will this work ? return a sealed game from bestybuy to eb or cc?

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I want to get NFK2K5, and i have a gamer pass, but i don't want to wait another week. Would i be able to buy from eb, or cc and then go buy it from BEST BUY, and return the sealed BESTbuy game with the EB or CC recipet ??
OR do they check barcodes or somthing ?
 
Jesus.. quick note.. don't post questions about immoral illegal activities.. it causes huge flaming. Oh, and people like you are damaging the industry daily, you greedy, unethical piece of intestinal trash.
 
I'm pretty sure they check barcodes but who knows, you might get lucky and meet an employee who doesn't care and gives it to you.
 
They definitely wouldn't do it with the other store's receipt. They *might* allow you to return it if you say it was a gift and you weren't given a receipt. However, I do not recommend or condone such an action. As Cornfed said, this is an illegal and immoral action.
 
its not like i'm ripping anybody off, i'm saving 5 bucks and its not like eb is losing any money...
but i didn't know that was illegeal..... my bad
 
It's legal and will work as long as you disclose to the store that you did NOT buy the game from them so you don't want to get a refund but would like for them to buy it from you for the retail price.
 
[quote name='Tromack']They definitely wouldn't do it with the other store's receipt. They *might* allow you to return it if you say it was a gift and you weren't given a receipt. However, I do not recommend or condone such an action. As Cornfed said, this is an illegal and immoral action.[/quote]

I think you misunderstood. He wants to buy the game twice, because his BB does not yet have it. In other words, buy it now from CC or EB, play it, then, buy it from BB, and return the sealed BB copy to CC or EB with the CC or EB receipt.

My advice, be patient, and only buy it once.

Note: While this is somewhat unethical, it is not the same as the Walmart scam.
 
my bestbuy doesn't get it till the 30th, and yes i am impatient,, so i was just looking to save a buck or two... but i'm not gonna do anything illegeal, so i'm not that desperate.
 
I don't think you will have a problem returning the sealed Best Buy copy to CC or EB using the receipt from the original CC or EB purchase (you may have to remove a Best Buy sticker, or something like that....but barcodes should be a non-issue since they should be the same no matter where you purchase).

Oh yeah, and cornfedwb, this transaction is not really immoral or illegal. Think about it...what would the end result be if he would just buy the game from Best Buy when they have it? CC or EB would have no sale and Best Buy would have a sale at a cheaper price due to the Gamer Pass he has.

Think about the end result of his suggested scenario: He purchases the game now from CC or EB and plays it. Then, when Best Buy has the game, he goes and purchases it at a cheaper price with his Gamer Pass. Next, he returns the SEALED Best Buy copy to CC or EB (wherever he bought the first copy) with his original CC or EB receipt. CC or EB ends up with a net no-sale (bought and returned sealed copies of the same game) and Best Buy has a sale at a cheaper price due to the Game Pass purchase.

Sounds like the same end result to me. Actually, buying the game at CC or EB first benefits them in a small way, which would not happen under my first scenario. CC or EB gets his $50 for what is virtually a few days rental. They get to earn interest (and I know its not much, but hey!...) on $50 and then receive the same product back to sell, sealed!

This is hardly an immoral or illegal proposition.
 
I'd say go for it if its really worth the effort of repeat trips to the store just to save $5. I don't think its immoral or anything, since you're not ripping off any stores. They're gonna get the same game back (well just a different copy of it), and you're only getting back what u paid for it in the first place. It would be different if you bought the game from BB for $15 and then sold it back to another store to make money.
 
Blockbuster stores got these in yesterday, but some aren't renting them yet because they have the release date as 7/30 for some reason. Maybe if you explain to them the release date is actually 7/20, you can get them to rent it to you now.
 
[quote name='jeugder']I don't think you will have a problem returning the sealed Best Buy copy to CC or EB using the receipt from the original CC or EB purchase (you may have to remove a Best Buy sticker, or something like that....but barcodes should be a non-issue since they should be the same no matter where you purchase).

Oh yeah, and cornfedwb, this transaction is not really immoral or illegal. Think about it...what would the end result be if he would just buy the game from Best Buy when they have it? CC or EB would have no sale and Best Buy would have a sale at a cheaper price due to the Gamer Pass he has.

Think about the end result of his suggested scenario: He purchases the game now from CC or EB and plays it. Then, when Best Buy has the game, he goes and purchases it at a cheaper price with his Gamer Pass. Next, he returns the SEALED Best Buy copy to CC or EB (wherever he bought the first copy) with his original CC or EB receipt. CC or EB ends up with a net no-sale (bought and returned sealed copies of the same game) and Best Buy has a sale at a cheaper price due to the Game Pass purchase.

Sounds like the same end result to me. Actually, buying the game at CC or EB first benefits them in a small way, which would not happen under my first scenario. CC or EB gets his $50 for what is virtually a few days rental. They get to earn interest (and I know its not much, but hey!...) on $50 and then receive the same product back to sell, sealed!

This is hardly an immoral or illegal proposition.[/quote]

Actually, it is detrimental to the original point of purchase. If he pays by credit card, they are out the fees, but even if he pays cash, they lose their lead time on this copy of a sought after game. So, this copy that surely would have sold while supply is limited, is taken out of circulation, and then replaced when supply is great (when all stores have the game), thereby limiting the chances that this particular copy will sell. Lets take an extreme example to illustrate the point: A person goes to EB, and buys all twenty copies of a game while they are the only store that has them available. Then, when it becomes available at other outlets, he returns all of them. In this scenario, they are still the exact copies that he purchased from EB, but do you see how even that can damage the store's chances of selling the game? I wish I could go into more detail here, but I need to get to work.
 
[quote name='rajchakrabarti']thus the name,,,,, cheap ass gamer .....[/quote]

There's a difference between being cheap and just being a stingy fucker.

About 85% of people on this website need to remove the friggin stick from their butts.
 
The barcodes are the same. There's nothing "wrong" with what the OP wants to do. IMO, it's not worth the time, gas or effort to save $5 though...
 
This would work, its the same upc. Nothing wrong with it eaither really but I'd just wait a couple days its not like its wonderbread or anything.

I mean while we're on hypotheticals what if I bought a copy of a game from best buy and a copy from eb. I sat them on my shelf then I looked and was like, wtf did I buy it twice for. Now they look the same and I can't magically tell which I bought it from so I take one back to one of the stores, is it wrong if I take the wrong one back? I doubt it they're the same and the same transaction occured for both you're just nullifying one transaction.

Oh and please don't post topics in all caps, trust me they'll still get read.
 
He's not accidentaly forgetting which one to return. He's purposefuly returning the less expensive product to the retailer with the more expensive price. Its unethical, no matter how you justify it. If you must have it for $5 less, wait 2 days.
 
I could be mistaken but I don't think I've ever bought a game from a retailer that didn't have a sticker on it that would tell me where I got it from.
 
EB games don't have stickers on them, at least if you pick them up the first day they come in they won't

I do agree he should wait though, I'm just saying it comes down to your opinion in the end
 
While this is not an illegal practice, it is somewhat unethical. Why subject the 1st store to an unneeded return when you can just wait for a few days and just buy it straight up. Some gamers just cant seem to understand the concept of patience. Any way you go, the original store is out either some fees or time, or worse out of the game that someone actually wanted. My advice, just wait.
 
Here is a different scenario: I buy x game for $20 at EB but do not open cause I was busy. 2 days later I realize BB has the same x game for $15. As the cheapass gamer that I am I proceed to buy the BB copy of x game for $15 and and then return the EB copy for a full refund. Nothing wrong with that right? I found a better price elsewhere and changed my mind about the original transaction. The only difference is he told you he would open the first copy thats all. My advise however is for the young lad to wait a couple of days and buy it for less and not have to worry about uneccessary returns...
 
[quote name='BABETOOTH']Here is a different scenario: I buy x game for $20 at EB but do not open cause I was busy. 2 days later I realize BB has the same x game for $15. As the cheapass gamer that I am I proceed to buy the BB copy of x game for $15 and and then return the EB copy for a full refund. Nothing wrong with that right? I found a better price elsewhere and changed my mind about the original transaction. The only difference is he told you he would open the first copy thats all. My advise however is for the young lad to wait a couple of days and buy it for less and not have to worry about uneccessary returns...[/quote]

The difference is intent. In your scenario, you did not buy the game from EB with the intent of returning it (or a different copy).

I know I'm going to get jumped on for this, and I really don't mean any offense by it, but, "advise" and "advice" are two different words. That mistake seems to happen a lot in these forums, almost as much as "rediculous", which is not a word (the word is "ridiculous").
 
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They have magazines in best buy which are free and have 5 off coupons for xbox live software and games. Is this game live enabled? If it is take that coupon to circuit city and ask to pricematch. I did yesterday because best buy was out of stock of the item I wanted, xbox music maker (my mom wanted it :eek:) and they let me use the coupon.
 
[quote name='jeugder']This is hardly an immoral or illegal proposition.[/quote]

This is definitely not an illegal proposition, but definitely one of questionable morals.
 
there is never any worry about any product - if the products are identical the barcodes are identical, you cant print a new barcode for every item, it is cost prohibitive and ultimately pointless, again, this is true of anything that has a barcode not just videogames. It is also not illegal to buy a new sealed copy of a game from store x and return it to store y, if they have a policy of accepting items in new, sealed condition. Now if they require a receipt for all returns and you forged the receipt, yes that would be illegal.

As for the issue on ethics- i would say it is unethical to knowingly harm a company to save a few dollars, the issue is really one over intent, so it is different than accidentally buying two copies, or even buying a copy ton play and one to collect and realizing collecting a sports game is stupid and returning it. This is why the "mom" scenario would not be unethical, the mom scenario being mothers can return just about anything in any condition from any store to another one without receipt and get cash back because they are moms. But they are not (assumedly) doing it because they purchased the product with the original intent of doing it.
 
I don't think Gamestop or EB would care, they rip off tons of gamers daily... It would be like stealing from a very rich thief, but you aren't even stealing. They're getting the same product they started with, and I doubt it will hurt sales that much.

If it was an independant, local game shop, I'd tell you not to do it, because morally it would be wrong. But when you're dealing with heartless companies who don't even care about the games they sell, I think doing something like switching SEALED copies it perfectly legitimate.
 
[quote name='dental_regurgitation']I don't think Gamestop or EB would care, they rip off tons of gamers daily... It would be like stealing from a very rich thief, but you aren't even stealing. They're getting the same product they started with, and I doubt it will hurt sales that much.

If it was an independant, local game shop, I'd tell you not to do it, because morally it would be wrong. But when you're dealing with heartless companies who don't even care about the games they sell, I think doing something like switching SEALED copies it perfectly legitimate.[/quote]

Ok kid, try to listen to me here....

Neither EB nor Gamestop are thieves. They are businesses, they purchase product for what they are willing to pay for it and resell it at a markup (just like EVERY other retail business). The problem is at EB or Gamestop you see their price on the product.. trust me they're making about the same mark-up as many many many retail stores. And it doesn't matter if they're making a 5% markup or a 5,250,349% markup.. if they can find a source for the product and a customer willing to pay that markup, more power to them.. its legal, moral and a positive thing for captitalism.

Because this is a "heartless company" that somehow makes it ok to steal from them? Theft and immoral activities are never justified, period. You are not Robin Hood by stealing from EBgames. Trust me, this "heartless company" has employees that need their paychecks, as well as people at the head of the company that have families, far from heartless. And answer me this.. is it ok to slip a couple games in your pocket at EB.. or is it ok to break into Gamestop at night and clean them out? Or is it only ok to steal a small amount from a "heartless company"?
 
It's not stealing if he brings them back an identical product he left the store with, it's their choice to accept returns.

If he stole the game and returned it, that would be a different case.

On a side note... there's no reason to be condescending, and there's no reason I wouldn't read your post and even agree with your logic. I'm just saying, I doubt anyone anywhere at the EB or Gamestop company would even care that he's doing this, so there isn't any reason to make a big deal. If somewhere it said "DO NOT RETURN SEALED DUPLICATES FROM OTHER STORES" on their receipt, I wouldn't consider it acceptable.
 
I'm almost positive that most return policies require that you return the product purchased. Not a duplicate copy.
 
[quote name='mmn']About 85% of people on this website need to remove the friggin stick from their butts.[/quote]

There you go. You could start doing that for a living.
 
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