Your reasons why this generation of game consoles will be your last........

I won't disagree with you that there are many faults with the next gen systems and the games that come out for them.

But I will disagree that gaming has become more expensive. Coming from the 2600 days I can tell you that games were $89.99 at launch. For XMAS I rec'd two games from my generous parents (Popeye and DigDug :) )Now scale that for inflation ... what $120 or so... a GAME? The NES was around $250/300 at launch. I bought that with a summers worth of savings. Well more than the cost of a Wii!!

I find, these days, that with the proliferation and penetration of games in the mainstream I find way more deals than I did back in "fringe-trader/schoolyard trades" day. When everything was on carts, you just didn't see as many sales and deals, plain and simple.

Furthermore, Nintendo used to be a strong-armed bitch back in the day -- initiating shady (questionably legal) practices such as not allowing you to returned even unopened games (for a time) at retailers. As some of the other posters pointed out, often popular games would retail for $69.99... That was like $100 f'ing bucks in early 90's!!!

There's always going to be a lot of good and a lot of bad in a developing industry. I don't think it's as bad, comparably, as you make it sound. Maybe you're younger, but you seem to overlook a lot of the past bullshit us older gamers had to deal with.
 
[quote name='coltyhuxx']
There's always going to be a lot of good and a lot of bad in a developing industry. I don't think it's as bad, comparably, as you make it sound. Maybe you're younger, but you seem to overlook a lot of the past bullshit us older gamers had to deal with.[/quote]Older is an extremely relative term. I'm 26, but I didn't buy many games as a kid - either I rented, or I got gifts, as I'm sure most people did when they were 10. All most of us have for comparison from a consumer standpoint is last generation, and this generation. I hope no one's arguing that it has not gotten more expensive from 5 years ago to today.
 
I have less and less time to play games so this could be the beginning of the end. I still have my old xbox. I wanted to buy a 360 but my level of enthusiam is wanning...
 
Now that i'm older and i have a house, i dont have the time nor the money for gaming. It always seems like i'm fixing something up on my house and i feel like playing a game is a waste of time. I have plenty of unplayed last gen games but I just cant get motivated anymore.
 
[quote name='botticus']Older is an extremely relative term. I'm 26, but I didn't buy many games as a kid - either I rented, or I got gifts, as I'm sure most people did when they were 10. All most of us have for comparison from a consumer standpoint is last generation, and this generation. I hope no one's arguing that it has not gotten more expensive from 5 years ago to today.[/quote]

I've been there since the very beginning (albeit a very *young* consumer ;) ) so I feel compelled to chime in whenver this topic comes up. I sometimes talk with my friends about how we were the very first batch of gamers, and also, really the first batch of aging gamers (less cool).

I think we served to help answer the first questions of "well, is this a kid's hobby or not? will they grow out of it?" the answer, for many, obviously being, "no."

Jesus, now I feel all old and shit. Thanks, Botticus!!

he he.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Games will ship with bugs, yes, but the ability to patch and lax QA are positively correlated. When you only have one shot, you try to get it right just a little more.

Having the storage capacity necessary for patches opens the door for enough space to sell you the disease that is DLC.

This internet calculator tells me that the copy of Wild Arms 3 that I bought for $5 last week wouldve cost $3.91 ten years ago. How much were SNES and 64 cartridges?[/quote]

^ if this tool agree's with the OP than I am sure I can save my eyesight for something more pertinent.
 
[quote name='Maynard']^ if this tool agree's with the OP than I am sure I can save my eyesight for something more pertinent.[/QUOTE]

Calm down there, Moby! Sing yourself some uplifting song about people being stars!
 
I will probably always buy new consoles... especially now that I have kids who will (hopefully) get into video games. I can see the PS3 and 360 generation lasting twice as long as generations past though since they have been very slow out of the gate, they are very powerful systems and it takes a while to max out system specs. It wouldn't surprise me if in 4 years there is a "new" Nintendo console (to get on a level playing field, tech-wise) but nothing on the horizon for either Sony or Microsoft.
 
I felt this way at the PS3 launch as I won't spend more than $300 for a console and, at the time, PS3 was going to be the next big thing. I just kind of felt that I was being priced out of the market. Thankfully the Wii was a hit and I have gotten a ton of enjoyment out of that purchase so far.

What is going to keep me into gaming is now my kids (3 and 2 years old) are really starting to get into playing games like Mario Kart:DD, Monkey Ball, Pac-Man, and the Dora the Explorer GC game (which my 3 year old finished last weekend).

While I want a 360, between the DS, Wii/GC, and spending most of my gaming time with the kids. I am just not motivated to drop the $$.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I will probably always buy new consoles... especially now that I have kids who will (hopefully) get into video games. I can see the PS3 and 360 generation lasting twice as long as generations past though since they have been very slow out of the gate, they are very powerful systems and it takes a while to max out system specs. It wouldn't surprise me if in 4 years there is a "new" Nintendo console (to get on a level playing field, tech-wise) but nothing on the horizon for either Sony or Microsoft.[/quote]

You can force your kids to like anything that you like. That's the whole point, to my limited understanding.

You can create your own little video game Beethoven or Joe Montana. Break out the reeds!
 
I won't be out until PlayStation is no longer there. ;)

J/K

Anyway, I like gaming, but my urge to play games has decreased a little. Don't tell me why, it could be that I would game too much and have very little (or next to none) socializing in my life. Along with my life being a wreck right now in college, I barely feel like playing. When stuff gets back together, I'll probably get back into it more.

I still play games, but not as crazy as before. I want to discuss more in this thread, but maybe later.
 
Pyrogamer - These are just my opinions on the current state of the gaming industry. Some people may agree with them or others may say I am way off base. However I have been buying and playing games since the 2600 so I would like to think I am at least somewhat qualified to give my opinion. I am not about to fall into your flamewar by taking your flamebait posts seriously. You could not have chosen your username more appropriately.
 
I don't know if this was mentioned yet, but I think part of the problem is that developers and hardware companies gave up on this generation too early. XBox and Gamecube are all but dead (save for the occasional movie game or sports game) and those 2 systems along with the PS2 could have survived at least a few more years. I'm content with the graphics on those systems and feel they could have pushed those systems even further.
 
A few more thoughts:


Game magazines are almost extinct -- I know a lot of people will probably disagree with this one. Sure we have the internet for free so why would you want a magazine that comes outdated every month by the time it gets to you? The answer for me is the magazine is permanent. There will be no server going ever for a magazine. I have a pretty large collection of game magazines I pull out from time to time and flip through. I have Nintendo power going all the way back to the beginning when it didn't suck. I have strategies and maps for these games going back to Mario 2. If I get the itch to play these games I have to just walk downstairs and pull out my Nintendo power that covers that game. This would prove to be invaluable for playing games on the Virtual console. Sure I could use Gamefaqs. But I would rather have full color maps, illustrations, pictures and writing that is done by people that have at least high school education and can write. I like being able to grab and EGM off my shelf in the morning and thumb through it while I am having my breakfast. And the fact that I own that media permanently makes all the difference. I was pretty dissapointed when my favorite game website Dailyradar.com went under in 2000. All my favorite articles and features were suddenly gone, never to be seen again. I even saved a few of my favorite articles onto a cd. Years later went I went to look at the articles the cd had corrupted and would not play. There are only a handful of game mags still around. OPM died. Gamenow dissapeared. GMR didn't last long at all. Ziff Davis has revealed they are in huge financial trouble. The writing is on the wall for game magazines.

I like to actually own the disc or cart -- There is something to be said about the simplicity of having a game on your hard drive. All I have to do is fire up my Xbox and I can play any arcade game I have on there without going downstairs to the dungeon and thumbing through my piles of Xbox games (Shipwreck I am looking at you). That being said when you gain something you also lose something. Like many I am not on my first Xbox 360. Sure I was able to redownload my games no problem onto my new hard drive. However now because of DRM restrictions I must be connected to Xbox Live to play my arcade games. Usually this is not a problem however there are times when I am not connected to Live. Such times include when I am at my mother in law's house who still has wretched dial up, when Xbox Live is down for maintenance, or when my wireless connection is being a bitch again. It is in these times that I loathe the hard drive because I cannot play my downloaded games even though I paid good money for them (in some cases more than they are worth; see the $20 Sega Genesis collection on PS2 for examples) and to me that sucks. Does Apple make me have to have my ipod connected to the internet to listen to songs? In the days before the D/L if you had the disc or cart, you were golden, you could play forever provided your system didn't break down. Now you are at the mercy of the console maker. What if your hard drive dies 20 years from now. Will you be able to redownload the games? Will Microsoft still be making game consoles even or still have Xbox live? All I know is if I want to pull out Super Mario Bros and play it on my system as long as I keep it in great shape I can play it now or 20 years from now. The game companies are simply getting their feet wet on downloadable games this generation but by the time the next gen rolls around the downloadable games will be the standard. And lets not forget that so far downloadable games do not go "Greatest Hits".

Where have all the good deals gone? -- I don't know how you feel but for me it is getting harder and harder to find good deals on games. Bestbuy stopped doing their loss leader games a few years ago. Remember when Bestbuy would have like one really good game in their ad for like $10? Those days are gone. Remember waking up early to check the ebgames.com new good and sometimes rare games in stock for you to frantically order? Gone. Remember when you could get an EB discount card for $5? See ya. Remember the $5 off GGC from Bestbuy that served us so well? Outta here. And the penny guides? Those days are pretty much over, just check the penny guide forum. What about the Circuit City clearance every summer? In 2004 games were $5. In 2005 they were $10. In 2006 most were more than that. Now we get some random drops down to $16.96 and all the good games sell out at that price. How many of you were even able to find ONE copy of Metal Gear Portable ops when it dropped this month? It even goes deeper than retail. Pawn shops (the few you can find who weren't replaced by a payday cash loan place) and garage sale moms have gotten hip to ebay. Now any asshole with an ebay account can take a 5 second search to see that the copy of Dragon Warrior 4 that you were going to sell for $5 should really be going for $50. I have now noticed that pawn shops that used to price all games the same are now pricing each game individually. Yep truly the good old days of deals seem to be gone.
 
[quote name='Strell']Calm down there, Moby! Sing yourself some uplifting song about people being stars![/quote]

Nice try witmaster that is Maynard lead singer of Tool.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']my answer: the OP is venting.[/QUOTE]
Not so much a vent as it is an exhaust port. I love it.

Why any CAG would stop with any generation of consoles is beyond me. I may lag further behind in adopting future consoles, but I'll get there eventually. (Such is the case, I think, with the PS3. I'm not crazy about it, but MGS4 beckons. I will eventually succumb.)
 
I'm loving this generation but I don't see how it can get much better. It won't be my last but I don't think I'll still be an Enthusiastic Ass Gamer for much longer.
 
[quote name='botticus']Can we get a list of these supposed common $60-$70 games? The listings in IGN only put RPGs up in that range in the SNES era. Everything else was much lower.[/QUOTE]Others have already thrown in their two cents, but I'd just like to add that I distinctly recall the Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, and NBA Jam SNES games all being $70 at launch. And in that small group alone, you have several examples of game "upgrades" being issued at full price (MK3 to UMK3, SFII/SFII Turbo/SSFII, etc.). It was pretty harsh!
 
Ok OP, you are going off topic in your own thread. Those are lots of issues you have. But to address the magazine issue, it not just gaming magazine, I feel that getting news and information from newspapers and magazines is going to go away eventually.
 
Why the hell would you stop playing games? In two more generations (14 more years) or so the graphics will be maxed out. Then the industry will reinvent itself again.
 
although i agree with many of your points OP, i think that the good things about the next gen consoles far out weight all the bad. your focusing on all the bad things, and not even mentioning the cool new things that are happening
 
OP,

You bring up some good points. I have said for a long time that I feel as if console design is going backwards. It's hard though because even though I like having the psychical media there is something to say about the convenience of having the games on a hard drive. I do however wonder if my downloaded Starfox 64 will outlast my N64 and cartridge.

I have a Wii and a 360 but I had a ton of Gamestop credit from the last K-Mart clearance + GS trade in 3 and get $10 extra deal. I probably got my Wii and 360 for about half the cost if not less. I however waited on most of the games I have bought for sales. I got Gears for like $38 at Target and I got Spider-Man 3 and M:UA at the B1G1 @ TRU on select Activision games. As of right now I have 4 Wii games and 3 360 games. I'm trying to be more selective. I bought some XBOX games I never played (didn't have an XBOX) for next to nothing.

I'm also no longer in a rush. I think Gears and Zelda TP were the last few games I had to have early on but for the most part I don't have the time to play them when I first get them anyway. I just started playing Ratchet and Clank on the PS2 (YES THE FIRST ONE!) and it's still a great game. So even if I'm a few years behind when I get a PS3 it doesn't bother me. I have so much to play as it is. Shit, the latest CAGcast revealed that Cheapy's never played Mario64 and when I played through it on the DS I thought I was one of the last to play it.

I don't think I could ever completely give up gaming but there are times where I feel like I have enough games to last me quite awhile especially with less play time. Just be selective and stick with what you like.

P.S. - Gamestop sucks!
 
personally i can't wait to get into this generation. coming from PC gaming i am a graphics whore and now that the 360 and PS3 can crank out comparable stuff i'm itching to get the HDTV + Nextgen system train rolling :D

as far as people bemoaning the general decline in quality, i think it's just nostalgia talking. i'm looking forward to the future of gaming. reading hte bioshock review alone made me want to get a 360 on the spot!
 
[quote name='tehweezner']personally i can't wait to get into this generation. coming from PC gaming i am a graphics whore and now that the 360 and PS3 can crank out comparable stuff i'm itching to get the HDTV + Nextgen system train rolling :D

as far as people bemoaning the general decline in quality, i think it's just nostalgia talking. i'm looking forward to the future of gaming. reading hte bioshock review alone made me want to get a 360 on the spot![/QUOTE]

I thought about nostalgia being the reason, and I don't think that's it. I looked at the number of games I've bought and kept in 2007 and 2006 compared to 2005 (the last year I really thought the games coming out were great), and I've been buying a hell of a lot less stuff. Between a lack of polish and a lack of game design, I'm really struggling to find stuff I like on the 360 and PS3 and I haven't had this problem since... maybe early 2001? Even then, the problem didn't last for this long. Sigh...
 
The industry is now making games shorter because people cry about not having enough time to play the games, they flat out said they've been trying to make games for the busy person. In the end they are just making the game shorter and charging more than the previous generation of games. Gears of War for example had way too short of a story mode, it lacked depth and just flat out sucked. I hardly learned anything from the story. If the story mode was better it could have been even better than it was.
 
[quote name='P.I.Staker']The industry is now making games shorter because people cry about not having enough time to play the games, they flat out said they've been trying to make games for the busy person. In the end they are just making the game shorter and charging more than the previous generation of games. Gears of War for example had way too short of a story mode, it lacked depth and just flat out sucked. I hardly learned anything from the story. If the story mode was better it could have been even better than it was.[/QUOTE]No, they make games shorter because a majority of the time is now spent online. I know I sure as hell didn't play the campaign for Gears or Halo, and none of my buddies could tell you the plots of either of those.

And anybody who bitches about the old days being cheap needs to shut the fuck up if they need to use IGN as a price guide. My step dad still nags me to this day about the $65 I owe him for buying me Spiderman Seperation Anxiety for the SNES at Walmart years ago. When Nintendo charged $65 for Super Smash Bros and their N64 games, Sony spoiled us with their cheap CD-based games, and the last generation just continued it.
 
Yeah, games were expensive back in the cartridge days. We get it. But what about from around 1998-2005 when the most you'd pay for a game was $50 (barring Collector's Editions?) Hell, we were sorta shifting towards a $40 price point with PS2 games for a while there.
 
This won't be my last gen, but I am going to slow down. I'm currently working on playing my ps2/xbox/gc stuff and picking up the stuff for that gen I don't have. After I finish Valkyrie Profile 2, I'm thinking I'll probably take a break from consoles for a bit and work on my computer games backlog.

As for the current gen of console games, I can understand some of your guys feelings about them. I really don't like the micropayments and developers being lazy with patches. As far this gen goes, I'm sticking with my plan of collecting and playing only the better stuff.
 
There seems to be more value in "vintage" games than there is in new games, as other people have said older games you got the full game and didn't have to pay for added content or extra cheat codes, but now all that content is pay for what you want, and you are essentially not getting the full game.

Once again Nintendo disappoints with the Wii, looking at release lists I STILL cannot find one game I want to play on the Wii, let alone one game that I will pay 50$ for. Pokemon battle revolution was a total dud, you can buy it for like 20$ on ebay now because it sucks so much, did I mention that Pokemon is just getting old with the same old formula over and over again, and the abundance of cheaters and hackers online don't help much either. I am really glad I didn't buy into the whole Wii hype. I will buy a Wii however when it gets to be 100$ or under and more colors come out, because by then the games will be cheap like the gamecube games are now (if you don't shop at gamestop) and there should be something worth playing, hopefully. It will be a while though, and I will not buy until the price hits that of what the gamecube costs now in retail. I have also noticed that the release list for the DS and Wii are nearly the same, with the Wii just getting more games for children, and when I find a DS game I want to play there is an overlapping game on the Wii too. I already have a DS so I see no point in buying a Wii when the same games are released on both systems.

I am not interested in Metroid, SSB or Mario Galaxy either.

I have a hard time paying over 100$ for a game console when I can go to a yard sale and get consoles for ... really cheap...like 10-25$. They still play games and they still work so they are good enough for me. Yes I am the true cheapass.

I also find that because I have so many systems and games here, that I am desensitized to the wanting for more new consoles, I own hundreds upon hundreds of games and many systems, so there really isn't a need to buy more consoles.

I really don't have hundreds of dollars to be blowing on the latest 60$ games and very expensive hardware that just is very prone to failure when I don't even see anything I want to play, that money would be better put in the bank for future use. If a 10-25$ console fails on me its no big deal and its so cheap to find a replacement or send to a friend for repair (and also easier to repair) that I do not feel bad if something breaks. Even if I had to replace a system twice I would still be spending a lot less for hardware then buying a newer system that is bound to fail within a year of buying.

I am also trying to figure out why I have such a draw to portable games vs console games. I almost never play my consoles (yet another reason not to buy a new console, I dont use it!) however my portables see a lot of action. I have well over 200 games for the gb-gba, and they see a lot of use, my DS sees a ton of use, its really the only system that I play a lot. I have always been very fond of the gameboys ever since I first got the gameboy color, and all the games that I buy for them seem to see a lot of play around here, so its worth it for me to invest in portable systems if I am going to invest in something, since its something that I get a lot of use out of, and if I get a lot of use out of it, then its worth it for me because my entertainment dollars are being well spent. Its strange though because the place I play the most is in my room, where all the consoles are, you would think I would go for the consoles but no, its the portables that get all my attention.

I guess I am just of the opinion that 2d games own 3d games. I do like the type of pseudo-3d they have in DS games and on some PSX games, but as far as pure 3d it really doesn't appeal to me that much. My interest is also mostly on RPG games, which explains why the GBA was so awesome to me. RPG games just work better in 2d IMO, and the better quality 2d the better. I really don't like 3d platformers and I absolutely hate sports games and FPS, I will never buy a FPS game. I think its stupid how most 3d games you can't even play, you can never make that jump to the next platform or level and it just turns into a try try try, die die die thing, then you keep trying and dying so much that it just wants to make you quit, and all because you just cannot get to that next platform or figure out how to beat the level to move on. Camera angles in these games are so bad that you just cannot see where you are or where you are going, I cannot explain this very well because its hard to explain. I just can't see 3d games like the younger kids can, and now I am probably showing my age, lol. But with RPG games its not like that, there is always a way to beat the game, and there is usually no dying because you can save in most cases, yes you can die but usually you can get it on the second try if you just go back and level up a bit more or change your strategy on how to beat the enemy.
 
Money is no issue, if the games are there, so will I.

And tons of good games have come and will come in the upcoming year unless Microsoft or Sony somehow get into the casual market then expect HANNAH MONTANA REDUX: GOING TO L.A. cause it's the new hip thing to do.

I'm not as hardcore as I was 3 years ago, since I still buy my games on release and let them sit on the shelf for about 4 months before I start them. I'm in no rush for games to be released and will continue forward.

My main probably is motivation, I tend to just want to watch Judge Dredd on the TV instead.
 
I'm not sure if this will be my last gen or not. So far I'm relatively unimpressed unlike back when I got my PS2 I was insanely happy and excited. Plus I don't seem to be playing as much anymore. Guess it depends on how into games I am when the next gen happens.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']Once again Nintendo disappoints with the Wii ..... Pokemon battle revolution was a total dud, you can buy it for like 20$ on ebay now because it sucks so much, did I mention that Pokemon is just getting old with the same old formula over and over again ..... I will buy a Wii however when ..... more colors come out .....

I am not interested in Metroid, SSB or Mario Galaxy either.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck are you babbling about?

1. If you aren't interested in Metroid, SSB, or Mario Galaxy, GTFO. Seriously, just fuck off. I have respect for all sorts of tastes and opinions, but not yours. GTFO.

2. You sound like a 10 year old, and yet you later complain about "showing your age".

3. Pokemon Battle Revolution? What the fuck? Who the fuck brought up Pokemon Battle Revolution?


The rest of your post is so incoherant I didn't even bother reading through it all.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']Waaaah waaaaaaah vagina[/quote]

Oh come off it. He obviously brought up Pokemon BR because it is arguably one of the bigger games on the Wii right now. So his opinion doesn't matter because he doesn't want Mario Galaxy, MP or SSBB? Well the only one of those I'm interested in is SSBB (and maaaaaaybe Mario). Other then that and No More Heroes, no Wii games currently out or coming out interest me.

Better go kill myself.
 
I have cut back this time. I do not like the fact that for a greatest hit for the Sony systems and the hits for the other systems are not more then 20. The prices are high. Sure they were high in the day of the SNES and N64 but the games on them were all carts. A game on a CD is much cheaper or atleast always has been. So the prices I think should come down 10 or even 15 bucks.

As for used games. I have bought I think one used game from game stop and it doesn't play well at all. We have another game store in my area called Slackers CDs and Games. I have bought used from them. They are not as bad. They were the place for used games till they changed. In the past you had to have all of the game in order trade it. If you had no book they would not take it. Now they will take the game only. They even had the rule on the old NES, SNES, Master System and Genesis games. I stopped geting from them now. Now I tend to pay the extra for the book and case on amazon or ebay.

As for your post OP that was a long rant. I got maybe half way through it. I will read the rest later.
 
I would suggest you try to personally fund the production, creation, and distribution of a current gen game. Even comparing it to sales practices and methods of 10 years ago is pretty nutty, and thats not even mentioning inflation because the value of the American dollar has declined over the years.

It also seems to me that many gamers over a certain age seem to place alot more value in the nostalgia factor of the snes era etc. Certainly there were some excellent games like your metroids and marios, but how many loads of crap were there as well back then? It hasn't really changed that much, things are just more technically advanced I suppose.
 
The best way to do things is to stay a generation behind. Everything is incredibly cheap, you have the bonus of hindsight on if a game is truly worth playing (ask anybody who paid $50 for State Of Emergency day 1 about that) and no rush to buy every new release every week.
 
Jer,

That isn't a horrible idea. One bad thing though is that, with online games, you will miss something. Sure, you can still find a game of Crimson Skies online (good luck finding anyone playing MechAssault, and if you are a beginner and you do find someone, you'll be disposed of quickly).

With more games really living on online play, this hurts. You can still go back today and play Super Mario Bros 3 on your NES and get an experience of it. But, once Halo 3 comes out, will you be able to play Halo 2 quite the same way?

OP,

You make all the good points that many others have made (though, not sure if they have ever done it all in one rant). Those things are all wrong with the industry. There was something great of picking up a Next Gen, and seeing what they were giving Mario 64 and Tomb Raider for scores. But, you would be wrong to think that everything is bad.

As many problems as XBLA has had, a few good gems have come from it. Does Space Giraffe get made without it? You might love it or hate it, but it's here this generation, and wouldn't have been made in others. How about Jetpak Refueled?

For all that we've lost, online gaming is moving us closer to having the real arcade in our living room. Sure, we've had the graphics at home that killed the arcade for years. But, you always lost the ability to walk up to a stranger and challenge him for the machine. We are getting there (and some games are pretty close now).

The new levels of interactability. Kids being born now will never know the ability of being able to throw your controller in distress, since controller movements will always be a part of their games. No matter how successful the Wii is, one lasting legacy of it will be that all future consoles will have some sort of built in controller movement to it.

Also, you lost magazines, but now, we get news everyday on the internet. Sure, there are lots of bad rumors, but how many of you feel a kinship to this great site (and others)? You lose a little, but you gained a little too.

Also, complain all you want about cheap games, just remember, it wasn't that long ago that games didn't seem to get much cheaper than $20. I remember Super Mario World II and Donkey Kong Country on the SNES were full price for years after launch. Now, you rarely get a game that's full price 3 months after launch. I'm currently having a blast playing a few games of MVP 2005, which I picked up for $4 the other day. When I was a kid, you couldn't get crappy games for $4, let alone something enjoyable.

I don't think video games are going away. They are changing. This isn't the same hobby that it was 20 years ago. Some of that is good, some of it is bad. There are those that will feel a loss as the mainstream steps in. Let's be honest, there is a special place we all share when our biuddies and us got together to play, and everyone wasn't doing it. We played Madden before everyone knew about it. Now, it's a major news story with people waiting outside for it. Yet, no on knew it 10 years ago, but we were playing.

So, there is good and bad. But, I can almost guarantee that this won't be my last generation. I hope the OP can also look at it and find that he still loves his old hobby, even if it is different than it use to be.
 
I recall MANY $60 games in the Genesis/SNES days, some not even the RPGs others have mentioned already.

However, the whole 'being a generation behind' thing is what I plan on doing from now on. I'm currently playing the many games I have for the PS2 and Xbox and I doubt I'll grab a PS3 or 360 until they're down to $200 or so each.

As far as games go, I never find myself really going after the harder to find ones, the RPGs and such, so ANY games I want should still be available on the open market by the time I'M ready to grab them.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I recall MANY $60 games in the Genesis/SNES days, some not even the RPGs others have mentioned already.

[/QUOTE]

chrono trigger was $79(i think)

and phantasy star 4 was $99

Most of the turbo grafx games were expensive as hell ($60 to $70) and i think ys 1 and 2 was $99, but dont quote me on that.

I think the 3d0 had really expensive games too.

Atari games were $50, and in todays money after inflation that would be about $75 in today's money after inflation(unless me math is way off, it could be more like $80 to $85)

I am actually pretty shocked that it took this many generations for the msrp on video games to be $60, given the inflation over the years.

But maybe i am just older than dirt.
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']A few more thoughts:

Where have all the good deals gone? -- I don't know how you feel but for me it is getting harder and harder to find good deals on games. Bestbuy stopped doing their loss leader games a few years ago. Remember when Bestbuy would have like one really good game in their ad for like $10? Those days are gone. Remember waking up early to check the ebgames.com new good and sometimes rare games in stock for you to frantically order? Gone. Remember when you could get an EB discount card for $5? See ya. Remember the $5 off GGC from Bestbuy that served us so well? Outta here. And the penny guides? Those days are pretty much over, just check the penny guide forum. What about the Circuit City clearance every summer? In 2004 games were $5. In 2005 they were $10. In 2006 most were more than that. Now we get some random drops down to $16.96 and all the good games sell out at that price. How many of you were even able to find ONE copy of Metal Gear Portable ops when it dropped this month? It even goes deeper than retail. Pawn shops (the few you can find who weren't replaced by a payday cash loan place) and garage sale moms have gotten hip to ebay. Now any asshole with an ebay account can take a 5 second search to see that the copy of Dragon Warrior 4 that you were going to sell for $5 should really be going for $50. I have now noticed that pawn shops that used to price all games the same are now pricing each game individually. Yep truly the good old days of deals seem to be gone.[/quote]
No offense, but you sound like the high schooler that realizes that after he graduates, all of his friends are leaving for other schools and thinks the good times are over. The deals are still going on and always will. If you're expecting $5 clearance sales every year, of course you're going to be disappointed, but to say that the good days of deals are over is just over-exaggerating it for the sake of drama.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']

However, the whole 'being a generation behind' thing is what I plan on doing from now on. I'm currently playing the many games I have for the PS2 and Xbox and I doubt I'll grab a PS3 or 360 until they're down to $200 or so each.
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yeah i've always been a late-comer to the party, i bought a PS2 and gamecube last year. i'm still playing PS1 games too!

at this rate i'll end up getting a 360/PS3/Wii in 2011 or something :hot::cry:
 
I've decided to sit back and enjoy my PS2/Gamecube for a while, with the occasional DS title.

Maybe a Wii when they are cheaper and in a color other than white.
 
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