XBLA - Super Contra (400pts) & Wing Commander (800pts) - Wed 7/25

Seems like the word on the street is that Wing Commander smells like wet swimtrunks.
 
[quote name='eastx']I disagree. I think Wing Commander's great. Story mode would be nice, but multiplayer's where it's at. Not in 3D space? Let's ask Geometry Wars and Aegis Wing if a shooter can be fun on a 2D plane. I'll get back to you.[/QUOTE]


Well if you enjoy it then more power to you, but you can't really justify this gameplay by comparing it to Aegis Wing or Geometry Wars, those are from a top-down perspective. This game tries to seem like it is 3D but then just limits you to a 2D plane. Not that a game couldn't do that and be good, it's all in the execution, but IMO the execution here is super weaksauce. There isn't even a cockpit view for gods sake.

I would say Aegis Wing is 10x more polished, and it was made by interns and given away free.

But like I said, if you enjoy it that's all that matters. I'm not trying to convince you not to like it.
 
Aegis Wing is probably more polished in some ways, but definitely not graphically. Wing Commander's backgrounds and especially ship designs are much better.
 
I actually like the gfx in Aegis Wing better. But the gameplay is what matters and I think that speaks for itself.

BTW I misspoke obviously Aegis Wing is not a top-down perspective, but it's clearly a 2d side view perspective which is similar.
 
Just tried the Wing Commander Arena demo, and it left a stale taste in my mouth. Actually I just found this interesting bullet on its page on xbox.com:

"The classic Wing Commander gameplay is brought to Xbox LIVE Arcade"

... what WHAT?! Are they serious? How on earth does Arena resemble the classic Wing Commander? D: Words are beyond me.
 
[quote name='porieux']I can't believe how utterly asstacular Wing Commander is. It's actually embarrassing. It's got to be one of the worst games on XBLA. A space combat game that isn't in 3D space....are you kidding me??[/quote]
At first I thought I didn't understand the controls, but yeah. They should have at least made it a Star Foxish64 multiplayer style game.
 
I didn't hate the demo as much as some, but it does control very strangely. It looks like a space shooter, but feels like hockey with guns and shields. It's just weird and strangely unsatisfying in the demo. Maybe it's awesome in MP mode. Anyway, I'm going to confirn the half-priced point thing before I downoad this one.
 
I'm probably not going to buy it, but my boys actually enjoyed the Wing Commander demo quite a bit tonight. I was surprised, especially since my younger one said he didn't want to play some stupid "plane" game :lol:. My older one did ask why he couldn't go up and down though!

And yes, the controls are very odd with the ability to reverse by pulling back on the stick. It works in an odd sort of way, but just feels off. I could see, possibly, how it might be fun with 16 players though.
 
[quote name='akilshohen']the duel mode sounds intresting, but not worth the $10. These points are burning a hole in my pocket[/QUOTE]

If I manage to snag 6 1600 points cards at half price from CC like I plan too (already got 2 of them with the intention of price matching next week) I'll have a HUGE ol' fire in my pocket ;), but I must resist and wait for later releases (Puzzle Quest and Untertow for sure, maybe Hexic 2).
 
The only thing that might be fun are cap ship battles and coordinating 16 man swarms but since they didn't put that in the demo..

The deathmatch is just weak sauce. It's pretty much hockey like the above poster said with projectiles. Just the way the game is designed nothing is really accurate and you end up with a lot of spam. Speedy fighters are at a disadvantage since flying away and healing? pretty much sucks/non existant. The more weapons you have to spam the better. Even when you kill someone/something it feels like it was accidental, involved no skill etc. I'm pretty disappointed, to me Wing Commander was more space opera than just space shoot'em up. The physics were never really there anyway. 2D cutscenes or even text story would have helped the game a lot.
 
The hockey analogy is funny, I agree. Except hockey would involve some kind of physics model whereas this has a response curve similar to the Windows95 mouse pointer..LOL..

I guess I could see how it could be fun in MP if you take it for what it is, but it just feels so unsatisfying because you are expecting a space shooter. Plus there are so many better games why bother.

Maybe that BG game will be better....
 
Damn Super Contra is still dead. I was really hoping people would buy it so that we could get a port of Contra III.

I don't know how something like Golden Axe get so many people to download it, and yet Super C gets neglected.
 
Me and my cousin bought Super Contra. He's really the only person i play it with since none of my other friends have it but if your looking to play with someone send me an invite I'm always down for it

Contra 3 on XBLA would be amazing, i dont think $5 for online co-op contra/Super Contra is a bad deal at all
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Damn Super Contra is still dead. I was really hoping people would buy it so that we could get a port of Contra III.

I don't know how something like Golden Axe get so many people to download it, and yet Super C gets neglected.[/QUOTE]

Umm, Golden Axe is fun and easy to play, whereas Super Contra is difficult and punishing. The overhead stages? Murder. I still hope we get Contra 3 like you though.
 
[quote name='Weedy649']Me and my cousin bought Super Contra. He's really the only person i play it with since none of my other friends have it but if your looking to play with someone send me an invite I'm always down for it

Contra 3 on XBLA would be amazing, i dont think $5 for online co-op contra/Super Contra is a bad deal at all[/QUOTE]


Sending you a friend request right now.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Sending you a friend request right now.[/QUOTE]

cool ill log in now to accept, gotta go to work in a bit but ill be on later tonight
 
If you guys need another person to play with on Super C, I'm on here and there. Me and this guy have been playing for a good 5+ hours together, we keep getting to the last stage but keep dying lol. I had a streak where I made it to the second to last level losing no lives, then I lost them all at the end of the stage :( Stupid aliens!
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']If you guys need another person to play with on Super C, I'm on here and there. Me and this guy have been playing for a good 5+ hours together, we keep getting to the last stage but keep dying lol. I had a streak where I made it to the second to last level losing no lives, then I lost them all at the end of the stage :( Stupid aliens![/QUOTE]

Ill send add you as well, can never have enough contra buddies. I really need to practice because right now id be dead weight for you guys since im not that great lol.

Ill take a momement to blame a little bit of it on not being comfortable with analog or d-pad, but otherwise i just need to step my game up :p
 
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