XBLA - Super Contra (400pts) & Wing Commander (800pts) - Wed 7/25

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Wing Commander Arena will cost 800 points and includes features such as:
  • The first Xbox LIVE Arcade title featuring multiplayer gameplay for up to 16 players over Xbox LIVE
  • Four gameplay modes: Single Player, Multiplayer Team, Free for All, and Duel
  • Players can choose from 18 different ships that can be customized with cloaking devices, mines, energy weapons, missiles and more!
  • Skill-based matchmaking for ranked games
  • Earn up to 12 Achievements and 200 Gamerscore
Super Contra will cost 400 points and includes features such as:
  • Two gameplay modes: single player or two player co-op, either locally on the same Xbox 360 or over Xbox LIVE
  • Players can choose to play with either the original graphics or the enhanced graphics
  • Compete for the weekly and all time high scores on the Leaderboards
  • Earn up to 12 Achievements and 200 Gamerscore
http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2007/07/23/552218.aspx

Seems like a pretty weak weak for XBLM. Seems like everyone knows that Super Contra sucks and no one has high expectations for Wing Commander. Will give both a shot nontheless.
 
Glad Wing Commander Arena is coming. I am a little interested in the game, and I have 800 points to buy something with. Thinking about Band of Bugs or Wing Commander, so I guess I can decide this Wednesday. Thanks for the heads up LP!
 
I've been looking forward to checking out Wing Commander. XBLA has been on quite a winning streak. Maybe not a "must buy" each and every week but they've been cranking out constant quality releases for a few months now.
 
Never played either of em, but I'll give them both a try. I love the original Contra, so the Super Contra has gotta be good, right?
 
I didn't think Super Contra sucked. I used to love that game. I played it all the time on my NES back in the day. This is one I'll most likely download.
 
They must have a good cue of games ready and near ready since they wouldn't be putting out 2 a week if the well was going to be dry anytime soon. Would love to know what is in the works that we don't know about.... I love XBLA.
 
I don't see how Nintendo can charge $1 for Super Contra (assuming they do offer it) and it being a straight port. Atleast XBLA allows online play and its cheaper.
 
[quote name='Level Jumper']I didn't think Super Contra sucked. I used to love that game. I played it all the time on my NES back in the day. This is one I'll most likely download.[/quote]

I mean the people who already played the XBLA version though that it sucked. Basically if you didn't like the original one for XBLA you won't like this one either.
 
Why is this coming out on Tuesday?

I'm excited to see what Wing Commander is like. I was a big fan of the old series, it will hurt not having Mark Hammil but I hope this is fun in an arcady sort of way.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Why is this coming out on Tuesday?[/QUOTE]
It's not, as far as I know. Not sure where the OP got the information. Major Nelson has it has a Wednesday release, as usual.
 
Considering that everyone bitched that the original Contra release on XBLA wasn’t Super Contra I don’t see how anyone could say that this news sucks. I’ll be basing my decision to purchase Super Contra when I see the achievement list. I'm really hoping that it is not a rehash of the Contra achievements.

Also it looks like Wing Commander will be having an online manual.

Here is the link. http://images.ea.com/ea/arcade/draft2cRGB.pdf


Have any other XBLA titles had online manuals?
 
[quote name='akilshohen']what happened to Puzzle fighter in July?[/quote]

looks like its not gona happen :( unless tehey are saving it for augest 1 or july 31
 
[quote name='shrike4242']For those of you complaining about the cost of XLBA points, CC is running a sale next week (starts on the 29th) where if you buy two XBL accessories, you save $20. Points cards are accessories, so it's like B1G1 on points cards.

Thread about it is here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145407[/QUOTE]

THANK YOU SHRIKE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD YOU! I've been looking for deals on M$ points for some time now, and $20 3200 M$ points sounds good to me.
 
The review of Wing Commader in OXM was very good, an 8.5/10. 16 player online dogfights in space for $10? I'm really looking forward to it and am kinda surprised there's not more interest in it here.
 
Was excited for WC also, but I'll try out the demo first. Although it got a good score in OXM, their review told me jack about how it actually plays.
 
[quote name='Decker']The review of Wing Commader in OXM was very good, an 8.5/10. 16 player online dogfights in space for $10? I'm really looking forward to it and am kinda surprised there's not more interest in it here.[/QUOTE]

They gave the same score to band of bugs. But nobody else seemed to like it for some reason.
 
Is there much depth to Band of Bugs? The demo was kind of fun, but I wasn't sure it was something I really wanted.
 
Wow, I'm beyond excited about the circuit city sale. $20 for 3200 points. Wow, that makes some of the Oblivion extras really tempting, even though I really was thinking about waiting to get them on a CD, even if the cost was a bit more (and thanks for posting it here, I usually don't scan through the big ad sale (figure the huge sales get posted again).

On topic though, Wing Commander looks interesting. Since I rarely purchase XBLA games, and I just got Bomberman last week, I might pass, but we'll have to see.
 
They released the achievements...



Super Contra Achievements:

1. Good Start: Complete level 1 in less than 3 minutes. – 10 points

2. Two Levels: Complete level 2 while playing an Xbox Live CO-OP game. – 10 points

3. Three Levels: Complete level 3 in Single Player or Multi-Player mode. – 15 points

4. Four Levels: Complete level 4 in Single Player mode. – 20 points

5. Five Levels: Complete level 5 in Single Player or Multi-Player mode. – 30 points

6. Armory: Collect 5 different weapon types. – 15 points

7. Good Score: Reach level 2 with a score of 100,000 or more. – 10 points

8. Team Players: Score 300,000 points in an Xbox Live CO-OP game, while still alive. – 20 points

9. Shot Down: Destroy the helicopter without dying once. – 15 points

10. Elite Soldiers: Both players possess a Spread Gun at the same time at some point in the game. – 10 points

11. Endurance: Both players must complete level 1 without losing lives in an Xbox Live CO-OP game. – 10 points

12. Master: Complete the game using only 1 credit. – 35 points


I’m not exactly sure what I was hoping for but I’m not very excited about the Super Contra achievements.




Wing Commander Arena Achievements:

1. Hot Dog: Complete each Ring Game difficulty level. – 20 points

2. Commando: Earned ULF Commando Tattoo (15 frags in a Melee match). – 10 points

3. Dogfight: Shot down first pilot in a Xbox LIVE match. – 10 points

4. Ace: Defeat 5 ships in a Ranked Xbox LIVE match without respawning. – 20 points

5. Untouchable: Reach wave 10 in Gauntlet without ever taking damage to your hull. – 20 points

6. TCS Tiger’s Claw: Compete a 16 player Capital Ship game. – 10 points

7. Hibernation: Reach a streak of 5 in a Bearpit game. – 20 points

8. Gunfighter: Win a Ranked Duel with each ship type. – 20 points

9. Navigator: Travel through every gold jump gate in the game. – 10 points

10. Retro: Reach wave 20 in Meteor Storm. – 10 points

11. Paladin: Shoot down 1000 pilots on Xbox LIVE. – 30 points

12. Deathstroke: Finish in first place in any Ranked Free For All match. – 20 points



The Wing Commander Arena achievements look like a lot fun.
 
Super C's multiplayer achievements seem a lot more difficult this time around. I just hope I don't get swamped with random people asking me to help get them.
 
I havent bought anything yet since these are going to be my last gaminglagoon points in awhile lol (really got them just for Super FS Turbo HD remix, puzzle fighter and undertow). I'm probably going to pick up Super Contra but I'm waiting on reviews for Wing Commander. It just seems really shallow

I flew around blasted the bots and there basically didn't seem to be much to the gameplay other than a spam fest. Reverse thrust on the ships is REALLY REALLY odd :D its mindless fun but it's really missing a single player campaign mode of some sort. 400 pts I'd probably bite just for the nostalgia, 800 is pushing it. Game is pretty much what I expected of it, made for a cheap buck aimed at the desperate fanboys. For those who have bought it, how are the cap ship battles?
 
[quote name='io']FWIW, these are up as of 1am Pacific...[/QUOTE]

It's 1am now not 2am?

Downloaded the Demos and my 1st impressions:

Super C: It's Contra, what you expect? Hard, 1 hit kills, etc.

Wing Commander Arena: For a second, I taught the Battlestar Galactica XBLA game is out. Think of Ace Combat in space, but it's just only dogfighting, CTF, etc.

Unsure if I want to buy one or both this week when payday strikes.
 
[quote name='vlv723']It's 1am now not 2am?
[/QUOTE]

I don't know, but it was up then, if not a tad before 1am actually. It may have been more like 12:45. I did a quick check before I turned off the 360 and was planning to get back on after 2 to check again - was surprised to see them there. I hope they keep that up, as it gives me more of a chance to try them out when they first hit. Not that it matters much to me - I'm still up now (3:43 am) ;).
 
Wing Commander bored me to death and Super Contra...just playing the demo was enough for me. I'll save my points for Streets of Rage and Puzzle Fighter.
 
For anyone who purchased the full version of Contra, can I change the controls?

The fact that they changed them from the original contra pisses me off.

edit: I figured it out. Also I can't believe that absolutely no one on my friends list has nabbed Super Contra. It certainly is a hard game and the achievements are not going to come easy, but it is pretty fun.
 
Haven't downloaded anything yet. But, from the sounds of it, is Wing Commander a better experience than say Crimson Skies? If not, everyone can just go and buy Crimson Skies for $3 from Gamestop. The only issue with that game is finding enough people to have dogfights with.
 
Crimson Skies > Wing Commander x 1 billiion. Crimson Skies is a totally awesome game and the #1 game that had me pissed off that it was xbox exclusive back in the day. Now it's the best game I EVER bought and will buy for $4 lol
 
I can't believe how utterly asstacular Wing Commander is. It's actually embarrassing. It's got to be one of the worst games on XBLA. A space combat game that isn't in 3D space....are you kidding me??
 
I disagree. I think Wing Commander's great. Story mode would be nice, but multiplayer's where it's at. Not in 3D space? Let's ask Geometry Wars and Aegis Wing if a shooter can be fun on a 2D plane. I'll get back to you.

Super Contra has better graphics and sound than the original Contra, but the gameplay is busted. It's just much too hard! There are way too many enemies who move way too fast and fire way too many projectiles for the game to be even close to fair. In level 4 they pretty much just fly straight into you.

You can find perfect play videos on YouTube but they don't help much - the random patterns of enemies and their shots will throw off most strategies. I really expected to like Super Contra, but I'm only annoyed so far.
 
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