Why was Grand Theft pulled from shelves?

electrictroy

electrictroy

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Okay, it had nudity/sex in it.

So what?

It was RATED M which allows nudity/sex in a game (points to the Sims). So why couldn't they just leave GTA on the shelves since it was already properly rated?

troy
 
Actually, the nudity and sex was hardcore and explicit, which the "M" rating does not cover. The "Ao" or "Adults Only" rating covers hardcore sexual content.
 
I'm not behind. I just felt like discussing this issue since it's still relevant.[quote name='Jerichoedge']Actually, the nudity and sex was hardcore and explicit, which the "M" rating does not cover. The "Ao" or "Adults Only" rating covers hardcore sexual content.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the explanation

I had read it was no more "hardcore" than the Sims sex... but okay. So will the AO version be on shelves?

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I'm not behind. I just felt like discussing this issue since it's still relevant.

Thanks for the explanation

I had read it was no more "hardcore" than the Sims sex... but okay. So will the AO version be on shelves?

troy[/QUOTE]

How is it no more hardcore than the Sims, unless somehow you are playing a "3d" version of the Sims? Just thought I'd ask that question.
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I had read it was no more "hardcore" than the Sims sex... but okay. So will the AO version be on shelves?[/QUOTE]
The Sims is just cartoony implied stuff. The stuff in the original GTASA was full-on; it couldn't have been any more explicit without being a straight-up porn game.

And regarding the AO version being on shelves: Don't count on many retailers carrying it.
 
:applause::applause::applause:

[quote name='CoffeeEdge']The Sims is just cartoony implied stuff. The stuff in the original GTASA was full-on; it couldn't have been any more explicit without being a straight-up porn game.

And regarding the AO version being on shelves: Don't count on many retailers carrying it.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']The Sims is just cartoony implied stuff. The stuff in the original GTASA was full-on; it couldn't have been any more explicit without being a straight-up porn game..[/QUOTE]

GTA was implied too. No nudity and no gentalia. Just animation in "special" positions. That's what made the whole situation frustrating.
 
[quote name='gamereviewgod']GTA was implied too. No nudity and no gentalia. Just animation in "special" positions. That's what made the whole situation frustrating.[/QUOTE]

I'm guessing you had trouble beating the mini-game. :D
 
how was it hardcore? I don't think people dryhump in hardcore porn.
 
[quote name='Apossum']how was it hardcore? I don't think people dryhump in hardcore porn.[/QUOTE]

It showed lifelike animations of sexual acts. The Sims shows two people making movements under the covers, there is quite a difference between the two.
 
[quote name='gamereviewgod']GTA was implied too. No nudity and no gentalia. Just animation in "special" positions. That's what made the whole situation frustrating.[/quote]

No nudity? Have you ever even seen it? Go watch this (18+ only, blah blah). So, I guess she's just wearing flesh-colored clothes, with details in the right places?

And if anyone, after watching that video, still tries to compare what's in The Sims to what's in GTA:SA, then I officially give up.

It's far beyond what's allowed in M-rated games, and you all know it. End of story.
 
meh it was not even in the real game, you had to go out of your way to see it, I really dont see the big deal, If you are mature enough to bash someone's head in with a bat in a video game, you should be mature enough to have sex in a video game.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']It showed lifelike animations of sexual acts. The Sims shows two people making movements under the covers, there is quite a difference between the two.[/QUOTE]


understood, but hardcore = showing penetration. GTA is just some naked chick getting dry humped. the story of my 6th grade life :roll: :lol:
 
[quote name='Apossum']understood, but hardcore = showing penetration. GTA is just some naked chick getting dry humped. the story of my 6th grade life :roll: :lol:[/QUOTE]

You were a naked chick in 6th grade getting dry humped? :rofl:
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']meh it was not even in the real game, you had to go out of your way to see it[/QUOTE]

That's the magic variable right there. The PC version needed modification, the console versions needed cheats. Anything like that should not be taken into ratings considerations, and it should not have been recalled/re-rated.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']
And regarding the AO version being on shelves: Don't count on many retailers carrying it.
Click to expand...
:applause::applause::applause:[/QUOTE]

I don't know what you're clapping for. Their should be adult-only games just as there are adult-only magazines or adult-only movies. You yourself may not be interested, which is fine, but that doesn't give you the right to censor what other people see.

troy
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']It showed lifelike animations of sexual acts[/QUOTE]


So does Playboy, but that's labeled "softcore". GTA should be able to be sold anywhere Playboy videos are.

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I don't know what you're clapping for. Their should be adult-only games just as there are adult-only magazines or adult-only movies. You yourself may not be interested, which is fine, but that doesn't give you the right to censor what other people see.

troy[/QUOTE]
That may be what you think, but stores like Wal-Mart and the other big video game sellers will not sell an AO game, which is why Rockstar removed the content and released the M rated version a month or so ago.
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I don't know what you're clapping for. Their should be adult-only games just as there are adult-only magazines or adult-only movies. You yourself may not be interested, which is fine, but that doesn't give you the right to censor what other people see.

troy[/QUOTE]

You want to talk about me censoring, and when you quote me, you only use half the quote, who's censoring now? I was clapping about the first half of the quote, not the 2nd half. Get it right.

Heres the quote you didn't get all of.

[quote name=' [b']CoffeeEdge][/b] The Sims is just cartoony implied stuff. The stuff in the original GTASA was full-on; it couldn't have been any more explicit without being a straight-up porn game.

And regarding the AO version being on shelves: Don't count on many retailers carrying it.[/quote]
 
[quote name='vietgurl']I never understood why the guy didn't take his clothes off in the scene anyway[/QUOTE]
It was incomplete code. It was never meant to be found (well I hope not) and the programmers prolly didn't have the time/cost to go back and remove that specific piece of code so they just locked hoping no one would be able to access it
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']You were a naked chick in 6th grade getting dry humped? :rofl:[/QUOTE]


ah, fuck! :lol:
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']No nudity? Have you ever even seen it? Go watch this (18+ only, blah blah). So, I guess she's just wearing flesh-colored clothes, with details in the right places?
.[/QUOTE]

That was a nude hack. She's fully clothed when unlocked with the AR on consoles.
 
[quote name='Vegan']That's the magic variable right there. The PC version needed modification, the console versions needed cheats. Anything like that should not be taken into ratings considerations, and it should not have been recalled/re-rated.[/QUOTE]
What? It was easily accessible to anyone who wanted to see it and therefore SHOULD have been re-rated. It was built into the game, I don't see why the rating shouldn't have reflected that.

[quote name='Ikohn4ever'] meh it was not even in the real game, you had to go out of your way to see it, I really dont see the big deal, If you are mature enough to bash someone's head in with a bat in a video game, you should be mature enough to have sex in a video game.[/quote]
It's the combination of the two that makes it so bad.

[quote name='Odenat']It was incomplete code. It was never meant to be found (well I hope not) and the programmers prolly didn't have the time/cost to go back and remove that specific piece of code so they just locked hoping no one would be able to access it[/quote]
I don't buy that in the slightest. Just because they never told anybody about it doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be found (and who really searches games for sex mini-games?). The clothes were likely left on so hopefully it wouldn't be too huge of a deal once uncovered. Though I might agree if you were to say they didn't want to go too far out of the way that it would deter from the main project.

[quote name='electrictroy']
So does Playboy, but that's labeled "softcore". GTA should be able to be sold anywhere Playboy videos are.[/quote]
Playboys aren't available at Wal-Mart and many of the entertainment stores (and even when they are, they're in a small section and covered up)
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I was clapping about the first half of the quote, not the 2nd half. Get it right. [/QUOTE]


Then you should do a better job of editing, so it's clear to readers what you mean. (See below your post.) The hand-clapping directly follows the sentences about GTA not being sold at retail stores. *Blame yourself* not others for your poor editing skills.


[quote name='coffeeedge']The Sims is just cartoony implied stuff. The stuff in the original GTASA was full-on; it couldn't have been any more explicit without being a straight-up porn game.

And regarding the AO version being on shelves: Don't count on many retailers carrying it.
Click to expand...
:applause: :applause: :applause: [/quote]

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I don't know what you're clapping for. Their should be adult-only games just as there are adult-only magazines or adult-only movies. You yourself may not be interested, which is fine, but that doesn't give you the right to censor what other people see.

troy[/QUOTE]

this is probably the reason you feel that your life is meaningless - you really like adult themed merchandise :roll: I always woindered what kind of people watched Showtime after midnight :rofl:

joe
 
[quote name='joevan']this is probably the reason you feel that your life is meaningless - you really like adult themed merchandise :roll: I always woindered what kind of people watched Showtime after midnight :rofl:

joe[/QUOTE]

no dude, all the good softcore is on Skinemax. :lol:
 
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