Would you consider this as being Mint / Like New?

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Alright, I recently bought a game from flebay. It was advertised as "Mint / Like New".

Upon receiving the item today, I noticed a hole and clear worn signs on the case. The seller bought the item from GameStop, and I would not be surprised if GameStop sold the game to him as "New" in the condition he is selling it to me.

Anyway, I contacted the seller and this is the 2 responses I got after my initial email:

I am disappointed too. I sold this for less than I bought it for just a
short time ago and made sure to only charge exact shipping costs, even if it meant refunding only a small amount of change. I guess I am going to have to start advertising that collectors need not bid as collectors are never easy to please. Just mail it back, packed as it was, with the disc in the same, scratch-free condition, if you are that unhappy.

It is mint/like new. How can it not be mint/like new? The game disc has no
scratches and it was purchased off the shelf directly from Gamestop. The
game was never played and only was off the shelf a very short time. This game is brand new. I never stated it was sealed, nor did I state is was in collectable condition. If you don't want it, mail it back and I will refund your payment.

 With all that said, would you consider this item as being Like New / Mint? Or am I just really anal? :hot::hot::hot:

 Here are pictures of the hole.

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True, but would you consider it as Mint / Like New?

The hole was the only thing I could show using the camera, it is either that or sending you the game and letting you inspect it. :lol::lol:
 
so wait...does the plastic have a hole or the over art?

if plastic....:rofl:

it also depends how much you got it for...i say, just let it be

next time just ask before you bid...for some people, mint/like new portrays to the disc, not the case/booklet.
 
Hmm... if the disc was in mint condition when you got it, I don't think that's so bad. I would have just swapped the case out with another one.

Although that case is definitely not in brand new condition, but I would still consider it to be in mint condition. Just my opinion though...
 
[quote name='refusedchaos']so wait...does the plastic have a hole or the over art?

if plastic....:rofl:

it also depends how much you got it for...i say, just let it be[/quote]


heh, it is the plastic. but what difference does it make?

I guess I am just being Anal. I got it for $19.50 shipped.

I just also noticed, a freaking Gamestop sticker on the cover art....sigh.... going to try to take it off now.
 
[quote name='dinobot']heh, it is the plastic. but what difference does it make?

I guess I am just being Anal. I got it for $19.50 shipped.

I just also noticed, a freaking Gamestop sticker on the cover art....sigh.... going to try to take it off now.[/QUOTE]

ill slide on the case...but sticker on the cover art? no-no...send it back
 
It's being a little anal, but I see your point. however I'm not much of a collector, as long as the game plays I don't mind getting a beat-up copy for cheaper.

I put stuff on ebay all the time and don't always point out every little blemish. If the overall package looks good, I'll say it's in mint condition. If I knew there was a hole I wouldn't use the words "like new." That's a little deceiving, but I wouldn't necessarily point it out.
 
The seller should have mentioned it in his listing, it's similar to listing a CD/DVD as brand new/mint and not mentioning the fact that the UPC code has a hole-punch or black marker strike through it. I consider that only 90% accurate.

Since it's just the plastic and not the artwork itself, this isn't reason enough to complain to the seller, but only enough to feel cheated by eBay. (probably not the first time)
 
[quote name='KiySeph']Hmm... if the disc was in mint condition when you got it, I don't think that's so bad. I would have just swapped the case out with another one.

Although that case is definitely not in brand new condition, but I would still consider it to be in mint condition. Just my opinion though...[/quote]

Yea, the disc is in mint condition. Thanks for the input, I just wanted to see if I was being too anal about my games.

[quote name='refusedchaos']ill slide on the case...but sticker on the cover art? no-no...send it back[/quote]

Yes, GameStop New sticker. Took off the sticker, but sticky residue + sticker mark remains..... :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:

Bye Stella Deus... :cry::cry::cry:
 
Mint or Like New means as if the game were just opened. A case with a hole on it is certainly not like new unless it were a manufacturing error. Even then, it should of still been mentioned.
 
[quote name='dinobot']Yes, GameStop New sticker. Took off the sticker, but sticky residue + sticker mark remains..... :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:

Bye Stella Deus... :cry::cry::cry:[/quote]

I take it this means you're not going to keep it because of the case quality? Go buy some Goo Gone.
 
the little hole doesn't look bad... but the sticker.. that sucks.

I hate when people state brand new... but brand new doesn't mean sealed.. its bullshit...

If you don't feel like going through the trouble of mailing back, then goo-gone is one of the greatest inventions in the history of mankind.

Hah at him bitching about selling it for a lower price than what he just paid @ gamestop. That's the chance you take with flipping stuff like that on eBay.

Also... what game is that? I have no idea what it is by looking at it.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']It's being a little anal, but I see your point. however I'm not much of a collector, as long as the game plays I don't mind getting a beat-up copy for cheaper.

I put stuff on ebay all the time and don't always point out every little blemish. If the overall package looks good, I'll say it's in mint condition. If I knew there was a hole I wouldn't use the words "like new." That's a little deceiving, but I wouldn't necessarily point it out.[/quote]

With all the responses, I guess I am being a bit anal. That's why I wanted to see what ppl thought. I just thought the seller could've put a little more effort in the description.

[quote name='Kerig']The seller should have mentioned it in his listing, it's similar to listing a CD/DVD as brand new/mint and not mentioning the fact that the UPC code has a hole-punch or black marker strike through it. I consider that only 90% accurate.

The real question is this: How extensive is the mini-hole damage? Does putting it in a new PS2 case bring it back to minty fresh status?

If the answer is yes, and it's only the plastic and not the artwork that's been compromised: this is a completely pointless complaint.

If the answer is no: you're still being anal, but you have a reason to feel cheated by eBay.[/quote]

Yea, I feel like a fool now since putting in a new case def bring back the minty feeling. However, the gs sticker is still there. :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb: Damn you GS!!!


[quote name='refusedchaos']u can also try replaceing the cover art by buying one a GS, swap cases, and return[/quote]

Heh, I was thinking about that. Just located one too.
 
For stickers I use a hair dryer on it. It melts the gooey sticky stuff so it'll peel off easy. And like Kerig said, use Goo-Gone. That stuff works wonders. I've made EB/GS copies covered in stickers look nice n' clean.
 
goo gone works on cover arts too?

b/c if it does, I am off to get some now!

also, is that what it is really called? Goo Gone?

nvm... Goo Gone it is.... google is my friend! heh
 
[quote name='dinobot']goo gone works on cover arts too?

b/c if it does, I am off to get some now!

also, is that what it is really called? Goo Gone?

nvm... Goo Gone it is.... google is my friend! heh[/quote]

Since it's a liquid anything paper is gonna make it wet. But it works great on Jewel cases or DVD cases. It'll get rid of anything sticky. And yes it's called Goo-Gone. I bought a bottle about 7 years ago for $1 and am still using it today.
 
actrually, goo-gone will work on the art as well. just don't use a whole lot. i HATE the used stickers on my stuff too. get the bottle. use a tissue and just touch the liquid to the tissue. that's MORE than enough to remove residue. then wipe clean ^^ :)

just be careful of fingernail scratches and gouging the paper
 
[quote name='LilPaintballer']my gamestop stickers always come off without a problem, patience is a virtue.[/quote]

I've noticed that if it's a fresh sticker they're usually easier to peel off. But if they've been sitting for a few years they tend to rip easier.
 
You aren't being anal OP. If a game is listed as Like New, the only thing that should separate it from a new copy is a lack of it being sealed.
 
I think its alright.. no need to send it back.:speaktothehand: I wouldn't start complaining due to that, its just not worth the energy/effort.
 
I really can't see the "hole", but if it's a scratch or something in the plastic of the case itself, I'd call that "like new". Sometimes external packaging gets slightly damaged before it even gets to a store shelf. I always say 'disk/instructions like new, minor shelf wear on package' unless the item is brand new and sealed.
Gamestop sticker on the paper itself, yeah, that's not "like new".
 
[quote name='dinobot']heh, it is the plastic. but what difference does it make?

I guess I am just being Anal. I got it for $19.50 shipped.

I just also noticed, a freaking Gamestop sticker on the cover art....sigh.... going to try to take it off now.[/quote]

Why did you capitalize "anal"?
 
[quote name='hppypnts']I think you can say its like new but it definitely is not mint.[/quote]

I always considered "like new" as a higher quality than "mint."Am I wrong?
 
[quote name='Rodimus']I always considered "like new" as a higher quality than "mint."Am I wrong?[/quote]

I always considered them to be the same. The definition of these terms are just far too vague these days.
 
Seems pretty minor. If he had a picture up showing the hole in the case I'm thinking dock him maybe 1 star on item description. If he didn't have a picture up 2 stars.
 
You're just really anal and this thread is ridiculous, if you really care THAT much about your purchases then you shouldn't buy used games online.
 
[quote name='mortalfloater']Why did you capitalize "anal"?[/quote]

heh, I mistyped.

[quote name='FOnewearl']Seems pretty minor. If he had a picture up showing the hole in the case I'm thinking dock him maybe 1 star on item description. If he didn't have a picture up 2 stars.[/quote]

Yes, it is a minor hole... but he did not have a picture nor did he mention any stickers.

He just said mint / like new for PS2. :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:

Here is another picture after I filed a claim with PP (I got tired of the seller as he kept changing his stories. First he said I can just return the game, then he tells me he wants proof. The he said the game is new b/c he never played it and it was the exact condition gamestop sold it to him, I tried explaining to him that a gutted copy of a game does not mean it is new, it is a display / open box copy.)

The stickers outside did not bother me very much but the sticker on the cover art did since taking it off left a noticeable sticker mark.

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[quote name='Cmosfm']You're just really anal and this thread is ridiculous, if you really care THAT much about your purchases then you shouldn't buy used games online.[/quote]

Sorry, I guess I am anal.... but if I bought something that was advertised as mint / like new, I was really expecting to get it that way.


Paypal took one day to decide in my favor (I guess I am lucky since paypal are run by monkeys).... Although I will lose money sending the game back, I feel good. :D

Thanks for all that replied. Hopefully this won't happen in my future shopping experience.
 
Seller was wrong saying it was mint. Disc was mint but not case which is part of the game as a whole. He should mention any flaws. But you can just switch out cases if you are that worried about it. You got it for a great price too.

*edit* Just read that you are sending it back. You have every right to do that since it was not as described. Hopefully the next seller is more honest. I have dealt with some sellers that said the item was mint and it wasnt. I actually had an item arrive smelling like cigarette smoke. Pissed me off. Got my money back too.
 
[quote name='addicted2games']Seller was wrong saying it was mint. Disc was mint but not case which is part of the game as a whole. He should mention any flaws. But you can just switch out cases if you are that worried about it. You got it for a great price too.

*edit* Just read that you are sending it back. You have every right to do that since it was not as described. Hopefully the next seller is more honest. I have dealt with some sellers that said the item was mint and it wasnt. I actually had an item arrive smelling like cigarette smoke. Pissed me off. Got my money back too.[/quote]

Yes, the thing that still bothers me is that the seller still think his item is mint! Also, he kept threatening me with appeal if he doesn't get the item back in the original condition. Just gonna send it with his original packing just in case he does something.
 
I remember when I was like that.. 9/10 times, when someone else described something as being mint it definitely wasn't. It's like people don't know what mint means. It means perfect, pure and simple- there's no objectivity in the word as there is with good or great.

I really peeved me off so I just gave up and started taking things as long as they were in fairly good and worked fine.
 
Just let this be a lesson to everyone. NEVER buy a used item off of ebay without seeing a picture of it first. I really wish that ebay forced every seller to have a picture of the actual item for sale. New sealed items are fine with a stock picture but shit, if you sell used goods on ebay with any regularity, buy a freaking digital camera.
 
[quote name='Vinny']I remember when I was like that.. 9/10 times, when someone else described something as being mint it definitely wasn't. It's like people don't know what mint means. It means perfect, pure and simple- there's no objectivity in the word as there is with good or great.

I really peeved me off so I just gave up and started taking things as long as they were in fairly good and worked fine.[/quote]

This is exactly what has happened to me. People just simply do not understand the meaning of mint or like new.
 
^That's the scariest fucking seal ever!

I was just messing with you about the capitalized anal thing.

I'm the same way and expect like-new/mint games to be perfect. I don't call it anal, I prefer OCD. It really bugs me when some people sell these so called "like new" items that have slight flaws and if I want a refund, they reply with "It still works though." If I pay for "like new" I want it to be like new!

......makes me angry inside!
 
Mint to me.. is.. everything is perfect.. thats it
for a game. Mint = good box playable game no scracthes on CD or cartrige + book no bends

for other stuff IE figures. Good quailty paint, Mint box mint packaging
 
I am glad majority of ppl that replied didn't think the item is mint or like new.

The seller in his final messages consider me as a con artist that manipulated paypal into believing his item is USED. I really regret buying from this guy. The item is USED! So now he is claiming the item is new? I stopped responding to his e-mails after I know I can't get him to change his mind what mint / like new item is. Sigh.
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']You're just really anal and this thread is ridiculous, if you really care THAT much about your purchases then you shouldn't buy used games online.[/QUOTE]
He's not being anal. The seller clearly said the game was in mint condition, if someone says it's in mint condition then I expect nothing less than mint condition otherwise the item is not as described. I don't care if you don't give a crap about the condition you get your games but most people want it in great condition and as described
 
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