Why isn't there an eBay Stupidity Thread?

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blindinglights

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Rant: WTF is up with these idiots who are extreme lowballers on Best Offer listings? I sold a game lot a week or so ago and I was looking at the old ended listing to base a new listing off of and noticed it said it had more offers than what I remembered looking at. So I looked at it and it was an auto-declined offer from some dumb ass that offered the amount it cost to ship the entire lot and he even added a message that said "oh and that's the shipped offer".

Do these people think if they offer enough times that a seller is just going to be like "Sure! I'll take a huge loss on this just so you can get the item you want." Idiots. :wall:
 
I was selling something about a year ago for $250. In the description I put open to offers. Some kid form Israel offers me $17 shipped. I said sure thing, but kinda jokingly. He thought I was serious. I gave a big F U to ebay and listed it on esty. Took like 3 weeks but it sold for $225. Was a game prop I made.
 
[quote name='blindinglights']So I looked at it and it was an auto-declined offer from some dumb ass that offered the amount it cost to ship the entire lot and he even added a message that said "oh and that's the shipped offer".

Do these people think if they offer enough times that a seller is just going to be like "Sure! I'll take a huge loss on this just so you can get the item you want." Idiots. :wall:[/QUOTE]
:rofl: That sounds like CAG a good chunk of the time anymore. That's why I only trade/sell my games to BB or the local indy shops, since most want shit for some stupid lowball amount and SHIPPED for that price no less.

I should make a CAG stupidity thread and see how many people post about being lowballed. I bet it'd hit at least 500 posts within a couple of weeks with no problem.
 
Then you also have to remember that there are sellers that price their items WAYYYY out of line what with everyone else wants for the same item. A lot of people put a best offer price as a placeholder in case someone pays an outrageous amount for the item and expect people to make offers on it otherwise especially with ebay giving sellers free listings.

I am getting lowballed on shipping A LOT these days, people ask if I will ship the item for a certain price, and its to the point where they are haggling for 50 cents to a dollar difference. Those people get on my block list real quick. I would rather not sell an item at all if I have to deal with a buyer that is going to be a problem.
 
Exactly. I've had people(on here) who bitched about my price for shipping not being in line with 'what they normally pay for shipping through Paypal'. Apparently they didn't read my big ass multicolored disclaimer about how I don't use Paypal and I go to the actual PO or UPS office to ship stuff. The one cheap fuck not only wanted me to ship a game Media Mail(not allowed), he also bitched about Delivery Confirmation costing more than the $.15-.20 or whatever it was through Paypal.:roll:

Another guy wanted 3 games that still sold at the time for $15 each for $15 SHIPPED. And on and on and on.

That's why I don't even bump my trade list on here anymore. So many people with their own idea of what 'fair' is.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']I would rather not sell an item at all if I have to deal with a buyer that is going to be a problem.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I'd add to that I'd also rather not sell to a jackass since this isn't a necessary income for me so much as it is me cleaning out my house.

Case in point (also best offer related), I was selling something a few months back for $30 which was lower than all the other BIN listings for the same item in similar condition. I get an offer for $9 (before I knew to use auto-decline) and I counter offer with $23 which was lower than the cheapest auctions were going at the time because I wanted to get rid of the box. The guy sends his counter offer back and it was like $9.50. I just declined and didn't bother with him anymore.

I pretty much stick to BIN listings because the problems were ten fold with idiots on auctions, but I just can't seem to escape from these morons.
 
I don't even have Best Offer turned on when I list an item yet I still get lowball offers from time to time. I also block anyone who I think will be trouble. A few weeks ago someone offered me half the price of what I had the item listed for, telling me I will never sell it at that price (despite another seller selling the same item for $5 more than my price a few days before that), so I told them forget it and of someone else bought it 3 days later.

If I wanted to take offers, I'd have Best Offer as an option.

Not related to that but what about people who can't read a description. I'll have a game listing that says "this item is the original version, not the greatest hits version" and then I'll get a message from someone asking if it is the greatest hits version or not. I usually ignore and block those people as well since if they can't read a short description, they are not someone I want to deal with.

Then there are the people who use buy it now, then message me with a question about the item after they bought and paid for the item. Also the people who wait until the last minute to buy a gift and expect it to be delivered it a day or two.

Here's an example of what the type of person I don't want to deal with (actual messages):
"Will you sell it for $10? Ill buy it now."
Then another message from them:
"In case that item is DOA or not working properly, do you refund payment or replace the item?"
 
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I sold my Skyward Sword box (it stated it was BOX ONLY in the title and in the listing, I wasn't trying to trick anyone) at the beginning of this year, and I got about 6 people who put a $30-50 bid and cancel it minutes later, and one idiot that just told me he wouldn't pay (didn't even ask about cancelling.)
 
[quote name='ROB64']I sold my Skyward Sword box (it stated it was BOX ONLY in the title and in the listing, I wasn't trying to trick anyone) at the beginning of this year, and I got about 6 people who put a $30-50 bid and cancel it minutes later, and one idiot that just told me he wouldn't pay (didn't even ask about cancelling.)[/QUOTE]

The exact same thing happened to me with a Morrowind case when I first started selling online. Even with BOX ONLY in the title and listing. Also, you have to love the people who win something, never pay, and when you contact them they respond quickly with something like "oh I found it somewhere else."

I just got a neutral feedback that stated "its okay, the disc is a little too scratched but still acceptable". I wrote that it was in rough shape with scratches in the subtitle and listing, and put acceptable as the condition...
 
[quote name='YoshiFan1']
"In case that item is DOA or not working properly, do you refund payment or replace the item?"[/QUOTE]

When you see questions like that they are most likely going to try to pull a switch. I got a message like that on amazon on a rare game. "What is your return policy, cause if it doesn't work I'd like to return it, I am excited to get it I really hope it works." The game was listed as very good , but it was more in "like new" condition.
 
Yeah I figured they were no good, especially since it was a new item (not that new items can't be broken out of the box but I didn't like right away they asked for a lower price and then asked what happens if the item is broken).
 
[quote name='leecy']The exact same thing happened to me with a Morrowind case when I first started selling online. Even with BOX ONLY in the title and listing. Also, you have to love the people who win something, never pay, and when you contact them they respond quickly with something like "oh I found it somewhere else."

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I remember back in the day that I got so many fucktards like that.

I guess I should feel lucky that most idiots I deal with these days are honest enough to admit they're stupid (and with that, I just have them request a cancellation and agree to it).
 
I stopped using eBay and Paypal because of crap like this. The straw that broke the camel's back was when someone cheated me out of $125 because they switched out the item I sold them with a broken one.

I even said that I wouldn't accept returns like that, but it turns out that eBay doesn't let you do that any more (though I swear they used to - assuming they had enough complaints about scamming that they revoked that right).
 
I remember one time I was selling a game guide (little big planet maybe?) on ebay. Listed in New condition, because it was new, right from the store. Some schlub sent me a message saying he'd buy it for the listed price if I made the shipping free, which I did because it was almost Christmas and I just wanted to get all my listings shipped out asap. Besides which, it was media mail so less than $3.

So I gave the guy free shipping when I really didn't have to, and in the end I got a neutral feedback because the guide had some microscopic shelf-wear that any book sitting around a store shelf for a month or two would have. The feedback was simply: "not quite new per se" or something like that, with no further elaboration or mention of my superior customer service etc.

Needless to say I don't give in to random peoples' requests any more.
 
I've had the condition problem when buying things before. Probably two or three of the PS2/Xbox games I've ordered that were listed as "Like New" or "Very Good" showed up in Block Buster cases with no manual. I pretty much refuse to buy anything with a stock photo now because of that. I'd rather pay a couple dollars extra so I know what's going to come in the mail.

Then you get the idiots that sell nothing but resurfaced disc only games and they list them as "Like New". Pretty frustrating when you're trying to setup an advanced search to weed stuff like that out.
 
[quote name='Deserter Goose']
I even said that I wouldn't accept returns like that, but it turns out that eBay doesn't let you do that any more (though I swear they used to - assuming they had enough complaints about scamming that they revoked that right).[/QUOTE]

They still do, it makes no difference what return policy you use. You get 45 day return through ebay and 90 if you charge back. I sold a mini projector that I got back 75 days later. Person opened a claim on the 44th day and didn't escalate it till 3 weeks later. I called ebay and they told me I have to wait for a response from the buyer.

Now ebay/paypal wants to do some kind of escrow thing. You guys should read up on it. Basically the buyer never pays till they are satisfied.
 
I've had to accept stuff back also, even though I always state no returns, because eBay was just going to do a chargeback and let him keep the item! But what really upset me was that it was a brand new rare board game that I sent out, and get it returned with 2 of the little plastic pieces missing!! eBay wouldn't do anything about it because I couldn't "prove" that every piece was there when I sent it out, even though it was brand new. So $125 board game was essentially worthless with a couple of pieces missing... I think I got like $50 next time around.
 
[quote name='ROB64']I sold my Skyward Sword box (it stated it was BOX ONLY in the title and in the listing, I wasn't trying to trick anyone) at the beginning of this year, and I got about 6 people who put a $30-50 bid and cancel it minutes later, and one idiot that just told me he wouldn't pay (didn't even ask about cancelling.)[/QUOTE]

I hate people like you. They will list a box only but they still list it in the regular game section. So when you try to list all the games lowest first you get 10 idiots selling just a box or just a manual for a game. If youre not selling a game do not list it under the game category!
 
[quote name='soonersfan60']I've had to accept stuff back also, even though I always state no returns, because eBay was just going to do a chargeback and let him keep the item! But what really upset me was that it was a brand new rare board game that I sent out, and get it returned with 2 of the little plastic pieces missing!! eBay wouldn't do anything about it because I couldn't "prove" that every piece was there when I sent it out, even though it was brand new. So $125 board game was essentially worthless with a couple of pieces missing... I think I got like $50 next time around.[/QUOTE]

That's why I don't want to sell my sealed games on ebay or amazon. I have a bunch of semi rares I was planning to get rid of in the $50-$100 range.

[quote name='musha666']I hate people like you. They will list a box only but they still list it in the regular game section. So when you try to list all the games lowest first you get 10 idiots selling just a box or just a manual for a game. If youre not selling a game do not list it under the game category![/QUOTE]

I buy on ebay more than I sell. Alls I can say is : Deal with it
At least he puts in the title that it is box only. I bid on some gba "games" ,title said games , descriptions said "lot of gba games", never said box only anywhere. only at the end it said "no games". I found out that I had bought boxes with no games. But I paid for it cause seller would not cancel.
 
I generally don't run into many issues on eBay and Amazon, but I've found the worst Amazon buyers to be more troublesome than the worst eBay buyers. I had one lady buy an Xbox 360 game from me and then she told me it got damaged in the mail. I let her sent it back to me so I can swap it out with another copy and when I looked at the disc there was a circular Xbox 360 burn mark that wasn't there when I shipped it out. I switched out the game anyway because if she went whining to Amazon about it I would lose out on everything (because they generally do not take the seller's word on anything.) After I sent her back another copy of the game (which she broke in the first place) she left me a bad feedback saying the item wasn't as described. So I fixed a problem she caused and then I get penalized for it... Some people are just fucking stupid. And those stupid people unfortunately can waste your time and money and hurt your reputation in the process.
 
90% of the games I buy from ebay or wherever come with discs loose in the case, no idea what is causing this phenomenon either.. the cases aren't damaged.

90% of the games I buy on ebay are also NOT in the listed condition, I never list anything above good because its almost impossible to adhere to ebay's guidelines about condition. They expect a like new game to have not even one mark or scratch on the case, which is virtually impossible to guarantee as games get scratched while they are in the packaging. If you send out a like new game with one scratch then apparently a buyer can come back at you for that and paypal will rule in favor of the buyer.
 
It's called "life" deal with it. most people are good people who sell as described or buy without any hassles, but a few are a#%holes who will cheat the system any way possible and screw everyone in the process. My advice, when you find a seller whose good always try and buy from that seller, bad seller block'em same with buyers.
 
[quote name='TiKi2']That's why I don't want to sell my sealed games on ebay or amazon. I have a bunch of semi rares I was planning to get rid of in the $50-$100 range.



I buy on ebay more than I sell. Alls I can say is : Deal with it
At least he puts in the title that it is box only. I bid on some gba "games" ,title said games , descriptions said "lot of gba games", never said box only anywhere. only at the end it said "no games". I found out that I had bought boxes with no games. But I paid for it cause seller would not cancel.[/QUOTE]


He's got a point. For example search for "MW3 Hardened Edition" and sort by "new" listings.

I shouldn't have to read through a 100 listings for just the steelbook, founder code, box, etc. when I am interested in the actual hardened edition, complete and new.

It is actually a policy violation to list a parted out item as "new" and tag it to the complete item description.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']90% of the games I buy from ebay or wherever come with discs loose in the case, no idea what is causing this phenomenon either.. the cases aren't damaged.

90% of the games I buy on ebay are also NOT in the listed condition, I never list anything above good because its almost impossible to adhere to ebay's guidelines about condition. They expect a like new game to have not even one mark or scratch on the case, which is virtually impossible to guarantee as games get scratched while they are in the packaging. If you send out a like new game with one scratch then apparently a buyer can come back at you for that and paypal will rule in favor of the buyer.[/QUOTE]
The loose discs may be caused by people squeezing the cases around the middle part, since that's where the button to release the game from the spindle is. I had a buddy of mines' nephew do this with a couple of my games when he was looking at the artwork the one night.:roll:

As for the condition thing, I too have had games or their cases end up with dust or scratches on them regardless of how carefully I've handled them. In the case of PS3 games though, it's definitely nice that they have that hard coating on the discs that's harder to scratch. The only times I've ever really seen scratched up Blu-Rays is when I either bought them from Blockbuster during a sale or bought them from Gamestop used.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']:rofl: That sounds like CAG a good chunk of the time anymore. That's why I only trade/sell my games to BB or the local indy shops, since most want shit for some stupid lowball amount and SHIPPED for that price no less.

I should make a CAG stupidity thread and see how many people post about being lowballed. I bet it'd hit at least 500 posts within a couple of weeks with no problem.[/QUOTE]

If you created such a thread, would you stop bitching about being lowballed by CAGs in every other thread you post in? Cause if so, I'm all for it.


[quote name='musha666']I hate people like you. They will list a box only but they still list it in the regular game section. So when you try to list all the games lowest first you get 10 idiots selling just a box or just a manual for a game. If youre not selling a game do not list it under the game category![/QUOTE]

I do too. I hate looking for games, seeing it cheap and then realizing it's not the full game cause some fucktard has to list it in the catalog under that game.

[quote name='TiKi2']They still do, it makes no difference what return policy you use. You get 45 day return through ebay and 90 if you charge back. I sold a mini projector that I got back 75 days later. Person opened a claim on the 44th day and didn't escalate it till 3 weeks later. I called ebay and they told me I have to wait for a response from the buyer.

Now ebay/paypal wants to do some kind of escrow thing. You guys should read up on it. Basically the buyer never pays till they are satisfied.[/QUOTE]

I've not heard this but hopefully ebay can just keep going down the tubes and they can maybe tailor their service to help buyers who get scammed. Then it'd be safe to sell on ebay again. I'm not holding my breath though.

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You know what else I hate? Asshole who open the game, "played it once" and list it as new. It's not new anymore you dumbass!
 
An eBay Stupidity thread is as relevant as a "Worthless crap at a garage sale" thread.


I would read that thread, too.
 
[quote name='confoosious']


I've not heard this but hopefully ebay can just keep going down the tubes and they can maybe tailor their service to help buyers who get scammed. Then it'd be safe to sell on ebay again. I'm not holding my breath though.

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Basically from what I read posted somewhere. It works like this.

Buyer "buys" item but doesn't pay for it. Funds are not withdrawn.
Paypal then pays seller. On buyers behalf
Seller ships
Buyer decide if he/she are satisfied within 14 days. Payment gets auto withdrawn on day 14. Or if buyer releases before that.

If this is true, Paypal/ebay are one step away from escrow.
 
[quote name='GBAstar']He's got a point. For example search for "MW3 Hardened Edition" and sort by "new" listings.

I shouldn't have to read through a 100 listings for just the steelbook, founder code, box, etc. when I am interested in the actual hardened edition, complete and new.

It is actually a policy violation to list a parted out item as "new" and tag it to the complete item description.[/QUOTE]

If you read his post, the one in which I replied too, he never mentioned anything about "new" listings and neither did I. So I don't know what your point is.
 
[quote name='confoosious']If you created such a thread, would you stop bitching about being lowballed by CAGs in every other thread you post in? Cause if so, I'm all for it.[/quote]
Sure thing. But I only mention that as much as I do to try and give people a hint not to even think about trying that with me.
You know what else I hate? Asshole who open the game, "played it once" and list it as new. It's not new anymore you dumbass!
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If Gamestop can get away with this sorta shit, then why can't an individual seller? As has been documented before some GS stores do allow their employees to take home games to play.
 
I have learned to never trust what people say condition wise. I have recently bought some CD's. Some that were rated as acceptable and some that were very good. Yeah I had some of the acceptable CD's come in almost perfect condition and were way better than the very good.

Also what is up with people not keeping instruction manuals with games (I mean games with standard cases too)? I recently ordered Resident Evil 5 for the 360, guy said it was in good condition, game ships fine but no manual. Not that I care, but more so a curiosity.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']The loose discs may be caused by people squeezing the cases around the middle part, since that's where the button to release the game from the spindle is. I had a buddy of mines' nephew do this with a couple of my games when he was looking at the artwork the one night.:roll:

As for the condition thing, I too have had games or their cases end up with dust or scratches on them regardless of how carefully I've handled them. In the case of PS3 games though, it's definitely nice that they have that hard coating on the discs that's harder to scratch. The only times I've ever really seen scratched up Blu-Rays is when I either bought them from Blockbuster during a sale or bought them from Gamestop used.[/QUOTE]

I have been taping my discs in the cases when I send them off to buyers since I don't want anyone complaining about that. Since I receive tons of games with loose discs I assume it will happen to mine as I send them out. I have not had a complaint yet. Based on what I have received from ebay I could probably state item not described for almost every game I receive based on ebay defined conditions but I am not a douche so I don't do that and lets face it with ebay you take what you can get. I choose to buy on ebay so I can get games for cheaper prices than I can locally. As long as the condition is not grossly wrongly defined then I really have no problem with it.

I am really old school in that I want my buyers to have the best experience possible when they buy from me so I don't mind going the extra mile for the buyer, of course if the buyer isn't a douche that is! I do not send out dirty items or dirty games and if something is dirty it gets mentioned in the listing. Obviously based on what I receive I am in the minority on that one!

The PS3 games are really good, I have bought some used ones and I don't think I have one that even has a scratch on it. Of course I only have about 10 games for the system.
 
I once got a neutral for a loose disc. It must have happened during shipping since it wasn't like that when I sent it out (it was a sealed game). Gamecube cases must have had weak spindles since I remember going into a store and seeing many Gamecube games in clearance bins and picking up the case and hearing that the disc is loose.
 
in over 2 years i've never experienced a bad ebay transaction.. i once bought " the warriors" in like new conditions and when i received it the game had a few light scratches and i contacted the seller.. He wanted to refund me the whole money and wanted me to keep the game.. I just told him it was fine and that $5 dollar refund would do it.

it was like a bad and good experience.. very nice seller
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Sure thing. But I only mention that as much as I do to try and give people a hint not to even think about trying that with me.

If Gamestop can get away with this sorta shit, then why can't an individual seller? As has been documented before some GS stores do allow their employees to take home games to play.[/QUOTE]

You know what would be smart? Putting that "don't try that shit with me" in... I dunno, trading posts? And not every single time you talk about trading in any thread?

Also, I don't really care what Gamestop does as I don't shop there anymore.
 
I send out a lot of messages to sellers over shit like this. Some actually listen, most tell me to fuck off, but hey need to hear it. Mint discs should not be in like new. Perfect cartridge only GBA games should not be in like new. Cases that have stickers all over them should not be in like new. People really don't understand the dictionary definition of those two bloody words put together!

I'm also mindful of this when I sell. Most of my feedback mentions my absolutely perfect description because I describe things how I fucking wish people would for me. If you are a collector every minute issue right down to a crease on the back of the insert needs to be well pointed out.
 
[quote name='Zaku77']I send out a lot of messages to sellers over shit like this. Some actually listen, most tell me to fuck off, but hey need to hear it. Mint discs should not be in like new. Perfect cartridge only GBA games should not be in like new. Cases that have stickers all over them should not be in like new. People really don't understand the dictionary definition of those two bloody words put together!

I'm also mindful of this when I sell. Most of my feedback mentions my absolutely perfect description because I describe things how I fucking wish people would for me. If you are a collector every minute issue right down to a crease on the back of the insert needs to be well pointed out.[/QUOTE]

Have you ever tried to sell on eBay? eBay doesn't enforce their item standard conditions so it's so hard to play by the rules and sell your item.

I was trying to sell some DS game without a manual and I listed it properly for a non-manual game, and it wouldn't sell because of how I had listed its condition in the eBay system. Under eBay's condition standards, missing the manual means its "Acceptable" only. I finally changed it to Very Good or something, but still clearly disclosing the missing manual (even in the title I think), and it sold just fine without changing the price or anything. It's amazing how much of a difference something as stupid as that makes.

Once I bought a "Like New" DS game, with nothing further in the description, and it was the cart only with writing on the cart. I contacted the seller about getting a return/refund or something (seemed like a kid using their parent's account, I hope) and they told me to fuck myself basically. So I opened a case, showed eBay the messages, and eBay sided in my favor. Then someone from the account sent a polite message agreeing to refund me if I sent the cart back, despite the message telling me to fuck myself... yeah, okay! Already got my refund and eBay let me keep the cart, but thanks anyway!
 
[quote name='confoosious']You know what would be smart? Putting that "don't try that shit with me" in... I dunno, trading posts? And not every single time you talk about trading in any thread?[/QUOTE]
Relevance. People mentioned someone on eBay wanting something for basically nothing, so I was mentioning my experiences(not all bad btw) on here with severe lowballers.
 
[quote name='Zaku77']I send out a lot of messages to sellers over shit like this. Some actually listen, most tell me to fuck off, but hey need to hear it. Mint discs should not be in like new. Perfect cartridge only GBA games should not be in like new. Cases that have stickers all over them should not be in like new. People really don't understand the dictionary definition of those two bloody words put together!

I'm also mindful of this when I sell. Most of my feedback mentions my absolutely perfect description because I describe things how I fucking wish people would for me. If you are a collector every minute issue right down to a crease on the back of the insert needs to be well pointed out.[/QUOTE]

Yeh collector's can fuck off. I've sold some TG-16 and Sega master stuff which was in great shape. I have collector's messaging me for specs. Which I just reply "They are in very good shape" . I sold both to non collector's and they left me positive feedback because how great the condition was which was noted in the feedback message. I checked their feedback history and they both hardly ever left feedback, so they really liked the condition. The collector's missed out with their perfection seeking bullshit. I'm pretty sure one of the messages was from someone here. So yeh collector's are douchebags.
 
[quote name='TiKi2']Yeh collector's can fuck off. I've sold some TG-16 and Sega master stuff which was in great shape. I have collector's messaging me for specs. Which I just reply "They are in very good shape" . I sold both to non collector's and they left me positive feedback because how great the condition was which was noted in the feedback message. I checked their feedback history and they both hardly ever left feedback, so they really liked the condition. The collector's missed out with their perfection seeking bullshit. I'm pretty sure one of the messages was from someone here. So yeh collector's are douchebags.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is bullshit. I mean I understand that you want to collect stuff, but I always take collecting to if I buy something, I intend to use it. Not keep it locked away because oh my god it might be worth more someday because there are no bumps on the case.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']

If Gamestop can get away with this sorta shit, then why can't an individual seller? As has been documented before some GS stores do allow their employees to take home games to play.[/QUOTE]

eBay has policy guidelines that you're supposed to follow if you sell there.

Here are the item conditions:

Brand New
An item that has never been opened or removed from the manufacturer's sealing (if applicable). Item is in original shrink wrap (if applicable). See the seller's listing for full details. Like New
An item that looks as if it was just taken out of shrink wrap. No visible wear, and all facets of the item are flawless and intact. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. Very Good
An item that is used but still in very good condition. No damage to the jewel case or item cover, no scuffs, scratches cracks, or holes. The cover art and liner notes are included. The VHS or DVD box is included. The video game instructions and box are included. The teeth of disk holder are undamaged. Minimal wear on the exterior of item. No skipping on CD/DVD. No fuzzy/snowy frames on VHS tape. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. Good

An item in used but good condition. May have minor damage to jewel case including scuffs or cracks, or to the item cover including scuffs, scratches, or cracks. The cover art and liner notes are included for a CD. VHS or DVD box is included. Video game instructions are included. No skipping on CD/DVD. No fuzzy/snowy frames on VHS tape. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.
Acceptable
An item with obvious and significant wear but is still operational. May have tears or holes in VHS/DVD box. The video game instructions and box may not be included. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.


Of course, many sellers don't follow these conditions and just choose to list shit in whatever condition they want to.
 
[quote name='TiKi2']Yeh collector's can fuck off. I've sold some TG-16 and Sega master stuff which was in great shape. I have collector's messaging me for specs. Which I just reply "They are in very good shape" . I sold both to non collector's and they left me positive feedback because how great the condition was which was noted in the feedback message. I checked their feedback history and they both hardly ever left feedback, so they really liked the condition. The collector's missed out with their perfection seeking bullshit. I'm pretty sure one of the messages was from someone here. So yeh collector's are douchebags.[/QUOTE]

See I just wouldn't buy something from someone that replies that way. "It's in very good condition" is no more useful than just listing it in that category. I describe every little flaw and usually have multiple pictures linked in to show them. It takes barely any extra time. People that don't properly describe things are douchebags?

Also, when buying I will send a message asking:

Any bends/rips/folds to the manual?
scratches to the disc?
Damage to the case?
Folds/crease/etc to the insert?

If I don't get those questions answered I won't buy. It's as simple as that. Sellers need to describe things well, but if the buyer isn't confident in what he is buying (due to the seller's inability to properly describe it), it's his (the buyer's) responsibility to not buy the item. It's a lot easier for both parties that way.


Kodave:
The feedback I referenced is on ebay. I buy more than I sell, though, so I just sell how I like to buy. No one can EVER say that they didn't know EXACTLY what they were getting. I've never had a single problem with needing to take a return this way, which is awesome!
 
^^ My target consumer is the casual gamer, which is reflected in the price. But what gets me is the collector's want perfection for a casual gamer price. Since I price them for the casual gamer(meaning cheap, well cheaper than collector price). I don't like to waste my time answering specs, since I won't be making much off them anyways.
 
You want eBay stupidity? I sold the game Yakuza, after the auction ends (and before paying) the buyer immediately gives me neutral feedback stating something along the lines of "sorry, I thought this was Yakuza 2. Please cancel this order."

For the record it was very clear that this was Yakuza 1. It all worked out in the end though, she did eventually revise the feedback. Still, some people...
 
I hate sellers who list video game consoles as "new," when they're obviously not. It's incredibly annoying getting saved search notifications, and having to see that junk.
 
If you guys ever get a question and in your mind you say to yourself wtf. Block the person immediately. I made the mistake of not blocking a person saying how cheap the game was , um yeh it is cheap cause it clearly says on the fucken title that it is "broken" "as-is" and in the description. fucken morons.
 
What I hate more than lowballers are the kind that charge overinflated prices. I am a lowballer, I pay much less than I have to. I was once able to get Disgaea DS, Call of Duty WoW, and Advance Wars Days of Ruin, all brand new for $15 altogether, including shipping. Those games were easily worth $80+ altogether. I buy far more than I sell, and I don't even sell anymore thanks to eBay's new stupidass requirements for selling items.
 
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