Why is The Da Vinci Code so controversial?

[quote name='munch']The reason why it's a big stink is because it starts off with this:

All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.

People got worked up because that is essentially saying that everything in the book is fact.[/quote]

If people read that and they believe it, then they are morons. All he was stating is that the artwork is accurate. People need to learn to READ and realize that after the description is over, the fiction begins again.

TBW
 
Here is what just happened

People: We demand answers. Why are your "spiritual leaders" raping little boys, why do you insist on killing Africans by promoting irresponsible attitudes about birth control and why is all our charity money being funneled into coverups?

Catholic Church: Well you see, it all goes back to the book of... look over there - Dan Brown, occultism, satan!
 
[quote name='camoor']Here is what just happened

People: We demand answers. Why are your "spiritual leaders" raping little boys, why do you insist on killing Africans by promoting irresponsible attitudes about birth control and why is all our charity money being funneled into coverups?

Catholic Church: Well you see, it all goes back to the book of... look over there - Dan Brown, occultism, satan![/quote]

Bingo. For the record, I am a Catholic (or I was raised as such anyway) but I also have a brain in my head and can think for myself -just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's true. I don't have a problem with people having "faith" in God or whatever because you've got to believe in something, right?

Also, my comment at the end of the first post was not meant to be hateful, just to point out the absurdity of denouncing a work of fiction when your entire organization is based on something many claim to be fictitious as well. I guess it comes down to the church's enormous hypocrisy and that I just don't like how they can't stand any form of scrutiny or criticism.
 
[quote name='camoor']Here is what just happened

People: We demand answers. Why are your "spiritual leaders" raping little boys, why do you insist on killing Africans by promoting irresponsible attitudes about birth control and why is all our charity money being funneled into coverups?

Catholic Church: Well you see, it all goes back to the book of... look over there - Dan Brown, occultism, satan![/QUOTE]

While you're attitude is as bigoted as ever, I'm with you up until the church pointing at Dan Brown thing. That's making him out to be a victim or something. In fact it's the opposite, he benefited from it greatly and I have no doubt he's relishes in the controversy because it pads his wallet alot. He's even done a little prodding onhis part to add to it (saying his facts are accurate, he believes in what he's writing, etc.) As others pointed out this isn't the first time things like this were brought up and the controversy certainly was a very big part of the fuel behind his book's success. Also i know I can't be the only one who thinks while he was "researching" this book he knew full well it would cause some controversy.

[quote name='javeryh']
Also, my comment at the end of the first post was not meant to be hateful, just to point out the absurdity of denouncing a work of fiction when your entire organization is based on something many claim to be fictitious as well. I guess it comes down to the church's enormous hypocrisy and that I just don't like how they can't stand any form of scrutiny or criticism.[/QUOTE]

Ok but I have to know, how is this different than the near countless times any other group/organization has spoken out against any other form of media? By making a bigger deal out of this over the other incidents aren't you simply just playing into their hand so to speak.
 
[quote name='evanft']ROFFLE.

The DaVinci Code and the bible have at leas tone thing in common; they're both works of historical fiction that only complete retards would take as literally true.[/QUOTE]
Too bad that The DaVinci Code is in no way historical fiction.
 
They dont want people to form a diferent opinon than the one they have been preaching for years.

Its odd id say they have less faith in there own religion than I do.
But maybe they know something we dont?
 
I think this is funny. All them religious folk are over-sensitive. I will mos def see the movie since this whole cover up story seems cool.
 
[quote name='Msia']Agreed. I dont want to believe in the religion but I'll still celebrate Christmas. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Christmas isn't even Christian anymore so much as it is a commercial holiday. Just like Thanksgiving is mostly for eating and knowing the next day is the retail apocolypse.
 
I normally dont respond to religious threads since they turn into such hate threads and people dont really think about others feelings but....

When something is published that speaks out against an organized religion, what else do you expect? I dont think any religion would just sit by and not say anything.
 
The Prophet Muhammad makes a cameo. He gives Tom Hanks' character a salmon helmet.
 
[quote name='b0bx13']Too bad that The DaVinci Code is in no way historical fiction.[/QUOTE]

It takes liberties with things that we're pretty sure happened (Jesus) in order to create a story. Maybe historical isn't the right word, but you get my meaning.
 
[quote name='javeryh']it's probably about as true as the one about the son of God getting crucified and rising from the dead...[/QUOTE]

This will not end well ever.
 
1) I'd much rather save my $9 for X-Men 3 the next weekend.

2) The book was totally overrated and the movie is clearly a cash-in on it's absurd popularity, even Angels & Demons was a bit better, they should at least make that into a film first.
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Ah ok, and x men 3 isn't a "cash in" on the comic books fame?
 
As a roman catholic it doesn't bother me. To me, I do my thing with my religion, and I consider myself a good catholic, but at the same time, I'm not going to get up in arms about other people. Why would I get upset, violent, etc? Wouldn't that just be going against being a good person, which I believe is the basis of the catholic faith.

However, as we know, Jesus himself did get angry once. Angry enough to whip people. Then again, people were selling things in the temple.

Now that I think about it. Ya know what makes me 100X more upset than any of this media stuff ever could? When I see a priests at my church with fancy cars, new gadgets, and when they expect me, because I am 19 years of age, to give money in adition to what my parents give. If I recall Jesus was a simple man, no?

Anywho, I doubt if when I die someday, Jesus will say to me, "Lawl!! U did noT oppose zee davinci CODE!! ur goin 2 hellz!."
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']1) I'd much rather save my $9 for X-Men 3 the next weekend.

2) The book was totally overrated and the movie is clearly a cash-in on it's absurd popularity, even Angels & Demons was a bit better, they should at least make that into a film first.
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Ah ok, and x men 3 isn't a "cash in" on the comic books fame?[/QUOTE]

IMO not nearly as much, for starters, the comics are actually good and also it's alot harder to create a successful comic book franchise that adults will go see, than it takes a absurdly successful book (which isn't even the first in it's own series), add some well-known actor/director, and make a film.
The first X-Men film, especially in it's time was a big gamble because comic book films were often second rate and often viewed as such by most people. Plus it had a very rich history.

Getting back on topic, in regards X-Men 3, yes it is just cashing at least at this point. The reason I'm anticipating it alot more is because it seems like it will end an ongoing series I enjoyed. I know full well it could suck hard (honestly it probably will compared to X2), but like Star Wars I, and many others, who care about the chacters and story will go see it solely because it is being billed as the final opus in a series. As said earlier, maybe if they made Angels & Demons into a film first (a book which I enjoyed more as well), then maybe I'd be more excited for the Da Vinci code because I'd have had invested some interest into the characters already. Who knows the movie maybe awesome, i just gave you my feelings on why I don't care to see it.
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Christmas isn't even Christian anymore so much as it is a commercial holiday.[/quote]

What're you talkin' about? It's always been a commercial holiday. It wasn't Christian to begin with. It's not even strictly Christ's birth. The Romans were celebrating the Saturnalia long before Jesus' birth. The gift-exchanging idea was absorbed from here. The Saturnalia was the feast at which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn, which took place on 17 December. Over the years, it expanded to a whole week, up to 23 December. It was eventually put on Dec. 25 by emperor Aurelian in 274AD. The earliest Christians even started celebrating Xmas as a holiday was around 350AD. Jesus was more likely born around January 6 (if many biblical scholars' calculations are correct). The most likely reason they celebrated it on Dec. 25 was to subvert the pagan holiday while promoting Christianity at the same time. Even the Xmas tree was originally a tradition of the Saturnalia. The Romans often cut down evergreens and decorated them to pay homage to Saturn, the god of farming. This was to honor the fact that the evergreens remained alive during the harshness of winter. As an alternative, it's also been said that the tradition was possibly introduced by Germany during the Protestant Reformation alongside the idea of Santa Claus. So, Xmas isn't really a Christian holiday to begin with.:lol:
 
[quote name='jaykrue']What're you talkin' about? It's always been a commercial holiday. It wasn't Christian to begin with. It's not even strictly Christ's birth. The Romans were celebrating the Saturnalia long before Jesus' birth. The gift-exchanging idea was absorbed from here. The Saturnalia was the feast at which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn, which took place on 17 December. Over the years, it expanded to a whole week, up to 23 December. It was eventually put on Dec. 25 by emperor Aurelian in 274AD. The earliest Christians even started celebrating Xmas as a holiday was around 350AD. Jesus was more likely born around January 6 (if many biblical scholars' calculations are correct). The most likely reason they celebrated it on Dec. 25 was to subvert the pagan holiday while promoting Christianity at the same time. Even the Xmas tree was originally a tradition of the Saturnalia. The Romans often cut down evergreens and decorated them to pay homage to Saturn, the god of farming. This was to honor the fact that the evergreens remained alive during the harshness of winter. As an alternative, it's also been said that the tradition was possibly introduced by Germany during the Protestant Reformation alongside the idea of Santa Claus. So, Xmas isn't really a Christian holiday to begin with.:lol:[/QUOTE]
i loved a huey freeman christmas. it was like charlie brown meets your post.
 
[quote name='darkmere']i loved a huey freeman christmas. it was like charlie brown meets your post.[/QUOTE]

With copy and pastes of wikipedia articles thrown in...
 
Ironically, I think the book actually explains what jaykrue just said.

Personally, I think the Catholic Church is handling this all wrong. If they were more creative, they could this publicity to promote a healthy interest in Catholicism. Instead even more people are going to see the movie which may lead to a movie for the other book "Angels and Demons" which puts Catholicism in an even more negative light.
 
I think my favorite thing about this thread is how often and far it diverges from Javeryh's original post.

While I disgree vehemently with most of the posts made in this thread, I respect all of the posters right to say them, so long as they maintain at least a modicum of decorum.

I don't plan to jump into this though, considering how wildly the tread is swinging. The topic raised (though it does throw a little incendiary barb at the end) is quite interesting, and calls for much contemplation and analysis... unfortunately, the thread is met with far too many canned diatribes and seemlingly unshakable preconcived notions that seem to be blotting out most of the value the thread could have.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']With copy and pastes of wikipedia articles thrown in...[/quote]
Not soley wiki but yeah, some of it was from there. If I must be held accountable as to my resources (I thought I left all this journalism stuff back in college :p):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/holidays/christmas/real2.html
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/winter_solstice.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/l...ials/1412_weekender/scripts/25th_december.pdf
http://www.shambhala.org/arts/fest/unconquered.html
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/today/dec25.html

Do you need more? I filtered out pages that look like they were made with Frontpage by a neophyte web designer and I looked to somewhat credible sources. Wiki isn't the greatest but it is useful as a means of starting research. From wiki, I derived the others from links.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Not soley wiki but yeah, some of it was from there. If I must be held accountable as to my resources (I thought I left all this journalism stuff back in college :p):
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Do you need more?[/quote]

You forgot psychedelic Santa!

3544santa.jpg


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A6084218
 
They're boycotting the movie because Tom Hanks isn't playing a retarded guy in it. Don't be fooled by the religious statements.
 
[quote name='Skelah']theres anti christian comments in this thread now were going to hell :hot: along with tom hanks .[/QUOTE]
will he be playing a retard there?
 
[quote name='dopa345']Ironically, I think the book actually explains what jaykrue just said.

Personally, I think the Catholic Church is handling this all wrong. If they were more creative, they could this publicity to promote a healthy interest in Catholicism. Instead even more people are going to see the movie which may lead to a movie for the other book "Angels and Demons" which puts Catholicism in an even more negative light.[/QUOTE]

How much more negative can you be when your head men (priests) cant keep their private parts to themselves around little children.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']How much more negative can you be when your head men (priests) cant keep their private parts to themselves around little children.[/QUOTE]

Have you read "Angels and Demons"? ;)
 
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