I think I am still trying to figure out in this entire grand scheme of conversation going on as to why there is a necessity to have this differentiation other than trying to belittle other people for their hobbies just because it's not something you would do.
I'm sure we can all agree that you think very highly of yourself as a gamer, and that view also applies to Zaku as you have so poignantly noted, but there is also confusion as to what kind of a scale you have decided to use in gauging what a person who collects, and a person who plays a lot of games are valued at.
You make an interesting argument in the sense that you have talked to a lot of people about video games and they lie to you about completing games or not, and I guess it's one of your pet peeves, but does that mean people who don't constantly post videos about what they've played, or what they've picked up and give full on explanations about their pick ups (no offense Zaku) are the only people who are allowed to be believed on the internet of all places, and that everybody else who holds a collection is just lying their asses off because they don't have their own youtube channel, or constantly talk about games, or play it every moment of their lives?
In response to people being collectors first over being a gamer I guess I am still struggling with the concept that if they are a collector first and a gamer second, so doesn't that still make them a gamer? I still don't understand what you designate as a gamer, and what you designate as a collector. So people who have sealed items are considered collectors, but people who don't are gamers. So by that logic if somebody who collects games, but are cheap ass gamers (see what I did there?) and only buy games that are used, but never play any of the games, and yet they still post pictures of their collections, and everything is not sealed then that makes them "hardcore" gamers because nothing is sealed in those pictures. So then they can decide to start making videos of themselves about what they thought about a game, and because it is just so hard to find sources on the internet nowadays that can tell you everything about a game, make a video that is 100% truthful, and you will take their word for it because you watched it on youtube, and everything on youtube has to be real.
There appears to be a discrepancy between what you believe to be a gamer, and what everybody else believes to be a gamer, but the issue here that is still at hand is that you don't believe anybody else is a gamer unless they game as much as you or Zaku. I hear the words "hardcore gamer" thrown around a lot when you talk about gamers, but I honestly don't think you understand that there are variations in levels of gamers just as there are variations in levels of collectors, and that you don't seem to acknowledge that at all in any of the points you have made other than there are only "hardcore" gamers, or nothing at all. Why do people have to be an anything first, and something second? Some people may just have more disposable income to spend on games, and in order to gain that disposable income there has to be an amount of time distributed contributed to gain that income. You mainly just made the case between gamer and collector, and denied the thought of anybody else being a gamer unless they are "hardcore", or else they are just a collector.
Maybe there aren't as many "hardcore" gamers as you would like, and I will gladly say that I am not a "hardcore" gamer if that is how it's being gauged, but I don't really think I have a problem with that, and I can definitely live with it if that's what is required to become one. I fully congratulate your effort and time you have spent in becoming a "hardcore" gamer, and I don't look up to or down on you for it. It's your preference, and that's great. I just don't understand where the self-entitlement comes from where you feel the need to have the final word on whether or not a person is a gamer or not just because they aren't just like you.
It's great you found somebody just like you, that's the wonder of social media at its best, but it's disconcerting that it makes it so you feel obligated to have to rain down on other people's parade simply for the fact you don't share their view. I understand it's the internet, and it's an open forum, so everything is open for discussion. Not going to say you don't have a right to do that because you do. I am just simply wondering why these types of conversations can't be more of an argument, rather than just a tactless back and forth with one another, and eventually turning into a match between who can troll the hardest.
This seems like a fun argument to have, but a discussion can't be had unless there is a goal at hand. Otherwise it's just a bunch of malarkey about gamers alike. I guess I am still struggling in the end as to what the goal of anything you have to say is supposed to achieve, which is probably why most people are having a hard time trying to converse with you on the subject. Just a thought, but I have to say this whole conversation has spiraled way out of control from whence it began.
Anyways, just wanted to let you know what I was thinking. I'm tired, so good night.
just need better shelves
I guess the difference is I collect games too I just also play them.
