why should i vote for bush ?

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with all the topics.. too many to go through them all.... just wondering who is a bush supporter? and can they give me reason to vote for him ?

I'm looking to vote for Kerry for the reasons that the current administration has let a surplus turn into a huge debt... and in 75 years .. no administration has lost as many jobs.

I'm not saying kerry will do anybetter.. but this administration has showed what its capable of.. and for that reason i think we need some change.
 
PAD... who is a huge nut. And Duo Maxwell... who is a slightly lesser nut. There are other people whose opinions you might be more interested in, like dtcarson and a few other people (whose names I forget since most of them are more elaborate than dtcarson, not because I don't remember what they said) who usually offer legitimate, or at least not crazy ranting, arguments. I would listen to them and not the other two people mentioned earlier in my post.

I am obviously not a fan of Bush.
 
is there any bush people out there that can give a good arguement against what i posted ??

I'm not looking for flame wars or any crap like that.. but i'm open to any valid points.....i just would like to see any reasons to keep this administration.
 
The job loss figures tossed around by Jigalo John Kerry are very deceptive because they don't consider new jobs created by self employment. The economy has done about as well as possible considering the catastrophes from 9-11, audit scandals, and Clinton's tech bubble bursting. The Bush tax cuts turned a recession sliding towards depression into moderate growth. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sure, we could have avoided a deficit, but at the cost of either being stuck in a recession or not spending enough on military/security.


Vote for Bush if:

-You want more money out of your paycheck going to you and less money going to the government
-You want low taxes on businesses so that they create jobs, grow the economy, and outsource less
-You want conservative supreme court judges who will stick to the constitution rather than making up their own laws
-You think marriage is between a man and a woman, as it has always been since the outset of society
-You are against racist programs that provide special privelages to certain people based on the color of their skin
-You want high standards for education and don't like a corrupt teacher's union that prevents the worst teachers from being fired
-You want to protect doctors from frivolous lawsuits that put them out of business and make healthcare more expensive
-You understand that the UN is corrupt and the US is better off ignoring it

-Lastly vote for Bush if you believe Islamic terrorists are a real threat that must be confronted and defeated. Kerry claims he will run a "smarter" war on terror, yet he has offered absolutely no specifics on how to do it. He waits until negative information comes out and then says "OOOOOOH, I wouldn't have done it that way, I have a PLAN!" The terrorists are fighting desperately to keep democracy out of the middle east. Kerry wants to get our troops out ASAP so that the French might like us better. The same French who made under the table deals with Saddam.

If you want things to be a bit easier right now, vote for Kerry. If you understand that it's important for us to stand strong and make sacrafices now to have a better future, vote for Bush. Look at which candidate has values you believe in and vote for him, don't vote based on "needing a change". Some people have values that tend towards secular European and they will generally vote for Kerry, whereas traditional religious Americans who put high importance on morals will vote for Bush.
 
Basically people who share Bush's Christian values want to vote for him. I personally am not a religious person and I will never be a religious person. I really have a problem with those who intrude in the separtion of church and state.

Bush is obvious following a sort of religious dogma. If you can relate to him in that sense, then he is the canidate for you.
 
The only reason to vote BUSH is because Conan does a better segment on his show then with Kerry.

But other than that I can't think of any reason to vote for him.
 
The job loss figures tossed around by Jigalo John Kerry are very deceptive because they don't consider new jobs created by self employment. The economy has done about as well as possible considering the catastrophes from 9-11, audit scandals, and Clinton's tech bubble bursting. The Bush tax cuts turned a recession sliding towards depression into moderate growth
Come on now, you are seriously saying that we were headed for a DEPRESSION until Bush turned it around? Bush's unemployment figures are low because they don't include people who no longer qualify for benefits, and people new to the workforce (college graduates etc), and Bush's job increase levels are inflated because they aren't adjusted for population growth, i.e. there were more people added to the workforce than there were jobs added.

A defecit may have been unavoidable, but Bush had the two biggest defecits in American history, two years in a row. You can't blame that on 9/11 alone. Bush is worse than a fiscal liberal, instead of tax and spend, its tax less and spend even more.

-You want low taxes on businesses so that they create jobs, grow the economy, and outsource less
But Bush says outsourcing is good. So if outsourcing is good, and he wants to do it less, is that bad?

-You want conservative supreme court judges who will stick to the constitution rather than making up their own laws
Extremist judges who will vote their religion over the constitution

-You think marriage is between a man and a woman, as it has always been since the outset of society
Adding a bigoted and disgraceful amendment to the constitution.
BTW, it hasn't been like that since the "outset of society". Where does society begin for you?

-You want high standards for education and don't like a corrupt teacher's union that prevents the worst teachers from being fired
Union busting on all levels of the public and private sector

-You want to protect doctors from frivolous lawsuits that put them out of business and make healthcare more expensive
You want to protect the insurance companies and bad doctors from their mistakes. Lawsuits are not responsible for this massive increase in health care costs, not even close.

-Lastly vote for Bush if you believe Islamic terrorists are a real threat that must be confronted and defeated. Kerry claims he will run a "smarter" war on terror, yet he has offered absolutely no specifics on how to do it.
Bring in more countries, more international troops and more international funding. Heavy NATO involvement. A grand coalition is not 90% USA. And forget Poland. They're leaving next year. Let other countries participate in the reconstruction and allow them to bid on contracts as an incentive, instead of locking them out as we are now.
Train Iraqi security forces. No, he means actually train them to be security forces and not a 2 week seminar on directing traffic. They are so poorly trained right now its unbelievable. Only 5,000 Iraqis have been fully trained. Not a single Iraqi police officer has been fully trained, not one. Bring in other countries to help with training.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/iraq.html
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']dont be a fool indian, your ass better vote Kerry[/quote]

don't worry ira... just wanted to get some points for the other side.
 
JCDenton- so when was Bush going to start creating jobs? oh wait he already has been, for every 1 job he creates, 2 jobs get lost.

and getting more money out of my paycheck, sorry i am not a millionare who is actually benifiting from "The Bush's" tax cuts.

Mabey you should try something new like, i dont know, being sober???
 
I agree BUSH is an awful president. My monther lost her job 2 years ago and is STILL unemployed because of this dimwit. My dad got laid off could not find employment. He is working 2 jobs that both together pay less than what he was making.

Please vote Kerry Bush has almost gotten this country in another great depression.
 
You shouldn't. There have been some great Republican presidents over the years. I would never tell you to always vote Democrat. I am going to vote for some Republicans (mainly minorities) for local government, and I like one or two of the conservative Supreme Court justices (obviously not Scalia). But Bush is the worst president we've had in my lifetime. Kerry is not an ideal candidate, but he is not the abhorrent, bombastic, deceptive, murderous piece of shit that Bush is.
 
[quote name='illennium']You shouldn't. There have been some great Republican presidents over the years. I would never tell you to always vote Democrat. I am going to vote for some Republicans (mainly minorities) for local government, and I like one or two of the conservative Supreme Court justices (obviously not Scalia). But Bush is the worst president we've had in my lifetime. Kerry is not an ideal candidate, but he is not the abhorrent, bombastic, deceptive, murderous piece of shit that Bush is.[/quote]

Seriously. Who can argue that Abraham Lincoln didn't pwn?
 
Bush...
* Killed/captured 75% of known Al-Qaeda terrorists. (3,000+)
* Identified and shutdown numerous charities and organizations funding terrorists.
* Prevented further domestic al-qaeda terrorist attacks since 9/11.
* Began fixing our crippled intel & added provisions for our security (like patriot act & dept of homeland sec.).
* Captured Saddam Hussein, liberated Iraq & Afghanistan.
* Proved that America is strong and will not stand by and watch after being attacked by Al-Qaeda due to political pressure, as happened several times under previous Clinton administration. (i.e. wtc 1993 bombing, uss cole bombing, mogadishu/"black hawk down")
* Helped economy & companies recover from double punch of economic recession handed over by previous Clinton administration along with resounding giant economic shockwaves caused by 9/11 (think about how it affected airlines, hotels, businesses in NYC both small and large, attractions like disney world, stock market, etc). Tax cuts will likely continue to propel the economy upwards in upcoming years.
* Massively increased NASA funding after 2003 space shuttle disaster, in attempts to revitalize space program & allow us to reach new goals in space.
* Indirectly unearthed saddam oil for iraq sanctions removal bribery corruption in the U.N. after Iraq war involving France and Russia by going to war without these two countries and finding proof in Iraqi documents - showing that it might not be too smart to consider the UN the end all be all of foreign policy decisions.
* Initiation of ground-based ballistic missile defense system to help protect us from wackos with nukes like N. Korea.
* "No Child Left Behind" education act to raise the bar in schools
* Massive beefing up of military funding
 
[quote name='Ruined']Bush...
* "No Child Left Behind" education act to raise the bar in schools[/quote]
Ugh, don't even get me started on the mangled mess that is NCLB.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl'][quote name='Ruined']Bush...
* "No Child Left Behind" education act to raise the bar in schools[/quote]
Ugh, don't even get me started on the mangled mess that is NCLB.[/quote]

do you mean things like not having kids take standardized tests so that it boosts the average?

Every time I hear No child left behind I think of the fact that they would always send off 2 or 3 kids and tell them that they are exempt from the test. They also would drill you for months for this test, just so it was easier to weed out the one's who would not pass.

No Child Left Behind is the biggest crock of shit. All of these things happened in the state of Texas while he ran things. I know, because I was there.




Also I love how Republicans criticize the democrats for cutting troop levels and millitary funding. I guess no one wants to look at the fact that the Gulf War was over as well as the Cold War.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Also I love how Republicans criticize the democrats for cutting troop levels and millitary funding. I guess no one wants to look at the fact that the Gulf War was over as well as the Cold War.[/quote]

If Kerry got all the defense cuts and weapon systems cuts he voted for and proposed in the senate (but were overturned by the majority), we would have been far, far less prepared to respond after 9/11. That is why cutting back when things "seem" peaceful is bad, because the world is a very unpredicatable place and war can be sparked at any moment.

As for NCLB, it was a great start, but it needs more revision I agree. Still, it should be commended for being the first major government sweeping reform of education in a long time, and understood that because of that it will probably have a lot of kinks that will need to be ironed out over time. Biggest complainers I hear about NCLB are teachers who have to go back to school because they have no formal education in the specific subject they teach, and I think that is a great thing.
 
* Killed/captured 75% of known Al-Qaeda terrorists. (3,000+)

- when asked "75% of what number" - Condi Rice, the National Security Advisor couldn't even pin down whether the number was in the tens, or the hundreds. The official RNC point, incidentally, is 75% of Al Qaeda "leaders," but since no one knows what the number actually is, the statement itself is a bald-faced lie. Not to mention that it doesn't account for the change in their ranks since we've invaded Iraq, which is undoubtedly a tremendous increase in numbers.

* Identified and shutdown numerous charities and organizations funding terrorists.

- in addition to having campaigned in 2000 with a person who had known terrorist ties. Can't specifically remember the name of the guy, but yeah. And it took literally *years* after 9/11 to actively start shutting down known fronts for terrorist fundraising. Why? I have no freakin' clue. Kerry, on the other hand, was responsible for the exposure of the BCCI, which was an international criminal bank, run by Pakistanis, which funded Osama bin Laden in part, in the '80's and '90's.

* Prevented further domestic al-qaeda terrorist attacks since 9/11.

- possibly, but given how utterly inept he's actually been at tracking down the sources of the problem, and given the substantial *rise* in terrorist activity in the last few years, he's not doing such a good job of actually stopping the source of the problem.

* Began fixing our crippled intel & added provisions for our security (like patriot act & dept of homeland sec.).

- The patriot act is a mess, the department of homeland security is a political tool at the moment - whose most substantial achievements thus far are tracking down Democrats fleeing from an ethically corrupt redistricting movement in Texas, and issuing politically timed terrorist warnings based on known outdated or irrelevant information.

* Captured Saddam Hussein, liberated Iraq & Afghanistan.

- If you're going to lay claim to liberating Iraq and Afghanistan, can we also touch on that he's turned both countries into hellholes on the verge of civil wars? Parts of Afghanistan are again run by the Taliban, and Iraq, well, we read about that every day.

* Proved that America is strong and will not stand by and watch after being attacked by Al-Qaeda due to political pressure, as happened several times under previous Clinton administration. (i.e. wtc 1993 bombing, uss cole bombing, mogadishu/"black hawk down")

- ... yeah. Drink the Kool-Aid, man. "America is still strong" in what sense? That we get ourselves into indefensible quagmires, having alienated virtually all of our major allies, squandered incredible post-9/11 goodwill, and created a nexus of terrorist recruitment in Iraq? Marvelous.

* Helped economy & companies recover from double punch of economic recession handed over by previous Clinton administration along with resounding giant economic shockwaves caused by 9/11 (think about how it affected airlines, hotels, businesses in NYC both small and large, attractions like disney world, stock market, etc). Tax cuts will likely continue to propel the economy upwards in upcoming years.

- Clinton recession? Bullshit. And in terms of the estimated post 9/11 effects of the tax cuts, I believe Bush is more than seven MILLION jobs short of his administration's predictions. The tax cuts aren't working even remotely as well as they were predicted to, and have cost us trillions of dollars in deficit spending.

* Massively increased NASA funding after 2003 space shuttle disaster, in attempts to revitalize space program & allow us to reach new goals in space.

- Right! On to Mars, bitches!!!

* Indirectly unearthed saddam oil for iraq sanctions removal bribery corruption in the U.N. after Iraq war involving France and Russia by going to war without these two countries and finding proof in Iraqi documents - showing that it might not be too smart to consider the UN the end all be all of foreign policy decisions.

- Can't say I know much about the oil-for-food issue, so I'll refrain from saying anything here.

* Initiation of ground-based ballistic missile defense system to help protect us from wackos with nukes like N. Korea.

- Ah, yes. After 18 guys with boxcutters killed 3.000 people, clearly, the best way to defend us is with a ballistic missile defense system that doesn't even work in practical application. Smart. S.M.R.T.

* "No Child Left Behind" education act to raise the bar in schools

- And yet not properly fund it, so that educators are tied to these somewhat arbitrary measures of success that they simply don't have the funds to adequately prepare kids for.

* Massive beefing up of military funding

- Really? Seems to me like more moves have been made to restrict funding for veterans' health benefits, and cut combat pay. Oh, maybe it's the two wars he's gotten us into, that have stretched our military so thin that stop-loss programs have been enacted, and memos are flying around about a special-services draft.

Sorry, man. Your points, and you, are stupid.

seppo
 
[quote name='helava']- The patriot act is a mess, the department of homeland security is a political tool at the moment - whose most substantial achievements thus far are tracking down Democrats fleeing from an ethically corrupt redistricting movement in Texas, and issuing politically timed terrorist warnings based on known outdated or irrelevant information.[/quote]

Don't forget defending us from counterfit Rubik's Cubes. Surely their crusade to defend us from unlicensed merchandise is worth the tens, if not hundreds, of millions it cost to create the organization.
 
[quote name='helava']* Killed/captured 75% of known Al-Qaeda terrorists. (3,000+)

- when asked "75% of what number" - Condi Rice, the National Security Advisor couldn't even pin down whether the number was in the tens, or the hundreds. The official RNC point, incidentally, is 75% of Al Qaeda "leaders," but since no one knows what the number actually is, the statement itself is a bald-faced lie. Not to mention that it doesn't account for the change in their ranks since we've invaded Iraq, which is undoubtedly a tremendous increase in numbers.[/quote]

Hence the term "known" Al-Qaeda. If we don't know they are a terrorist, it isn't included in the 75%. And in case you didn't see, next to it I put the actual number, 3,000+ known terrorists, which is a lot.

* Identified and shutdown numerous charities and organizations funding terrorists.

- in addition to having campaigned in 2000 with a person who had known terrorist ties. Can't specifically remember the name of the guy, but yeah. And it took literally *years* after 9/11 to actively start shutting down known fronts for terrorist fundraising. Why? I have no freakin' clue. Kerry, on the other hand, was responsible for the exposure of the BCCI, which was an international criminal bank, run by Pakistanis, which funded Osama bin Laden in part, in the '80's and '90's.

Putting down the tinfoil hat, many islamic charities, organizations, and individuals that fed terrorists were shutdown under Bush. This is a fact.

* Prevented further domestic al-qaeda terrorist attacks since 9/11.

- possibly, but given how utterly inept he's actually been at tracking down the sources of the problem, and given the substantial *rise* in terrorist activity in the last few years, he's not doing such a good job of actually stopping the source of the problem.

Obviously he's not so inept at tracking it down if over 3,000 al-qaeda have been killed and they haven't been able to hit us again eh? Use common sense. And of course after 9/11 there is going to be a rise in terrorism no matter what we do, it was the biggest victory for terrorists of all time. The difference is, Bush made sure our own soil wasn't the target for that terrorism.

* Began fixing our crippled intel & added provisions for our security (like patriot act & dept of homeland sec.).

- The patriot act is a mess, the department of homeland security is a political tool at the moment - whose most substantial achievements thus far are tracking down Democrats fleeing from an ethically corrupt redistricting movement in Texas, and issuing politically timed terrorist warnings based on known outdated or irrelevant information.

The patriot act has led to the capture of terrorists and/or supporters of terrorists and the dept of homeland security keeps the public in the know. These are both important functions.

* Captured Saddam Hussein, liberated Iraq & Afghanistan.

- If you're going to lay claim to liberating Iraq and Afghanistan, can we also touch on that he's turned both countries into hellholes on the verge of civil wars? Parts of Afghanistan are again run by the Taliban, and Iraq, well, we read about that every day.

Actually reports from soldiers in the front lines show things are going quite well in Afghanistan. Afghanistan was able to hold free elections and had a massive voter turnout. If it was as bad as you claim, they wouldn't be able to have elections or they would have been the victim of a terrorist attack. Obviously Afghanistan is progressing nicely. Iraq is currently a mess, but we are working on it. Al-Qaeda has made Iraq the new battleground, and we are beating them slowly but surely.

* Proved that America is strong and will not stand by and watch after being attacked by Al-Qaeda due to political pressure, as happened several times under previous Clinton administration. (i.e. wtc 1993 bombing, uss cole bombing, mogadishu/"black hawk down")

- ... yeah. Drink the Kool-Aid, man. "America is still strong" in what sense? That we get ourselves into indefensible quagmires, having alienated virtually all of our major allies, squandered incredible post-9/11 goodwill, and created a nexus of terrorist recruitment in Iraq? Marvelous.

Ah, this goes down to the point you didn't know about. France and Russia had deals with Saddam Hussein according to documents we uncovered in Iraq. Saddam gave France and Russia free oil and/or weapons, and in return, France and Russia were supposed to keep Saddam out of trouble in the UN and work for getting sanctions removed off Iraq (so Saddam can pursue his weapons programs again). This is why they didn't want to go to war, they were on Saddam's payroll. And by the way, the US has only one true "major" ally, and has only had one true major ally, and that is the UK - who joined us. It's also better to fight the war on terror on the soil of Iraq than the soil of the United States.

* Helped economy & companies recover from double punch of economic recession handed over by previous Clinton administration along with resounding giant economic shockwaves caused by 9/11 (think about how it affected airlines, hotels, businesses in NYC both small and large, attractions like disney world, stock market, etc). Tax cuts will likely continue to propel the economy upwards in upcoming years.

- Clinton recession? Bullshit. And in terms of the estimated post 9/11 effects of the tax cuts, I believe Bush is more than seven MILLION jobs short of his administration's predictions. The tax cuts aren't working even remotely as well as they were predicted to, and have cost us trillions of dollars in deficit spending.

Yes, Clinton recession, do some research. Economic slowdown began under the Clinton administration during Q3 2000 according to the Commerce Department. i.e.:
http://home.flash.net/~stevew9/opinion/opinion015.htm

The tax cuts are making the economy recover slowly and surely. Again, we had a double puinch of the Clinton-started recession plus 9/11, that is not something where you can just turn around the economy instantly with a magic wand.

* Massively increased NASA funding after 2003 space shuttle disaster, in attempts to revitalize space program & allow us to reach new goals in space.

- Right! On to Mars, bitches!!!

Do you prefer we just allow Russia to zoom past us in terms of space travel technology? You find exploring space unimportant?

* Indirectly unearthed saddam oil for iraq sanctions removal bribery corruption in the U.N. after Iraq war involving France and Russia by going to war without these two countries and finding proof in Iraqi documents - showing that it might not be too smart to consider the UN the end all be all of foreign policy decisions.

- Can't say I know much about the oil-for-food issue, so I'll refrain from saying anything here.

Let me help you out:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041007-123838-3146r.htm

* Initiation of ground-based ballistic missile defense system to help protect us from wackos with nukes like N. Korea.

- Ah, yes. After 18 guys with boxcutters killed 3.000 people, clearly, the best way to defend us is with a ballistic missile defense system that doesn't even work in practical application. Smart. S.M.R.T.

Very smart, because terrorists on our own soil is not the only threat to the US. North Korea has ballistic misslies that they can launch from the comfort of their own military base and hit California with. We can't lose sight of that threat.

* "No Child Left Behind" education act to raise the bar in schools

- And yet not properly fund it, so that educators are tied to these somewhat arbitrary measures of success that they simply don't have the funds to adequately prepare kids for.

Enough funding was alotted, though of course the schools are going to ask for more, and more is always welcome. I'm sure more funding will be provided in the future and that the kinks will be ironed out in time.

* Massive beefing up of military funding

- Really? Seems to me like more moves have been made to restrict funding for veterans' health benefits, and cut combat pay. Oh, maybe it's the two wars he's gotten us into, that have stretched our military so thin that stop-loss programs have been enacted, and memos are flying around about a special-services draft.

Nope, Bush has spent more on the military than any president of recent times. As for the draft bill, it was introduced by Charlie Wrangle, a democrat, and was massively voted down in the senate, even wrangle voted against his own bill. Bush and Rumsfeld have both stated there would be no draft numerous times, as we have more than enough troops in reserve and if we needed more we could just increase the benefits/incentives of joining the military. Also Bush couldn't just re-enact the draft even if he wanted to, Congress would have to authorize it. It is a fairy tale scare tactic conjured up by the DNC to attempt to get Kerry re-elected. If Kerry stays the course as he stated in Iraq, or if we need to go to war again in the future under him due to another attack, we'd be more likely to have a draft under Kerry - because over 3/4 of the military are Bush supporters, and recruitment numbers will likely go down under Kerry because of this.

Sorry, man. Your points, and you, are stupid.

Do some research on what you are talking about before you call someone names.
 
I'm not going to argue any points here, I just chimed in to say that as a "nut" (and a registered voter) I will NOT be voting for Bush in 2 days despite what was previously advertised so to speak. I'm not registered as either party and I usually don't disclose my decisions but I didn't want my vote to be falsely painted. I likely won't vote for anyone (except maybe a write-in or something I dunno), besides voting in IN for prez means little anyhow, therefore I'm actually much more concerned about congressional, state and local elections.

I really hope everybody doesn't think I'm a nut. I really try to be impartial in disuccsion and just call out facts that I think are either wrong or have been twisted. I seriuosly don't mean to play sides really, however I can see where some would peg my for a republican backer from my posts here. Hopefully if you spoke to me in person you'd not see it so much that way.
 
1.) Just for the record, the Washington Times is owned by Sun Myung Moon, and they are heavily biased in favor of the GOP and Bush - this is a known, well-publicized fact, and even reporters have acknowledged that they have been forced to change the factual content of their articles to match the ideology of the owner. This is also a known, publicized fact, and it gives the Washington Times literally zero credibility when it comes to anything.

2.) Your quote: "Al-Qaeda has made Iraq the new battleground, and we are beating them slowly but surely."

Al Qaeda didn't make Iraq the new battleground. Bush did. And this would imply that you buy into the "flypaper" theory, or the "terrorists can't do two things at the same time," theory, which is pretty stupid. Just because we're fighting in Iraq doesn't make us *any* safer from terrorists at home. Just because one group of people is fighting in Iraq doesn't mean at all that cells aren't planning attacks all around the world simultaneously, as well.

3.) Please source your quote that we've captured 75% of Al Qaeda. My recollection of the quote is 75% of Al Qaeda's leaders. But even then, Condi Rice, again, couldn't even figure out whether that was in the tens, or hundreds, of people. She literally had *no idea* how many people they expect would compose 100% of that number, making the 75% statistic utterly, totally meaningless.

4.) While the Patriot Act has undoubtedly assisted in the capture of some terrorist, at what cost? Would you be willing to sacrifice all your personal liberties in the name of terrorist hunting? Right now, the government can come arrest you, label you an enemy combatant, throw you in jail without even accusing you of anything, or letting you contact anyone. This is not the American way, and it should never *be* the American way. This is not justice, and it is not freedom.

5.) Here's an article for you re: The "Clinton Recession" from BusinessWeek: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_08/b3871044.htm

6.) re: Missile Defense - Do you know what "opportunity cost" and "risk assessment" are? While missile defense may be worth it in an economic vacuum, given unlimited resources, and time, are ICBM's really our number one threat? Is it really how we should be spending billions of dollars, while our ports are unsecured? Would missile defense help us if a Russian nuke fell into the hands of a terrorist, who sends it overseas in a shipping container to someone who unleashes it on US soil? The point being, given all the threats we face, missile defense is *way* down on the list. Way, way down on the list of both priority, and even then, feasibility.

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