Nobody is saying there's anything wrong with having a shortage. I don't care. It's not an overreaction. It's just a fact. It's like you take it personally that Wii's are in short supply. If 30 million people want a Wii the shortage is over when everyone can get one. It's that simple.
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When supply is able to satisfy demand. That's not happening now.
I've said this before, but I think Nintendo shouldn't ramp up anything. And they won't. From a business perspective, they're doing just fine.
I disagree. It's exactly like that. If you really wanted to find a 360 during that time, they were available. You just had to work for it. That's exactly what you're saying about the Wii.
Zen, I hope your uncle is okay. You have a pretty thick skin, coming on here after being called some nasty things and staying calm. YOU WIN TEH INTERNETZ.
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[quote name='Starkraving']I disagree. It's exactly like that. If you really wanted to find a 360 during that time, they were available. You just had to work for it. That's exactly what you're saying about the Wii.[/quote]
Other than the first allotment of launch consoles and a second allotment in December, that was all there was to the initial 360 shipments. They were impossible to buy on retails shelves because they just weren't there at all.
Other than the first allotment of launch consoles and a second allotment in December, that was all there was to the initial 360 shipments. They were impossible to buy on retails shelves because they just weren't there at all.
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You're definitely jaded, Zen.
This "trickle-in" Wii business is pretty maddening. In some ways it's worse than the 360 launch, because at least then you knew you only had a chance in the secondary market.
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They were, you just weren't looking hard enough.
Maddening for some (myself included), but for those with more time on their hands, manageable. And remember, like Zen said, more coming this weekend at Best Buy. If I didn't have bills to pay, I'd say let's bust out the portable foldling chairs and get up at 3 AM! Amazing that this still has to be done almost ten months after launch.
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The Super Target @ Beach and Hodges here in Jacksonville, FL had 12 Wii's this morning.. Finally scored mine, picked up Super Paper Mario, Zelda and Wii play for the extra remote.
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[quote name='Zen Davis']I looked hard enough to buy three during the 2005 launch. [/QUOTE]
Damn, a whole year early.
[/QUOTE]Damn, a whole year early.
[quote name='Starkraving']Maddening for some (myself included), but for those with more time on their hands, manageable. And remember, like Zen said, more coming this weekend at Best Buy. If I didn't have bills to pay, I'd say let's bust out the portable foldling chairs and get up at 3 AM! Amazing that this still has to be done almost ten months after launch.[/QUOTE]
Controlled supply.
Controlled supply.
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[quote name='lanleague']Controlled supply.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the shortage is manufactured? Because its not.
Maybe if they werent selling so many, I'd believe it.
Are you suggesting that the shortage is manufactured? Because its not.
Maybe if they werent selling so many, I'd believe it.
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Are you suggesting that the shortage is manufactured? Because its not.
Maybe if they werent selling so many, I'd believe it.[/QUOTE]
I honestly believe that it is manufactured. There are no components that are groundbreaking of difficult to produce in the system (It's almost a Gamecube for crying out loud) and the scarcity is great for impulse purchases and good PR.
Maybe if they werent selling so many, I'd believe it.[/QUOTE]
I honestly believe that it is manufactured. There are no components that are groundbreaking of difficult to produce in the system (It's almost a Gamecube for crying out loud) and the scarcity is great for impulse purchases and good PR.
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Dont you think that if an artificial scarcity outside of the first launch Christmas actually had a benefit, it would've been tried sometime before now, in the entire history of gaming consoles? Theres a point when not taking potential marketshare when you could've begins to work against you.
Do you know how many they are selling every month? They're producing quite a few, but they're also selling them.
Even then, theres more to it than just a gamecube, but I dont think the people that believe that can be convinced otherwise.
Do you know how many they are selling every month? They're producing quite a few, but they're also selling them.
Even then, theres more to it than just a gamecube, but I dont think the people that believe that can be convinced otherwise.
[quote name='lanleague']I honestly believe that it is manufactured. There are no components that are groundbreaking of difficult to produce in the system (It's almost a Gamecube for crying out loud) and the scarcity is great for impulse purchases and good PR.[/quote]As has been stated before, this is simply high demand not controlled supply, unless of course you're suggesting that they could make 6 million a month and get them to stores. Which, sure they could if they upped enough money to get enough factories working on the stuff, but that wouldn't be a wise business move to have wearhouse full of expensive-to-make machines that won't be sold until the manufacturing price would be far lower.
If the Wii was selling ~100,000 or less a month in the US I'd believe that Nintendo was constricting supply just to keep the PR buzz. But as it stands as constantly the best-selling console world wide? Nintendo's just making as many as they can to keep up with the demand. It would not be fiscally wise to spend the money to meet a demand right now that won't be there in 6 months.
If the Wii was selling ~100,000 or less a month in the US I'd believe that Nintendo was constricting supply just to keep the PR buzz. But as it stands as constantly the best-selling console world wide? Nintendo's just making as many as they can to keep up with the demand. It would not be fiscally wise to spend the money to meet a demand right now that won't be there in 6 months.
[quote name='lanleague']The demand is shocking, though, as there isn't anything to play right now.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. I guess their goal of getting non-gamers and casual gamers into stuff like Wiisports etc. has worked, as their indeed isn't much for the serious gamer.
Only Zelda and SPM since launch have caught my fancy.
Indeed. I guess their goal of getting non-gamers and casual gamers into stuff like Wiisports etc. has worked, as their indeed isn't much for the serious gamer.
Only Zelda and SPM since launch have caught my fancy.
[quote name='dmaul1114']Indeed. I guess their goal of getting non-gamers and casual gamers into stuff like Wiisports etc. has worked, as their indeed isn't much for the serious gamer.
Only Zelda and SPM since launch have caught my fancy.[/QUOTE]
This fall will be one of the most impressive moments in videogame history.
Nintendo, back on top for the first time since the Super Nintendo, will have The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Battalion Wars ii, and Super Smash Bros. on the Wii.
That's pretty impressive for a first year lineup. I do hope they've outsold the 360 by Christmas, though, with Halo 3 it's not going to be easy.
Only Zelda and SPM since launch have caught my fancy.[/QUOTE]
This fall will be one of the most impressive moments in videogame history.
Nintendo, back on top for the first time since the Super Nintendo, will have The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Battalion Wars ii, and Super Smash Bros. on the Wii.
That's pretty impressive for a first year lineup. I do hope they've outsold the 360 by Christmas, though, with Halo 3 it's not going to be easy.
Yep, the Aug-Dec period will be great for 1st party Nintendo games. That's the only reason I don't totally regret picking up a Wii at launch.
I don't have to hassle with finding one this fall (and I only waited in line about 25 minutes to preorder mine at Gamestop last fall).
Though I am worried about what the game lineup will look like after that, as that will have been pretty much all the first party series I still care about, and we know how long Nintendo takes with sequels to their main franchises. Hopefully 3rd parties will step up in 2008.
I don't have to hassle with finding one this fall (and I only waited in line about 25 minutes to preorder mine at Gamestop last fall).
Though I am worried about what the game lineup will look like after that, as that will have been pretty much all the first party series I still care about, and we know how long Nintendo takes with sequels to their main franchises. Hopefully 3rd parties will step up in 2008.
I'm really still shocked that all 3 big guns are hitting this year. I thought for sure Galaxy or SSBB would be pushed back to 2008 sometime.
Nintendo seems to be almost using their franchises to their 3rd parties' advantages this go-round. They'll cover the holiday season and get even more systems out there giving 3rd parties time to work on and polish their games so that maybe they can bring something worthwhile to the table in winter/spring/summer that won't get overshadowed by Nintendo's own offerings. I've alos interested to see what kind of ideas show up on WiiWare.
Nintendo seems to be almost using their franchises to their 3rd parties' advantages this go-round. They'll cover the holiday season and get even more systems out there giving 3rd parties time to work on and polish their games so that maybe they can bring something worthwhile to the table in winter/spring/summer that won't get overshadowed by Nintendo's own offerings. I've alos interested to see what kind of ideas show up on WiiWare.
[quote name='lanleague']I'm mostly interested to see if Wii Fit can carry the Wii in 2008 like Wii Sports has carried it in 2007.[/quote]Wii Fit is pretty ingeious. Wii Sports kinda hit the folks that had played games before but not recently, or who were into competitive non-video games, etc. WiiFit's gonna hit that late-night-infomerical-watching crowd.
I think they'd be silly to not at least offer an SKU of the hardware + Wii Fit & balance board, evne if it doesn't totally replace the Wii Sports pack. We'll see what happens.
I think they'd be silly to not at least offer an SKU of the hardware + Wii Fit & balance board, evne if it doesn't totally replace the Wii Sports pack. We'll see what happens.
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[quote name='lanleague']I honestly believe that it is manufactured. There are no components that are groundbreaking of difficult to produce in the system (It's almost a Gamecube for crying out loud) and the scarcity is great for impulse purchases and good PR.[/QUOTE]
But surely the components are not the bottleneck - it is the assembly/packaging of the system itself. There is finite capacity there and Nintendo is treading a fine line between producing enough to meet demand and not being stuck with expensive overcapacity if the demand slackens. Probably, had they known it would remain so high for so long it might have been worth increasing the capacity early on. But I'm sure even Nintendo couldn't have guessed at the success of the Wii.
While I'm sure they'd like them to be a little more available for purchase (and thus marketshare) they aren't doing too badly. As others have pointed out, they are regularly available, if not readily available (and yes, it is a shortage no matter how you look at it). But they aren't flat out impossible to get either. All-in-all I'd say Nintendo has handled it fairly well. We'll see how that holds up if (more like when) there is an increased demand around Christmas. They may regret not increasing production even more this holiday season.
And the flood of great titles after the very short dought begins this very Monday - Mario Strikers Charged, baby!
But surely the components are not the bottleneck - it is the assembly/packaging of the system itself. There is finite capacity there and Nintendo is treading a fine line between producing enough to meet demand and not being stuck with expensive overcapacity if the demand slackens. Probably, had they known it would remain so high for so long it might have been worth increasing the capacity early on. But I'm sure even Nintendo couldn't have guessed at the success of the Wii.
While I'm sure they'd like them to be a little more available for purchase (and thus marketshare) they aren't doing too badly. As others have pointed out, they are regularly available, if not readily available (and yes, it is a shortage no matter how you look at it). But they aren't flat out impossible to get either. All-in-all I'd say Nintendo has handled it fairly well. We'll see how that holds up if (more like when) there is an increased demand around Christmas. They may regret not increasing production even more this holiday season.
And the flood of great titles after the very short dought begins this very Monday - Mario Strikers Charged, baby!
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And the flood of great titles after the very short dought begins this very Monday - Mario Strikers Charged, baby![/QUOTE]
Not short for me. Beat Zelda, gathered dust until SPM (which I bought but didn't get aroudn to starting until July), and Metroid will be the next drought ender for me as I hate Mario Sports games.
And the flood of great titles after the very short dought begins this very Monday - Mario Strikers Charged, baby![/QUOTE]
Not short for me. Beat Zelda, gathered dust until SPM (which I bought but didn't get aroudn to starting until July), and Metroid will be the next drought ender for me as I hate Mario Sports games.
[quote name='dmaul1114']Not short for me. Beat Zelda, gathered dust until SPM (which I bought but didn't get aroudn to starting until July), and Metroid will be the next drought ender for me as I hate Mario Sports games.[/QUOTE]
That's fine, but as far as I'm concerned there hasn't been a single (non-XBLA) 360 game worth buying yet released this year (at least not at full price, there are a few I'll get at $30 or less) - and the 360, of course, is what people compare the Wii to in terms of a robust library. So, in my opinion, the Wii has it beat by a few (SPM, Sonic, BBA, Strikers). The 360 is good because it has a lot of decent budget games at this point (sub-$20 stuff from last year mostly), but it has been in a HUGE drought for new releases as far as I'm concerned. It turns around right at the same time the Wii does, so it will be a busy Fall.
It's kind of funny, I treat my 360 like a budget system and the Wii as a premiere AAA game player.
That's fine, but as far as I'm concerned there hasn't been a single (non-XBLA) 360 game worth buying yet released this year (at least not at full price, there are a few I'll get at $30 or less) - and the 360, of course, is what people compare the Wii to in terms of a robust library. So, in my opinion, the Wii has it beat by a few (SPM, Sonic, BBA, Strikers). The 360 is good because it has a lot of decent budget games at this point (sub-$20 stuff from last year mostly), but it has been in a HUGE drought for new releases as far as I'm concerned. It turns around right at the same time the Wii does, so it will be a busy Fall
.It's kind of funny, I treat my 360 like a budget system and the Wii as a premiere AAA game player
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Strange, I just purchased a Wii on Sunday and the only thing I can see buying right now is Zelda, maybe Mario Party 8.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
Now on my 360, I've purchased Forza 2 and plan to purchase
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
Half Life 2
GTA4
Call of Duty 4
I really think the 360 library is still the best of any system and the new games coming out are ahead of everyone else as well.
Both systems are awesome in my opinion which is why I own both. The question is what is going to convince me to purchase a PS3?
The shortage isn't over yet, but it won't be long. I picked up my Wii on Sunday at 15 till noon. I was suprised that they still had 5 of the 12 systems left and they even had a guy right at the entrance selling all Wii stuff trying to push the systems out the door as quick as possible.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
Now on my 360, I've purchased Forza 2 and plan to purchase
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
Half Life 2
GTA4
Call of Duty 4
I really think the 360 library is still the best of any system and the new games coming out are ahead of everyone else as well.
Both systems are awesome in my opinion which is why I own both. The question is what is going to convince me to purchase a PS3?
The shortage isn't over yet, but it won't be long. I picked up my Wii on Sunday at 15 till noon. I was suprised that they still had 5 of the 12 systems left and they even had a guy right at the entrance selling all Wii stuff trying to push the systems out the door as quick as possible.
Agreed, 360 has more out (of course it's had an extra year) and more coming that interests me than the Wii or PS3. But that's just a matter of what you like, and I can see how people like io like the wii games more.
Shocking to me, as the X-box was my least played console last gen. Bought it after a price drop and primarily for Knights of the Old Republic, and aside from the Halo games and multiplatform ports (which were played on it as they had the best graphics) it largely gathered dust after that game.
Now here it is not quite 2 years into next gen and the 360 lineup has me salivating and the Wii lineup has bored me thus far. Though I can't wait for Mario Galaxy.
Oh well, I'd hoped the Wii could be my only console given that I game less now than in the past, but that didn't pan out.
Hopefully the rumor CheapyD posted about the $50 360 price drop just clearing stock for the new Falcon model with the new chips etc. to launch at $300 for the premium in Oct/Nov pans out.
Shocking to me, as the X-box was my least played console last gen. Bought it after a price drop and primarily for Knights of the Old Republic, and aside from the Halo games and multiplatform ports (which were played on it as they had the best graphics) it largely gathered dust after that game.
Now here it is not quite 2 years into next gen and the 360 lineup has me salivating and the Wii lineup has bored me thus far. Though I can't wait for Mario Galaxy.
Oh well, I'd hoped the Wii could be my only console given that I game less now than in the past, but that didn't pan out.
Hopefully the rumor CheapyD posted about the $50 360 price drop just clearing stock for the new Falcon model with the new chips etc. to launch at $300 for the premium in Oct/Nov pans out.
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[quote name='Indiana']Strange, I just purchased a Wii on Sunday and the only thing I can see buying right now is Zelda, maybe Mario Party 8.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
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You owe it to yourself to pick up Godfather for the Wii. Great game.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
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You owe it to yourself to pick up Godfather for the Wii. Great game.
[quote name='CocheseUGA']You owe it to yourself to pick up Godfather for the Wii. Great game.[/quote]I keep waiting for that sucker to drop in price. Of course, it's almost too late now. As io said, Strikers kicks off an insane late summer / fall / winter for Wii/DS/360 releases that I'll have neither money nor time to get fully through until about mid-08.
[quote name='daroga']I keep waiting for that sucker to drop in price. Of course, it's almost too late now. As io said, Strikers kicks off an insane late summer / fall / winter for Wii/DS/360 releases that I'll have neither money nor time to get fully through until about mid-08.[/quote]Not to mention there's now talk of Godfather 2, which sure as hell better be on Wii as well.
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Keep in mind it's a good 20+ hours of gameplay. Worth the MSRP.
True, the graphics aren't as great as the other platforms, but the Blackhand controls are worth it. Good story and voice acting too.
True, the graphics aren't as great as the other platforms, but the Blackhand controls are worth it. Good story and voice acting too.
[quote name='Indiana']Strange, I just purchased a Wii on Sunday and the only thing I can see buying right now is Zelda, maybe Mario Party 8.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
Now on my 360, I've purchased Forza 2 and plan to purchase
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
Half Life 2
GTA4
Call of Duty 4
I really think the 360 library is still the best of any system and the new games coming out are ahead of everyone else as well.
Both systems are awesome in my opinion which is why I own both. The question is what is going to convince me to purchase a PS3?
The shortage isn't over yet, but it won't be long. I picked up my Wii on Sunday at 15 till noon. I was suprised that they still had 5 of the 12 systems left and they even had a guy right at the entrance selling all Wii stuff trying to push the systems out the door as quick as possible.[/QUOTE]
FPS after FPS after FPS. Not my kind of gaming system.
I will probably pick up Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 if they both come out this year. I hope 3rd party developers start doing something with the Wii because it's looking to me like the Wii will be mostly nintendo franchises only and the 360 has the 3rd party developers pumping out games.
Now on my 360, I've purchased Forza 2 and plan to purchase
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
Half Life 2
GTA4
Call of Duty 4
I really think the 360 library is still the best of any system and the new games coming out are ahead of everyone else as well.
Both systems are awesome in my opinion which is why I own both. The question is what is going to convince me to purchase a PS3?
The shortage isn't over yet, but it won't be long. I picked up my Wii on Sunday at 15 till noon. I was suprised that they still had 5 of the 12 systems left and they even had a guy right at the entrance selling all Wii stuff trying to push the systems out the door as quick as possible.[/QUOTE]
FPS after FPS after FPS. Not my kind of gaming system.
[quote name='lanleague']FPS after FPS after FPS. Not my kind of gaming system.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, which is why I keep saying if you like FPS's the 360 has hands down the best lineup this Fall. If not, it is not so clear despite what Cheapy (and many others on CAG) say. Sure, if you go by what will probably be a sheer number of highly-reviewed games, the 360 wins. There are plenty of other (non-FPS, non-Mature) games on the 360 I'm looking forward to, though: Beautiful Katamari, the Simpsons game (will go for the 360 version for purty grafx), Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and many others. Enough to keep me busy without a single one of the those from Indiana's list. I *might* pick up Mass Effect if it gets stunning reviews. I can get past the real-time FPS aspects if the story is amazing and it is otherwise an excellent game, but to me that control/gameplay scheme is a negative.
Agreed, which is why I keep saying if you like FPS's the 360 has hands down the best lineup this Fall. If not, it is not so clear despite what Cheapy (and many others on CAG) say. Sure, if you go by what will probably be a sheer number of highly-reviewed games, the 360 wins. There are plenty of other (non-FPS, non-Mature) games on the 360 I'm looking forward to, though: Beautiful Katamari, the Simpsons game (will go for the 360 version for purty grafx), Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and many others. Enough to keep me busy without a single one of the those from Indiana's list
. I *might* pick up Mass Effect if it gets stunning reviews. I can get past the real-time FPS aspects if the story is amazing and it is otherwise an excellent game, but to me that control/gameplay scheme is a negative.
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hey now, dont forget 3rd person shooters, racer shooters, rpg shooters, and action/platformer shooters
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']hey now, dont forget 3rd person shooters, racer shooters, rpg shooters, and action/platformer shooters[/QUOTE]
Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting
Guitar Hero III - Music
Sure, there is a bunch of shooters, but I don't see how anyone can even compare to MS's line up.
Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting
Guitar Hero III - Music
Sure, there is a bunch of shooters, but I don't see how anyone can even compare to MS's line up.
[quote name='zewone']Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting
Guitar Hero III - Music
Sure, there is a bunch of shooters, but I don't see how anyone can even compare to MS's line up.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting Zack & Wiki which is a totally new type of game and is pretty exciting. Also, why isn't Guitar Hero II on Wii mentioned? I wouldn't really call GTA4 an adevnture game, and you're forgetting Battalion Wars II for the Wii.
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting
Guitar Hero III - Music
Sure, there is a bunch of shooters, but I don't see how anyone can even compare to MS's line up.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting Zack & Wiki which is a totally new type of game and is pretty exciting. Also, why isn't Guitar Hero II on Wii mentioned? I wouldn't really call GTA4 an adevnture game, and you're forgetting Battalion Wars II for the Wii.
[quote name='lanleague']You're forgetting Zack & Wiki which is a totally new type of game and is pretty exciting. Also, why isn't Guitar Hero II on Wii mentioned? I wouldn't really call GTA4 an adevnture game, and you're forgetting Battalion Wars II for the Wii.[/quote]You clearly can't have a biased list of games if you include all the games for the other system. I'm fairly certain the 360 will still have a larger list, but here's what zewone should have included:
[quote name='zewone']Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Battalion Wars II - 3rd Person Shooter
Fire Emblem - SRPG
NiGHTS - no clue
Boogie - Music
Dewy's Adventure - Platformer
Zack & Wiki - Adventure
Rayman 2 - Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting[/quote]
I'm sure a few from both lists will end up being stinkers, and some that aren't on there will end up being awesome. Is the 360's lineup better? Most people will say so, yeah, but it's hardly incomparable.
[quote name='zewone']Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:Awesome Wii games remainder 2007:
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party
Battalion Wars II - 3rd Person Shooter
Fire Emblem - SRPG
NiGHTS - no clue
Boogie - Music
Dewy's Adventure - Platformer
Zack & Wiki - Adventure
Rayman 2 - Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting[/quote]
I'm sure a few from both lists will end up being stinkers, and some that aren't on there will end up being awesome. Is the 360's lineup better? Most people will say so, yeah, but it's hardly incomparable.
elwood731
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The problem with the Wii lineup is that not many of the titles are wowing people, with the exceptions of SSBM, Metroid, and Mario Galaxy. The 360 has many more "wow" worthy games, based on graphics alone. Now, this has almost always been the way gamers recognized the hot titles of the year. Recall that even the Mario games have usually been visual wonders for their time. Now, Nintendo is trying to wow people with game play, which obviously requires a shift in the way the public thinks. The 360 and PS3 continue to grab more headlines than Wii, but the Wii continues to sell, showing they're doing something right. It will be interesting to see what the actual software sales look like after Christmas, and how much actual software Nintendo can manage to move.
I don't know if it's a good predictor or not, but I've noticed that Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy have been in the top 10 of Amazon.com software sales for nearly 2 weeks now - I'm thinking that maybe they were just made available for pre-order. Metroid Prime 3 has been in the top 25.
Halo 3 will obviously be huge, but I have my doubts about Mass Effect sales-wise. Outside of Final Fantasy and the X-man Legends/Marvel games, RPGs are not usually huge sellers. KOTOR 1 sold very well, but that's as much due to the license as the quality of the underlying game.
Halo 3 will obviously be huge, but I have my doubts about Mass Effect sales-wise. Outside of Final Fantasy and the X-man Legends/Marvel games, RPGs are not usually huge sellers. KOTOR 1 sold very well, but that's as much due to the license as the quality of the underlying game.
[quote name='elwood731']The problem with the Wii lineup is that not many of the titles are wowing people, with the exceptions of SSBM, Metroid, and Mario Galaxy. The 360 has many more "wow" worthy games, based on graphics alone. Now, this has almost always been the way gamers recognized the hot titles of the year. Recall that even the Mario games have usually been visual wonders for their time. Now, Nintendo is trying to wow people with game play, which obviously requires a shift in the way the public thinks. The 360 and PS3 continue to grab more headlines than Wii, but the Wii continues to sell, showing they're doing something right. It will be interesting to see what the actual software sales look like after Christmas, and how much actual software Nintendo can manage to move.[/quote]I definitely agree. There are plenty of games on the 360 list where I say "wow." But then I have no interest in playing them, and they may or may not end up being good all-around games. Then there are games on the Wii I listed where I say "..." but they look like they might be fun - and they may or may not be.
360 has a few more games likely to be highly rated coming, but the real key on the individual level is how many interest you personally. From the more complete list botticus posted, here are where games stand for me.
Must buys are bolded, games I'm waiting for reviews on in italics, no interest in a strike throughed.
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party--actually, online play is the key for this one for me
Battalion Wars II - 3rd Person Shooter
Fire Emblem - SRPG
NiGHTS - no clue
Boogie - Music
Dewy's Adventure - Platformer
Zack & Wiki - Adventure
Rayman 2 - Party
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
Grand Theft Auto 4 - Action/Adventure
Rock Band - Music
Virtua Fighter 5 - Fighting
So for me it comes to:
Wii: 2 must buys and 3 I'll wait for reviews on.
360: 4 must buys and 4 wait for reviews on.
Naturally I only have a Wii right now. Oh well, hopefully the rumored Falcon 360 launches this fall (and the 2nd drop to $300 for it posted by CheapyD is right as well).
Only multiplatform title I'm interested in is Guitar Hero 3, and I'll get that for the PS2 since I already have 2 controllers.
Must buys are bolded, games I'm waiting for reviews on in italics, no interest in a strike throughed.
Metroid Prime 3 - FPS
Mario Galaxy - Platformer
SSMB - Fighting/Party--actually, online play is the key for this one for me
NiGHTS - no clue
Zack & Wiki - Adventure
Awesome 360 games remainder 2007 :
Bioshock - FPS/RPG
Mass Effect - RPG
Halo 3 - FPS
Assassin's Creed - Action/Adventure
Orange Box - FPS
Blue Dragon - RPG
Army of Two - 3rd Person Shooter
Eternal Sonata - RPG
Beautiful Katamari - Ball Rolling Simulator
Call of Duty 4 -FPS
So for me it comes to:
Wii: 2 must buys and 3 I'll wait for reviews on.
360: 4 must buys and 4 wait for reviews on.
Naturally I only have a Wii right now.
Oh well, hopefully the rumored Falcon 360 launches this fall (and the 2nd drop to $300 for it posted by CheapyD is right as well).Only multiplatform title I'm interested in is Guitar Hero 3, and I'll get that for the PS2 since I already have 2 controllers.
[quote name='botticus']I definitely agree. There are plenty of games on the 360 list where I say "wow." But then I have no interest in playing them, and they may or may not end up being good all-around games.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Alot of the 360/PS3 games have the graphics wow factor and I'm tempted to get a 360/PS3 for them. On the other hand I know alot of those games are mirages. They look great, but won't be that fun to play.
Exactly. Alot of the 360/PS3 games have the graphics wow factor and I'm tempted to get a 360/PS3 for them. On the other hand I know alot of those games are mirages. They look great, but won't be that fun to play.
[quote name='trip1eX']Exactly. Alot of the 360/PS3 games have the graphics wow factor and I'm tempted to get a 360/PS3 for them. On the other hand I know alot of those games are mirages. They look great, but won't be that fun to play.[/QUOTE]
But of course many look amazing and will play just as well. Gears of War being a great example. Best looking game I've played, and probably my favorite game of this generation so far.
Halo 3, Bioshock and Mass Effect all look to play great and have stupid good graphics as well.
It's that way on every system. Some games look good and play great, some look good and play like crap, and some look like crap but play well, and the worst of the worst look like shit and play like shit.
The main thing is whether they play well or not, and my bolded list above is based on games I think I'll enjoy. Graphics are just the icing on the cake.
But of course many look amazing and will play just as well. Gears of War being a great example. Best looking game I've played, and probably my favorite game of this generation so far.
Halo 3, Bioshock and Mass Effect all look to play great and have stupid good graphics as well.
It's that way on every system. Some games look good and play great, some look good and play like crap, and some look like crap but play well, and the worst of the worst look like shit and play like shit.
The main thing is whether they play well or not, and my bolded list above is based on games I think I'll enjoy. Graphics are just the icing on the cake.
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