Xbox 360 - HD TV Shows & Movie Downloads Start November 22nd

[quote name='Undertaker4eber']Is it going really slow for anyone else? Like I tried downloading some of the preview clips for Conan and they wouldnt start at all. It just went really slow till it got to the progress bar and it would never go above 0%. Im hoping its just because alot of people are on.[/QUOTE]

Slow as ass for me right now. I would imagine I have to let this thing go all night.

Jeremy
 
5.85GB for a 2Hour HD movie? Is that why HD-DVD is 25GB? Hmmm....I guess no extras, not the same sound....oh well.

As for the $9 comment above...I meant to say $9 more....HD-DVD's are going for $15 with Google deals these days.
 
This thing is behaving screwy right now, an error message pops up sometimes while trying to bring up more info about a show. Also, downloading Small Arms seemed to take longer than it should as well.

Everything is slowed down right now I guess.
 
Where is the promised SuperMan Returns in HD, they said the 22nd!

Same with Matrix HD. There's no point releasing it in 480p, we all have the DVD for christsakes.
 
Ok I'm getting some "WTF?!" moments with some of these HD selections and the one's NOT offered. With the HD "V For Vendetta" and "Unforgiven" are the ONLY one's I can give much a shit about in HD for offerings.
Explain this to me. If "Clash Of the Titans" is in HD then where is "Spartacus" and "Ben Hur" on being given the same treatment. I'd also like to catch "Casablanca" in HD with how spectacular it supposedly looks.
Now as to the NON-HD selections being offered what NEEDS to be HD is THX and the Akira Kurosawa flick. Now can SOMEONE explain to me WHY "Supernatural" is not being offered in HD? Is Marc Cuban or some HD Cable channel offering it because last I checked he ONLY ran reruns of "Smallville".
P.S. WB do me a favor and give me visual oral pleasure in the way of offering "The Promise" in HD! Wuxia Fantasy flicks in HD! "Zu Warriors" and "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" but I suppose if you buy any more rights under your independent label that'll have to do.
 
[quote name='Radioactive_Man']OK so I left for work right before I left I started downloading V for Vendetta, I come back home to find out it only downloaded 5% of the movie. : |[/QUOTE]

i did the same thing only i had zero percent of the movie when i came home.. been trying to redownload but it keeps disappearing from my active downloads... this sucks.
 
[quote name='Requiem']Where is the promised SuperMan Returns in HD, they said the 22nd!
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I would be VERY surprised if the movie came out on the 22nd, since the official release date is next Tuesday.
 
[quote name='Milkyman']i did the same thing only i had zero percent of the movie when i came home.. been trying to redownload but it keeps disappearing from my active downloads... this sucks.[/QUOTE]

That happened to me an hour or two ago. Now the download is going well at 25% or so.
 
Just once I'd like to see someone launch a service that EVERYONE KNOWS is going to be hit ridiculously hard, and have it go off as planned.
 
Thanks cheapy....hmm another thing, can these things be saved to an external HDD? See that would make a TON of sense. A few episodes of CSI, and a huge chunk of your HDD is gone.

I might download some soutpark, but if I can't save these to an external usb HDD, I wont be getting much.
 
[quote name='Milkyman']anyone succesfully download a movie yet? im still at 61% of v for vendetta... my dsl isnt this slow.[/QUOTE]

I did, still haven't had a chance to watch it though.
 
I'm downloading the WoW South Park episode. I miss most T. V. shows, so this is pretty cool. $1.60 for an episode of South Park that I can watch as much as I want whenever at full video quality is good to me.

EDIT- "Can't play this content because it may not be supported." WTF? LET ME WATCH MY GOD DAMN VIDEO THAT I BOUGHT! What is wrong with this thing?

EDIT 2- Okay, it's working now. Sweet stuff.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Thanks cheapy....hmm another thing, can these things be saved to an external HDD? See that would make a TON of sense. A few episodes of CSI, and a huge chunk of your HDD is gone.

I might download some soutpark, but if I can't save these to an external usb HDD, I wont be getting much.[/QUOTE]

Uh, no, because the moment they support that, the HD videos show up on bittorent sites and bye bye xbox video marketplace.

If you buy a lot of tv shows, you will eventually run out of space. But the thing is, the tv shows are forever and ever and ever tied to your gamertag account, you own them. This means you are free to delete them and download them later if you like. This combined with the fact that you can start watching a show after it's been downloading just for a couple minutes almost eliminates the need for a huge hard drive.

Movies are a different story, they take up nearly 1/4 of your hard drive. But since they are rentals, that's not too big of a deal. (They will self delete 24 hours after you watch them)
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']This combined with the fact that you can start watching a show after it's been downloading just for a couple minutes almost eliminates the need for a huge hard drive.
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Didn't know this, it helps a little, but couldn't they make the videos coded to work only on the system they were downloaded for/gamertag? And THEN make it so it can be saved on a USB HDD?
 
Downloaded two things so far. A Hogan Knows Best episode that took 4 hours, and a Space Ghost C2C episode (the 22 minute one, so it was similar length to my first download). The Space Ghost episode started off quick, but once it got around 55% it started going turtle speed again. Took about 2 hours total.

Both files were around 250 MB.
 
[quote name='Requiem']Where is the promised SuperMan Returns in HD, they said the 22nd![/QUOTE]

I thought it was coming December 22nd?
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Didn't know this, it helps a little, but couldn't they make the videos coded to work only on the system they were downloaded for/gamertag? And THEN make it so it can be saved on a USB HDD?[/QUOTE]

Probably, maybe. I'm not sure. I'm sure if there was a way they could, they would, or maybe they are working on it.

I know there is a kit out there you can buy that sits on your xbox that your hard xbox hard drive plugs into, that lets you 'intercept' everything sent to the hard drive. But I am sure it wouldn't just be immediately accessible on your computer even if you retrieved the WMV's, there is no way (yet) that I know of to scrub off the DRM from the files.

In a way, I sympathize with microsoft, since part of the legal requirements from these studios is to have a certain level of DRM before they'll let their material be put on live. However, they still could make a larger hard drive, and I am sure if this download service becomes popular they will.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I thought it was coming December 22nd?[/QUOTE]

Negative - the Superman Returns HD-DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD, Superman Box Set, Superman II Donner Cut HD-DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD, Superman HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, history of Superman DVD, Superman lunchbox, Superman toothpaste, Superman nose clippers, and Superman douche all come out this week.

Maybe MS is waiting until tomorrow to put it up? This would probably be the first (and for now, only) movie I download from the service.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Negative - the Superman Returns HD-DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD, Superman Box Set, Superman II Donner Cut HD-DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD, Superman HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, history of Superman DVD, Superman lunchbox, Superman toothpaste, Superman nose clippers, and Superman douche all come out this week.

Maybe MS is waiting until tomorrow to put it up? This would probably be the first (and for now, only) movie I download from the service.[/QUOTE]

Are you positive? I was sure that during that Warner Bros. teaser they put up on the XBLM it listed Superman Returns as a December 22nd release.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Are you positive? I was sure that during that Warner Bros. teaser they put up on the XBLM it listed Superman Returns as a December 22nd release.[/quote]

DVD Aficionado has them listed for November 28th.
 
Wow, a 5 minute Chris Leben vs. Anderson Silva UFC fight costs the exact same amount as the 22 minute Karo Parisian vs. Diego Sanchez fight. That's crazy, I really hope no one is stupid enough to pay $4.00 to watch a five minute fight. Actually, the fight isn't even five minutes, it's about one minute, the other four are just announcments. So basically, you're paying almost $5.00 to watch a highlight clip.

Also, Microsoft really need to get some good Zune to 360 connectivity action going here... then maybe this would be worth looking at.... maybe. Considering there is no simple, or offical way to even put videos on the Zune yet, it would be really nice if the stuff you buy in the XBLM could be transfered to your Zune.

By the way I downloaded the Karo vs. Diego fight... it took 12 hours for 997mb. Insane.
 
I have to say this coudl be an extremely promising service, but right now it's complete shit.

-It's too much money.
-Downloads take way too long.
-There shouldn't be "rentals," Microsoft needs to support external hard-drives or come out with a much larger one of their own for the 360, and let us actually own these movies.
-A 2 minute fight should not cost the same amount of money as a 30 minute TV show.
-Waaaaay more stuff needs to be in HD, if not everything. Excluding the obvious TV shows that aren't made in HD.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I have to say this coudl be an extremely promising service, but right now it's complete shit.

-It's too much money.
-Downloads take way too long.
-There shouldn't be "rentals," Microsoft needs to support external hard-drives or come out with a much larger one of their own for the 360, and let us actually own these movies.
-A 2 minute fight should not cost the same amount of money as a 30 minute TV show.
-Waaaaay more stuff needs to be in HD, if not everything. Excluding the obvious TV shows that aren't made in HD.[/QUOTE]


I agree with you on every single point.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I have to say this coudl be an extremely promising service, but right now it's complete shit.

-It's too much money.[/quote]
What is too much money? Movie rentals? TV purchases? Be more specific. Are you basically saying you want everything to be 15 cents?
-Downloads take way too long.
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Visit major nelsons website. They know they got hit harder than expected and are working on it. Their goal is for your connection to the internet to be the bottlneck, not them. Checking earlier today, it was already 10x faster for me. This is actually good news, I feel. Showing the networks and studios that are still in negotiation "Hey look how much people like our service and how much their spending"
-There shouldn't be "rentals," Microsoft needs to support external hard-drives or come out with a much larger one of their own for the 360, and let us actually own these movies.
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This is where you are dreaming. You people that feel this way need to step back and realize this: Microsoft has been working for well over a year, with a warehouse full of lawyers with these Studios/Networks to get this content. Part of what takes so damn long is Microsoft proving to these content providers that THEIR customers (Networks/Studios)intellectual property is secure and can't be compromised easily. Drilling further down, part of that is not allowing users to grab a WMV file to put on their own storage and trade with their friends and experiment with hacking it. So if Microsoft suddenly granted your wish of storing movies on anything you wanted, they'd breach billions of dollars in contracts. Just accept that. It isn't Microsoft limiting you, it's the content providers and their demands.

Oh and the main reason you can't keep movies is cost. Do you realize the MSRP set by studios for a movie is around $25-$30? That would mean that's how much you'd pay if you want to keep your 6 gig movie. I think MS is smart enough to know that most people would say "no thanks".
-A 2 minute fight should not cost the same amount of money as a 30 minute TV show.
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I agree, sort of. But you can't blame Microsoft for this, this is how media has always been. If you want to start bitching about this then maybe we should first tackle why CD's with 30 minutes of music cost the same as CD's with 70 minutes of music. Why do DVD movies that are only 80 minutes long cost the same as a 3 hour DVD?

So until all Media everywhere starts being sold like gas at the gas pump, this is reality.
-Waaaaay more stuff needs to be in HD, if not everything. Excluding the obvious TV shows that aren't made in HD.
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I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows this. Keep in mind the service has been up for 4 days. They have already added more. Do you honestly think the decision makers sat in in office and said "Well shit, let's just give them 4 or 5 things to download in HD, the rest will be fine in SD". No. Actually the legal contracts are far different and more complicated for HD content. If they weren't, you'd have seen Itunes selling HD tv shows 2 years ago. Give MS some time, let their legion of lawyers work, and I bet this service increases in quality immensely even by summer. The sad thing is, they will have at least a year jump start on Sony's similar service.
 
so far the only thing I've downloaded was the "300" trailer that I've been trying to find in WMV format forever just so I could play it wirelessly on my 360, but now I don't have to.
 
I purchased the south park season 10 World of Warcraft episode. Download only took 15 minutes (ish) and the quality was really good. So far the service seems good. I might purchase some more TV shows since you can keep them.

Also that episode is hilarious.
 
Damn it to hell. Everything I want to buy on the service says it's "unavailable". Day Break specifically. I notice Conan has nothing too.

I really hate how they put shows up to select but then tell you that there is nothing at this time to download. Just don't put it up at all then!
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']What is too much money? Movie rentals? TV purchases? Be more specific. Are you basically saying you want everything to be 15 cents?

Visit major nelsons website. They know they got hit harder than expected and are working on it. Their goal is for your connection to the internet to be the bottlneck, not them. Checking earlier today, it was already 10x faster for me. This is actually good news, I feel. Showing the networks and studios that are still in negotiation "Hey look how much people like our service and how much their spending"

This is where you are dreaming. You people that feel this way need to step back and realize this: Microsoft has been working for well over a year, with a warehouse full of lawyers with these Studios/Networks to get this content. Part of what takes so damn long is Microsoft proving to these content providers that THEIR customers (Networks/Studios)intellectual property is secure and can't be compromised easily. Drilling further down, part of that is not allowing users to grab a WMV file to put on their own storage and trade with their friends and experiment with hacking it. So if Microsoft suddenly granted your wish of storing movies on anything you wanted, they'd breach billions of dollars in contracts. Just accept that. It isn't Microsoft limiting you, it's the content providers and their demands.

Oh and the main reason you can't keep movies is cost. Do you realize the MSRP set by studios for a movie is around $25-$30? That would mean that's how much you'd pay if you want to keep your 6 gig movie. I think MS is smart enough to know that most people would say "no thanks".

I agree, sort of. But you can't blame Microsoft for this, this is how media has always been. If you want to start bitching about this then maybe we should first tackle why CD's with 30 minutes of music cost the same as CD's with 70 minutes of music. Why do DVD movies that are only 80 minutes long cost the same as a 3 hour DVD?

So until all Media everywhere starts being sold like gas at the gas pump, this is reality.

I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows this. Keep in mind the service has been up for 4 days. They have already added more. Do you honestly think the decision makers sat in in office and said "Well shit, let's just give them 4 or 5 things to download in HD, the rest will be fine in SD". No. Actually the legal contracts are far different and more complicated for HD content. If they weren't, you'd have seen Itunes selling HD tv shows 2 years ago. Give MS some time, let their legion of lawyers work, and I bet this service increases in quality immensely even by summer. The sad thing is, they will have at least a year jump start on Sony's similar service.[/QUOTE]

First you're full of shit about the HD movie ownage. If the studio's put out full editions instead of this play games halfassed shit then they wouldn't have to worry much about cheaper sales from OWNED movies on XBL because some of the DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray content would make it desirable to buy. If it isn't, the studios should ask themselves WHY it's not selling with extras like "Is this something I give a shit about watching?". Just ask themselves that question.
I mean if WB or Miramax would off a Wuxia Fantasy movie in HD for ownage I'd immediately bite. Btw Wuxia means Martial Arts in Chinese and I'm talking about movies like "The Promise". I wanted to say "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" and "House Of Flying Daggers" but I know Sony owns the rights to the latter here and I think they own the rights to the former too. Oh and PLEASE don't tell me about "House Of Flying Daggers" on Blu-Ray because I read the quality varies all over and I'm actually surprised most of it doesn't look like a piece of shit since to my knowledge it's a first generation Blu-Ray with MPEG2 encoding on a single layer disc.
On some more info with HD and SD shows wtf is South Park's "Passion Of the Jew"?! I got on immediately hoping to download it and found it wasn't available. As for HD why doesn't MS just make a huge deal with MBC to have all their series shot in HD available as well as some of their concerts to people like me who are interested. Also I think following the same for SBS and KBS would be a good idea. Oh and in the end make sure they have the HD versions exclusively.
For people who don't know MBC, SBS and KBS are all Korean channels, at least two of which I'm pretty sure have HD channels and some good shows so I think it would be a great idea. If they don't do this but do it for Korea I'll FIND a way to download them off XBL regardless since it's going to take who knows how long to get to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and as it stands almost NO TV shows are available on either except for Soprano's coming and most of the shit I want is Showtime programming like "Dead Like Me", "Weeds" and "Huff" to list a few.
Also to mention some additional stuff, am I the only one who wouldn't mind buying some "Newsradio" episodes off XBL?
 
[quote name='Sarang01']First you're full of shit about the HD movie ownage. If the studio's put out full editions instead of this play games halfassed shit then they wouldn't have to worry much about cheaper sales from OWNED movies on XBL because some of the DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray content would make it desirable to buy. If it isn't, the studios should ask themselves WHY it's not selling with extras like "Is this something I give a shit about watching?". Just ask themselves that question.[/QUOTE]

The studios set the prices of full movies if they were to be on XBL. The MSRP of DVD's you buy in the store are almost always a lot higher than what you pay, because the store usually sets a lower price. So you are saying that you would pay more $ to get it on Live than buy the disk in a store? If so, I think you are in a minority.

I have nothing to say to the rest of your post, as it didn't make a lot of sense to me.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']The studios set the prices of full movies if they were to be on XBL. The MSRP of DVD's you buy in the store are almost always a lot higher than what you pay, because the store usually sets a lower price. So you are saying that you would pay more $ to get it on Live than buy the disk in a store? If so, I think you are in a minority.

I have nothing to say to the rest of your post, as it didn't make a lot of sense to me.[/QUOTE]

I think what he meant by full releases was the fact that most hd-dvd and blu-ray releases right now have no extras, or fewer extras compared to their standard definition versions.

as far as the rest of sarang's comments, i would love to have access to international content in hd, especially korean music videos!
 
[quote name='Milkyman']I think what he meant by full releases was the fact that most hd-dvd and blu-ray releases right now have no extras, or fewer extras compared to their standard definition versions.

as far as the rest of sarang's comments, i would love to have access to international content in hd, especially korean music videos![/QUOTE]

I had no idea he meant that. If so, I'm not real sure how a direct-download movie could have extra content, but I am sure it's possible.

I'd love international releases but I fear that's a ways off.
 
What I meant is that I think the movies, HD and SD, should NOT expire and be cheaper than their HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and DVD counterparts since they have NO extras. If they're worried about losing money from making those cheaper than their concrete counterparts then maybe they should put extras on the discs making them WORTH purchasing. You get as much out as you put in and this is why if a barebones DVD sells less than the direct download expect that since most people don't give a rats ass about one trailer included on the disc as well as a 5.1 audio track and some other alternate language tracks as well.
I also mentioned the Korean content channelwise because I get the impression a LOT of their content is being filmed in HD, especially their big name Drama's and since I'm a fan and can find NO way to receive them in the U.S. other than grabbing off a bittorrent this would be a WELCOME thing especially since I prefer most Korean Drama's to what's airing in our Primetime now unless it's on a Pay channel.
edit: Btw in terms of ABC stuff being offered they really should offer more since I think now most of their stuff is being filmed in HD, ESPN, ESPN2 and The Disney Channel. I don't know about Lifetime but that might be the case too. The only thing I can think is maybe they have a deal with Sony and their download service since I don't remember "Lost" being offered on XBL.
 
So I noticed they took Daybreak off now. Anyone know when it's getting put back up. I'd really like a website dedicated to what is available, and when stuff is added, if anyone knows of one. (I can't see anything on Xbox.com)
 
after messing around with the movie/show downloads a little bit i have mixed feelings

I think 240 or whatever the cheaper movies are is not a bad price, but i think that it is lame to pay more for new releases, and then pay more for the HD version, it should all be one price like blockbuster. I am also not liking the fact that you cant keep them (or have an option to pay more maybe to keep them) which is what many services such as "on-demand" or other cable/satelite services do, so i know it can be done as far as the media rights.

Overall however it is very convenient, i can download the movie i feel like watching RIGHT then, i dont have to leave the house, and it is ready in about 2 minutes (to start watching).

They definatly need to step up the library, at least weekly like blockbuster does because it cannot be too dificult to up load them, and the usage rights wont be hard after dealing with the same companies ect.

The TV shows definatly cannot cost at much as they do if they want people to buy them (at least me) i could understand if you got a whole season of a show (like you would at a rental store) for the price of a full length movie, but per show is insane.

I think it was a good start, but needs a lot of improving before i will be an avid purchaser, because right now i can do pretty much the same thing with my cables ON-DEMAND for a bit cheaper...
 
[quote name='D4rkN1ght']
The TV shows definably cannot cost at much as they do if they want people to buy them (at least me) i could understand if you got a whole season of a show (like you would at a rental store) for the price of a full length movie, but per show is insane.
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The difference is that you get to keep the TV shows forever, instead of renting them like the movies.
 
[quote name='zewone']The difference is that you get to keep the TV shows forever, instead of renting them like the movies.[/QUOTE]

oh i didnt know that, they should still offer a package deal, but thanks for correcting me for the 2nd time in less then a minute
 
I think I may have asked this before, but I feel like asking again, so sue me.

Does anyone know of a website dedicated to tracking changes on the video marketplace, as well as news about it? I have a feeling majornelson has not/is not announcing every little video they add.
 
This service is reminding me that Space Ghost C2C is the most wonderfully screwy show in existence. I love it.

[quote name='thrustbucket']
Does anyone know of a website dedicated to tracking changes on the video marketplace, as well as news about it? I have a feeling majornelson has not/is not announcing every little video they add.[/QUOTE]

I don't think there is anything like that yet. People are definitely bitching about it, we'll probably see something before too long.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Does anyone know of a website dedicated to tracking changes on the video marketplace, as well as news about it? I have a feeling majornelson has not/is not announcing every little video they add.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking about starting up a site to do this. It would be fairly simple to keep up after the initial set up.

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I love the video marketplace so far.

Overall I bought a 60 minute best of Celebrity Deathmatch for 160 points, currently downloading A Clockwork Orange (been wanting to see it for awhile now and Blockbuster Online has it on Very Long Wait) and as soon as my VGA cables come in I'll be getting Swordfish in HD (Hallie Berry's titties/exploding marble scene in HD :drool: )
 
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