Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition

Like the effort by treyarch, and it appears they did a good job with the port, but it is two years too late for me to care about it.
 
[quote name='Ye0ldmario']http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=230730

After years of waiting Call of Duty 4 finally on the Wii.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Looks excellent. I never played the original game on my 360 nor am I interested in Modern Warfare 2, and I'm not really into shooters unless it's got a good hook. Otherwise they're all too samey.

But, the pointer controls on the Wii made Resident Evil 4 the best version of the game, so I can imagine it'll do the same for Call of Duty. It'll be interested to see what the hoopla is all about.

Though to be fair, I didn't see what the hoopla about Halo was all about either.

I'll likely pick it up before the end of the year.
 
Why is this so late? I think Modern warfare 2 will take all this games steam away, if it had any to begin with
 
MWii is easily the best FPS on the Wii. If you like FPS games then this is a must have.

And do yourself a favor and ignore the IGN review.
 
Yeah the IGN review looks like it was done by a 360/MW2 fanboy who already knew he was just going to give it a marginal score because he was under pressure to review both MW2 and MW:R on the same day and probably wanted to get back to MW2. The same guy gave The Conduit like an 8.5, but apparently his name was in the credits for that game so that's probably why.

Usually IGN's reviews match my tastes really well, but it seems this is one review not to take to heart.

I take it developers aren't sending out advances for review anymore, because no one else really has a review up for this game, or NBA 2k10.
 
Developer's do still send out advance copies... but only for games they don't send to die at market. Nobody cares about MW:R other than a few Wii-only core gamers - and there really aren't that many people in that category.

I'm not trashing Wii, but it's shameful how Activision just doesn't care about this title AT ALL.
 
[quote name='ejamer']Developer's do still send out advance copies... but only for games they don't send to die at market. Nobody cares about MW:R other than a few Wii-only core gamers - and there really aren't that many people in that category.[/QUOTE]

I'm a Wii & 360 owner and I don't care about Modern Warfare on the 360 but on the Wii it's different enough that I'm interested.
 
[quote name='ejamer']Developer's do still send out advance copies... but only for games they don't send to die at market. Nobody cares about MW:R other than a few Wii-only core gamers - and there really aren't that many people in that category.

I'm not trashing Wii, but it's shameful how Activision just doesn't care about this title AT ALL.[/QUOTE]

Nobody cares about MWii except the Million+ people who bought WaW Wii. :roll:
 
It's a shame modern warfare 2 will pretty much steal the thunder from this game. Still, hopefully people recognize it's quality and will give it a shot.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']MWii is easily the best FPS on the Wii. If you like FPS games then this is a must have. [/QUOTE]

Actually, if you like FPS games, then an Xbox 360 is a "must have." ;)
 
[quote name='BingoBrown']Actually, if you like FPS games, then an Xbox 360 is a "must have." ;)[/QUOTE]

While I agree that FPS are very prevalent on the 360, there isn't a single one that uses intuitive pointer control. In that category, the Wii is unquestionably king.
 
I got it Tuesday, and have been loving it. I figured that since I loved the Conduit, and when I get a PS3 the first game will be MW2, that I should get MWR. It's really fun, the online isn't laggy, and I actually really enjoy the campaign.

Only thing that pisses me off is people saying "MWR sucks because Call of Duty on the Wii sucks." This is a completely different game than the previous two, and is just great. Definitely will keep me busy until I get a PS3.
 
Played this today. It looks like hell. I mean, it looks like a shitty Xbox game. Halo 2 and Chaos Theory looked better. But, the multiplayer was really good.
 
[quote name='BingoBrown']Actually, if you like FPS games, then an Xbox 360 is a "must have." ;)[/QUOTE]

Actually, if you really like FPS games, then you use your PC.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']MWii is easily the best FPS on the Wii. If you like FPS games then this is a must have.

And do yourself a favor and ignore the IGN review.[/QUOTE]

You made a great post on GAF regarding third parties, Hollywood, and their shunning of the Wii.

BTW, what happened to your site? I clicked the link in your sig, and nothing appeared.
 
The only reason to give this game anything more than a passing glance is if you don't have either of the other two consoles. Like scrubking said, it's the best pure FPS on the Wii, but that only really says how piss-poor the FPS genre is on the system. I mean, a shitty-looking port of a two year old game that has already had its sequel released is the best FPS on the system. That is absolutely fucking sad.

It's not really unexpected, though. If you're a game developer with a new idea for an FPS, putting it on the Wii is basically creative and commerical suicide. You won't be able to do the things graphically you may want to do and you won't reach the kind of audience that you would on the other consoles.
 
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Actually, after having tried the LFD2 demo on my 360... I'm more interested in this version of COD then the 360 versions. I just can't get a handle on analog stick controls in a FPS. So incredibly awkward. That I could just point at what I want to shoot and shoot... that is uber appealing. I'm probably going to pick this version up at some point.

Of course there is the PC versions, but then half the game is competing with people who are wealthier then you and have spent more money on their hardware and thus can see farther and react faster. That sucks.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Nobody cares about MWii except the Million+ people who bought WaW Wii. :roll:[/QUOTE]


I want to clarify my earlier statement that a couple people have reacted to: it was (mostly) meant to be tongue-in-cheek, which is why my second sentence was about how shameful it is for Activsion to ignore the game.

No publicity. No advertising. No internal support, while some rumors/quotes seem to indicate internal teams (including Infinity Ward) consider it a waste of time to develop on Wii. Not even making an effort to port the title for years after the initial critical success. Only 12 critic reviews on Metacritic right now compared to 63 critic reviews for Modern Warfare 2 on XBox 360.

Is it any wonder that Wii is perceived as not having a core market? If this game sells at all then it's (1) a small miracle, and (2) a testament to Wii owners desperately wanting serious AAA-caliber games on their console.
 
[quote name='SuperPhillip']You made a great post on GAF regarding third parties, Hollywood, and their shunning of the Wii.[/QUOTE]

Link? Sounds like a good read.
 
Hopefully this game will see a price cut pretty soon because I hate paying $50 (or more) for games on any platform. Then again, I hope that it sells well so we get more such games. Hmm. :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='crunchewy']Hopefully this game will see a price cut pretty soon because I hate paying $50 (or more) for games on any platform. Then again, I hope that it sells well so we get more such games. Hmm. :whistle2:k[/QUOTE]

You mean MW2 might show up in 2011? JOYGASM!!!!
 
[quote name='evanft']The only reason to give this game anything more than a passing glance is if you don't have either of the other two consoles.[/QUOTE]

I think you're missing the point of how nicely the Wii's pointer controls work.

As someone that owns a 360, I don't give a shit about the game on that console, but having the Wii remote + nunchuck as a control option makes me interested in playing the game.
 
[quote name='ejamer']I want to clarify my earlier statement that a couple people have reacted to: it was (mostly) meant to be tongue-in-cheek, which is why my second sentence was about how shameful it is for Activsion to ignore the game.

No publicity. No advertising. No internal support, while some rumors/quotes seem to indicate internal teams (including Infinity Ward) consider it a waste of time to develop on Wii. Not even making an effort to port the title for years after the initial critical success. Only 12 critic reviews on Metacritic right now compared to 63 critic reviews for Modern Warfare 2 on XBox 360.

Is it any wonder that Wii is perceived as not having a core market? If this game sells at all then it's (1) a small miracle, and (2) a testament to Wii owners desperately wanting serious AAA-caliber games on their console.[/QUOTE]

Seriously? MW2 is the most hyped game possibly in history. Of course every website wants to have a review of it up.
 
[quote name='maximumzero']I think you're missing the point of how nicely the Wii's pointer controls work.

As someone that owns a 360, I don't give a shit about the game on that console, but having the Wii remote + nunchuck as a control option makes me interested in playing the game.[/QUOTE]

The 360 controller works just fine for COD4. The pointer controls, while quite good with the amount of customizability available, don't honestly make up for the massive graphical downgrade.
 
[quote name='evanft']The 360 controller works just fine for COD4. The pointer controls, while quite good with the amount of customizability available, don't honestly make up for the massive graphical downgrade.[/QUOTE]

I know this is hard to understand... so please concentrate.

Some people prefer great fun to great graphics. That is what the Wii controller provides.
A lot of people prefer Wii controls to dual analog.

Your world has shattered.

[quote name='ejamer']Link? Sounds like a good read.[/QUOTE]

Here you go:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18485731&postcount=1566
 
[quote name='SuperPhillip']I know this is hard to understand... so please concentrate.

Some people prefer great fun to great graphics. That is what the Wii controller provides.
A lot of people prefer Wii controls to dual analog.

Your world has shattered.[/QUOTE]

Pish posh. The 360 controller works fine for COD4. In fact, it works great. I don't see how anyone who is used to it would have any real problem playing COD4 with it. Millions and millions of people did. Now, I'm well aware that the pointer controls do have their charms, and as I said, work well when tweaked enough, but frankly I think the idea of using the Wii controller for an FPS is superior to the execution. It's certainly not as good as a mouse and keyboard, and I wouldn't say it really has a huge advantage over the 360 controller. Combine this minimal advantage with the fact that the game looks like shit, and you see where I'm coming from.

The big problem with the graphical downgrade is that COD4 is a game that is done in a very cinematic style. This style really benefits when the game looks good because it allows one to more easily suspend disbelief. It also can improve the emotional impact since characters will have realistic facial expressions that can better convey what is going on in any particular scene. The Wii version really loses much if not all of that. It truly does look worse than some Xbox games.
 
The execution is better than dual analog and less adequate than keyboard and mouse.

Though you're going back to graphics as why you prefer your version. This is fine, but we're talking about controls. Some find the controls worth the downgraded graphics. That's all I'm saying. You're not wrong, I'm not wrong. Peace!
 
[quote name='snipegod']Actually, if you really like FPS games, then you use your PC.[/QUOTE]
Actually, if you really like games, then you use your PC.

EDIT: Unless, ironically, you're playing Modern Warfare 2.
 
The problem with PC games is that if you don't have the latest and greatest hardware you are at a disadvantage. If you have the latest and greatest and can afford to upgrade every year, you're in good shape. For the rest of us, consoles offer an even playing field, which to my mind is a substantial benefit.
 
I can't believe the people in this thread going on and on about graphics...

The wii just can't do what it doesn't have...

I've seen the video of the comparision... looks fine for what the wii can do. as long as there isn't any stutter in Frames PS, then great.

I think people need to seriously drop the graphics e-peen.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']The problem with PC games is that if you don't have the latest and greatest hardware you are at a disadvantage. If you have the latest and greatest and can afford to upgrade every year, you're in good shape. For the rest of us, consoles offer an even playing field, which to my mind is a substantial benefit.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, the $500 laptop I bought earlier this year is doing a pretty fuckin' good job with everything I've thrown at it.

But yes, that is - aside from compatibility issues - the main flaw of PC gaming.
 
[quote name='SuperPhillip']
Some people prefer great fun to great graphics. That is what the Wii controller provides.
A lot of people prefer Wii controls to dual analog.

Your world has shattered.[/QUOTE]
I think if MW:R were made from the start with Wii, it would look good. (Super Mario Galaxy). Since it's a port, things like Overgrown look like a mid gen PS2 or GameCube game.

In the 360 Overgrown, the grass can provide cover and whatnot. The Wii one just can't pull that off, so they mowed the grass away. Also, with the 10 players online, it would probably be hard to handle.

Sorry, but Zack and Wiki would have been better with a mouse, or no motion controls, or Wii motion plus (years later) so it actually works well.

Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess, both originally GC games, should have had GC controller support.

Excite Bots, though awesome, would have been better if the M+ help guarantee a smooth experience all the time.

The list goes on. Games developed with motion in mind: :D
Games that feel the need to do everything the Wii controller can do: :roll:
Games with functions mapped to motion that could have had alt control schemes for GC or CC: :bomb: (mostly looking at NSMB Wii here, though it seems it is still a good game)
 
[quote name='Doomed']I think if MW:R were made from the start with Wii, it would look good. (Super Mario Galaxy). Since it's a port, things like Overgrown look like a mid gen PS2 or GameCube game.

In the 360 Overgrown, the grass can provide cover and whatnot. The Wii one just can't pull that off, so they mowed the grass away. Also, with the 10 players online, it would probably be hard to handle.

Sorry, but Zack and Wiki would have been better with a mouse, or no motion controls, or Wii motion plus (years later) so it actually works well.

Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess, both originally GC games, should have had GC controller support.

Excite Bots, though awesome, would have been better if the M+ help guarantee a smooth experience all the time.
The list goes on. Games developed with motion in mind: :D
Games that feel the need to do everything the Wii controller can do: :roll:
Games with functions mapped to motion that could have had alt control schemes for GC or CC: :bomb: (mostly looking at NSMB Wii here, though it seems it is still a good game)[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about FPSes on Wii (when they get the proper attention). What are you talking about honestly? Not meaning to be rude either.
 
[quote name='Doomed']
Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess, both originally GC games, should have had GC controller support.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to poor corrosivefrost...
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Tell that to poor corrosivefrost...[/QUOTE]

In the case of Twilight Princess you could always, you know, buy the Gamecube version and play that on your Wii.
 
Any cheap asses play online?

Here's my f.c:

TRIFORCE121
F.C: 078882778385

If you add me, please P.M me.

THANKS!
 
[quote name='Wa-Keen']Any cheap asses play online?

Here's my f.c:

TRIFORCE121
F.C: 078882778385

If you add me, please P.M me.

THANKS![/QUOTE]

Yeah I love to play online. I will get my friend code next time I'm on...will probably be in an hour or two.
 
[quote name='pacemakerguy']can u play with anyone or u need stupid friend codes, and can u talk with the voice thing?[/QUOTE]

You can play online without using friend codes, but if you want to play with a certain friend you will need to exchange codes...as far as I know you cant use Wii Speak in the game
 
[quote name='Got_Wii']You can play online without using friend codes, but if you want to play with a certain friend you will need to exchange codes...as far as I know you cant use Wii Speak in the game[/QUOTE]

I wish it was names like the EA games.
 
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