner.[/quote]

Actually, I think I only have heard it from pundits. Then again, I live in NY and I've never heard anyone express superiority over the south. Except for things like who has the better food, women, etc, but that kind of discussion happens anywhere you go.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Quack has a point with alabama, not so much pro slavery but for being racist. I was reading the link he posted and that linked to another site, claiming in 2000 interracial marriage was struck down, but 40% of people voted for it to remain illegal. I googled it and it turned out to be true.

link

It also stated that it took south carolina until 98 to do the same, with 38% in favor of it remaining illegal. Obviously these bans weren't enforced, but they still had sizeable support.[/quote]

i don't know about SC but AL has a problem with legislation...well legislators in particular. See when a bill comes up like Save the White Seal of the Artic bill for example, legislators attach all of this crap onto the bill. What happens is that the Save the Seals bill will protect the Seals, but all the crap that was attached as the bill made its way through allows drinking and gambling in certain zip codes, tax hikes in certain cities, etc...

So it is difficult to determine a state's stance on issues like interracial marriage by only looking at a failed bill. One also should examine what extra crap is included in the legislation. Most of the time it has nothing to do with the title of the bill. In the end, all that is reported is:

ALABAMA SUPPORTS THE KILLING OF SEALS
OR
ALABAMA DENIES INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES
 
[quote name='jmcc']I see the Sweenus's point. The commercialization of the holiday season in general is pretty ugly, but saying Xmas is a sign of it simply isn't true. It's akin to demanding people stop using the full spelling of Christmas because ads feature it, too. I personally am not going to give up a convenient abbreviation because some corporate dongs use it too.[/quote]

Actually, I think it's actually highly context sensitive.
That's actually a point that didn't get much play in the earlier discussion.
While most usage of Xmas is intented in the long used sense (X/Chi=Christ), there are times where it most definitely is not used in that sense... though, obviously, that will be picked up in the context.

Unfortunately, most people aren't all that good at discerning things like that, and as some of the obviously negative uses of the abreviation became more prevalant, it began developing a negative conotation.

I think the real issue is that both uses actually co-exist, but most people don't want to take the time, examine the context clues, and see exactly how the usage of Xmas was intented.

Unfortunately, this will sometimes manifest itself in discussions like this.

As I see it, Xmas is a useful abreivation for Christmas long used in historical writings, and it is also a touchstone for the secularization and commercialization of the Christmas season.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='jmcc']I see the Sweenus's point. The commercialization of the holiday season in general is pretty ugly, but saying Xmas is a sign of it simply isn't true. It's akin to demanding people stop using the full spelling of Christmas because ads feature it, too. I personally am not going to give up a convenient abbreviation because some corporate dongs use it too.[/quote]

Actually, I think it's actually highly context sensitive.
That's actually a point that didn't get much play in the earlier discussion.
While most usage of Xmas is intented in the long used sense (X/Chi=Christ), there are times where it most definitely is not used in that sense... though, obviously, that will be picked up in the context.

Unfortunately, most people aren't all that good at discerning things like that, and as some of the obviously negative uses of the abreviation became more prevalant, it began developing a negative conotation.

I think the real issue is that both uses actually co-exist, but most people don't want to take the time, examine the context clues, and see exactly how the usage of Xmas was intented.

Unfortunately, this will sometimes manifest itself in discussions like this.

As I see it, Xmas is a useful abreivation for Christmas long used in historical writings, and it is also a touchstone for the secularization and commercialization of the Christmas season.[/quote]

Seriously, do you know anyone who says "Ex-mas" when they see Xmas? The only place I've ever heard it not pronounced as Christmas is on Futurama and I'm not a very religious fellow, so you'd think it would come up more in the non-churchous circles I frequent.
 
Seriously, do you know anyone who says "Ex-mas" when they see Xmas?

That could be the difference here. I have heard "ex-mas" used in conversations (even in radio advertising), though when used in that fashion, it usually is in the negative or commerical sense.

The only place I've ever heard it not pronounced as Christmas is on Futurama and I'm not a very religious fellow, so you'd think it would come up more in the non-churchous circles I frequent.

That actually is fairly odd. While I haven't heard it frequently, I have heard the "Ex-mas" pronounciation quite a bit... which is why I actually believe that the two exist simultaneously.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='Ledhed']Heh, the Sweenus.

That is all.[/quote]

?

Yo no entendi.[/quote]

A few posts back, jmcc referred to you as the Sweenus.

/giggle. :wink:
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.[/quote]

That's just patently untrue and you have no proof.

EDIT: I should maybe add that the recently elected mayor of Richmond, Doug Wilder, is BLACK and he was also the first black governor in the U.S. years ago. In addition, all districts of the city gave him a majority, including the majority-white ones. So unless you're saying that people vote for someone for mayor that they wish were a slave, you can take your made-up arguments and stick them back where they came from, where the sun don't shine.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Quackzilla']In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.[/quote]

That's just patently untrue and you have no proof.

EDIT: I should maybe add that the recently elected mayor of Richmond, Doug Wilder, is BLACK and he was also the first black governor in the U.S. years ago. In addition, all districts of the city gave him a majority, including the majority-white ones. So unless you're saying that people vote for someone for mayor that they wish were a slave, you can take your made-up arguments and stick them back where they came from, where the sun don't shine.[/quote]

I went to school in South VA and there are a ton of Confederate flags in windows, on flagpoles, etc. It's actually a big deal for alot of people down there.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Quackzilla']In Richmond, Virginia the majority of the population is pro-slavery.

They spit on pictures of Abraham Lincoln and save up pennies to buy Confederate flags.

It's disturbing.[/quote]

That's just patently untrue and you have no proof.

EDIT: I should maybe add that the recently elected mayor of Richmond, Doug Wilder, is BLACK and he was also the first black governor in the U.S. years ago. In addition, all districts of the city gave him a majority, including the majority-white ones. So unless you're saying that people vote for someone for mayor that they wish were a slave, you can take your made-up arguments and stick them back where they came from, where the sun don't shine.[/quote]

I went to school in South VA and there are a ton of Confederate flags in windows, on flagpoles, etc. It's actually a big deal for alot of people down there.[/quote]

Yes, there are a number of people who feel that the Confederate flag is part of their heritage. Much less use it for racial reasons, and unfortunately these people do exist to some degree. But Quack in his usual fashion throws out his undocumented lies and then runs, saying things like the majority of the population of Richmond are pro-slavery, an absoultely and completely ludicrous statement.
 
[quote name='camoor']I went to school in South VA and there are a ton of Confederate flags in windows, on flagpoles, etc. It's actually a big deal for alot of people down there.[/quote]

I live in SW Virginia and unfortunately, there is still a lot of racism here. Not so much the Klan-marching-down-the-street kind, but the more quiet kind.
 
By north you mean Canada, or the U.S and Canada, and Mexico is the south. If its the second one, maybe we feel superior because we're looking down on them since wer're taller than most? I dunno.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Here's another reason why I don't like "the south".

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43181

Yes, I realize that there are cool people in the south, and that not everybody is an inbreeding racist yokel. But, when thinking about "the south" and how its different than "the north", this is exhibit A.[/quote]

yea there are not people like that in the North :roll:

just because one person wanted to prove she was an idiot it reflects on everyone from the south.
 
We feel superior beacuse we won the war 150 years ago, now granted none of us were in that war nor were our parents or their parents and probably not even our parent's parent's parents and techniquely a fair amount of the southerners today aren't actual decendents of those southeners back then, in fact some of the might be decend from Northeners and others such as the Kentuckians where actually lived in a boarder state, but long story short we won the war which gives us justification for looking down on all southeners for eternity.

Long live the Union!



(j/k)
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]


this i agree is why there is such a huge gap... in essence we are two different societies
 
[quote name='charcoalfeather'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]


this i agree is why there is such a huge gap... in essence we are two different societies[/quote]

BS. The south has similar opinions on most issues as the north. You're crazy if you think someone from New York and someone from Georgia are different enough to not be seen as the same society.
 
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