Wii Zapper - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='lilboo']Who knew there was another Zelda game being made..??
Man, I wanted this Zapper for when Umbrella Chronicles came out!

This is what I want to know: Will it be "Zelda Cross Bow Training WITH Wii Zapper!" OR will it be "Wii Zapper with Zelda Cross Bow Training!"

Because the title of that can determine the price :(
If it's the Wii Zapper, and they ad a bonus pack of this Zelda CT..it can still be $20. But a game w/ an accessory..can be $50..or even $60 (thanks, Boogie..)[/quote]It'll be $20, the game is a pack-in with the accessory.

I will one day understand the logic of pairing a crossbow game with a gun shell. Unless they're attempting to get people to think outside the box beyond the obvious gun uses.
 
[quote name='botticus']It'll be $20, the game is a pack-in with the accessory.

I will one day understand the logic of pairing a crossbow game with a gun shell. Unless they're attempting to get people to think outside the box beyond the obvious gun uses.[/QUOTE]

Ok, nice! $20 for a shell + game is good times.
I too thought it was kind of weird..Zelda Cross Bow game with a Tommy Gun?! This would be a perfect accessory for RE:UC, IMO. Most videos I've seen of the game, seemed to show off this accessory.

I'll accept a Zelda game. I guess a Zelda mini-game is something new & refreshing! Either way, I'm still getting it :)
 
[quote name='lilboo']Ok, nice! $20 for a shell + game is good times.
I too thought it was kind of weird..Zelda Cross Bow game with a Tommy Gun?! This would be a perfect accessory for RE:UC, IMO. Most videos I've seen of the game, seemed to show off this accessory.

I'll accept a Zelda game. I guess a Zelda mini-game is something new & refreshing! Either way, I'm still getting it :)[/quote]Japan, at least, is getting a UC/zapper bundle, not sure if that is the case in the US as well (if it is, it'll be $50 game plus $20 zapper).
 
Maybe Link ends up meetin Buffy and they go slayin together?!

Side Note: A Buffy the Vampire Slayer on rails crossbow game is making me mad because it'll never happen now.
 
[quote name='Callandor']The Great Fairy must have upgraded his bow.[/quote]

The Great Fairy is a GUY!? SPOILERZ!!!:roll:

Sorry, couldn't help myself there.
 
I would have guessed that the pack in game was going to be a Duck Hunt remake, not some Zelda Crossbow game.
[quote name='lilboo']Maybe Link ends up meetin Buffy and they go slayin together?!

Side Note: A Buffy the Vampire Slayer on rails crossbow game is making me mad because it'll never happen now.[/quote]
I wish that Fox would make a Buffy game for the Wii, where we could use the Wiimote as a steak to kill vampires (combat could just be button presses for all I care). If the vampire is standing up when you steak him you have to thrust the Wiimote forward, if he's on the ground you have to thrust it towards the ground.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']
I wish that Fox would make a Buffy game for the Wii, where we could use the Wiimote as a steak to kill vampires (combat could just be button presses for all I care). If the vampire is standing up when you steak him you have to thrust the Wiimote forward, if he's on the ground you have to thrust it towards the ground.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree, however, I'd rather use this:
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I say this, because I don't know how much damage

steak.jpg


this would do? :whistle2:k

:rofl: Simple mistake, but i thought it was funny! But seriously, a Buffy game for the Wii = NEEDS. Even if they ported the original xbox version over..just gave it some wii remote action and it could still be good, as that game was pretty solid anyway!
 
[quote name='lilboo']I completely agree, however, I'd rather use this:


I say this, because I don't know how much damage

steak.jpg


this would do? :whistle2:k

:rofl: Simple mistake, but i thought it was funny! But seriously, a Buffy game for the Wii = NEEDS. Even if they ported the original xbox version over..just gave it some wii remote action and it could still be good, as that game was pretty solid anyway![/quote]

What if that delicious, juicy steak was marinated in garlic sauce?
 
[quote name='lebowsky']What if that delicious, juicy steak was marinated in garlic sauce?[/QUOTE]

Then you have just proven me wrong! :applause:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Garlic Steak Edition
 
[quote name='lilboo']I completely agree, however, I'd rather use this:
PM75010.jpg


I say this, because I don't know how much damage

steak.jpg


this would do? :whistle2:k

:rofl: Simple mistake, but i thought it was funny! But seriously, a Buffy game for the Wii = NEEDS. Even if they ported the original xbox version over..just gave it some wii remote action and it could still be good, as that game was pretty solid anyway![/quote] :D Well a bloody steak might be a good way to distract vampires.
 
[quote name='botticus']I will one day understand the logic of pairing a crossbow game with a gun shell. Unless they're attempting to get people to think outside the box beyond the obvious gun uses.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Duck Hunt will come with the crossbow shell or bow and arrow attachment?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']The Great Fairy is a GUY!? SPOILERZ!!!:roll:

Sorry, couldn't help myself there.[/QUOTE]

By "his," I meant Link's.

Fail for you for being stupid, and fail for me for not being clear.
 
It's been confirmed. 11/19 for $19.99
This is nice! I'll def be picking up 2, and probably selling one of the games since I plan on using both Zappers for co-op in RE:UC
 
The only reason I can see why Nintendo did this was because they had this game or demo sitting around somewhere and decided to throw it in with the zapper to save time/money.

In any case I don't really care because I'm not buying the zapper for this game. It's just a nice bonus if it's good.
 
$20 isn't too bad of a price considering it'll come with a game. This whole zapper bundled with a Zelda game is still one giant wth to me (when does Link use a crossbow?!), but I'll probably end getting it. I hope it'll work with RE4.
 
Thank ya kindly GAF.

BOX ART:
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INFO:

Link's Crossbow Training™
Format: Wii™
Launch Date: 11/19/07
ESRB: T (Teen): Fantasy Violence
Game Type: Shooting
Accessories: Wii Zapper™ – included (requires Wii Remote™ and Nunchuk™)
Players: 1-4 (turn-based)
Developer: EAD
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KEY INFORMATION
Link returns from The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess to pick up the Wii Zapper and take aim at a host of targets in this shooting-gallery-style game.

* Anyone can pick up the Wii Zapper and become a master marksman in the quick-play shooting galleries of Link's Crossbow Training. Dozens of fast-paced stages offer a wide variety of game play, from shooting stationary targets to defending a supply wagon from onrushing hordes of enemies. Multiplayer modes let players and their friends share a Wii Zapper to shoot for the high score.

* Link's Crossbow Training comes bundled with the Wii Zapper. After a few rounds of Link's Crossbow Training, players will be more than ready to pick up any of the future Wii Zapper titles, like Medal of Honor Heroes™ 2, Ghost Squad™ and Resident Evil®: The Umbrella Chronicles.

Using the Wii Zapper: The Wii Zapper requires the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, housing both in a comfortable and intuitive frame. The control stick on the Nunchuk controls player movement (on stages that allow player movement), while simply aiming the Wii Zapper moves the targeting reticule on the screen. Pulling the trigger fires Link's crossbow. By aiming off screen, players can turn Link to face in a new direction (again, on stages that allow this).

Link's Crossbow Training contains three basic game styles: target shooting, defender and ranger. There are 27 stages in total, and these categories represent only generally how each individual stage operates. Each stage's goal is to earn the highest score possible within the time limit. All rounds can be played with multiple players: Players pass the Wii Zapper around and then play one at a time and compete for the high score.

Target Shooting: In target-shooting rounds, players shoot bull's-eyes as they pop up on the screen. In early stages, targets are stationary. As the game difficulty increases in later levels, the targets move. Hitting the center of the bull's-eye nets more points, and hitting targets in succession without missing earns combo multipliers. Link can aim anywhere on the screen.

Defender: In defender rounds, players remain stationary but can look and aim in all directions - sometimes even in a full 360 degrees - by aiming off screen. Hordes of enemies assault Link, and he must fight them off. These battles have a great deal of variety, from fighting off skeletons in a desert to defending a wagon from boar-riding Bokoblins.

Ranger: In ranger rounds, players can move throughout the level using the control stick and aim anywhere they want by aiming the Wii Zapper wherever they want to look. In these missions, Link storms enemy encampments, fights his way through a forest and seeks out his foes while exploring the environments.
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Sounds like a worthwhile pack-in.

Probably gonna go ahead and get it at this point since RE: UC is seemingly shaping up decently. Good suggestions for Christmas gifts.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I hope it comes in an actual case and isn't sleeved like Wii sports.[/quote]99% sure it won't.

I'll be getting this.
Didn't want the zapper but I want the cheap game.
 
[quote name='dallow']99% sure it won't.

I'll be getting this.
Didn't want the zapper but I want the cheap game.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure you're more likely to find people punting off the game on Ebay than the Zapper.
 
[quote name='clockworkgreen']I'm sure you're more likely to find people punting off the game on Ebay than the Zapper.[/quote]Yeah, but for $20, might as well get the free Zapper that comes with the game. ;)
 
Game looks stupid, Zapper doesn't interest me, but together and with the future release of UC I have to buy this. Looks like Nintendo got me again.
 
I have to say, it sounds interesting. I think I'll be getting the Zapper FOR the Link game. I have no interest in the other announced Zapper games so far, but I'm sure it will have some use down the line (but then again, this is Nintendo, so who knows - I'm looking at you bongos!). Anyway, even though I know the Zapper is a cheap plastic thing I'm glad this is only $20. I think they could have pushed $30 for this easily. In fact, at that price, I better see if I can preorder this sucker at Gamecrazy. It might be hard to get leading up to Christmas.
 
[quote name='io']I have to say, it sounds interesting. I think I'll be getting the Zapper FOR the Link game. I have no interest in the other announced Zapper games so far, but I'm sure it will have some use down the line (but then again, this is Nintendo, so who knows - I'm looking at you bongos!). Anyway, even though I know the Zapper is a cheap plastic thing I'm glad this is only $20. I think they could have pushed $30 for this easily. In fact, at that price, I better see if I can preorder this sucker at Gamecrazy. It might be hard to get leading up to Christmas.[/quote]To be fair, there are already as many games using the zapper (before it's even released) than there were for the bongo - RE: UC, Ghost Squad, MoH.
 
[quote name='botticus']To be fair, there are already as many games using the zapper (before it's even released) than there were for the bongo - RE: UC, Ghost Squad, MoH.[/quote]Technically, just about every game can use the Zapper.
 
[quote name='dallow']Technically, just about every game can use the Zapper.[/quote]Technically, yes. But three are designed with it in mind. I can only imagine sitting on the couch for 40 hours with the zapper playing Zelda. :lol:
 
I have yet to understand why so many people hate light gun games and hate the zapper. It's stupid. Thank God that it's just a plastic shell that only costs $20 instead of a whole new wiimote-gun hybrid that would cost me $50 and do the same thing.

And NO you don't need the zapper to play UC. In fact the game was designed for wiimote+nunchuk which is why its zapper support is so mediocre.

I will be buying up all of these light gun games and hoping that they make more.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I have yet to understand why so many people hate light gun games and hate the zapper. It's stupid. Thank God that it's just a plastic shell that only costs $20 instead of a whole new wiimote-gun hybrid that would cost me $50 and do the same thing.

And NO you don't need the zapper to play UC. In fact the game was designed for wiimote+nunchuk which is why its zapper support is so mediocre.

I will be buying up all of these light gun games and hoping that they make more.[/quote]I don't think you need the zapper to play any games. And I'm guessing UC at least has different control configurations available, because they're bundling the zapper with it in Japan.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I have yet to understand why so many people hate light gun games and hate the zapper. It's stupid. Thank God that it's just a plastic shell that only costs $20 instead of a whole new wiimote-gun hybrid that would cost me $50 and do the same thing.

And NO you don't need the zapper to play UC. In fact the game was designed for wiimote+nunchuk which is why its zapper support is so mediocre.

I will be buying up all of these light gun games and hoping that they make more.[/quote]Why do people hate light gun games?
Don't know.
Why are you a fanboy?
Don't know.
 
[quote name='botticus']I don't think you need the zapper to play any games. And I'm guessing UC at least has different control configurations available, because they're bundling the zapper with it in Japan.[/QUOTE]

That's the beauty of it. You can play it with the wiimote or if you want light gun action use the zapper. More options = good not bad.

And I don't think UC let's you configure the controls, but if it does then they need to majorly improve it by allowing us to set the C or Z button as the primary fire like Ghost Squad.
 
Okay, some additional Link's Crossbow Training from the latest NP:

The minigame collection showcases a range of ways to implement the Zapper, from simple target shooting to a full-fledged third-person action mode. In target shooting stages, you'll have to shoot bull's-eyes quickly and accurately - the more targets you hit, the quicker new targets will appear; the more targets you hit in a row, the more points you'll earn. In the third-person shooter levels, you control Link via the Control Stick; the camera will follow the targeting reticule when it gets near the edge of the screen.
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Glad to see a third-person demo is in there, will push it beyond simple light-gun implementations.
 
I can see some of the gripes.

I'm kind of interested in it, and will likely pick it up at some point since it's $20 and will be an ok pick up and play game packed in etc.

But I'd still like to see someone put an actual light gun out on the wii. Maybe Namco will bring over the guncon and some of those games at some point.

Aiming a cursor is fun, but true 1:1 light gun aiming is more fun IMO. But of coruse also more expensive.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I can see some of the gripes.

I'm kind of interested in it, and will likely pick it up at some point since it's $20 and will be an ok pick up and play game packed in etc.

But I'd still like to see someone put an actual light gun out on the wii. Maybe Namco will bring over the guncon and some of those games at some point.

Aiming a cursor is fun, but true 1:1 light gun aiming is more fun IMO. But of coruse also more expensive.[/quote]Don't true light guns have to be calibrated with HDTVs? In which case, it wouldn't be any different than using the Wiimote with calibration, and I don't think it'd be worth the exhorbitant cost of an additional peripheral for Namco or for us.
 
[quote name='botticus']Don't true light guns have to be calibrated with HDTVs? In which case, it wouldn't be any different than using the Wiimote with calibration, and I don't think it'd be worth the exhorbitant cost of an additional peripheral for Namco or for us.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure on that. But if so, you're right and that would sadly mean that true light gun games are dead. :(
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I'm not sure on that. But if so, you're right and that would sadly mean that true light gun games are dead. :([/quote]Yeah... If I'm wrong, then I definitely endorse true light guns. I won't pay the extra for them, but I know there are people who love 'em.
 
They are dead.

Even in arcades, newer light gun games on higher res screens have Wii-like sensors.
Not like the old days.

However the new Guncon has extra sensors that go on both sides of the screen.
Or three sensors, I forgot exactly.

Anyway, with those, it comes closer to 1:1.
 
My guess about the game selection is that nintendo needs to sell as many zappers as possible before they can get third-party support/take any serious dives themselves. The game is a good choice for this because:

1. The nonviolent shooting gallery style game appeals to the casual market
2. Link appeals to a lot of ninendo fans, especially younger kids

Furthermore, making the game non-violent means that they can eventually package the game with every system
 
Hi guys. I've had a Wii for a bit now and have looked briefly into the Wii Zapper. What are the advantages of it? Would it make a game like RE 4 a little easier in terms of pointing and shooting for someone who isn't used to the genre?

Any advice interms of the Zapper is appreciated!
 
I haven't used it, but it would not help RE4 in the least. Opinion that I've read is mixed - some like it, some feel it gets in the way. There are other, better looking gun shells, though. Wouldn't help you with RE4, but whatever...
 
The biggest advantage is that it comes with Link's Crossbow training which is a pretty fun little game. It's not super deep but is really fun, and I think worth the $20 itself.
 
Nyko's Perfect Shot is reputedly better in every way. That said, I've also heard that one should pick up the Zapper if only for Crossbow Training. Personally, I'll probably be getting both at some point, along with HotD 2+3 and maybe Ghost Squad. Damn, I need money...
 
It wouldn't be a good choice for a game like Resident Evil 4 but that's just my opinion. Most people prefer not to use the zapper since they say that it's more accurate to just use the Wiimote and nunchuck on their own. I kind of agree with them. The biggest advantage for getting the zapper is Link's Crossbow Training since it's a really fun (yet short) game.
 
The Zapper DOES take time to get use to for RE:TUC.

After you give it a chance and get the hang of it, it can be pretty effective. But the first time using it, it's gonna be frustrating and you will hate it.
 
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