Would you get in trouble for this?? (possible cheap-ass tactic)

[quote name='BABETOOTH']
You got some great games. Good for you! My point is they sold these games new for a profit. Lets say $50 a pop plus tax. Then I bring them back and they give in average $12 each but here is the catch no tax added to that credit. Yet when you bought those used games on average $25 each you also paid tax. If they dont give me tax on my used game how can they charge it on the same game when they sell it. That sounds a bit illegal too. This is why I dont feel bad for any of these chain stores.[/quote]

If you traded at GameStop, then technically you DID get your tax refunded on the $12. When you pay for something with that credit, you will not pay tax on $12 worth of merchandise. Any difference paid after that is taxed, but not your trade credit.
 
[quote name='"Ledhed"'][quote name='"AGuth"'] I've done this several times in my local game stores and have been personally thanked by the managers for helping them out.
Personally, I don't mind if someone swings a deal with someone who didn't want to trade their games to the store anyways. Like someone said before, that's competition, and as long as it isn't done on store grounds, it is fine with me. But the manager THANKING you?

"Man, I was wondering when that person was gonna realize you are the better deal! Can I buy you a beer?"

You're 2-lb trout became a 20-lb trout in the same story.
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Well, I have been a regular customer at many of these game stores for over a decade, and I make it a point to spend on a couple hundred dollars a month on games/hardware at these gamestores in addition to finding cheapass deals elsewhere. It also helps that the manager at one store lives two houses down from me and that another manager plays on my flag football team. I give them enough business that they don't have to worry that I'll spend more money with someone else. They just want to sell as much stuff as they can and beat out the other stores. So take that 20 lb trout shit somewhere else.
 
Background knowledge: important things in giving a valid argument.
Research could be good if, like in this case, you don't know shit about what you're arguing about, but insist on arguing anyway just for the sake of pissing other people off.[/quote]

ASSHOLE, I never said I "new" it was illegal, I said it sounded a bit illegal. I should have said I did not know the reason why but I never pretended to know it either. But since your are in GOD MODE right now. What happens when I return a new game for a refund, and I get all my money back, Did I just screw their "TAX CHECK" the send monthly to UNCLE SAM" Enlighten me big boy...
 
[quote name='chosen1s']
I've got an idea - how about one of you asks Defender if he will let you make a slightly lower offer to any of his customers who want to buy a game off his site...free of charge? I'm sure he won't mind if you can afford to undercut him a little. After all, it's a Capitalist society, right? Why should you have to set up your own site and do your own advertising when his site is all set up? After all, there are probably some games he is priced a little high on. He deserves to be undercut - ON HIS OWN PROPERTY - right?[/quote]

Hate to play Devil's advocate, but you can't compare VGD to a B&M store like that (we're not talking about his store in NYC). After all, there is no 'property' to speak of. And I'm sure that he is undercut in these forums pretty often in various threads. I'd say that the practice in question is most similar to thread-jacking, where someone butts in on your trade thread to say that the game's cheaper someplace else. Annoying, yes. Illegal, no.

If you make a routine out of it, where you loiter waiting for people to trade in, then I think that could be grounds for getting your ass kicked out. But if its just a spur of the moment thing, and here's where I draw the line, if your original intention was to do business with the store not to rip them off then I say its kosher. The employee still reserves the right to say something to you about it, but I don't think you should get kicked out or banned for one instance (especially if you made a purchase or traded in something yourself).

EDIT: BTW, AGuth your wife (I'm assuming that's your wife in your avatar) is hot.
 
You know what I'd like to do one day is actually have a store compete for the game. I mean I'll come in and they;ll offer me 5 bucks for some game I was expecting atleast 12 for and walk away form the counter in disgust(like I normally do) and some guy will say "hey I'll give you 10 for it" then the registermonkey will go I'll give you 11.50!

But actually it'll never happen because the prices they offer at the chain stores are shit, I might as well keep my game and let someone else loose money by trading it in, atleast I'll have it for sentimate sake.

Also when you factor in some of the people who are trading in their games treat them lke crap (or maybe the store did it) and when you get to the used rack they're selling former 'coasters' for 30 damn dollars, they won't likely be sold ever.

Anyway, People want the best price whether they;re buying or selling and they;ll do what ever they can to get it unless they respect you.
 
[quote name='AGuth']
So take that 20 lb trout shit somewhere else.[/quote]

I'll take it home, feed it, see how big it gets. When it hits 40 lbs you can tell us about how the manager gave you head.
 
[quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='BABETOOTH']
You got some great games. Good for you! My point is they sold these games new for a profit. Lets say $50 a pop plus tax. Then I bring them back and they give in average $12 each but here is the catch no tax added to that credit. Yet when you bought those used games on average $25 each you also paid tax. If they dont give me tax on my used game how can they charge it on the same game when they sell it. That sounds a bit illegal too. This is why I dont feel bad for any of these chain stores.[/quote]

If you traded at GameStop, then technically you DID get your tax refunded on the $12. When you pay for something with that credit, you will not pay tax on $12 worth of merchandise. Any difference paid after that is taxed, but not your trade credit.[/quote]

are you sure? I was under the impression that if you took the $12 and bought a $20 game the you were taxed on the $20 and not solely on the difference $8. But then again according ALONGX am a stupid shit for voiceing my oppinion...
 
[quote name='BABETOOTH'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='BABETOOTH']
You got some great games. Good for you! My point is they sold these games new for a profit. Lets say $50 a pop plus tax. Then I bring them back and they give in average $12 each but here is the catch no tax added to that credit. Yet when you bought those used games on average $25 each you also paid tax. If they dont give me tax on my used game how can they charge it on the same game when they sell it. That sounds a bit illegal too. This is why I dont feel bad for any of these chain stores.[/quote]

If you traded at GameStop, then technically you DID get your tax refunded on the $12. When you pay for something with that credit, you will not pay tax on $12 worth of merchandise. Any difference paid after that is taxed, but not your trade credit.[/quote]

are you sure? I was under the impression that if you took the $12 and bought a $20 game the you were taxed on the $20 and not solely on the difference $8. But then again according ALONGX am a stupid shit for voiceing my oppinion...[/quote]

Nevermind ALONGX, I couldn't figure out his trip either. And yes, if you do this at GameStop, I assure you you would only pay tax on the $8. Make sure it's trade credit, or GameBuck$ as some retard in marketing decided we should call it. If it is normal store credit, yes you get taxed. If it is trade credit, not a penny of it is taxed.
 
[quote name='"magilacudy"'][quote name='chosen1s']
I've got an idea - how about one of you asks Defender if he will let you make a slightly lower offer to any of his customers who want to buy a game off his site...free of charge? I'm sure he won't mind if you can afford to undercut him a little. After all, it's a Capitalist society, right? Why should you have to set up your own site and do your own advertising when his site is all set up? After all, there are probably some games he is priced a little high on. He deserves to be undercut - ON HIS OWN PROPERTY - right?[/quote]

Hate to play Devil's advocate, but you can't compare VGD to a B&M store like that (we're not talking about his store in NYC). After all, there is no 'property' to speak of. And I'm sure that he is undercut in these forums pretty often in various threads. I'd say that the practice in question is most similar to thread-jacking, where someone butts in on your trade thread to say that the game's cheaper someplace else. Annoying, yes. Illegal, no.

If you make a routine out of it, where you loiter waiting for people to trade in, then I think that could be grounds for getting your ass kicked out. But if its just a spur of the moment thing, and here's where I draw the line, if your original intention was to do business with the store not to rip them off then I say its kosher. The employee still reserves the right to say something to you about it, but I don't think you should get kicked out or banned for one instance (especially if you made a purchase or traded in something yourself).

I totally agree with you! I think your arguments ort of meets every one elses half way combining it into something we can all agree on. Well said...
 
[quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='BABETOOTH'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='BABETOOTH']
You got some great games. Good for you! My point is they sold these games new for a profit. Lets say $50 a pop plus tax. Then I bring them back and they give in average $12 each but here is the catch no tax added to that credit. Yet when you bought those used games on average $25 each you also paid tax. If they dont give me tax on my used game how can they charge it on the same game when they sell it. That sounds a bit illegal too. This is why I dont feel bad for any of these chain stores.[/quote]

If you traded at GameStop, then technically you DID get your tax refunded on the $12. When you pay for something with that credit, you will not pay tax on $12 worth of merchandise. Any difference paid after that is taxed, but not your trade credit.[/quote]
Thanx!

are you sure? I was under the impression that if you took the $12 and bought a $20 game the you were taxed on the $20 and not solely on the difference $8. But then again according ALONGX am a stupid shit for voiceing my oppinion...[/quote]

Nevermind ALONGX, I couldn't figure out his trip either. And yes, if you do this at GameStop, I assure you you would only pay tax on the $8. Make sure it's trade credit, or GameBuck$ as some retard in marketing decided we should call it. If it is normal store credit, yes you get taxed. If it is trade credit, not a penny of it is taxed.[/quote]
 
if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.
 
[quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.[/quote]

I appreciate it. This site had just had a lot of really big flame wars lately and its getting a little annoying. I think flaming has its place but bringing up profanities in reference to another person is where I draw the line
 
[quote name='chosen1s'][quote name='Lootr2Core']

I can't wait for Babetooth to grow up, and try to get a job to support himself and maybe afamily. "what did they ever do for you? sheesh talk about narcissistic. They provide a service if you don't want the service move on. I'm guessing either BABETOOTH is a kid who hasn't entered the real world yet, or is a government employee. :)[/quote]

Well said. I remember when I thought retail stores owed me something. Darn. Back to reality. I have to go to bed so I can get to work tomorrow.[/quote]

I am probably older than the 2 of you put together (5 and 6) LOL I dont need to justify anything to any one. I do have a family and I dont work for the goverment. I love this website for the great deals that are posted by so many of you (THANKS) am not here to pick a fight with any one specially kids who just got rid of their diapper rash. I visit the website and sometimes voice my opinion and thats that. Nothing personal. I think you guys got me figured out wrong... Have some fun without getting too offensive!
 
[quote name='magilacudy'][quote name='chosen1s']
I've got an idea - how about one of you asks Defender if he will let you make a slightly lower offer to any of his customers who want to buy a game off his site...free of charge? I'm sure he won't mind if you can afford to undercut him a little. After all, it's a Capitalist society, right? Why should you have to set up your own site and do your own advertising when his site is all set up? After all, there are probably some games he is priced a little high on. He deserves to be undercut - ON HIS OWN PROPERTY - right?[/quote]

Hate to play Devil's advocate, but you can't compare VGD to a B&M store like that (we're not talking about his store in NYC). After all, there is no 'property' to speak of. And I'm sure that he is undercut in these forums pretty often in various threads. I'd say that the practice in question is most similar to thread-jacking, where someone butts in on your trade thread to say that the game's cheaper someplace else. Annoying, yes. Illegal, no...

EDIT: BTW, AGuth your wife (I'm assuming that's your wife in your avatar) is hot.[/quote]

I disagree, though well stated.

It's actually pretty easy to compare his site to a B&M store. The 'property' is the site. Defender built it, and pays to maintain it. People visit his site just like they visit a store. The only difference is that it's a lot harder for someone to steal a customer because customers don't interact with each other there.

No, it's not like thread-jacking. The reason being that Defender pays a fee for his site I am sure. When someone pushes in on your thread, they are bullying in on something you got for free. For instance - if someone comes and decides to let their kids play tag in the middle of your picnic at the park. It's a free park for everyone. Sure, you were there first, but the place is free to everyone. On the other hand, if they came to your back-yard, or to a restaurant that you had rented out for the night and shoved their way in, then you have a legitimate complaint because you PAID to keep them out. Thread-jacking does not involve taking advantage of something that the person you are taking it from had paid for (Yes, CheapyD pays for the site but you are not taking anything away from him).

Once again, Annoying is when someone takes over your space at a public place. Highly unethical/perhaps illegal is when they take over the space that you paid for to use privately.

Yes, AGuth's wife is hot.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.[/quote]

I appreciate it. This site had just had a lot of really big flame wars lately and its getting a little annoying. I think flaming has its place but bringing up profanities in reference to another person is where I draw the line[/quote]

I Agree!!!
 
[quote name='BABETOOTH']

ASSHOLE, I never said I "new" it was illegal[/quote]

Dude, this is one of the funniest things I've read all night. I really need to go to bed. I'm sure you know how to spell "knew", but still, to start out a comment with a profane insult and then proceed to mis-spell a simple word like this is priceless. You're right, I should have more of a sense of humor about this stuff.

However, I do get on my soapbox about people who think the world owes them. It frustrates me because I'm a person who really wants to help people. I used to envision myself working at homeless shelters and working with people who were down on their luck. I'm not against it even now, but it is extremely discouraging to know that there are people out there who think I owe them my money (this gets into a lot of my political views).

I have also done some of my own business ventures and it is really frustrating that everybody out there thinks you owe them something because you are selling. They can't just say "I'll buy that" or "I don't want to pay that". They think they have a right to let me do all the work and then get a handout just because they exist.

That's all I'm saying. I did get a little worked up, but that "new" comment really made my night. Hope everybody gets some good sleep. Oh yeah, I doubt seriously that you're older than me. I'm old enough to have voted against Clinton and Gore. (which I did)
 
I was an assistant manager for an EB for 3 years (we called ourselves assmans), and if you did this in my store I'd kick out and ask you never to come back. Offering to do business in another person or company's place of business is probably not illegal in that you'd ever get arrested, but it is extremely rude. EB, or Gamestop, paid for the space you are trying to solicit in.

I can't deny that trade-in values at these stores are low. But if you don't like it, sell your games on Ebay and don't shop at EB or Gamestop. Simple as that. Doing this, walking into a game store and stealing business, is not at all unlike someone emailing a winning bidder on one of your ebay auctions and offering to sell it for a dollar less. It's taking advantage of the fact that you, in ebay's case, or the company, in EB or Gamestop's case, went to the effort to bring the person in the store or bid on the auction, and attempt to make a transaction. You're leeching off of that by swiping the transaction out from under the company.

Is it illegal? Maybe if you do it again after they've asked you to leave. Is it rude and unethical? Undoubtedly so.
 
You know, I have the vague impression that if you are a regular customer who makes plenty of preorders and purchases, even the angriest of managers would think twice before "kicking you out" forever... if the manager is trying to keep up with a district quota on sales, and knows that the guy in question is good for -several- preorders and purchases, he'd be stupid to get rid of him. Scare him, yes... but not get rid of him.

While I agree that the manager SHOULD dissaude and forbid "stealing" sales, I think that anyone who would jump to the level of "banning" a customer is much too angry to be a manager. For a repeated "offense", I could see the logic... but it would make more sense to warn the guy first.
 
I do it at my local Gamestop all of the time. The manager always laughs and tells me to take it outside jokingly. I bought Dead To Rights for $7.00 like that along with others.
 
[quote name='BABETOOTH'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.[/quote]

I appreciate it. This site had just had a lot of really big flame wars lately and its getting a little annoying. I think flaming has its place but bringing up profanities in reference to another person is where I draw the line[/quote]

I Agree!!![/quote]

You know, just because a thread directed at someone isn't obscenity laced, it doesn't mean it's not offensive. You should go back and look at some of your previous posts and mull that over.
 
i posted in another topic (i forget which one) a week or so ago about gamestop....that the game stop i was in recently had two women selling their games (to gamestop) and the employee was giving them ridiculously low prices for the games...and the women didn't know what they were doing, so they just went with the prices....every1 was staring at these women like they were nuts...and a customer next to them offered them a higher offer...and the gamestop employee yelled at him saying he could get him arrested for interfering with the transaction...i dont know if this is true....you would probably just get a verbal warning if anything....and it might vary from state to state....
 
Do this enough, and they'll forbid your return.
Then the chance of prosecution becomes very real if you go there again.

State of Michigan:

MCLA 750.552 is the general state statute for trespass. This statute prevents anyone from trespassing upon the premises of another after having been forbidden to do so. Violation of the statute is a criminal misdemeanor offence, punishable by a fine of up to $50.00 and 30 days in jail or both.
 
yeah...i would never try this anyway....you'll never get a good deal through pissing off one of the stores that you rely on getting good deals from....it seems like you have to kiss ass to get the really good deals from the employees at eb and gs....
 
"And ripping of moms and little kids? Someday when you are all grwon up and have a real job and learn what business is all about you will realize that no one is being ripped off.

Its people like you that think they could ever get a job at EB or Gamestop with an attitude like this. People come in all the time and ask for jobs that argue with me about trade ins and things they don't feel is fair and all I do is laugh at them and ask them if they actually expect to ever work for me.

And if you think I am full of shit, then why is my store always ranked at the top of the district/region?????? "

LOL, what about game developers then? Isn't EB ripping off them by selling used games without giving a dime in royalities to the publishers :0.

And being at the top really isn't saying much especially most sales are based on location.
 
[quote name='magilacudy'] If you make a routine out of it, where you loiter waiting for people to trade in, then I think that could be grounds for getting your ass kicked out. But if its just a spur of the moment thing, and here's where I draw the line, if your original intention was to do business with the store not to rip them off then I say its kosher. The employee still reserves the right to say something to you about it, but I don't think you should get kicked out or banned for one instance (especially if you made a purchase or traded in something yourself). [/quote]

This is the best argument I've heard so far.... the way this guy described it is basically what I had in mind when I envisioned this whole situation. Like he said, I definitely wouldn't recommend going to a store JUST to try this out. But if you saw some ignorant mother about to take $8 for, say, a mint non-GH CastleVania, I'd definitely recommend speaking up. And be discreet about it, of course. And as others have pointed out, I've been in stores where an employee basically told a customer NOT to trade something in, because the item was rare and they'd get a much better price on eBay. I feel like this is the type of thing where you just need to be sensible and use good judgment, on a case-by-case basis.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='BABETOOTH'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.[/quote]

I appreciate it. This site had just had a lot of really big flame wars lately and its getting a little annoying. I think flaming has its place but bringing up profanities in reference to another person is where I draw the line[/quote]

I Agree!!![/quote]

You know, just because a thread directed at someone isn't obscenity laced, it doesn't mean it's not offensive. You should go back and look at some of your previous posts and mull that over.[/quote]

May I ask who's posts you are referring to?
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

I appologize for any profanity in my previous posts, I was just trying to make a point. I'll try to tone it down in the future.
 
[quote name='BABETOOTH']I never said I "new" it was illegal, I said it sounded a bit illegal. I should have said I did not know the reason why but I never pretended to know it either. But since your are in GOD MODE right now. What happens when I return a new game for a refund, and I get all my money back, Did I just screw their "TAX CHECK" the send monthly to UNCLE SAM" Enlighten me big boy...[/quote]

I didn't comment on the legality of this course of actions in the post you were quoting, first of all. And I certainly wasn't preaching morality to you. I just took a minute to explain simple accounting procedures.
You see, on every end of every transaction, Uncle Sam likes to take a taste. That is what we call tax. And we pay them all over the place. When a tax is incurred, the company places the tax money aside and sends it to the government at the end of the period, which is usually a month. If an item is returned and the full amount is paid back, then, if the government already received the money, they usually would send it back, or ask the store to keep the amount which they are owed from the next months' check.
 
True, but Gamestop doesn't offer people a better trade in by walking into EB and asking people once they are at the counter in EB.

I'm all for the better trade in, though. If someone will give me $5 more, that just means I'll have another $5 to spend in that store. Chances are if you are trading in, you are looking to get another used game and/or a new one.

It's tricky. I wouldn't mind so much, but people also don't have to be an ass.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']There is indeed a fine line between "Ass" and "CheapAss."[/quote]

This has to be the best comment in this thread.

I can see where the stores need to protect their interests. Still it's hard not to feel ripped off when a new game sells for $50 and the used copy is $45. A 10% off sale? No one would waste the money to advertise that small of a sale. Can you imagine if used cars were only 10% cheaper?
 
I did this once. I was going to sell GTA3 (shortly before VC came out). They offered me like $12 or something ridiculous, since it was still selling used for $44.99. There was a guy at the counter buying a used PS2 and a stack of games. I sold it to him for $20. Clerk didn't care at all. To make it up to them I bought some stuff from them later on.
 
[quote name='The Game']
Its people like you that think they could ever get a job at EB or Gamestop with an attitude like this. [/quote]

What a prestigious job thats way better than working at mcdonald's lol. DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO JOIN THE GAMESTOP. LOL You make it sound like its being drafted into the nba or something.
 
[quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='BABETOOTH'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='Ledhed'][quote name='CaseyRyback']if this gets anymore out of hand I am locking this. I am tired of reading remarks with profanities directed specifically at someone. Its not cool, and we all know what type of path it leads down[/quote]

Sorry dude, I really didn't mean to make it an issue. I'll stop, for you. And only you.[/quote]

I appreciate it. This site had just had a lot of really big flame wars lately and its getting a little annoying. I think flaming has its place but bringing up profanities in reference to another person is where I draw the line[/quote]

I Agree!!![/quote]

You know, just because a thread directed at someone isn't obscenity laced, it doesn't mean it's not offensive. You should go back and look at some of your previous posts and mull that over.[/quote]

May I ask who's posts you are referring to?[/quote]

Not you Ledhed. While all of us are guilty of stepping over the line of good taste and/or decorum, Babetooth has been being fairly presumptous for a newbie... while he didn't swear in most of his posts, he still was rather impolite and coarse.
 
[quote name='"chosen1s"'][quote name='BABETOOTH']

ASSHOLE, I never said I "new" it was illegal[/quote]

At least I made you laugh CHOSEN1. To my defense it was really late and my allergies are very severe. Medication is no joke. Nothing personal last night. BTW I may not win to many spelling contests but I can spell better than that. As for your voting choices, you are entitled. I voted Clinton and Gore but I also made the mistake of voting for Bush Sr. This was back in College when I thought being a Republican was the in thing. I guess too much "Family Ties" and Alex P. Keaton (Michael J. Fox) during my formative years had a bad influence on me. I am voting for Kerry not because I agree with everything he stands for but because he is the lesser of two evils.
Are you part of the "Religious Right" Just wondering...
 
[quote name='Ymeegod']
LOL, what about game developers then? Isn't EB ripping off them by selling used games without giving a dime in royalities to the publishers :0.

And being at the top really isn't saying much especially most sales are based on location.[/quote]

Yes, location is very much what determines sales numbers, but those aren't the only numbers that make you number one. There are a lot of other factors that give your store placement in the ranks. Subscriptions, Reserves, multiple item sales, etc. (insert more corporate babble)

As for someone offering a customer more money for a trade? I just ask them to take it outside. Why not? If someone offered me more for a trade I certainly wouldn't want the employee jumping all over them for doing it. And if they did, my impression of the employees in that store wouldn't be a very positive one. Customer service is the #1 reason I will return to a store, so I treat everyone the way I would want to be treated when they walk through the door.
 
Without replying to anyone specifically I can give my thoughts on this......

I remember doing this kind of thing when I was a kid trading/selling baseball cards. I would whisper to someone that I had some cards to trade/buy and if they wanted we could go outside and talk. I'm sure the stores, which were independently owned, would have been really upset but back then I didn't care. I'm sure what I thought was the guy ripping people off was him just trying to make a living....he was working 9-5 like everyone else, not living in a mansion and making tons of money.

I don't think any laws are broken (I'm not sure though) but I know that the stores are paying rent to do business on their premesis. Whether or not you think they are ripping people off it's wrong to interfere with their business in that way, although it's a lot better if you are discrete and do all dealings with people outside the store.

I think Capitalism and free market mean that you have the right not to buy from a store, to look elsewhere, to deal with who you want, but there are limits. Employees from one store shouldn't go into another to mention deals/sell items, and neither should an individual. I agree with others who said that just because an employee doesn't care, it doesn't make it right. If you think gamestores are ripping people off then go on ebay, web boards etc. to buy and sell or if you have to stand outside of the game store....but let the people in the store do their business.....

That said it's no reason to get way bent out of shape, if you are a regular employee or even if you are a manager. Ask the people to please not do this kind of thing and if you feel you need to ask them to leave the store. Is it really necessary to try to make them feel like they shouldn't ever come back into the store?
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']From now on when I go into a Gamestop or EB games, I'm going to wear a white t-shirt that says "I will give you $1 more for your trade in."[/quote]

This is the best one yet!!! love it!!! BTW I apologize to those who think I was a bit abrasive. I just want to have a good time and will tone it down unless provoked. I respect everyones opinion regardless of mine!
 
I went to this local gamestore one time and there was somebody trying to trade a new xbox with 3 games and 2 controllers and they were going to give him like $60 cash or $100 trade.(This was about 1 year ago) Obviously he left and I followed. Asked what they were going to give him. Asked what he wanted. Gave him $100 cash and ended following him back to his place and getting around 15 more newly released games for about $10 each. Pretty sweet deal at the time.


Same store:

I took games to trade into the same store and it was some rare games(some they were selling in store for like $50 each). I brought about 15 games in. Register monkey said I will give you $90 without taking the time to look in his pricing book at the games. I said, are you serious, several of these games are $50 in your store, several are $40 several are...ect. Basically I know the store prices like the back of my hand so I can trade high valued games for high store credit...

I took my trade and left the store and went to their other branch that is about 10 miles away. Guess how much I got for the same games in the same store, but at a different location..........$220.00 a difference of $130 and Im no price is right bitch, but WTF.

You will like this also. I have a handful of stories about gaming stores. So like I indicated above, I get high traded games cheap and trade them for stuff I want in the store. The manager at this store like stalked me. He had my name from the trade slip and my address. He like found my ebay user handle and was tracking what I bought and what I traded in there store. He threatened to kick me out of the store because in his words " I am not supporting your ebay sales" Another WTF. It is probably illegal to stalk someone or threaten in this manner, but anyway.
I had to change my ebay handle and some other info 2 times because of him. Finally, I use there other branches of the same store to trade stuff now.

The real question.. Do I give a flying crap about big business corporate gaming stores? About as much as I care about Wal-Mart.
 
I am against offering customer more $$$ in other people store. I will let you know why (for those of you who are in the REAL WORLD, you already know why, I am sure).

Say there's this person A who's a realtor. Then a person B who wants to sell his house. Lastly, a person C who wants to buy a house.

Person B comes in to person A's office to sell his house and A can give $100,000 for his house (A can resell the house for $145,000). Person C who just happens to be at A's office overheard this and offers B $130,000 for the house. B agrees to sell to C directly.

That leaves realtor A with no client and no $45,000 profit.

So, for those of you who hasn't "grown up" yet, do you still think that kind of practice won't affect business? Granted games don't have that much profit, but if there are lots of people doing it, it will hurt as much.

If you are doing this in the store, you and the game seller needs to pay commission to Gamestop or EB since they are the one who's bringing both of you together at the same spot just like EBAY does to millions of people. Understand?
 
[quote name='Flamegames']The real question.. Do I give a flying crap about big business corporate gaming stores? About as much as I care about Wal-Mart.[/quote]

You might not care and you don't have too, but you still need to respect them as a business. It's just like some people dont' care about their parents, but they still need to respect them!
 
This is a very good point. You pay ebay a comission for your transactions, and stores charge their own comission in the form of somewhat jacked up prices.

[quote name='btantra']I am against offering customer more $$$ in other people store. I will let you know why (for those of you who are in the REAL WORLD, you already know why, I am sure).

Say there's this person A who's a realtor. Then a person B who wants to sell his house. Lastly, a person C who wants to buy a house.

Person B comes in to person A's office to sell his house and A can give $100,000 for his house (A can resell the house for $145,000). Person C who just happens to be at A's office overheard this and offers B $130,000 for the house. B agrees to sell to C directly.

That leaves realtor A with no client and no $45,000 profit.

So, for those of you who hasn't "grown up" yet, do you still think that kind of practice won't affect business? Granted games don't have that much profit, but if there are lots of people doing it, it will hurt as much.

If you are doing this in the store, you and the game seller needs to pay commission to Gamestop or EB since they are the one who's bringing both of you together at the same spot just like EBAY does to millions of people. Understand?[/quote]
 
[quote name='"The Game"'][quote name='"chunk"'][quote name='"gizmogc"']
Its people like you that think they could ever get a job at EB or Gamestop with an attitude like this. People come in all the time and ask for jobs that argue with me about trade ins and things they don't feel is fair and all I do is laugh at them and ask them if they actually expect to ever work for me.quote]

I know this was an eairlier post but I just have to comment on it.

I'm asuming you work at an EB or Gamestop. Now why do you highly regard your job as something only "special" people can have. I would "HATE" to work in an EB or Gamestop. I've actually been offered jobs their while in conversations with managers their. Personally, for me retail sucks as a job. I've done it, don't get me wrong, but I very much dislike it. Only like $6 an hour, most people at EB's or GS don't know shaq-fu about games. (Perfect example, my video game challanged brother works part-time at an EB.) What's so great about your job?

Sorry to the rest of you, I'm just venting. And anyone reading this that works at a video game store. I don't mean this directly to you. Just the person I'm quoting.
 
I find it funny when its a totally different atmosphere when the store is run by people who play games and those who do not.

Both EB's down in Wilmington are run by people who do not play games, are sales concentrated and do not even know store policies (case in point getting an exchange or return on Street Fighter Alpha 3 was hell until I talked to the district manager). The gamestops down here are totally different as they can say something besides "do you need any help?" and will even talk to you about other stuff besides what is in the store for sale
 
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