Will the YANKEES make the PLAYOFFS?

[quote name='javeryh']And it makes me MENTAL that they are over .500 and in last place[/QUOTE]

:lol: While the fucking Padres are 2 games under .500 and in first place.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']the best rotation is the A's...and while i think they are greatly overachieving, the whitesox have got to be up top as well[/QUOTE]

Neither is best 1-5. 1-3 perhaps, but not 1-5.
 
yes schilling has had some spotty relief starts...but he had like 9 straight saves with fairly 1 2, 3 innings...I am not saying he will be the 21 - 6 pitcher of last year, but you can't just toss him aside..his problem in the pen has been some games throwing 5 pitches, and some games throwing 2 pitches, like most closers do...

foulke, should have had his left knee scoped in the offseason, the training staff recommended it to him, and he said no....he then wasn't landing hard on his left leg due to the sore knee...leaving more of the weight on the back leg, caused him to need another knee scope on the right knee this upcoming offseason..

we can always use hansen as our closer...many scouts/analyst said he could be an impact player at the end of the season for any team...he throws 97...good movement, a great hard slider, and a decent 12 - 6 curve/offspeed pitch...he could, not saying he will, but could be like krod was for the angels when they won...he signed with us end of july, blew threw single a, is in double a now, and in the 5 games, 0 era, 4 hits, and 8 or so K's

clement got TAGGED...come mid sept, he should be back at form that had him being one of the top pitchers in the AL for the first 1/2 of the season...before the all star break his era was 3.7 something...

we also have the best offense in the league, and as soon as orleud gets full time at 1b, fuck ing francona and his love of kevin millar...we will have a great 1 - 9 lineup....we can afford to have worse pitching then the yanks, as we score more...

giambi has to be on the juice...i figured he woudl be a .280 - .300 hitter with 20 or so homers...but he has gotten bigger since his stuggles early in the season...either he is on the juice, or he is back on his old mcdonalds diet (that was his original excuse for the loss in weight, he stopped eating at mcdonalds)

welcome to boston :)

I got 6 tix to the last series of the year vs the yanks on friday night...:)
 
[quote name='Rich']Neither is best 1-5. 1-3 perhaps, but not 1-5.[/QUOTE]


1-3 I'd say Astros--top three all have very low era with clemens of course just nuts.

1-5 I'd put my money on Cards,
 
[quote name='ryanbph']any team that has suppan as the #4 starter loses any credibilty as a top 1 - 5 rotation[/QUOTE]
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as a 4 starter 12-8 with a 4 era and 144 ip, I would take. Compare to other 4's out there I don't see a vast improvement.

Comparable to white sox--- Contraras, 7-7 144 ip 4.24 era.
 
we don't have a 1b that is being put in, that can hit...bellhorn was playing horrible before he got hurt....and clement is at 4.57
 
[quote name='Mr.Answer']1-3 I'd say Astros--top three all have very low era with clemens of course just nuts.

1-5 I'd put my money on Cards,[/QUOTE]


St. Louis pitchers are garbage. Always have been always will be. How many times do these clowns make the playoffs and choke? I can't wait for the Cubs to take the wild card and smoke their ass in the playoffs like they have done all season
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']St. Louis pitchers are garbage. Always have been always will be. How many times do these clowns make the playoffs and choke? I can't wait for the Cubs to take the wild card and smoke their ass in the playoffs like they have done all season[/QUOTE]

While the Cards may be garbage, the Cubs are one of the worst franchises in baseball.

And Marquis pinch hits. And does it well.
Ownage.

(he led the league in hitting in HS; he went to school down the block)
 
[quote name='Rich']While the Cards may be garbage, the Cubs are one of the worst franchises in baseball.

And Marquis pinch hits. And does it well.
Ownage.

(he led the league in hitting in HS; he went to school down the block)[/QUOTE]

yea but he don't call his shots like Zambrano
 
Alan Embree has finally started helping the Redsox this year.

Then again, Mike Remlinger gave up a grand slam the other night, to LOWER his ERA to 54.00.

I can't wait until Foulke comes off the DL and Craig Hansen gets called up. Thanks again Yankees, for not drafting him.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']yea but he don't call his shots like Zambrano[/QUOTE]

At least the Cardinals won 23 years ago. :lol:

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[quote name='dafoomie']Alan Embree has finally started helping the Redsox this year.

Then again, Mike Remlinger gave up a grand slam the other night, to LOWER his ERA to 54.00.

I can't wait until Foulke comes off the DL and Craig Hansen gets called up. Thanks again Yankees, for not drafting him.[/QUOTE]

I swear to god, Embree is god's version of revenge for Mendoza.

You guys still paying Embree? :bomb:
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']there is no comeback to that I can think of, but I agree about the rivalry:D[/QUOTE]

I never even knew it was a rivalry until I went to Missouri. It was like entering an anti-cubs twilight zone.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']St. Louis pitchers are garbage. Always have been always will be. How many times do these clowns make the playoffs and choke? I can't wait for the Cubs to take the wild card and smoke their ass in the playoffs like they have done all season[/QUOTE]

How about you at least wait for your team to get to .500 before talking shit that involves how they're gonna make the playoffs and beat the team with the best record in the league? And yes, the Cubs did win the last two series against the Cards - and they're STILL 17 games behind them. :lol:
 
[quote name='gambitmachete']How about you at least wait for your team to get to .500 before talking shit that involves how they're gonna make the playoffs and beat the team with the best record in the league? And yes, the Cubs did win the last two series against the Cards - and they're STILL 17 games behind them. :lol:[/QUOTE]

its not just the last two series, the Cubs have owned them all season. I think they are like 10-3 aganist them this season

and they are about to get above .500 as they are about to run off a real impressive win streak. D. Lee and Burnitz went cold and so they had no offense. Nomar is playing some awesome baseball though and is going to put the team on his back. They now have a solid pen with Wood out there.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']its not just the last two series, the Cubs have owned them all season. I think they are like 10-3 aganist them this season

and they are about to get above .500 as they are about to run off a real impressive win streak. D. Lee and Burnitz went cold and so they had no offense. Nomar is playing some awesome baseball though and is going to put the team on his back. They now have a solid pen with Wood out there.[/QUOTE]

Actually, it is just the last two series. They've only played each other three times this year, and the first was a 2 game series that they split. So, the Cubs are actually 6-3 against the Cards this year. I guess you can call that owning them if you want.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']St. Louis pitchers are garbage. Always have been always will be. How many times do these clowns make the playoffs and choke? I can't wait for the Cubs to take the wild card and smoke their ass in the playoffs like they have done all season[/QUOTE]


Well that must certainly be a well thought out post. Always has been and always will be? Sheesh get some perspective why don't you. You can't wait for the cubs to make the playoffs? I can't wait for toilet paper to turn to gold. Perhaps a CAG bookie bet might be in order to see which happens first? :) Making up a 17 game gap would be VERY impressive.

Really in the discussion about best 1-5 pitching staffs your post doesn't offer much insight.
 
[quote name='gambitmachete']Actually, it is just the last two series. They've only played each other three times this year, and the first was a 2 game series that they split. So, the Cubs are actually 6-3 against the Cards this year. I guess you can call that owning them if you want.[/QUOTE]

I thought they had played a lot more games this season so far.

I recind my comment on ownage, though I will not after they beat them down in Sept.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I thought they had played a lot more games this season so far.

I recind my comment on ownage, though I will not after they beat them down in Sept.[/QUOTE]


So to be clear that is 1 recind, 1 possible unrecind, and 1 probable nonrecind.....

That would be a good cag bookie bet eh? 17 games back..how much will you bet on them making the playoffs? or winning Central?
 
[quote name='Mr.Answer']Well that must certainly be a well thought out post. Always has been and always will be? Sheesh get some perspective why don't you. You can't wait for the cubs to make the playoffs? I can't wait for toilet paper to turn to gold. Perhaps a CAG bookie bet might be in order to see which happens first? :) Making up a 17 game gap would be VERY impressive.

Really in the discussion about best 1-5 pitching staffs your post doesn't offer much insight.[/QUOTE]

how many years have they gone to the post season and not even made it to the NLCS with basically the same staff? They still have no number one starter, even after getting Mark Mulder and everyone of their pitchers has choked in the playoffs. For a team that whoops everyone in the regular season, they can't play for shit in the post season.


When someone steps up as an ace and shows he can win the big games, I may change my stance, but right now, none of them can win the big game.

because of the lack of an ace, I would take the Cubs or the Marlins over the Cardinals. Both teams have pitchers who know how to win the big game and put a team on their back. I would also take someone like the Twins over the Cardinals, even though they have not won. They get to play the Yankees every year, so its not like they were ever going to make it out of the first round.

and I never said they were going to make up a 17 game gap, I explicitly said Wild Card. These are the Cubs still. Winning a division is something this team will probably never do in its history again.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I thought they had played a lot more games this season so far.

I recind my comment on ownage, though I will not after they beat them down in Sept.[/QUOTE]

Okay, but the Cubs will already have been eliminated by then anyway, so who cares?
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']how many years have they gone to the post season and not even made it to the NLCS with basically the same staff? They still have no number one starter, even after getting Mark Mulder and everyone of their pitchers has choked in the playoffs. For a team that whoops everyone in the regular season, they can't play for shit in the post season.


When someone steps up as an ace and shows he can win the big games, I may change my stance, but right now, none of them can win the big game.

because of the lack of an ace, I would take the Cubs or the Marlins over the Cardinals. Both teams have pitchers who know how to win the big game and put a team on their back. I would also take someone like the Twins over the Cardinals, even though they have not won. They get to play the Yankees every year, so its not like they were ever going to make it out of the first round.

and I never said they were going to make up a 17 game gap, I explicitly said Wild Card. These are the Cubs still. Winning a division is something this team will probably never do in its history again.[/QUOTE]

Uh, no #1 starter? How about the soon to be NL Cy Young winner?
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']how many years have they gone to the post season and not even made it to the NLCS with basically the same staff? They still have no number one starter, even after getting Mark Mulder and everyone of their pitchers has choked in the playoffs. For a team that whoops everyone in the regular season, they can't play for shit in the post season.

When someone steps up as an ace and shows he can win the big games, I may change my stance, but right now, none of them can win the big game.

because of the lack of an ace, I would take the Cubs or the Marlins over the Cardinals. Both teams have pitchers who know how to win the big game and put a team on their back. I would also take someone like the Twins over the Cardinals, even though they have not won. They get to play the Yankees every year, so its not like they were ever going to make it out of the first round.

and I never said they were going to make up a 17 game gap, I explicitly said Wild Card. These are the Cubs still. Winning a division is something this team will probably never do in its history again.[/QUOTE]

First of all, the Cardinals have only made it to the post season and not made it to the NLCS one time ever. (In 2001, when they lost in 5 to the D-Backs.)

The Cubs have an ace that can step up and win the big game? Who would that be? Prior? Wood? They really stepped up big in Games 6 & 7 in '03, didn't they? Carpenter is more of an ace than anyone on the Cubs' staff right now. I know he has yet to do it in the post season, but he surely couldn't do any worse than the Cubs "aces" did in '03. You really have a high standard for post-season play considering you're a fan of a team that has won one (1) post season series in like 50 years. (And that one was against the Braves so it shouldn't even count, anyway.)

The Cubs are currently 5.5 games out of the wild card, with six teams (including the mighty Brew Crew) ahead of them. Good luck with that! :lol:
 
[quote name='gambitmachete'](including the mighty Brew Crew)[/QUOTE]

Who gave Clemens the whooping of the year tonight.

Ah fuck, I gots to go to bed or I'll sleep right through my train in the morning. G'night. :D
 
[quote name='Rich']Owning is the 9-4 the DRays are against the Yanks. :lol: :([/QUOTE]
or the 3 - 0 lead the royals have on the yanks:lol:
 
[quote name='Rich']I swear to god, Embree is god's version of revenge for Mendoza.

You guys still paying Embree? :bomb:[/QUOTE]
Actually, yes. We're still responsible for most of his 2005 salary.
 
Im not reading all these post but my indians are back into it. After a slow start by the whole team my main man travis hafner is tearing the cover off the hide of the ball. We are a team of the future with tons of young proven talent. We are missing one player and we will be one of the best in baseball. Grady Sizemore is the future of baseball and you can quote me on that.
 
To the person who said the white sox have a good rotation, your wrong. Thats all on that. We are currently losing to the rays so i gotta go show some support. Also, The As are just winning ballgames, know idea how.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']wright has pitched well in his 2 starts so far[/QUOTE]

No he hasn't. He's been facing free-swinging teams.
 
It's looking pretty good right now - they are a game up in the loss column for the wild card and still not that far behind Boston (3.5-4.0 games?) and they play 6 more times I think.
 
yay the yankees and indians are tied for the lead. We came back with a big hit from cocoa crisp last night and some drama from our fat closer wickman we still won.
 
[quote name='Chris Dillon']yay the yankees and indians are tied for the lead. We came back with a big hit from cocoa crisp last night and some drama from our fat closer wickman we still won.[/QUOTE]

No they're not; the Yanks are in first. It just so happens the Indians have an extra win to counter that loss, but everyone knows its all about the loss column. (and win %)
 
whatever we are tied you god dam yankees fan. Why dont you go and buy another ball player before these waivers are done. Wouldnt be suprised if you pick up ken griffey. That was pretty mean but if you were a redsox fan i would hate you more.
 
lOl Its nice not caring. I remember when the indians at the beginning of this season were out of it but now that they are back in it i fell emotional towards the team again. I went to a game earlier this year and it was much mroe relaxed. Now when i go people are living and dying again on every pitch.
 
[quote name='Rich']No he hasn't. He's been facing free-swinging teams.[/QUOTE]


Thank you, the first person who agrees with me that Wright hasnt been spectactular since coming back, i mean the d-rays and blue jays dont exactly have stellar offenses... lets see him face a real lineup, a red sox, angels, rangers, or indians lineup, then we can say hes throwing well

as far as the yankees making the playoffs, i voted no, but everytime they're almost out of it they crawl back, teams keep giving the yanks life, like the angels blowing two games in a row at the stadium, and then last nights game with the blue jays(i mean you cant let FEXLIX ESCALONA get a game winner off u miguel batista, u just suck)

so heres to hoping its a lonely october in the bronx, but u cant count out the yankees until theyre mathematically out of it...
 
[quote name='Chris Dillon']lOl Its nice not caring. I remember when the indians at the beginning of this season were out of it but now that they are back in it i fell emotional towards the team again. I went to a game earlier this year and it was much mroe relaxed. Now when i go people are living and dying again on every pitch.[/QUOTE]


I would love to see the Indians come back and make it, especially considering I picked them to win the Central before the season, fantastic young team that gives 110% every night, must be a nice show at the Jake
 
[quote name='Chris Dillon']whatever we are tied you god dam yankees fan. Why dont you go and buy another ball player before these waivers are done. Wouldnt be suprised if you pick up ken griffey. That was pretty mean but if you were a redsox fan i would hate you more.[/QUOTE]

Uh, no, it's not tied. The loss column determines who's in first, because then you have control over your own destiny. If the Yankees won every game for the rest of the season, Cleveland wouldn't make the playofs. If Cleveland won every game for the rest of the season, the Yankees could still lose one.

Funny how everyone mentions money...talk about completely writing off moneyball as inadequate. I mean, it's never won a WS or anything. :roll:
 
[quote name='brainstorm']Thank you, the first person who agrees with me that Wright hasnt been spectactular since coming back, i mean the d-rays and blue jays dont exactly have stellar offenses... lets see him face a real lineup, a red sox, angels, rangers, or indians lineup, then we can say hes throwing well

as far as the yankees making the playoffs, i voted no, but everytime they're almost out of it they crawl back, teams keep giving the yanks life, like the angels blowing two games in a row at the stadium, and then last nights game with the blue jays(i mean you cant let FEXLIX ESCALONA get a game winner off u miguel batista, u just suck)

so heres to hoping its a lonely october in the bronx, but u cant count out the yankees until theyre mathematically out of it...[/QUOTE]

The Jays offence is one of the best in the MLB, bud. Ahead of the Angels, Rangers and Indians.

6th overall, sorted by runs. Rays aren't horrible either, 12th.

As far as the pitching though, I agree. But with the Doc and Lilly back, the Jays could have won this wild card.
 
the jays dont have many people who scare you in that lineup though, vernon wells is awesome, but the other guys arent thrilling prolific power hitters, or guys that pitchers really throw around

the angels dont have the numbers to be up there because vlad was hurt for a little while early, finley struggled, and now garret anderson is hurt, so they havent been fully healthy all year, and the indians' offense was HORRIBLE at the beginning of the year, so that could explain why the jays have scored more runs this year, dont get me wrong im not saying toronto is a bad team, they have some talent, but they're not quite there yet and their lineup isnt as strong as some of the otehr teams, espeically the contenders

what i do hope is that your gm stays true to his word, adding $210 million in payroll over the next 3 years like he promised, then your team will really compete, and i'm all for levelling the playing field
 
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