[quote name='marioman']The xbox deal is terrible compared to the Sony deal and the xbox in general is just over priced as hell right now. Anyone care to explain why a PS3 w/ about the same hd space is 50 dollars CHEAPER than an xbox AND includes a blu ray player? On top of that m$ bundles two old games that are worth not even $20 each with their black friday bundle while sony throws out two high quality more valuable titles and even more extras?
The reason this frustrates me so much is that my xbox just broke (surprise surprise) and I am in need of a new one but the thing is just WAY over priced for what you get/compared to the competition. Hell the 360 is like 6 years old now and at LAUNCH it was purchasable for $300 (I realize w/o all the HD space but the point remains).. thats a

ing joke that it still fetches that for such old
hardware with no improvements other than nothing breaking as easy (which shouldn't have been a problem in the first place).
I am no fan boy, 360 is my favorite system, but i am frustrated by their greed.[/QUOTE]
no, you're clearly a fanboy who has their panties in a bunch. do you even play video games? xbox was redesigned, its much smaller, cooler, more reliable, bigger HD.
i find it laughable you consider bundle items to be considered in the decision of whats "overpriced". most people don't use up all 250gb of the hard drive, so an extra 50 isn't a dealbreaker. PSN blows, lacks cross game chat,etc. the controller sucks too, not even remotely as ergonomic and comfortable as the xbox one. better Controller + xbox live being more popular in america = winning.
i've yet to hear of any slims breaking...
how are you defining high quality? lol. bundle seems to be aimed at children, LBP2 is a love it or hate it game. halo reach is a popular shooter right now that most people probably want. Fable 3 is more for the rpg crowd(non shooter, etc). fwiw, both xbox games are one year old, which is not what you'd typically call old games.