You're mildly screwed, but we'll help you out...

[quote name='doubledown']So, you have to send it in AGAIN for this problem? I sure hope I don't have to send it back...if so, I will get MORE than 1000 points, I want a free controller like others are getting.[/QUOTE]

"Sir, I demand satisfaction!"

*Slap operator w/ white glove*
 
[quote name='Michaellvortega']Happens to all launch systems, DC use to overheat as well,PS2 had bad drives,Nintendo does pretty well for making sure their stuff works(pat on the back for Nintendo) Sure some DS owners got some dead pixels but atleast they replaced those systems, unlike Sony who told PSP people too bad so sad I got your money![/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure problems with the DC weren't as wide spread. I still have my launch day DC, and it runs as well as it did on the first day.
 
I think the FIX for this problem is we will have to send our 360 back (WHEN THEY CALL US BACK). Supposedly there will be NO patch to get this to work. I guess they have been giving free stuff to users, but it's a bit frustrating.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell'] Do you think no one has ever tried to buy something and then swap out that product with a broken one for a full refund? [/QUOTE]

As long as it's in the warranty period and was not damaged by the customer, I see no moral dilemma here. A bought-and-paid-for product should function as it's designed, with minimal inconvenience for the consumer should there be a problem. The big retailers just ship the defective goods back to the mfr, who has already accounted for the cost of providing a warranty into the price of the product.
 
I'm not a fan of MS's customer support. I don't own a 360 btw, but was rather browsing these forums looking for people complaining about 360 defects to make myself feel better about choosing not to buy one (yes, im a sadistic bastard...sorry). Anyways, I own the original XBOX and one day (suspiciously after playing Ghost Recon 2, which I'd rented, and later read that other people had similar issues after playing the same game) my system gave me an error upon boot and it turns out it was the HDD. So I called MS and they said it was 80 dollars plus shipping. Now, I was pissed because I was literally JUST out of the warranty, and as a result, a system that was pretty much brand new aside from a fubar HDD was now useless.

I called 1800MYXBOX or whatever, and the first tier of support did nothing for me. They offered me the bottom line and that was that. I called at least twice more, and while technically they didn't have to do anything to help me (since I was out of warranty), if they DIDN'T at least make ONE concession for someone who had just 4 months ago spent 150 dollars on what is supposed to be free of defects for 3 months, then suddenly dies, I was going to just crack the damn thing open, mod it, and put in a new HDD.

Anyways, I finally read on a forum that you need to ask to speak with a higher tier of support, and I tried that on about call #4, and lo and behold I got someone who had some power. He said that they actually have a 6 month period within which they'll only charge 40 bucks and they even threw in free shipping. All of a sudden I didn't really have a problem with XBOX customer support.

Fast forward a year and half and I had recently bought an XBOX Wired Controller to use with my PC. I start messing around with it, testing all the buttons for defects and at first it feels perfect and I was stoked...then I find that the d-pad is offset, or at least, not properly lined up with the rubber buttons underneath, and so the left direction was screwed up and if I pressed down hard it popped/clicked...I was bummed...especially because I had left the receipt at home and come back to college...

I called customer support again and transferred to the accessories support. I explained the problem, explained my receipt-less situation, and said I'd like to exercise my warranty (the damn thing was a week old). She said that they don't handle the controllers individually, just in relation to the system (to which I said to myself "wtf?") and then she, honest to god, told me to take it to WalMart and return it. I asked why WalMart, and she said because of their return policy, and also because any store that sells MS products has made an agreement with them and whenever an MS product is returned, it eventually goes back to MS, so its analgous to returning it to MS (as long as you abide by the store's return policy of course)

And so I really don't care for how MS handles stuff. They have a very hands-off customer support, you have to squeeze them to get the customer support you SHOULD get, and sometimes they just outsource all the work to another company.

Good luck dude...if I were you I would use the words "Better", "Business", and "Bureau" in that order the next time you call. And remind them that you paid full price for a NEW and UNUSED product that was suppsed to be FREE OF DEFECTS. You did not pay for a defective refurbished product. Tell them they need to send you a new unit, now.

The first XBOX I bought was an official MS refurb. The damn thing froze after 15 seconds of playing any game. Trust me. Play dirty with them, be aggressive with them, and make sure they remember that you're the fucking customer and that YOU'RE in charge.
 
So, OP...did they call you BACK yet about a fix? It sounds like a LOT of people are waiting. They told me 72 hours, it passed, so I called...they basically told me 72 hours AGAIN. So, I'll wait until Wednesday to see if they call me back.
The mods at XBOX.com forums keep saying BE patient, but it's annoying when they keep putting you off for 72 more hours.

I almost positive the "infected" will have to send their 360's back, so maybe MS should just bite the bullet again.
 
[quote name='dark-star']As long as it's in the warranty period and was not damaged by the customer, I see no moral dilemma here. A bought-and-paid-for product should function as it's designed, with minimal inconvenience for the consumer should there be a problem. The big retailers just ship the defective goods back to the mfr, who has already accounted for the cost of providing a warranty into the price of the product.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if you just didn't understand what that staement meant or you just don't know how the system works. Either way you're point related little to "swapping out" broken products for refunds, by which I meant not a simple return, but if say I have a broken PS2 now and go buy a new one then stick the broken one in the box and try and return it thus trying to get two new PS2s or all my money back, whch as I said earlier, I'm pretty sure is illegal. I'm not at all implying that the OP is trying that so much as that statement was to point out the exact reason why the stores record the serial numbers when you buy a product such as a xbox 360.
 
[quote name='Sk8erlink7']I camp outside in the cold for twelve hours to get my hands on an Xbox 360, only to see it break in two weeks. After a month of hassling with Microsoft and DHL to get my 360 fixed, I finally get a replacement system. All seems well for a week, until massive freezing occurs. So I send my system back in to Microsoft a second time, only to get royally screwed in the end.

I received my third system last night. I opened up the box and saw a tattered 360 inside. I could tell this was a refurbished system based on the few brown scratches in certain areas of the system and the fact that it was manufactured on November 15, 2005. But as long as it played well, I was fine with it.

I boot up the system, everything seems fine. For some odd reason, however, the system fails to log me onto XBL automatically. So I try to manually log on, but it says that I fail to connect to XBL. It says something about being connected locally but I can't play on Live. I keep trying, and keep trying. Maybe it's just my connection, I thought to myself. After testing my connection multiple times, my hopes of connecting to XBL turn out fruitless. I try and consol my fears of having to ship off my 360 for a third time by saying to myself "maybe it will work tomorrow."

Unfortunately, it was still doing the same thing today. I eventually call Microsoft and talk to a customer service rep. Once I tell him my problem, he immediately gives me a solution. "All you have to do is recover your Gamertag." All right, this might just work! Wait... the problem is connecting to XBL... how can I recover my Gamertag if I can't even sign on to XBL in the first place? Nevertheless, I attempt it. Just as I thought, it doesn't work.

So I call back. This time I talk to someone who gives me a far worse answer to my problem. The customer service woman tells me that this is a known problem in refurbished systems, one they are working to try and fix. She said they haven't discovered how to fix it yet, so I need to just wait until they do. WTF?!!!! I'm usually a pretty calm guy, but this just pushed me over the limit. So I'm supposed to just sit here with a practically unplayable piece of crap you call an Xbox 360 and wait until you dumbasses figure out how to fix your mistakes? I'm supposed to just let my Xbox Live subscription go to waste because you made the mistake of sending me a system that contains a known defect? I'm sorry, but this pisses me off to no end.

Once I borrow my friend's memory card so I can transfer all my saves to my second HDD, I'm taking this thing back to Best Buy and getting my money back. I'll buy another 360 once I hear the bugs have been fixed. Until then, I just want to say fuck you Microsoft.

Please note that this is coming from a guy who absolutely loves the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 would absolutely kick ass were it not for these problems. Just a warning for all of you who sent in their systems and got a refurb back. If you did and you're having problems, I'll go ahead and take the liberty to say what Microsoft will say: "Thanks for your money, now screw you."[/QUOTE]

And you are sure it's not your internet connection??? Did you call comcast, or whoever does your isp??? Also the system would still be playable offline...Seems pretty impossible that this would happen 3 times...Can't say that I really believe you

But just take it back to BB and get your money back, enough said...Why waste even more time writing about it on a message board?
 
[quote name='dserafin1986']And you are sure it's not your internet connection??? Did you call comcast, or whoever does your isp??? Also the system would still be playable offline...Seems pretty impossible that this would happen 3 times...Can't say that I really believe you

But just take it back to BB and get your money back, enough said...Why waste even more time writing about it on a message board?[/QUOTE]

Read the thread....it is a KNOWN problem with refurb systems right now. MS is TRYING to fix it.
 
Well, they STILL have not called me back. So I called and they said there is NOTHING they can do about and I have to wait for MS to call me. This is beginning to get ridiculous.

Hopefully I have a XBOX that can connect to LIVE soon.
 
I actually got a call from Microsoft today. Unfortunately, the guy who left a message on my answering machine spoke incredibly fast and it was extremely difficult to understand him. I did understand that he said they knew how to fix the problem, and they would be sending me back my console with a free wireless controller (score!). Right now, I'm actually pretty happy about how hard Microsoft is trying to make things right with us gamers. But it's still too soon to be able to tell if the system I get back will be working properly...
 
[quote name='Michaellvortega']MS screwed me over Royal with my Xbox live subscription. I had mine set to monthly in the dash because CC has the buy a xbox live kit get a free game sale every once in a while. So anyway when I bought my 360 the system changed my settings to yearly and charged me the $50 that day. I called ,they acted dumb and sent me to another guy who knew it was a problem and told me "I can TRY to get you a prorated amount back but I cant promise anything". 2 months later NO refund at all.[/QUOTE]
This happend to me to, but I had been unknowingly using the account for like 3 months. I didn't find out till I called to cancel, and the guy was like "you still have like 9 months are you sure you wanna cancel?" then I was like "I thought I was on the monthly plan" The guy said he'd try something, but couldn't promise anything. I not only got my refund, but they didn't charge me for the 3 months I was using live. I think the guys name was BJ or something, I felt like calling XBL back and telling them how great of a guy he was, but alas I was out of the country.
 
Well, MS called me today....good news is I get a FREE wireless controller and 1 month of LIVE back on my account. Bad news, I have to send my 360 back....again. OH well, I guess a controller will make me a bit happier.
 
BUMP - finally got my 360 back today, 2 days short of 3 weeks without it. The good news is that it works fine and looks to be a completely new console. AND it can connect to Live without problems.

You guys who had Live connection troubles - you get that all worked out yet?
 
I'm still waiting for MS to send my cofin so I can sip my 360 back. Starting to get upset. They called and said they would send it, but never did. I called yesterday and he said he would "put the order in"

Still waiting.
 
I got my Xbox 360 back Tuesday. It came in a big box that held a retail Xbox 360 box, and inside was my system and my free wireless controller! So far everything is working perfectly (I connected to XBL flawlessly).
 
[quote name='Scorch']Finally. Now everyone get DOA 4 so I can kill you.[/QUOTE]

If only I knew how to actually play the game. It sure isn't newbie-friendly, is it?
 
[quote name='mmn']If only I knew how to actually play the game. It sure isn't newbie-friendly, is it?[/QUOTE]

It is. That's why there's a sparring and training mode.

If you go and immediately jump into the game, then no, you'll get your ass handed to you on a silver platter.
 
Shouldn't the topic title be changed in accordance with the fact that you're not actually screwed and there was something they could do about it?
 
[quote name='pete5883']Shouldn't the topic title be changed in accordance with the fact that you're not actually screwed and there was something they could do about it?[/QUOTE]

Yeah....although, it's a LONG ass process. I've been without LIVE for a month now.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Shouldn't the topic title be changed in accordance with the fact that you're not actually screwed and there was something they could do about it?[/quote] There, I changed the topic title.

I still have one question, however. Since I have now exceeded my 90-day warranty with Microsoft, I'll most likely have to deal with Best Buy should my system have any more problems. My question is, will Best Buy accept my system if I return it? Or will they refuse to give me a new system based on the fact that my 360 has a different serial number than the one I bought at launch? If they won't accept it, would I still be able to get a refund for my 2-year warranty I bought from Best Buy so I can buy Microsoft's 2-year warranty? Or am I officially screwed out of $50?

Any help on this situation would be appreciated.
 
[quote name='Sk8erlink7']There, I changed the topic title.

I still have one question, however. Since I have now exceeded my 90-day warranty with Microsoft, I'll most likely have to deal with Best Buy should my system have any more problems. My question is, will Best Buy accept my system if I return it? Or will they refuse to give me a new system based on the fact that my 360 has a different serial number than the one I bought at launch? If they won't accept it, would I still be able to get a refund for my 2-year warranty I bought from Best Buy so I can buy Microsoft's 2-year warranty? Or am I officially screwed out of $50?

Any help on this situation would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Well, I've heard from people (including one of the MS reps I was on the phone with for my situation) that if you have a 3rd party warranty you need to contact them to change the serial number, otherwise they won't honor the warranty.

I'm glad I decided to just go with MS's warranty. So much easier to deal with.
 
Wow this is really a mess. I don't see how MS plans to have 5 million systems sold by June if they are still having a good percentage of problems.
 
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