Why do we trash talk about specs?

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It is obvious that the next-gen battle is going to be interesting to say the least. After reading so many posts about HD, Ram, and Processors I'm done. Why?

Buying a gaming console has always been about one thing. CONTENT The PS2 is the least capable machine of the current generation and sold the most. The PS2 library of games is vast and has games that appeal to almost any gamer. The DS managed to sell close to 300,000 units this past week in Japan. This is a system that almost seemed like a joke when compared to the powerful PSP.

Now I'm definitely not going to say that beautiful graphics on an HD TV are not worthwhile. It is always great to see the latest and greatest in all of its glory. However if the content is not available on the system what's the point? HD would seem like a pretty big gimmick if the games weren't their to back it up. It would become nothing more than something to entice you to buy a new TV and an overpriced system.

I started gaming in the arcade and on the Atari 2600 so maybe I'm a little biased to the fact that a game with block graphics can be enjoyable but I just don't see all the bull about specs.

I think I'd just rather hear arguments on how the Playstation 2 has Sly Cooper, the Xbox has Halo, and the Cube has Zelda rather than how the processor is better in the PS3 than in the 360. Shouldn't it be all about the games anyway?
 
Until the systems are out there are no games to talk about. Specs are all people have to bitch about :lol:
 
Specs really mean nothing. You are absolutley right. Wubb's point also makes perfect sense, people just need something to talk about so they use specs. I personally think my Atari is exremely baddass and it is the weakest system I own.
 
Specs do mean nothing. However we as a people need something we need that sense of security to tell use that everything's going to be alright. That We are getting the best. We for some reason need the best as humans when it comes to trival things like this, if we don't buy the best then we tell ourself what we have is good enough.
 
It's funny how sometimes the least powerful system wins the war.

NES > Master System
PS2 > Gamecube & X-Box
Virtual Boy > Everything!!!!

I'm not sure but didn't the Genisis sell more units than the SNES?
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']I'm not sure but didn't the Genisis sell more units than the SNES?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure what the actual facts are between the SNES and Genesis, but considering my only sources of information back then were GamePro and EGM, it sounded a lot like the SNES was beating the crap out of Genesis, and that SNES's graphical superiority was the reason.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']I'm not sure but didn't the Genisis sell more units than the SNES?[/QUOTE]
Looking at the Wiki entries for each, the Genesis sold 21.9 million worldwide, while the SNES sold up to 49 million (at least 44). My guess is you can thank Squaresoft and Rare for that by and large. The point is still valid though. My most fond childhood memories are with Sonic zooming on the Genesis. Was I not able to have fun on that system because it had a slower CPU? Nope.
 
[quote name='daroga']Squaresoft[/QUOTE]
Maybe in japan, but in America Squaresoft wasn't particularly popular until FF7 was released.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']Maybe in japan, but in America Squaresoft wasn't particularly popular until FF7 was released.[/QUOTE]
No, Squaresoft was very popular in America in the 16bit era. Consider: FF2(4), FF3(6), Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, etc. The fan-base that these games created is what launched FF7 to be the sucess that it was, as well as bringin many more new gamers to the genre/company.
 
[quote name='daroga']No, Squaresoft was very popular in America in the 16bit era. Consider: FF2(4), FF3(6), Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, etc.[/QUOTE]

Chrono Trigger was quite popular. Secret of Mana less so. I barely knew anyone that knew anyting about FF2 and 3, nor did I see much coverage on them in the gaming magazines I read (including nintendo power).

The mainstream nature of FF7's advertising and Sony's push was what brought FF7 to the forefront and successful. Not its previous games.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']Chrono Trigger was quite popular. Secret of Mana less so. I barely knew anyone that knew anyting about FF2 and 3, nor did I see much coverage on them in the gaming magazines I read (including nintendo power).[/QUOTE]

This is my last post on this tangent. Your empirical evidence simply doesn't coincide with reality. Consider that Volumes 65 & 66 of Nintendo Power have a 2 part article on FF3.

From Wiki:
"Final Fantasy VI sold 1.4 million copies in Japan and around 550,000 copies in the United States under the title "Final Fantasy III" (for the Super NES)."

As popular in Japan here in the US? Nope. But these games were popular and sold many SNESs. Case closed.
 
[quote name='daroga']From Wiki:
"Final Fantasy VI sold 1.4 million copies in Japan and around 550,000 copies in the United States under the title "Final Fantasy III" (for the Super NES)."[/QUOTE]

You forgot the best part. From the SAME wiki article:
"Although later installments of the series sold substantially more copies (The Japanese version of Final Fantasy VII, for instance, sold 2.5 million copies during its first weekend alone), Final Fantasy VI is something of a cult hit, and is still remembered fondly by many gamers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VI
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']You forgot the best part. From the SAME wiki article:
"Although later installments of the series sold substantially more copies (The Japanese version of Final Fantasy VII, for instance, sold 2.5 million copies during its first weekend alone), Final Fantasy VI is something of a cult hit, and is still remembered fondly by many gamers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VI[/QUOTE]
I think you've forgotten the point we were discussing. Squaresoft, in selling 2 million copies of FF3(6) alone (not to mention all their other games), helped Nintendo sell the Super Famicom/SNES.

Back on topic, I think another strong argument is the Gameboy. Under powered when compared to the Game Gear, Lynx, Portable Turbo Grafix, it still sold so many more systems because it had games. The thing, as a piece of hardware, kinda blew even when ti came out. Ugly green/black graphics. It didn't matter. It had Tetris, it had Mario Land, it had any number of favorite little niche games and was portable. Even in the face of the uber-powerful PSP, the GBA still holds its own, even when there's no comparison in hardware power.
 
[quote name='daroga']I think you've forgotten the point we were discussing. Squaresoft, in selling 2 million copies of FF3(6) alone (not to mention all their other games), helped Nintendo sell the Super Famicom/SNES.[/QUOTE]

FIrst of all the point I made was how popular Square was in America. That is to say, Square wasn't really that popular in America until after FF7 was released. You cite FF3, and I cite these:

A) Most of those stats are Japanese sales.
B) It was a Cult hit at the time.
C) the game came out in late 94 which is nearing the end of the SNES's life cycle leading to:
D) Chances are, anyone even knew what FF3 was at the time already owned an SNES.

If you want games that helped sell the SNES in America, it would be DKC 1-3, Super Mario WOrld 1 and 2, Legend of Zelda, Super Metroid and others of their ilk. However, I seriously doubt that Square games really moved consoles until FF7 was released.
 
Well, if we don't talk about specs we'll have to compare dick size...but comparing specs is much more civilized.
 
[quote name='joevan']If penises were specs, I'd be a Xbox 360 :D[/QUOTE]

There isn't enough and when its fans actually manage to get their hands on it it, oftentimes, doesn't work, overheating and consequently melting?:hot:

:roll:

[quote name='bmulligan']No, it's deffective and overvalued.[/QUOTE]

ha ha, good one :laugh:
 
[quote name='chunk']There isn't enough and when its fans actually manage to get their hands on it it, oftentimes, doesn't work, overheating and consequently melting?:hot:

:roll:[/QUOTE]

[quote name='bmulligan']No, it's deffective and overvalued.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']It's overcompensated? ;)[/QUOTE]

:rofl: I was gonna say that people will wait in line for 12 hours in the cold for it but you guys are pretty close too :applause:
 
[quote name='joevan']:rofl: I was gonna say that people will wait in line for 12 hours in the cold for it but you guys are pretty close too :applause:[/QUOTE]

I think it's just hilarious that when there is an opportunity to poke fun at someone elses wang that there are three jokes posted within minutes. We're like a swarm of wasps. If only we could harness this power for good. :(
 
[quote name='chunk']I think it's just hilarious that when there is an opportunity to poke fun at someone elses wang that there are three jokes posted within minutes. We're like a swarm of wasps. If only we could harness this power for good. :([/QUOTE]

Making fun of dicks isn't for good?:hot:
 
one thing that console games drive me nuts over is frame rate, i don't care good or bad it looks keep over 50 and im happy.
 
To answer the topic question:

To determine who has the bigger e-penis.

I wish people would remember that it's about the games. Not the hardware.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']B) It was a Cult hit at the time.[/QUOTE]

Only according to a wiki article. Half a million in sales doesn't sound that cult to me.

I missed the SNES generation. Long story, but I desperately wanted to play FFIII, and others, I only played Chronotrigger when the N64 was out by buying an old SNES.

Does anyone else miss old-school RPGs? I avoided FFVII because it was set in a futuristic setting, not the old "save the kingdom" that FFI and the DQ games were.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Only according to a wiki article. Half a million in sales doesn't sound that cult to me.[/QUOTE]
:applause: Thank you. :)
 
[quote name='Quillion']Only according to a wiki article. Half a million in sales doesn't sound that cult to me.[/QUOTE]

I guess we can't trust Wikipedia. It's not like it's based in fact or anything :roll:

If you're going to cite a source, you're going to have to accept all facets of the souce. Picking and choosing facts and ignoring others isn't quite that honest in an academic sense.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']FIrst of all the point I made was how popular Square was in America. That is to say, Square wasn't really that popular in America until after FF7 was released. You cite FF3, and I cite these:

A) Most of those stats are Japanese sales.
B) It was a Cult hit at the time.
C) the game came out in late 94 which is nearing the end of the SNES's life cycle leading to:
D) Chances are, anyone even knew what FF3 was at the time already owned an SNES.

If you want games that helped sell the SNES in America, it would be DKC 1-3, Super Mario WOrld 1 and 2, Legend of Zelda, Super Metroid and others of their ilk. However, I seriously doubt that Square games really moved consoles until FF7 was released.[/QUOTE]


Dead on.

Compare what FFIII sold to what Mario and Zelda or even DKC(in America of course) sold and you will see what games really sold the system.
 
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