Wii in higher demand?

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Okay, So I hop onto Ebay and start hunting down a PS3 as I just received my half-month, year-end bonus from my employer. I track down a PS3 and win the auction for a modest $674.00 for a 20GB version. I felt bad because if I would have waited just 1 more day I would have payed about $50 less for the unit. The average prices for the PS3's as of today are ~600.00 for a 20GB and ~ $850.00 for the 60GB model, a difference of $100 and $250 dollars respectively and many of the systems are receiving no bids whatsoever (reasonably priced ones that is). Has eBay become so over saturated with Playstation's that sellers have all knocked each other out by creating and endless supply of these things? When I went over and looked at the Wii's I saw that the units are selling for ~ $475.00, which is almost double what the unit originally costs. I am no fanboy and now I have all three systems, but I gotta say that I am kind of happy that the Nintendo system is in high demand...
 
A lot of the reason why the Wii is in greater demand is because Nintendo loyalists are a rabid, usually disturbing bunch whose need for their Wii makes Eric Cartman seem like someone who's reached total enlightenment.

Other reasons include the fact that the Wii selling at almost a 100% mark-up is still way cheaper than a PS3 selling at a 20-30% markup, and that the PS3 launch line-up pretty much sucks. I think the Wii is really connecting more with the 'young professional' crowd that watches Scrubs and The Office and just can't get enough of the iCulture. Not bragging, but I really saw this coming months ago.

P.S. There's also the mentality for many, I think, that they've just written off the PS3 for the next few months, and definitely for the holidays. People semi-erroneously think the Wii is far more 'gettable', so therefore they're still trying for it, be it in retail or online.
 
I think a big reason why the Wii is still in high demand, is becuase the Wii is more likely to be purchased by parents for Christmas over the PS3.

I stood in line last weekend to get a Wii (# 4 out of 23!) at Circuit City and most of the people in line were parents looking to get it for their kids as a Christmas present. I think the $500 or $600 price point of the PS3 is too much for parents to spend on a video game system for their kids.

The parents that don't have time to stand in line and check the stores are probably going to buy a Wii off eBay, keeping the average price up.

I think that is one of many reasons why the Wii has been in strong demand.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']A lot of the reason why the Wii is in greater demand is because Nintendo loyalists are a rabid, usually disturbing bunch whose need for their Wii makes Eric Cartman seem like someone who's reached total enlightenment.

Other reasons include the fact that the Wii selling at almost a 100% mark-up is still way cheaper than a PS3 selling at a 20-30% markup, and that the PS3 launch line-up pretty much sucks. I think the Wii is really connecting more with the 'young professional' crowd that watches Scrubs and The Office and just can't get enough of the iCulture. Not bragging, but I really saw this coming months ago.

P.S. There's also the mentality for many, I think, that they've just written off the PS3 for the next few months, and definitely for the holidays. People semi-erroneously think the Wii is far more 'gettable', so therefore they're still trying for it, be it in retail or online.[/QUOTE]



Gotta agree with you there. Honestly there is really no reason to get either machine right now as they only have 1 killer app each; that would be Zelda for the Wii and Resistance for the PS3, hardly enough to justify purchasing either right now.
 
[quote name='Wlogan31']OP - you coulda had mine for $650 shipped...I've been trying to move it at that price for 3 weeks :)[/QUOTE]


Man, I wish I would've run into you sooner! BTW, is it used or still sealed, etc?
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']A lot of the reason why the Wii is in greater demand is because Nintendo loyalists are a rabid, usually disturbing bunch whose need for their Wii makes Eric Cartman seem like someone who's reached total enlightenment.

Other reasons include the fact that the Wii selling at almost a 100% mark-up is still way cheaper than a PS3 selling at a 20-30% markup, and that the PS3 launch line-up pretty much sucks. I think the Wii is really connecting more with the 'young professional' crowd that watches Scrubs and The Office and just can't get enough of the iCulture. Not bragging, but I really saw this coming months ago.

P.S. There's also the mentality for many, I think, that they've just written off the PS3 for the next few months, and definitely for the holidays. People semi-erroneously think the Wii is far more 'gettable', so therefore they're still trying for it, be it in retail or online.[/QUOTE]

I think your idea about the buying audience is all wrong. It's not the young professional crowd that annoys me at work all day wanting a Wii. It's parents. They've created the demand and many are more rabid than most console fanboys. Their word of mouth and high demand for this has surpassed the PS3 marketing blitz, the news coverage regarding the PS3 launch, the Hi-def debate. Nintendo wants it to be a system for everyone, and it certainly has caught the attention of everyone, mainly kids and their parents though. The young professional crowd and Nintendo loyalist got theirs already for the most part as they were probably lined up at launch and the parents oftne come in later.
 
Nintendo gets no credit for this. Its all just fanboys.

Also, having at least twice as many systems as a competitor = marginally more "Gettable"
 
Wii's too a big jump in price on Ebay snce Launch. I bought mine off of ebay 2 days after launch on the 21st for 375.00 shipped. Which included Zelda with overnight shipping. The guy only made like 30.00 after fee's and such and I was happy to pay a bit over cost since finding them is pretty hard now. Also paying a bit over so I didnt have to stand in line is worth it.
 
The Wii gets mentioned on the Colbert Report, South Park, and in a Cathy comic strip.

It is getting universal praise from just about every major publication and news source out there.

To suggest it is only fanboys buying this is stupid. Do you hear me? You are stupid if you think that. Really stupid. Like "I wonder how you get your pants on in the morning" stupid, as well as managed to continue breathing while you are asleep.

It's no different than when the DS came out 2 years ago - it had barely any worthwhile apps at all outside of Mario 64 DS and Feel the Magic (both of which were only termed killer apps based on comparing them to the other crap that was out at the time), but it still sold out at launch.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Wii's too a big jump in price on Ebay snce Launch. I bought mine off of ebay 2 days after launch on the 21st for 375.00 shipped. Which included Zelda with overnight shipping. The guy only made like 30.00 after fee's and such and I was happy to pay a bit over cost since finding them is pretty hard now. Also paying a bit over so I didnt have to stand in line is worth it.[/QUOTE]

Thirty-dollars is totally worth it. Especially if you live in a place that is freezing cold. I just find it surprising that we have this demand now, because NO ONE was preordering the Wii's when I preordered mine. In fact, the day that Gamestop was doing there pre-orders I got to the store five minutes before it opened and I was the second person in line (the store had 14 units). Now, there is the absolute fervor over this little machine and I can't explain why. It went from being second fiddle to the PS3, to being sold out everywhere!
 
[quote name='hardwo0d']Thirty-dollars is totally worth it. Especially if you live in a place that is freezing cold. I just find it surprising that we have this demand now, because NO ONE was preordering the Wii's when I preordered mine. In fact, the day that Gamestop was doing there pre-orders I got to the store five minutes before it opened and I was the second person in line (the store had 14 units). Now, there is the absolute fervor over this little machine and I can't explain why. It went from being second fiddle to the PS3, to being sold out everywhere![/QUOTE]

I work retail. I never get any questions on when are we getting more PS3's. I always get questions about Wii's. Wii this and Wii that lol.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']I work retail. I never get any questions on when are we getting more PS3's. I always get questions about Wii's. Wii this and Wii that lol.[/QUOTE]

Same with my wife at Sams... She says she is pulling in 40-50 calls a day herself on the wii and shes not supposed to be taking the calls for that department... if that tells you anything.
 
Remember how everyone through you can just walk into a store and get a wii and sell the PS3 for $10000 profit? That should answer your question.
 
Wii frenzy is crazy right now. These things are easily going to hit $800-$1000 on eBay when it's closer to Christmas. There are parents in stores everywhere around here just lining up around lunch time everyday just in hopes that the UPS man will bring Wii's.

I even have a list of people I'm supposed to buy Wii's for since I'm "the guy that can find things" in my family. I only have to find 3 more Wii's before I can actually keep one for myself!

To quote myself from earlier today:

[quote name='shipwreck']Yep, waltzed in and picked up a 60GB PS3 earlier today.

shipwreck: "Did you get any Wii's in today?"

employee: "Nope, but we have PS3's."

shipwreck: "Give me one of those I guess."[/quote]
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Whats this Cathy comic strip all about? I cant find it.[/QUOTE]

It's about this overweight girl who eats a lot of candy and shops a lot.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']It's about this overweight girl who eats a lot of candy and shops a lot.[/QUOTE]

:rofl: I think he meant this Wii Cathy Strip in particular. Good Stuff though.
 
Sad to say, but I STILL haven't actually seen a PS3 in action. Every single store i have been to that has one has had problems with it. I don't know if it is problems with the system or just problems with the hook up, BUT that doesn't really matter since if you can't see the damn thing it does no good to anyone who might be thinking about buying it.
 
t's about this overweight girl who eats a lot of candy and shops a lot.

And it's sub-Ziggy terrible.

But that's why I included the iCulture, "young professional" crowd in the equation. The Comedy Central pimping (make no mistake, it's all very calculated guerrilla marketing, Nintendo just doesn't want to cop to it), the 'hosannas' its received in all the thin weekly news mags, and, yes, even Cathy (or is it with a "K"?). Perhaps they've already early-adopted, but I honestly don't think many of them have the time to linesit. They're getting them whenever it's feasible.

I won't dispute how resilient (to be diplomatic) these moms must be, though. But they're a given in any holiday season, of course.
 
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[quote name='schuerm26']Sad to say, but I STILL haven't actually seen a PS3 in action. Every single store i have been to that has one has had problems with it. I don't know if it is problems with the system or just problems with the hook up, BUT that doesn't really matter since if you can't see the damn thing it does no good to anyone who might be thinking about buying it.[/QUOTE]

I have noticed the same thing. 2 different Target stores and 2 different Best Buy stores all 4 have the system either turned off or it had some wording on the screen (don't remember exactly what it said)
 
[quote name='YoshiFan1']I have noticed the same thing. 2 different Target stores and 2 different Best Buy stores all 4 have the system either turned off or it had some wording on the screen (don't remember exactly what it said)[/QUOTE]

Ours is off at 2 of the 3 gamestops/eb's I have went to recently...

Honestly SOny should have waited till next year to launch.
 
Cathy comic strips should either print with a yogurt smudge mark on one of panels, or the last panel should ditch the punchline and just be a coupon for Snackwells.
 
The times they are a-changin' I guess. I still cannot explain what all the hoopla is about though. I mean, I have my Wii and its fun and I have a great time with Zelda, but the system is seriously lacking. The Virtual Console games are all really bad with the exception of Mario 64 IMHO. The Wii launch I would say is a little better than that of the PS3, but not enough to justify its purchase. So, the question here is, Did Sony shoot themselves in the foot by making the system so expensive and forcing Blu-Ray down everyone's throat? The Sony Playstation 2 sold MORE units than the Super Nintendo, Nintedo 64 and Gamecube combined! There must be a reason for all this anti-PS3 sentiment. It is my opinion that if Sony would have not included the player and matched the price of the Xbox360, i.e. around $400 it would have sold alot more. People are not sold on Blu-Ray and alot are hesitant to purchase all there movies again in Hi-Def.
 
A lot of the Wii hype is the general population just being 'trendy' and catching a whiff of the gaming community's fervor. I'm not saying the system will flop in the long-term, mind you, but after Christmas, I predict a lot of Wii being all but ignored, especially once people go HD. It's all about being 'with it' for so many people, regardless of what the object of frontrunning desire is. You watch. Its flame is burning too brightly, too quickly, to ever sustain itself.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']A lot of the Wii hype is the general population just being 'trendy' and catching a whiff of the gaming community's fervor. I'm not saying the system will flop in the long-term, mind you, but after Christmas, I predict a lot of Wii being all but ignored, especially once people go HD. It's all about being 'with it' for so many people, regardless of what the object of frontrunning desire is. You watch. Its flame is burning too brightly, too quickly, to ever sustain itself.[/QUOTE]

This is the most ludicrous statement in this thread, based on absolutely nothing but personal opinion.

I'm posting a quote of it just to see how wrong or right you are.

I'm even being nice about it by saying you could be either/or, instead of what I think will be the projected outcome.
 
[quote name='Strell']This is the most ludicrous statement in this thread, based on absolutely nothing but personal opinion.

I'm posting a quote of it just to see how wrong or right you are.

I'm even being nice about it by saying you could be either/or, instead of what I think will be the projected outcome.[/QUOTE]

It's not completely ludicrous. Next year, kids will want something else for Christmas. (I'm not saying the Wii is a "kiddy" console, just that's what is driving the frenzy right now.)

It will be interesting to see how the PS3 does since it will never have it's own PS3 crazed Christmas - the Wii came in and stole it.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']A lot of the reason why the Wii is in greater demand is because Nintendo loyalists are a rabid, usually disturbing bunch whose need for their Wii makes Eric Cartman seem like someone who's reached total enlightenment.

Other reasons include the fact that the Wii selling at almost a 100% mark-up is still way cheaper than a PS3 selling at a 20-30% markup, and that the PS3 launch line-up pretty much sucks. I think the Wii is really connecting more with the 'young professional' crowd that watches Scrubs and The Office and just can't get enough of the iCulture. Not bragging, but I really saw this coming months ago.

P.S. There's also the mentality for many, I think, that they've just written off the PS3 for the next few months, and definitely for the holidays. People semi-erroneously think the Wii is far more 'gettable', so therefore they're still trying for it, be it in retail or online.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I don't like Scrubs, I never watched The Office, and that's the first time I've ever heard the phrase "iCulture". My entire family wants a Wii now since being able to play mine. Could it be that Nintendo actually accomplished what they said they would and brought the non-gaming audience into their market? My answer to that would be a gigantic YES. Maybe that's why they're selling out.
 
[quote name='valleyvampiress']I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I don't like Scrubs, I never watched The Office, and that's the first time I've ever heard the phrase "iCulture". My entire family wants a Wii now since being able to play mine. Could it be that Nintendo actually accomplished what they said they would and brought the non-gaming audience into their market? My answer to that would be a gigantic YES. Maybe that's why they're selling out.[/QUOTE]

They are selling out because it is Christmas and kids want them. We are far from knowing whether Nintendo has actually accomplished anything with the non-gaming audience. Yes, non-gamers are liking it, but are non-gamers buying it? That won't be answered for a while.
 
[quote name='Strell']The Wii gets mentioned on the Colbert Report, South Park, and in a Cathy comic strip.

It is getting universal praise from just about every major publication and news source out there.

To suggest it is only fanboys buying this is stupid. Do you hear me? You are stupid if you think that. Really stupid. Like "I wonder how you get your pants on in the morning" stupid, as well as managed to continue breathing while you are asleep.

It's no different than when the DS came out 2 years ago - it had barely any worthwhile apps at all outside of Mario 64 DS and Feel the Magic (both of which were only termed killer apps based on comparing them to the other crap that was out at the time), but it still sold out at launch.[/QUOTE]

QFT. This morning the Wii was on motherfucking Regis & Kelly. I shit you not. And they even went to trouble of making Miis of themselves. If that's not proof of total cultural saturation, I don't know what is...

[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']The premise of that statement is that HD matters and once people figure that out, Nintendo is doomed.[/QUOTE]

Considering the vast majority of the mouth-breathing masses think HD simply equals 16:9, and most Wii games support 16:9, I honestly would be surprised if this became a buzzkill for these folks. Honestly, if you went and did a random sampling at your local WalMart, I'd bet you any amount of money you care to wager that 90% of folks surveyed will say that DVDs (480p) are synonomous with HD.
 
[quote name='Tybee']QFT. This morning the Wii was on motherfucking Regis & Kelly. I shit you not. And they even went to trouble of making Miis of themselves. If that's not proof of total cultural saturation, I don't know what is...[/QUOTE]

Wait, why were you watching Regis and Kelly?
 
I'm even being nice about it by saying you could be either/or, instead of what I think will be the projected outcome.

Well, we shall see, but the very 'novelty' factor that's getting it all the attention now could be the very thing that causes the aforementioned "trendy" types and attention-deficit-driven general public to move on. I'm rooting for Nintendo, as hard as that is to believe for so many users here, but I just don't think these 'non-gamers' Nintendo secured this Fall are going to be endlessly fascinated with the thing.

Also, you can't deny that Sony kind of drove many people right into Nintendo's arms. What happens when the PS3 is plentiful and maybe even $100 cheaper next Christmas?

I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I don't like Scrubs, I never watched The Office, and that's the first time I've ever heard the phrase "iCulture".

Geez, it's a generalization! About people who don't post on gaming boards!

I'm pretty sure that I didn't even come close to coming up with "iCulture", but regardless, you can't dispute that Nintendo isn't playing that card with the Wii. Hell, they've even got two lower-case "i"s in the thing's name!
 
[quote name='munch']Wait, why were you watching Regis and Kelly?[/QUOTE]

I was getting ready for work today and my wife said, "They're playing Wii Tennis on Regis and Kelly!"
 
Looks over at end table...

White iPod...check
White Chocolate Cell Phone...check
White DS Lite...check
White MacBook...check

Turns on DVR box and checks scheduled recordings...

Scrubs...check
The Office...check

Looks over at the cats...

iPod the cat...check
Mini the cat...check

i am iCulture
 
Don't feel bad.

I was getting ready for work today and my wife said, "They're playing Wii Tennis on Regis and Kelly!"

You don't feel bad either. I mean, I was channel-surfing last night and actually allowed a lame 'interview' with the GBA 'Christmas thief' to trick me into watching a good five minutes of Jimmy Kimmel. What's next--gasp!--The Tonight Show??
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']Don't feel bad.

I was getting ready for work today and my wife said, "They're playing Wii Tennis on Regis and Kelly!"

You don't feel bad either. I mean, I was channel-surfing last night and actually allowed a lame 'interview' with the GBA 'Christmas thief' to trick me into watching a good five minutes of Jimmy Kimmel. What's next--gasp!--The Tonight Show??[/QUOTE]

Hopefully not. Then we'll be forced to put you down. It's the merciful thing to do.

Oh, and Cathy? Worse than Ziggy, but better than Family Circus. Not that that's anything to be proud of.
 
I was hanging around EB yesterday and in the couple hours I was there, there were over 20 calls or people stopping in about Wii's and maybe two guys who came in looking for a PS3. The funny thing is the first person who asked about PS3... actually got one! (They had gotten in a shipment of four 60 giggers)
 
[quote name='Strell']This is the most ludicrous statement in this thread, based on absolutely nothing but personal opinion.

I'm posting a quote of it just to see how wrong or right you are.

I'm even being nice about it by saying you could be either/or, instead of what I think will be the projected outcome.[/quote]

I agree with Strell that the statement is based on nothing but personal opinion.

One of the faulty arguments I see on this board is the idea that "once the public goes HD, it's all over for the Wii!!!" as if HD renders non-HD systems boring and unplayable. The majority of the public STILL has no idea what high-definition is. That will remain the same "after Christmas." The general public will gradually turn to HD over the next 2 years, but even then it still won't be many until the media starts pointing out that analog signals are going to be non-existant in 2009.

On a side note, I just think the Wii is in greater demand because it's fun AND different. After one session on the Wii, my wife's family who dislikes video games and who didn't own a television until last year wants one because they have a blast with it.
 
[quote name='Plinko']On a side note, I just think the Wii is in greater demand because it's fun AND different. After one session on the Wii, my wife's family who dislikes video games and who didn't own a television until last year wants one because they have a blast with it.[/quote]

It's funny also, that people keep saying once the "novelty" wears off. The control scheme is anything but a novelty. I am well aware that Red Steel isn't the best FPS around, even still, I had a BLAST playing it. Why? Because of the control scheme. Take your avg. FPS with a control pad and i would have never wanted to play deep into the game.

It seems that the people who are writing this off as some novelty device haven't really sat down and played with thing and seen what it is going to be capable of in very little time.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']
It seems that the people who are writing this off as some novelty device haven't really sat down and played with thing.[/quote]

Nah, its just not FOR everyone. Its not going to connect to everyone. Thats just the way it is.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Nah, its just not FOR everyone. Its not going to connect to everyone. Thats just the way it is.[/quote]

Oh come on. NOTHING connects with everyone. Is it going to connect with a large percentage. I would be willing to bet on it.
 
I agree, but I understand the grievances that people have with the machine.

I think it will have a very broad appeal, perhaps the most ever for a gaming machine.
 
The PS3 is suffering from the same problem the 360 did. When you have a product that is absolutely impossible to find (not "hard to find" or "requires effort"), people just give up on it for a while. It will start to be another big item around March or whenever plentiful supply ships, but even then, you'll have consoles sitting out on the shelves that would have sold if they had been there months earlier. Two months after launch, there aren't too many people who are still hyped up enough to wait in line for the next shipment.

It will be very interesting to see the month-to-month comparisons during Q1.
 
[quote name='Strell']The Wii gets mentioned on the Colbert Report, South Park, and in a Cathy comic strip.

It is getting universal praise from just about every major publication and news source out there.

To suggest it is only fanboys buying this is stupid. Do you hear me? You are stupid if you think that. Really stupid. Like "I wonder how you get your pants on in the morning" stupid, as well as managed to continue breathing while you are asleep.

It's no different than when the DS came out 2 years ago - it had barely any worthwhile apps at all outside of Mario 64 DS and Feel the Magic (both of which were only termed killer apps based on comparing them to the other crap that was out at the time), but it still sold out at launch.[/QUOTE]

The Wii is the next big thing. There isn't even a Mario/Pokemon/Brain Age/ Nintendogs game for it and it's selling out like crazy. The Pack in game is what is selling it. People at my work love it and want to get one based on me bringing it in.

Wait till the "real" games for it start comming out. We all know Zelda is a NGC port.

People can't even find controllers for the damn thing. That should tell you how much people want it.
 
well My walmart was supposedly to get some Wiis in this thurs at 8am when I got there 1 hour later they said it was sold out in mins! With the fact that there was people lining up outside..
 
[quote name='ZForce']I was hanging around EB yesterday and in the couple hours I was there, there were over 20 calls or people stopping in about Wii's and maybe two guys who came in looking for a PS3. The funny thing is the first person who asked about PS3... actually got one! (They had gotten in a shipment of four 60 giggers)[/quote]

I've been hanging around the local EB most days that I can during the UPS shipment window.

There are some moms, trying to score a Christmas present. There are some gamers, who obviously want the Wiis themselves. Today more of the former. Last week, there were more gamers. Today there were at least 3 gamers (including myself), possibly 4.

Virtually everyone is waiting for a Wii. Only about a quarter of the people will say they're waiting for either. I thought it was hilarious today -- a mom was saying "Well, I'll take a PS3, but he really wants a Wii and that's what we really want to get him. But I'll settle for a PS3 if I have to." Today there were ten people waiting, only one who wanted a PS3 and not a Wii.

The phone rings every five to ten minutes. Most of the calls are for Wiis.

Controllers (all kinds) and Wii points sell out as quickly as they come in.
 
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